Modified ROP design

going4nine

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One of the things that bugged me about wearing the ROP was having to squeeze my balls through the small opening. Another irritant was that the latex stretched over time, causing the fit to become loose and the ring more likely to fall off.

I think I've solved both of these problems by replacing one of the pieces of latex with industrial strength velcro. This allows for rapid and comfortable application and removal, and for a fit as tight or as loose as the wearer desires.

I attached both the copper and zinc rods to a single piece of latex tubing and secured it with 2 ton marine epoxy. Once that cured, I placed it in a vice with the copper tube pointing up, then filled it with saline solution. The opening of the copper tube was then filled with superglue and epoxy. The epoxy was to viscous and wouldn't keep the hole sealed, initially, but the superglue hardened quickly enough to let the epoxy keep shape while it cured.

After everything was dry, I then used more epoxy/superglue to place a strip of velcro (hook side only), with the sticky backside exposed to the copper rod, oriented so that the hooks pointed outward, away from the ring. Any sticky portion of the velcro that was still exposed, I covered with duck tape. I used a long length of velcro since I can always cut it down to size, later. It's better to use to much, and cut it down later, than to use to little and have nothing to fall back on. For width, I cut it to approximately the same size as the outer diameter of the rods.

Once again, after drying, I placed the piece of furry velcro to the zinc rod, with the fur oriented inwards towards the middle of the ring. Similarly, I used duck tape to cover the sticky portion of the velcro.
 

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going4nine said:
One of the things that bugged me about wearing the ROP was having to squeeze my balls through the small opening. Another irritant was that the latex stretched over time, causing the fit to become loose and the ring more likely to fall off.

I think I've solved both of these problems by replacing one of the pieces of latex with industrial strength velcro. This allows for rapid and comfortable application and removal, and for a fit as tight or as loose as the wearer desires.

I attached both the copper and zinc rods to a single piece of latex tubing and secured it with 2 ton marine epoxy. Once that cured, I placed it in a vice with the copper tube pointing up, then filled it with saline solution. The opening of the copper tube was then filled with superglue and epoxy. The epoxy was to viscous and wouldn't keep the hole sealed, initially, but the superglue hardened quickly enough to let the epoxy keep shape while it cured.

After everything was dry, I then used more epoxy/superglue to place a strip of velcro (hook side only), with the sticky backside exposed to the copper rod, oriented so that the hooks pointed outward, away from the ring. Any sticky portion of the velcro that was still exposed, I covered with duck tape. I used a long length of velcro since I can always cut it down to size, later. It's better to use to much, and cut it down later, than to use to little and have nothing to fall back on. For width, I cut it to approximately the same size as the outer diameter of the rods.

Once again, after drying, I placed the piece of furry velcro to the zinc rod, with the fur oriented inwards towards the middle of the ring. Similarly, I used duck tape to cover the sticky portion of the velcro.



Don't you have a problem when trying to clean the copper and zinc rods?
 
British prick said:
Don't you have a problem when trying to clean the copper and zinc rods?

There's about 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch around the glue/epoxy that's a little difficult to scrub, but other than that, the rods clean up just like the original design. Even those hard-to-reach spots can be gotten if you're diligent.

The rods look a little dirty in the above pictures, but that's due to image compression. I took the pics when the rods were brand new and had no corrosion.
 
I've made one of these with the pure zinc rod and used clear vinyl tubing as the joiners. It's experimental. But I then fitted it and checked the voltage it made when tight. I read less than .1 volt. So I then sprayed the area with vinegar water and tried it again. This time, I read .3 volt. I wore that for an hour and read it again. I was down to .15 volt.

I see it varies greatly, and depending on whether you sweat a lot, or not, it could be totally insignificant. Now I'm not through checking this out. I also made a ring using alternate zinc and copper with wooden macramae balls threaded between, on a solid 1/8" vinyl ring, and held together at the top with thin-walled neoprene tubing. i haven't yet checked the voltage generated with that thing. But I can see a possible advantage, in that there are more fields generated, and the distance is shorter, so the voltages might be larger. Since the skin is part of the dielectric, you should still get zinc into the system directly, as long as it will conduct a field. You have to get free zinc ions into the conductive medium first.

One thing I'd like to try sometime is a conductive gel, like they use with rubber electric pads. The gel wouldn't evaporate as fast, and migh provide a better ion path, all day long.
 
going4nine said:
I attached both the copper and zinc rods to a single piece of latex tubing and secured it with 2 ton marine epoxy. Once that cured, I placed it in a vice with the copper tube pointing up, then filled it with saline solution.

I think, going4nine, that your saline solution is partially or fully shorting out the electrolyte action of perspiration, and that's where you want the ions. You cannot generate ions if you are partially shorted between your electrodes with a saline solution, internally.

To prove that, you could put a multimeter across the copper and zinc tubes. The copper should be positive. Put it on the .6v range, or something close to that-- less than a volt.

The resistance of your own natural electrolyte will not allow the full ideal differential as shown in the potential charts, but as long as you have a few hundred millivolts, you will be fine. It should then work.
 
A battery would defeat the purpose. The reason it works is because the skin's moisture acts as an electrolyte, and the by products of current happen to be zinc ion flow through the dielectric (skin). Put a battery on it and your flow is a circuit completed by the battery. The internal resistance of the battery is so many orders of magnitude lower than that of the skin, that all the current would flow through it, instead, effectively short-circuiting the idea.
 
Formysweetie said:
I think, going4nine, that your saline solution is partially or fully shorting out the electrolyte action of perspiration, and that's where you want the ions. You cannot generate ions if you are partially shorted between your electrodes with a saline solution, internally...
I don't have the thread link in front of me, but an EE did a test of the ROP, both with and without saline. The saline produced more volts. That's why I added it to mine.
 
Stop and think, going4nine, what are you after? More volts, or zinc ions? And ions directly into your tissues? The voltage is immaterial if the electrolyte isn't your own.
 
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