My friend, She's ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. You're a VERY lucky man. Congratulations!!!!!!!!
Dating or Getting into a relationship with a EXOTIC DANCER?
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My friend, She's ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. You're a VERY lucky man. Congratulations!!!!!!!!
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Thank you. I was really blessed meeting her because back then I hung around with allot of bad people, you know the deal. Allot of Molly in those days!
We built a Soundstage in Miramar to shoot scenes and my partner use to shoot Jenna Jameson with Jennas husband Jay Grdina. Jay and I became friends and then he eventually left to partner with Playboy. We shot allot of gonzo stuff in sunrise and miramar.
Here is JT (Stud from Bang Bros) with a Power Assist with DLD down there. Matters of Size had a few shout outs in a few scenes back then :D
Nice!! Good times brother. True that, a lot fo bad temptations in that world...At least 3 girls I worked with have passed away from overdose. Young 18-23 year old girls completely lost in life surrounded by bad elements. But we all have a choice, and we all have the same opportunities. I still keep in touch with a lot of people from the industry.
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Living a life of alcohol, drugs and untethered sex will eventually lead to death. Sad they died so young but perhaps that is what they wanted, a way out if a life that was out of control. I pray for these lost souls, I wish they would seek help and I also wish the help they get is need when they do reach out. I am sorry my Brother! ❤️ I wish this never happened. Everybody makes mistakes but not everybody has the same opportunity to correct themselves. Some mistakes or lethal and there is no second chance ?
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I just noticed he has his cock out!
I felt exactly the same way while in the industry. 95% of these girls get into ���� because in reality they have nothing else to do with their life and/or theyre escaping a horrible reality. The vast majority have been physically abused, raped by family members, grown up in bad neighborhoods surrounded with drugs, etc. And lets face it. 100% of these girls get sexually harassed and abused inside the ���� industry. Thats is a fact that I NEVER agreed. Some guys that I used to face about it would say "nah bro we became friends, she gave me her number, we went out send hang out, she likes me" Nope. That is not true. These girls are afraid and desperate. These girls are psychologically extremely fragile. The FEAR with their souls to lose that money. To lose that opportunity. If a photographer from Brazzers approach a girl and start flirting with her, SHE WILL CORRESPOND, because she is trying to get more work. She thinks and feels that by saying no or denying anything, will cut her chances to be used again by that same company. AND GUYS KNOW THIS. I am not stupid. Guys KNOW in their position they have influence to say anything about girls to not shoot them anymore, or to shoot them again. These girls will comply with any harassment, abuse, giving the perception of joy and happiness but inside they are ROTTEN SOULS, and the industry makes it worse for them. Thats why many of them worsen their addictions to escape that reality in any possible way. We are talking about 18-20 year old girls for God sake!! I always believed the industry could be made a great place to help people like them and many others. Even guys to get in ���� to straighten their lives. But that all depends on each human. Temptation and sin is bigger. It is in all of us since the moment the creation took place.
I deeply enjoyed my time while in it, made good friends, theres plenty of great people, but this is one sad reality of that world.
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Man it is great to have you here. These stories are so real and maybe people in here will see the reality behind the scenes in ����. It is many mens dream that come here.
I've seen quite a few deaths in the industry, not a great place to be.
The strip club industry is so dirty as well. It's a shame how every club is a whorehouse, especially in Miami, Tootsies, Pink Pony (I got DLD laid there)
and these spots. The great thing about scarlets was they were really strict about fucking in the club and the manager (Shawn) was really on point with the girls and professional with meetings and stuff with dancers.How are the mens strip clubs, are they fucking in there as well?
Did you make more as a dancer or as a ���� star? I know allot of ���� studs dont get paid well and even the same goes for women. Some of the women i knew made more money dancing than shooting scenes.
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My Brother I lived with it for years. My ex girlfriend, Jan, came from a very bad background. We met each other in a drug rehab and when we first got together she told me she was with two men her whole life. I believed in at first but then she started to slip up and the truth started to come out. I found out that she was a stripper and that she slept with more than 100 guys . She came from a very abusive family and that involved rape incest and abuse. When she was with me I thought I could save her, I thought I could be the one that brings her to a place of happiness but that’s not what happened. For a little while she wore a mask well but soon she couldn’t act any longer.
When her true self came out we broke up and she left me, ironically, because of MOS. Her letter to me was all about MOS and how I cared more about my dick that I did about her. She said how she was going to go off and become a teacher and live a wholesome life, etc., etc., etc. about three years to the day she called me and want to come back and try it again and reluctantly agreed. She came back to me 10 times worse than she left me. She was going to go out with a wholesome life and that wholesome life included stripping doing drugs living with a guy that was in the KKK just horrid. And I thought about her letter how MOS was so bad but what she was doing was just fine :D
What I learned is once a good girl gone bad she never coming back and nobody can be anybodys Savior. There’s only one the Savior and that’s Jesus Christ. And you’re correct we are all sinners but once we except Jesus Christ we are also Saints. So the best thing to do is pray for her and others like her to find their true husband, Jesus Christ. Then and only then will they find the relief there truly looking for. And believe me I speak from very intimate experience. I can write a bestseller just based on that relationship! I’m so glad that Jesus is with you and I’m also glad that you’re with us.
Man it is great to have you here. These stories are so real and maybe people in here will see the reality behind the scenes in ����. It is many mens dream that come here.
I've seen quite a few deaths in the industry, not a great place to be.
The strip club industry is so dirty as well. It's a shame how every club is a whorehouse, especially in Miami, Tootsies, Pink Pony (I got DLD laid there)
How are the mens strip clubs, are they fucking in there as well?
Did you make more as a dancer or as a ���� star? I know allot of ���� studs dont get paid well and even the same goes for women. Some of the women i knew made more money dancing than shooting scenes.
Unfortunately theres no dirtier place for strip clubs than down here in South FL. I had a lot of stripper friends in the late 2000's and they all HAD to quit because of prostitution in the business.
The economic depression hit around 2008, even strip clubs were hurt. People stop spending money, clubs decreased revenues, girls stopped making money. What the girls right off the boat did? In desperation for that extra $20 bill they started doing handjobs, then blowjobs, then openly just fucking in the lap dance rooms. Not even in the privates anymore, just the lap dancer couch, under the consent of the clubs. Security knows whats going on, ownership knows whats going on. As long as they pay their fair share to the right people, business will stay open. They fuck up, they get raided. So most of the old school girls couldnt keep up with it and just stopped dancing. The business was killed. Remember not too long ago they even used to come out with costumes? One was a sexy nurse, another a teacher, another a cop, a student, etc...now they just walk around with a tiny g string and topless.
Theres a place in Pompano, Diamond dolls. I used to go frequently back in the day. Knew multiple girls from NY, CA, Canada, and other states. That place now is 180 degree different. 98% of girls now there dont speak English, the pimps bring them up from Miami right off the boat. They will fuck you for little money in the couch and they are GORGEOUS. All cuban 18-23 year old. Sad reality but my junk likes it LOL.
In the case of male strip clubs is a different story. VERY RARELY there have been cases in which a guy has been caught fucking a girl inside the club. Thats a suspension and a second time is banned from the club. The owner down put up with that shit. Labare is the ONLY straight club for ladies only. Therefore is the ONLY place where cops can go undercover to bust a male strip club. Of course A LOT of fucking happens outside the club. Dating the girls, etc. Or me I escorted a few times. A lot of guys with money take their wives to the VIP and they are swingers. They pick the dancer they like, give him a good chunk of money and get his wife fucked in the hotel while he jerk off watching.
Money wise ���� was better. Stripping was very random depending on how many frequent customers you can make. ���� in those days a big company was paying 400-600 per shoot and the lesser known producers were paying 300-400 per shoot.
Wise words my friend!!! Couldnt agree more. There is no way to rescue those people, we can just pay for them.
I have a friend in the industry, he's a producer. Wont mention his name in public because he's still involved and trying to make a come back. He comes from a very dark background. Long story short, grew up to alcoholic and drug addict parents, his dad physically abused him his whole life, after separation his mom was bringing random guys home, passing out on the floor next to him at night, of course grew up on the streets committing random minor crimes, dealing with drugs, and as an addict too. Coke, meth, since early teens. Got in the ���� Biz in LA, moved to FL and started doing great. Became completely sober, clean, started doing very good as a producer, shooting for Score, Jim Gunn, Plumper Pass, Bang Bros, Josh Stone, Clubdom, etc. His decades of drug abuse took a toll on his body in his late 30's early 40's. Started having bad knee problems, back pain, teeth falling, eye cataracts, etc. In order to keep working, an evil doctor prescribed him pain killers for his knees and back. Thats the end of the story. Pills, became M&M's, not only for pain but for the brain. Wanted more and more. Couldnt shoot properly anymore, companies started using other people, broke up with his GF, pills were scarce so the dealer offered him heroin. Started shootin heroin, car was repoed, los his house, ended up on the street almost dead. A girl from ���� friend of him (Jamie Valentine) rescue him and took him to rehab. Since then he's been under controlled from drugs but alcoholic. IMO, is too late for him to go back to producing in ����, but he wont listen. He doesnt have a penny and every penny he makes from random low budget shoots spend it on booze and cigarettes.
You cant change people. Eventually they gravitate back to their origins. It is sad, because in reality it was never their fault, but as you say, we can pray and hope for the best. SOME CAN CHANGE THOUGH. We all share the same potential. It is just a matter of determination.
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Much smaller than they will ever tell us!
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@Jackxxx, I remember diamond dolls. I lived in Boca and one of my popular spots I hung at was Cheetahs up in pompano. I use to hang at allot of hood clubs like Flavors, Office, G Force, KOD and many other hood spots down in miami. I was tricking off to Blac Chyna for a while as well (allot say I was her first Rob Kardashian) lol. I hung out many nights with Dennis Rodman and had to take him home due to getting so fucked up.
The worst club I've ever been to out there was 525 on Sample Road next to the Porthole in that Brazillian Plaza. It was literally a hole in the wall. You would catch a disease just pissing in the bathroom there, I've seen so much bad shit happen in there and people die in the parking lot and they eventually condemned it.
I remember when they closed Cheetahs down on Hallendale for being a whore house. My wife even though working at Scarletts down the road was fortunate to get away from the fucking side in the clubs and focused on tourist traps in other States. Scarlets was more of a party club and it was really hard to make money in there. Actually, that was probably one of the only clubs I didnt spend money on dancers with. I blew all my money sitting in Skybox every week buying drinks.
When I met my wife, I had friends in Goldrush and I tried to get her a job there not realizing scarletts and goldrush were two completely different beasts. I ended up introducing her to Space and Molly and it blew her fucking mind. She had no idea about the night life in Florida and I popped her cherry on that one lol. She was really a lame when it came to anything outside the club.
She was the typical southern girl from the bible belt that left the small town life to Miami with a friend that knew a manager from dancing in Charlotte and started dancing in small spots. Her friend died In Miami from OD and my wife stood out there alone and got a job at Vegas Cabaret, then Solid Gold and then Scarletts became her permanent residence for 4 years.
When scarletts would close around 8am in the morning, me and a few of the dancers would go to Space until they closed in the afternoon and then Mecca (now closed) for the rest of the day and then back to the strip clubs. I did 40 hour straight party sessions back then. Sleeping in VIP etc.
Florida was very bad if you partied because its a place that never closes unlike NY or Vegas (I lived both those places as well).
My wife still dances but we left Florida years ago and moved out west and then came back to the east coast. She occasionally works in myrtle beach now during golf season and makes good money. She likes the Gentlemens clubs where the old men come in to talk all night and most are afraid to get a dance due to ED. She has it hard because clubs have a black dancer limit and now she is older and thicker its hard to compete with 20 year old Russian imports fucking everyone.
We use to travel allot, I played semi-pro poker across the US and she would dance at various clubs while I was racking up at the poker tables, it was good times man. Road trips and making money. We were true cowboys.
All the partying in Florida killed my liver and I got really sick and almost died, so nowadays, no more alcohol for me.
The worst club I've ever been to out there was 525 on Sample Road next to the Porthole in that Brazillian Plaza. It was literally a hole in the wall. You would catch a disease just pissing in the bathroom there, I've seen so much bad shit happen in there and people die in the parking lot and they eventually condemned it.
I remember when they closed Cheetahs down on Hallendale for being a whore house. My wife even though working at Scarletts down the road was fortunate to get away from the fucking side in the clubs and focused on tourist traps in other States. Scarlets was more of a party club and it was really hard to make money in there. Actually, that was probably one of the only clubs I didnt spend money on dancers with. I blew all my money sitting in Skybox every week buying drinks.
When I met my wife, I had friends in Goldrush and I tried to get her a job there not realizing scarletts and goldrush were two completely different beasts. I ended up introducing her to Space and Molly and it blew her fucking mind. She had no idea about the night life in Florida and I popped her cherry on that one lol. She was really a lame when it came to anything outside the club.
She was the typical southern girl from the bible belt that left the small town life to Miami with a friend that knew a manager from dancing in Charlotte and started dancing in small spots. Her friend died In Miami from OD and my wife stood out there alone and got a job at Vegas Cabaret, then Solid Gold and then Scarletts became her permanent residence for 4 years.
When scarletts would close around 8am in the morning, me and a few of the dancers would go to Space until they closed in the afternoon and then Mecca (now closed) for the rest of the day and then back to the strip clubs. I did 40 hour straight party sessions back then. Sleeping in VIP etc.
Florida was very bad if you partied because its a place that never closes unlike NY or Vegas (I lived both those places as well).
My wife still dances but we left Florida years ago and moved out west and then came back to the east coast. She occasionally works in myrtle beach now during golf season and makes good money. She likes the Gentlemens clubs where the old men come in to talk all night and most are afraid to get a dance due to ED. She has it hard because clubs have a black dancer limit and now she is older and thicker its hard to compete with 20 year old Russian imports fucking everyone.
We use to travel allot, I played semi-pro poker across the US and she would dance at various clubs while I was racking up at the poker tables, it was good times man. Road trips and making money. We were true cowboys.
All the partying in Florida killed my liver and I got really sick and almost died, so nowadays, no more alcohol for me.
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Holy shit you could write a book brother! I was I guess lucky that NEVER got tempted into drugs, alcohol. Ive always been on the "spiritual" side, always boosting my health with supplements and herbs to make me feel better. I guess thats why drugs never really attracted me. Also because I was doing ���� I was very conscious about sleeping good, being healthy, etc.
I STILL LOVE THE PORTHOLE IN POMPANO!!!! I LOVE caribbean girls. Ive never had preference in race, I just love and admire beauty. And the fact that the porthole always has girls rotating from all the islands I LOVE IT!!! never saw that other club in that same plaza though. Ive been at pink too the little box in pompano lol.
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Allot of close friends always say I should write a book or a biography. I have many stories revolving around the evolution of hip hop music, ����, strippers, pimps, drugs, celebs etc.
I never liked PortHole, it was way too smoky and I can't stand cigarettes. Plus when I went a few times the women were real trashy there and literally smoking cigarettes and dancing on stage. It was a complete boner killer for me no matter how drunk I was.
Scarletts has the big New Years eve celebration
every year and I use to always go. My wife and I talked about going down to it this year for our anniversary but then we woke up and did a reality check, and decided we are to old for that shit now......
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Allot of close friends always say I should write a book or a biography. I have many stories revolving around the evolution of hip hop music, ����, strippers, pimps, drugs, celebs etc.
I never liked PortHole, it was way too smoky and I can't stand cigarettes. Plus when I went a few times the women were real trashy there and literally smoking cigarettes and dancing on stage. It was a complete boner killer for me no matter how drunk I was.
Scarletts has the big New Years eve celebration
You're never too old for that brother!! Just keep it healthy and safe!
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there's a vicarious thrill to read about the dark side of humanity and it adds to the suspense if the writer is conveying these experiences first person. I've always been intrigued, (but I still have a very high 'fear factor') about the ���� industry and had a recent experience with a girl who said that she'd like to shoot a 'homemade' scene with me (so the seed has been planted, lol)
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It's a really dirty business, I've had good friends (studs) that got so mentally fucked up, it ruined their family life and they never recovered. I had a friend he just started cumming randomly in scenes without climaxing and it really screwed him up mentally.
Ill tell y'all my brief story in order to understand where do I come from and why I can be so critical about the industry.
I grew up in a conservative family. Not religious, however raised catholic. I would say normal childhood, never heard of evil. Never tried drugs, I guess in a way I was lucky to grow up in a very different world. It was just riding bikes and playing football outside every day. Climb cliffs, explore forests, eat fruits from trees, drink water from creeks. That was my life. Access to ���� was difficult. I learned what a condom was when I was 15 years old. Me and my brother found a stash of magazines in my dad closet and hats what pretty much all the ���� we had access too. Very sporadically a friend was able to get his hands on a VHS tape and that was the event of the year. I remember after watching a movie I would stay hard literally for HOURS. Kinda traumatized with the movie but horny like a bull. And I was 14-15 at that time.
Fast forward to now. I got married young. I was 25, she was 23. Responsibilities, school and other things took a toll in the relationship. My biggest frustration was sex. I Wanted to fuck 3-4 times a day, she barely had desire. Stress from work, bills to pay, university, was always her excuse. After almost 7 years, we divorced. Sex was not the only reason, but it was a big factor for me. It became a torture. I was going nuts psychologically, my behavior and character changed, everything. I never cheated on her. I decided that if this issue would lead to the end of the relationship, so be it. Burt living a parallel life of lies and secrets was not for me. I am a free American. I dont have to hide my life, nor what I need and feel.
When we divorced I was 32 (it took like 10 months after separation to be finally officially divorced) One day I was alone at my apartment and I said to myself "you know what? traditionally theres always been money in the ���� industry. I am still horny like when I was 20 and I have a decent size cock. What if I try that now?"
And thats the beginning of the story. I wanted to explain that I was a regular dude, from a conservative family, married with an 8-5 job, university degree that decided to join the ���� biz.
The vast majority of female and male talents join the ���� biz because of the problematic lives they had. They have no other option in life. Many are convicted felons, nobody would give them a normal job.
This however doesnt make them bad people. They just happen to have a different perspective of life. A different way to see the world. Many of these people have never helped 500 bucks in their hands before their first scene. So for them ���� is their life, and consequently, the celebrity status, party, money, drugs, brings many of them down like a rock.
After coming out of the industry, I know this sounds crazy for some, but I have realized that in life theres is good an evil. Inside the ���� industry you see so much suffering, tragedies, problems, struggles, it really makes you wonder if going that far to the point of sodomy is forbidden in life? It really makes you think about a dark world full of swamps and reptiles, spiders....full of pain and suffering. When outside, you worked hard, put sacrifice, make less money perhaps on early stages, BUT the sun is shining every morning. Birds are singing. You wake up to a lovely woman who loves you with her soul and makes a cup of coffee for you with all the love in the world.
The ���� industry and the dancing world gave me a huge lonely lifestyle. I have been single all these years. Dating girls here and there, but nothing truthful. The world changed my perception of women. I started judging women by the hundreds of women I fucked on camera and off camera. I couldnt find a woman outside because they did not match my perception of a woman. That recovery has taken a long time.
Only 2 years ago an ex girlfriend, who was an absolutely wonderful girl in every single aspect, in which I fucked up the relationship because of my own stupidity created by ����, opened my eyes like nobody did before. She told me: You have to realize that all these years you have been dating only strippers and ���������. That is not the majority of the population. An average girl does not think like your think they think. They are different. You have to try it, you have to open your eyes and expand your mind.
She really saved me with that. I started meeting other people, socializing more, I changed my perspective of life. I changed my scope. I was blinded after years of this dark world. I stopped assuming and prejudging, and has really opened the doors in my life to so many others things, even to get my life finally on track.
I grew up in a conservative family. Not religious, however raised catholic. I would say normal childhood, never heard of evil. Never tried drugs, I guess in a way I was lucky to grow up in a very different world. It was just riding bikes and playing football outside every day. Climb cliffs, explore forests, eat fruits from trees, drink water from creeks. That was my life. Access to ���� was difficult. I learned what a condom was when I was 15 years old. Me and my brother found a stash of magazines in my dad closet and hats what pretty much all the ���� we had access too. Very sporadically a friend was able to get his hands on a VHS tape and that was the event of the year. I remember after watching a movie I would stay hard literally for HOURS. Kinda traumatized with the movie but horny like a bull. And I was 14-15 at that time.
Fast forward to now. I got married young. I was 25, she was 23. Responsibilities, school and other things took a toll in the relationship. My biggest frustration was sex. I Wanted to fuck 3-4 times a day, she barely had desire. Stress from work, bills to pay, university, was always her excuse. After almost 7 years, we divorced. Sex was not the only reason, but it was a big factor for me. It became a torture. I was going nuts psychologically, my behavior and character changed, everything. I never cheated on her. I decided that if this issue would lead to the end of the relationship, so be it. Burt living a parallel life of lies and secrets was not for me. I am a free American. I dont have to hide my life, nor what I need and feel.
When we divorced I was 32 (it took like 10 months after separation to be finally officially divorced) One day I was alone at my apartment and I said to myself "you know what? traditionally theres always been money in the ���� industry. I am still horny like when I was 20 and I have a decent size cock. What if I try that now?"
And thats the beginning of the story. I wanted to explain that I was a regular dude, from a conservative family, married with an 8-5 job, university degree that decided to join the ���� biz.
The vast majority of female and male talents join the ���� biz because of the problematic lives they had. They have no other option in life. Many are convicted felons, nobody would give them a normal job.
This however doesnt make them bad people. They just happen to have a different perspective of life. A different way to see the world. Many of these people have never helped 500 bucks in their hands before their first scene. So for them ���� is their life, and consequently, the celebrity status, party, money, drugs, brings many of them down like a rock.
After coming out of the industry, I know this sounds crazy for some, but I have realized that in life theres is good an evil. Inside the ���� industry you see so much suffering, tragedies, problems, struggles, it really makes you wonder if going that far to the point of sodomy is forbidden in life? It really makes you think about a dark world full of swamps and reptiles, spiders....full of pain and suffering. When outside, you worked hard, put sacrifice, make less money perhaps on early stages, BUT the sun is shining every morning. Birds are singing. You wake up to a lovely woman who loves you with her soul and makes a cup of coffee for you with all the love in the world.
The ���� industry and the dancing world gave me a huge lonely lifestyle. I have been single all these years. Dating girls here and there, but nothing truthful. The world changed my perception of women. I started judging women by the hundreds of women I fucked on camera and off camera. I couldnt find a woman outside because they did not match my perception of a woman. That recovery has taken a long time.
Only 2 years ago an ex girlfriend, who was an absolutely wonderful girl in every single aspect, in which I fucked up the relationship because of my own stupidity created by ����, opened my eyes like nobody did before. She told me: You have to realize that all these years you have been dating only strippers and ���������. That is not the majority of the population. An average girl does not think like your think they think. They are different. You have to try it, you have to open your eyes and expand your mind.
She really saved me with that. I started meeting other people, socializing more, I changed my perspective of life. I changed my scope. I was blinded after years of this dark world. I stopped assuming and prejudging, and has really opened the doors in my life to so many others things, even to get my life finally on track.
I started having a different problem. Well, it has always been a characteristic in me, but it got worse. I couldnt cum. Naturally it takes along time for me to cum. It is called delayed ejaculation, and unfortunately theres little scientific research and medicine about it because most men are the opposite. Premature ejaculators.
But what really fucked me up and made it worse, was when I started fucking fat girls for score and plumper pass. That was the most difficult thing to do. It put so much stress in your mind, its hard to concentrate. I used to get away concentrating in their giant boobies and their pretty faces (when they were pretty) Of course I couldnt cum from intercourse so when I came the time to stop rolling and jerk off to set the cumshot, sometimes I had to jerk off for 10-15-20 minutes. It becomes HORRENDOUS. Time going by, sweating like a pig with the lights and no AC, dehydrated, tired, SICK OF THAT FAT COW in front of you, everybody in silence around you watching at the clock, etc....it is plain torture. THAT right there made my delayed ejaculation worse.
In my own personal research i know is all psychological. Its brain chemistry. I world love to have hypnosis therapy for that but I guess is expensive.
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