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Unfortunately, I've had a lot of social problems lately that have led to me getting jumped on several occasions. I've managed to win every situation without taking a hard punch, but I left all of those situations feeling very nervous. I've also been avoiding parties completely, and I'm very nervous in public places, because the people I've had problems with have lots of friends. I don't have any close friends who would have my back in a fight. Instead, I'd like to get very good at fighting so I can feel comfortable in any situation I'm in, even if some kids have weapons.
When I was younger I did martial arts for a while, so I have a good set of instincts and already have some fundamentals to work from. I also lift weights on a regular basis, although this is something I think I should get more serious about. My problem is that I'm not entirely sure where to start. I have some idea of the basic styles, but no clue about what works the best in an actual combat situation. If anyone has been through this situation and knows what I'm dealing with, I'd appreciate any advice.
 
Learn MMA...that UFC stuff. Don't waste your time on anything esle. If you cant find a pure MMA school around you, take up boxing and some sort of grappling.
 
Thanks for the help so far. I've considered light boxing, but I need to absolutely avoid any training that kill brain cells. I don't care about the pain or broken bones I, but I'm very concerned about getting a concussion because I've put so much effort into developing my mind.
 
"After learning Krav Maga, I feel like I'm doing a disservice to my students who want an effective self defense system by continuing to teach them traditional martial arts."

Chet Barnett
ATA Black Belt Academy
Ft. Collins, Colorado

"I am very excited about learning and teaching Krav Maga techniques. It has made me realize how ineffectively a traditional martial art system prepares you for real life."

Denise Balnoschan
Dublin Taekwondo
Dublin, Ohio
 
I am a huge fan of boxing and will be joining a boxing club on monday... Im very excited LMAO
 
I have to back up my man there, go for MMA,
strikers always lose to all round MMA fighters

Back that up with throat slashing and ball kicking plus some eye poking and your a true street fighter
 
a problem with certain martial arts is that you have to train for a long time to be any good at using them in a street situation. like if someone went to punch you and you think to try out this "awesome" move you learned, then it would probably go tits up...i trained kick boxing for a while (stopped because of uni work :( ) and you can use it as soon as you learn to kick and punch properly. some clubs also teach grapling and weapons. its not the best defensive martial art, but sometimes the best defense is to have a good offense. boxing is also really good, although you do take smacks to the head in training....
at the end of the day most guys will try to hit you as hard as they can with the first punch, all you need to do is avoid that one, and lay in with fast little jabs (then maybe a kick to the head :D)
 
In a fight you are either...

In the free standing phase (not together physically, but are able to exchange kicks and punches, headbutts ect)

In the clinch phase( someones grabbing onto you, or vice versa, and you can exchange knees, punches, eventually take them down)

Or you are in the ground phase (hes on top of you, or you are on top of him...exchanging blows or whatever).

I suggest you find something that trains each of these phases and mixes them together (MMA...) to be a well rounded fighter. Not only that, but it will get you in great shape and make you feel like a new person over all.

If this were Dragon ball Z there would be an air phase, (both are flying in the air and fighting). However, this is impossible at the moment.
 
Bas Ruten is pretty hilarious (and deadly LMAO )...

I just read the original post on the thread by spinner (neglected to read it the first round somehow). What the hell did you do to get these people all so pissed at you they want to kick your ass everywhere you go? I think a better way outta this situation would be to use your head man; having to look behind your back, prepared to fight all the time is no way to live.. You should probably invest in some kickboxing/ grappling classes, but you really should be looking for a way out of this situation dude, sounds dangerous. All it takes is one solid sucker punch you dont see coming and its lights out- then whats gonna happen to you?
 
MMA is a competive sport, not street fighting. The type of grappling you see in the octagon never happens in real life. Besides, most of those guys have years and years of experience in at least one martial art or sport. Are those guys in MMA badasses? Of course. It's also completely impractial for the average person.

Krav Maga is the only martial art based around real life situations and crippling your opponents as quickly as possible. With some minor training a cane becomes a legal stick of death.

"In Krav Maga, there are no hard-and-fast rules. It is not a sport, and there are no competitions. All the techniques focus on maximum efficiency in real-life conditions. Krav Maga generally assumes a no quarter situation; the attacks and defenses are intended to inflict the most pain possible on the opponent. Groin strikes, headbutts, and other efficient and potentially brutal attacks are emphasized.

The guiding principles for those performing Krav Maga techniques are:

neutralize the threat

avoid injury

go from defending to attacking as quickly as possible

use the body's natural reflexes

strike at any vulnerable point

use any tool or object nearby

The basic idea is to first deal with the immediate threat (being choked, for example), prevent the attacker from re-attacking, and then neutralize the attacker, proceeding through all steps in a straightforward manner, despite the rush of adrenaline that occurs in such an attack. The emphasis is put on taking the initiative from the attacker as soon as possible."

Although Krav Maga shares many techniques with other martial arts, such as Boxing, Savate and Muay Thai (for the punches, kicks, elbows and knees) or Ju-Jitsu, Judo and Wrestling (for the grappling and disarming techniques), the training is often quite different. It stresses fighting under worst-case conditions (for example, against several opponents, when protecting someone else, with one arm unusable, when dizzy, or against armed opponents).

Krav Maga is the official system of hand-to-hand combat and self-defense employed by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), Security Forces, the Israeli Police and Military Police and its Special Operations and Anti-Terrorist Units. The IDF including their Special Forces Units, Israeli Police, and Internal Security Branches currently uses this style on a day-to-day basis.

In the United states, personnel from various Federal, State and Local Law Enforcement agencies and Military units around the world have received training in Krav Maga, including: the Federal Bureau of Investigation, AFOSI Anti-terrorism Specialty Team, United States Marine Corps, United States Marshals Service, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, Drug Enforcement Administration Arrest and Control Unit, U.S. Treasury Department, Immigration and Naturalization Service, State Department, Central Intelligence Agency, several divisions of the U.S. Coast Guard, and police and sheriff's offices in New York, Illinois, Texas, Alabama, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, California, and Maryland. In addition to the Special Operations Forces of Israel (i.e. Sayeret Matkal, YAMAM, etc.), several special units from other countries have adopted this system for their hand-to-hand combat. These units include GIGN, FBI HRT, and SWAT, among others."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_maga
 
spinner2 said:
Thanks for the help so far. I've considered light boxing, but I need to absolutely avoid any training that kill brain cells. I don't care about the pain or broken bones I, but I'm very concerned about getting a concussion because I've put so much effort into developing my mind.

i've gotten into many concussions, even had one durring karate class (and sadly it wasnt from getting hit too hard by another student, i had a close encounter with a fire extinguisher) haha. the spare gear was in a container on the ground and i lifted up my head to meet up witht he well placed extinguisher, i knocked it off the wall and it crashed on the ground.

but anyways, consussions don't make you severely retarded or anything, to me they just made me nauscious and dizzy.

but back to the fighting topic. it sounds like you have a good situation going on. you have the same thing as me, a basic martial arts background and keep in physical shape. it's ok to be nervus durring a situation, be it one on one or multiple versus you. it helps keep you on your toes, like you said you won all the fights right? that's what matters. however if you want to be more comfortable i would suggest start up your training again, either go to a formal school or just review what you know on your own and visualize the opponent. make sure that the opponent is varried and throws you for a loop. this is good for boxing, kick boxing, but not so much for grappeling (obvioiusly) i'm poor, so the shadow boxing thing is what i try to do, i mean i COULD start some fights and try to see what i know, but that's just retarded. i know i'm fine when my friends and i "play fight", they would mainly test me by pretending to throw a punch (or actually doing it) and see what i do. so i know i could whoop any one of their asses. ha.

personally, i find that the visual of the enemy is a good way to get yourself used to the different situations if you're not able to spar or get in a fight.
 
Competition sport fighting (MMA) and street fighting are not the same thing. I have spent time training with karate, taekwondoe, and boxing and spent considerable time pumpin' weights in the gym.

I've had my ass kicked incredibly bad on the street (bar fights) and I've won some as well.

I've learned some along the way as well. Fighting is'nt as glamorous as movies and TV make it out to be.

Competitive fighting is great for the athleticism and skill involved but street fighting involves uncontrolled violence and other situations such as being outnumbered, sucker punched, stabbed.....

Death is a very real possibility of street fighting.

Learn to be a "cooler" and avoid the situations that may spiral into violence. It does'nt mean you are a pussy or a wimp, it means you are a man, with intelligance, rational and respect.

"He who does'nt fight but walks away, lives to walk another day"
 
I think the most practical thing to do(for me anyway), is to build up your leg muscles big time and get in good running shape for good endurance. People usually don't expect someone to have really strong legs and be good at kicking, but kicking is deadly, especially when you can push over 300 lbs of force with one leg.

I'm sure if I got a good shot at a guy's rib cage and I had a nicely thrown sidekick, a few of his ribs would be broken and his lung would probably collapse.

I used to do most taekwondoe with some ju jitsu when I was younger(up until 13 years old). I'd recommend ju jitsu because it is very fast and all grappling. However, I'd say for my body type, kickboxing is the best option for me. As my legs are quite long and very strong.

Luckily I haven't been in a real fight since the 6th grade, but I'm always "ready" if need be. I'm pretty sure I'd just use my legs on people the whole time and after a good hit or two they'd be out cold, probably with broken ribs. I think what has helped me stay out of fights is my size, also. I'm not a puny looking guy by any means. If I were someone else I wouldn't want to fight me. I think carrying myself with confidence everywhere I go would make other guys back down, too.
 
I box and kickbox and have competed in both sports.
My advice to you is to find the closest PAL. It is a great place to learn to fight, it is cheap if not free,( might be like a 20$ fee er something) and their is always sparring which is very good for learning to deal with butterflys and letting your hands go.
If you could afford find a private instructer for padwork and learn fundimentals.
Obviously don't hang around your foes, and if your gonna, get someone whos down to fight for you and consult a plan with him, a specific plan when the beef shall start.
 
I don't think martial arts classes are the best course of action. I've visited all of the martial arts places around my town and absolutely none are going to prepare me for a real fight. Some of the links here looked really good, but unfortunately none are close enough for me to attend right now; I just don't have enough time for travel.
I think some ground work will be worth it, and some sparring. I can find some partners for this in a month when college starts up again. I had one of those punching bags before that stood on the ground, but I hit it too hard so the base broke.
In the meantime I've decided to just lay low and watch my back. Some kids are after me, and it's just a no-win situation if I see them. Even if I win a fight again, they'll be after my blood. They also know where I live and where my family lives, which is even worse. In the meantime I guess I'll just hang out with some girls to keep myself occupied and meditate a lot.
 
Krav Maga is probably the closest thing that translates into what you're looking for, particularly if weapons situations come about (don't be stupid--always run from a weapon, unless it's absolutely impossible). The problem with any of that stuff is you can't start it tomorrow and be any good at it next week. Maybe in six months you can be pretty good, if you've got talent and you work hard, but not overnight.

As for the concerns of brain damage, protective gear should minimize the risk of that to begin with. Also, brain damage is most noticeable in boxers that have done this stuff against the best of the best for many years, as a career. Brain damage potential is also considerably magnified by the fact that these fighters go into the fights somewhat dehydrated, from cutting weight, which reduces the fluid around the brain and causes more direct impact. Bottom line is I wouldn't worry at all about it, in your situation.
 
If things are really out of control, you might want to think about purchasing a weapon, preferrably a handgun. If it's really as bad as it sounds you should carry a gat with you all the time. Best bet other than that is just to avoid them for a long time.

If these do get to guns, I'd recommend not killing them but just shooting their leg or something. It sounds like you're in a horrible situation, and usually the only way out of a bad situation like that is through force.
 
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