Do you worry about the way you dress?

Hey MOS members,

I was frustrated with the low quality of information about dressing well that is available to men. I went and took a couple of image consulting courses and read a couple of books and created a ( free ) website dedicated to this stuff.

It's still a work in progress, but I think there is enough of an outline in there to get an idea.

Anyway, it's located at

http://www.swaggerinc.com

Does anyone else actually worry about this stuff?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Waitaminute.

On your "resources" page, you describe one of the books as "Chicken Soup for the Metrosexual soul. The only book I have found that actually describes and classifies different fragances and how to wear them." You also have a link that is "A great site for finding an image consultant." You have information on how to find which colors will be trendy next season, and knowing what's in style for your next shopping spree.

And here's the kicker: "Plan to spend 5-10% of your gross annual salary on your wardrobe. A suit worn regularly should cost about 1.5% of your annual salary. A suit worn infrequently should cost 1% of your annual salary. If you plan to buy books or hire an image consultant, this fee should also be included within this budget."

So tell me again, WHY would I want to read your site after seeing this? So I can dress like a girl? So I can spend a significant chunk of my hard-earned cash on designer clothes that will be "out of style" within a year? No thanks, I'd rather keep my fully functional balls and my money, not to mention my dignity.

Do you ever wear pink shirts with the collar popped? :s

Oooh, pink shirts. I got like 18 of them... You got to get the different shades and sizes. And the stripes and patterns have to be different too.

The 5% to 10% figure is for business wear. I think a lot of the stats in there are skewed for the image consulting clients, which are more of the CEO + power user types. But you're right, I should probably be more specific about that.

Re your designer clothes comment. A good suit should last you 20 years. But many people end up buying suits that don't fit well, are of a bad material, or are of the latest and trendiest patterns. The goal of the website is to actually put this information out there. For example, on the fit section of the website, I will put forth the idea that you need to look at the fit, not the design. So you need to look at shoulders, jacket length, gorge and the way the waist fits. If you are blowing your hard earned money on a suit, wouldn't you want to know that you are not being ripped off?

Other things that I plan to include are, for example, how to dress for your body type, how to make sure that the belt that you buy is of the right size ( measure against the middle hole ), etc. The idea is that you can walk into any store and quickly eliminate clothing that is not right for you so you spend less time shopping for shit.

I am not saying that you need to dress like you jumped out of an Outkast video, in fact, I am saying that there are certain elements of style that are timeless that are lost in the whole Maxim / GQ buy the latest and greatest trends.

You find an image consultant if you need one. But having a resource there doesn't hurt. Image consultants are different than fashion consultants. They also help you in aspects of etiquette, communications and behaviour.

You failed to mention the estrogenic effects of being a metrosexual. :D

Are you interested in Penis Enlargement or you just came here to promote your site? I think you came to the wrong place.

I've been lurking in the forums for a while. I thought the deep thoughts would be a good place to put the ideas out there. Newbie at Penis Enlargement here. I saw DLD's article on Salon and looked at a lot of the info in here, so I guess a little of Column A and a little of column B.

I think it all ties in together. We all want to improve ourselves, so you don't just focus on one area, you want to work on getting a bigger dick, dressing better, being better at approaching.

So far it's 100% of Column B. We don't tolerate spam here.

Apologize for misusing this then. How do I delete the post?

I don't need your website to learn how to shop for clothes or dress myself. My wife shops for my clothes at the most trendy yard sales, second hand clothes stores, goodwill and wal-mart. I know I'm looking good if I come out of the bedroom and she doesn't laugh at me, curl her nose and ask, "You're not wearing THAT are you?" or say, "You know you have two different kind of socks on, right?" As far as fragrances, my wife monitors my level of man odor. It's kind of like the terrorist alert chart. Green is, "Mmm... did you put on deoderant today?" Yellow is, "Ew, you've been working hard." Orange is, "Oh my god, is that your feet or your ass?" and Red is, "I am not putting that thing in my mouth til you go wash it, mister!"

Wait, wait, wait.

You mean that I wasted all this time and money trying to dress better to impress the chicks, but it was really that I was being a pussy around them because I was overcompensating for my small dick? Shit, it all makes sense now. The chicks see some ugly dude (me), they say, 'um, you dress like a homeless person, go away'. but really they are saying 'I want a big dick man'. It all makes sense now. All that estrogen in the air. Hanging around with all those metrosexual. All that damn estrogen!

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

All this time and effort wasted.

What the fuck am I going to do now. I am already signed up for the next class ( Makeup - foundations and applications, a 6 part miniseries with Ester Lauder). I should have used that money to get those DVDs. Damn!

Wait, wait, wait.

You're saying that chicks care more about a guy's clothes than who he is as a person? You're saying that impressing girls is worth 5% of my yearly income? That girls that are actually worth my time wouldn't date me unless I wore designer clothing? That girls worth my time are more attracted to guys that dress, look, and act like girls than to a guy with a set of testosterone-producing balls and a strong sense of self, no matter what he's wearing? She would prefer me to be trendy in public rather than to love her with every fiber I've got?

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

My whole life and everything I believe in, for nothing.

I supposed I should break up with my fiancée and pursue someone a bit more superficial. We already set a date too. I could have spent the last 5 years of my life with the popular, trendy, insecure crowd. Damn.

And for the record, you're the first one that mentioned dick size being more important to a woman.

Round of Applause for 9Cyclops9!

ha ha that was awesome cyclops :cool: :highclap:

lol that was a perfect answer.

Brujo, I don't think many people here will care too much about clothes. If you want to learn about Penis Enlargement though, that's fine, stay around.

Cripes, he's just linking his free website, and it is the deep thougts section, no need to be related to Penis Enlargement here.

Speaking as somebody who works in the corporate world, your personal grooming and clothing is very important.

Understanding how to dress well projects a lot about you to others, and a nice wardrobe is a good investment (especially suits, that figure is pretty much dead on, the best thing you can give young guys in the financial/law/tech whatever fields, anything professional related, is gift cards to places where they can shop for high end suits, the expense can intitially be a burden). Dressing well isn't some kind of indulgent bullshit or feminine activity, for a lot of people it's either just an enjoyable thing or a professional necessity.

And as far as the attractiveness thing, if you take a snapshot of your average joe in a well proportioned suit or in a pair of generic baggy cargo pants and some standard t-shirt, which picture do you think most women would select as the more appealing presentation? I don't consider myself to be an overly material person, but if I were to choose between two similar looking women, but one dressed in a flattering, classy, and sexy outfit, and the other in work-out pants and a tube-top, I'm going to gravitate towards the well-dressed woman. To me it signals maturity, intelligence, and self-respect. That may not always be the case, but I know I generally have a better initial impression of people when they're dressed nicely, and I expect many would of me as well.

Would any of us wear a t-shirt and jeans to a job interview? Of course not, you're trying to make a food impression and to show that you're capable and desirable, so you clean up. The same principle can be applied plenty of other places, and in my experience the people that understand this reap the rewards.

How you dress and what effort you make on your looks says a lot about you, and I generally don't care for the idea that it only says you're vain. If we are all so "non-material" and "egoless," then nobody would bother to shower, wear clean clothes, essentially do anything that makes us more socailly presentable or attractive to others. It's just a different perception and preference level for different people.

LOL, I think you guys are being a bit harsh on Brujo! I think dressing good is important but then I'm only 19. The way you dress can make a HUGE amount of difference. Up until I was 17 I dressed pretty shitty, no style at all, my hair-style was shit. I started wearing nice jeans, nice trainers, styled my hair. The amount of girls I got and the quality of girls I got increased ten fold. If your not interested in that sort of thing then fair enough - don't bother with the thread. If you are then that site might have some answers for you.

Cyclops, I want to thank you for bringing out an important point yesterday. Why should people care about this stuff? It really made think about why I was inspired to set up a site like this. For this I thank you. I also apologize for acting like a little bitch yesterday.

My perspective is at
http://swaggerinc.com/crabpeople.htm

Although the books are more general and perhaps not entirely useful on your site I think you - personally at least - would enjoy the Gentlemen series of books that are sold at Brooks Brothers. A lot of the things that you say, or that the image consultants say can also be found there. just an idea.

I was being a little bitch too, I'm sorry. One thing I have to keep in mind is "different strokes for different folks."