Complete newbie looking for advise

collagen gives gains? can u explain?

I believe I can offer some insights since red light therapy falls into my areas of researches in additional to dietary supplements via biochemical synthase processes. I'll try to use layman's terms to the best that I can, bit do let me know if you want to increase or reduce the complexity of the statements.

Since you have MOS Red, it's essential for you to understand its usages and the limits you should expose yourself for proper healing.

To provide you an overview of what I have, I use IR with healing stones (jades and tourmaline stones) as far back as 1998. Red light therapy recent becomes more popular in the past decades, so I invested in the Bio and BioMax 900 from Platinum Lights. All my equipment either meet or exceed international medical requirements after dozens of clinical studies for at least five years. Forget the crappy FDA that only got bought by political powers and influences.

Under red light therapy, natural collagen production starts at 0.3 J/cm2. What this means is it doesn't to make much to invoke collagen production using MOS Red. How long of an exposure and the light at 100 mW/cm2 is based on how far you sit/stand away from it. The recommended distance is 6 inches. Do know that sitting further than 6 inches will drop the irradiance (brightness intensity) by 1/3 to 1/2 the rating, which will force you to sit there longer.

Let just say you want collagen production, at 0.3 J/cm2 to initiate the collagen production, it will only take five to seven seconds. Longer exposure will force the cellular processes to engage high level of collagen production.

However! The international medical consortium warned not to exceed 25 J/cm2 of red light therapy a day per location. That means at 100 mW/cm2 at 6 inches, no more than 4 or 5 minutes of therapy light exposure per session, per day, for a single spot.

Using my BioMax 900, the company recommends 15 to 25 minutes a day, based on distance from the unit according to the measured irradiance level. I placed mine (when I'm not experimenting on supplements effects only) at 24 inches away, basing on 115 mW/cm2. I run five to six minutes on one side, and switch to the other, balancing our the exposure limits.

25 J/cm2 is considered as a baseline for diminishing returns. This means that any more will not help with additional benefits but create a regressive net loss using red light therapy.

If you need further discussions on this, I'll gladly chime in and expand the subject further.

By the way, don't just focus on collagen production but also muscle recovery. Here's a research validated list:

Collagen production: 0.3 J/cm2
Inflammatory response: 4 J/cm2
Prework out for faster recovery: 5 J/cm2
Arthritis and overall wellness, including tissue regenerative response: 25 J/cm2
Muscle recovery after workout: 75 J/cm2

Hope this helps you and the brothers.
 
I believe I can offer some insights since red light therapy falls into my areas of researches in additional to dietary supplements via biochemical synthase processes. I'll try to use layman's terms to the best that I can, bit do let me know if you want to increase or reduce the complexity of the statements.

Since you have MOS Red, it's essential for you to understand its usages and the limits you should expose yourself for proper healing.

To provide you an overview of what I have, I use IR with healing stones (jades and tourmaline stones) as far back as 1998. Red light therapy recent becomes more popular in the past decades, so I invested in the Bio and BioMax 900 from Platinum Lights. All my equipment either meet or exceed international medical requirements after dozens of clinical studies for at least five years. Forget the crappy FDA that only got bought by political powers and influences.

Under red light therapy, natural collagen production starts at 0.3 J/cm2. What this means is it doesn't to make much to invoke collagen production using MOS Red. How long of an exposure and the light at 100 mW/cm2 is based on how far you sit/stand away from it. The recommended distance is 6 inches. Do know that sitting further than 6 inches will drop the irradiance (brightness intensity) by 1/3 to 1/2 the rating, which will force you to sit there longer.

Let just say you want collagen production, at 0.3 J/cm2 to initiate the collagen production, it will only take five to seven seconds. Longer exposure will force the cellular processes to engage high level of collagen production.

However! The international medical consortium warned not to exceed 25 J/cm2 of red light therapy a day per location. That means at 100 mW/cm2 at 6 inches, no more than 4 or 5 minutes of therapy light exposure per session, per day, for a single spot.

Using my BioMax 900, the company recommends 15 to 25 minutes a day, based on distance from the unit according to the measured irradiance level. I placed mine (when I'm not experimenting on supplements effects only) at 24 inches away, basing on 115 mW/cm2. I run five to six minutes on one side, and switch to the other, balancing our the exposure limits.

25 J/cm2 is considered as a baseline for diminishing returns. This means that any more will not help with additional benefits but create a regressive net loss using red light therapy.

If you need further discussions on this, I'll gladly chime in and expand the subject further.

By the way, don't just focus on collagen production but also muscle recovery. Here's a research validated list:

Collagen production: 0.3 J/cm2
Inflammatory response: 4 J/cm2
Prework out for faster recovery: 5 J/cm2
Arthritis and overall wellness, including tissue regenerative response: 25 J/cm2
Muscle recovery after workout: 75 J/cm2

Hope this helps you and the brothers.

Excellent explanation
 
Okay, based on your responses and my newbie PE mind, I will write down the program that I think will be more gains profitable. Please, I'd like you to severely criticize this because I need to learn and also make the most amazing PE workout.
For example, If I am going too far, you have to let me know.
I will focus on both Length and Girth, but Girth is what I want most.

Morning Routine: Length Routine
Supplements → 1G of L-Proline → Collagen Production.
MOSRED → 8 mins → 6 inches away
Ligament & Ball Stretches → 5 Mins
LengthMaster Work → ~23 mins (Routine is MOS routine)
MOSRED → 15 mins → 7 inches away
Bandage (Jim's) → ~1 min→ Until Next LM Routine

Total Morning PE Workout: ~53 mins

Night Routine: Length & Girth Routine
Supplements → 1G of Liposomal vitamin C →Strengthens Collagens Produced.
Supplements → 900mcg vitamin A → Repair of skin tissue and can stimulate collagen production
Supplements → 15mg vitamin E → Helps protect collagen fibers from damage.
MOSRED → 8 mins → 6 inches away
Ligament & Ball Stretches → 5 Mins
LengthMaster Work → ~28 mins (Routine is MOS routine + Including Stretches for Girth)
Tie testicles with Jim's bandage → ~1 min
5x5x3 using bathmate and water → 45 mins (I have included my mistakes in time)
Cockring → 1 hour and 30 minutes
MOSRED → 15 mins → 6 inches away
Tie Penis with Bandage (Jim's) → 1 min → Until next LM Routine

Total Night PE Workout: 3 hours and 10 mins (Working PE Workout ~100 mins)

After Workout:
Very cold shower → 3 mins → Dopamine activation
Ice therapy in testicles → 5 mins → Testosterone activation for morning wood and erections for the routines.

Daily PE Workout 4 hours / day
Must be included: 30 mins of walking (gym)
Must be included: 30 mins of Cardio (3 times a week)

Results in 6 months based on projection:
0.7' in Girth if someone is healthy and diet = 70-30-30 (70% protein, 30% fat, 30% carbs)
2' in Length >> >> >> >> >> >>

For non-health (like me) projections:
0.3' in Girth
1.4' in Length

Please tell me your opinions.
 
Okay, based on your responses and my newbie PE mind, I will write down the program that I think will be more gains profitable. Please, I'd like you to severely criticize this because I need to learn and also make the most amazing PE workout.
For example, If I am going too far, you have to let me know.
I will focus on both Length and Girth, but Girth is what I want most.

Morning Routine: Length Routine
Supplements → 1G of L-Proline → Collagen Production.
MOSRED → 8 mins → 6 inches away
Ligament & Ball Stretches → 5 Mins
LengthMaster Work → ~23 mins (Routine is MOS routine)
MOSRED → 15 mins → 7 inches away
Bandage (Jim's) → ~1 min→ Until Next LM Routine

Total Morning PE Workout: ~53 mins

Night Routine: Length & Girth Routine
Supplements → 1G of Liposomal vitamin C →Strengthens Collagens Produced.
Supplements → 900mcg vitamin A → Repair of skin tissue and can stimulate collagen production
Supplements → 15mg vitamin E → Helps protect collagen fibers from damage.
MOSRED → 8 mins → 6 inches away
Ligament & Ball Stretches → 5 Mins
LengthMaster Work → ~28 mins (Routine is MOS routine + Including Stretches for Girth)
Tie testicles with Jim's bandage → ~1 min
5x5x3 using bathmate and water → 45 mins (I have included my mistakes in time)
Cockring → 1 hour and 30 minutes
MOSRED → 15 mins → 6 inches away
Tie Penis with Bandage (Jim's) → 1 min → Until next LM Routine

Total Night PE Workout: 3 hours and 10 mins (Working PE Workout ~100 mins)

After Workout:
Very cold shower → 3 mins → Dopamine activation
Ice therapy in testicles → 5 mins → Testosterone activation for morning wood and erections for the routines.

Daily PE Workout 4 hours / day
Must be included: 30 mins of walking (gym)
Must be included: 30 mins of Cardio (3 times a week)

Results in 6 months based on projection:
0.7' in Girth if someone is healthy and diet = 70-30-30 (70% protein, 30% fat, 30% carbs)
2' in Length >> >> >> >> >> >>

For non-health (like me) projections:
0.3' in Girth
1.4' in Length

Please tell me your opinions.

Are you using the LM or hands ? Edit: Scratch that you are. Good work brother!
 
You are doing great with note taking for your own personal journey. Keep it up. Ask questions and always ask for extreme critics. I always do the same. This is my opinion and mine alone. Do listen to others to get a broader perspectives based on their experiences. This is from my accumulative experiences, researches, and on-going endeavor.

Morning Routine: Length Routine
Supplements → 1G of L-Proline → Collagen Production.
MOSRED → 8 mins → 6 inches away
Ligament & Ball Stretches → 5 Mins
LengthMaster Work → ~23 mins (Routine is MOS routine)
MOSRED → 15 mins → 7 inches away
Bandage (Jim's) → ~1 min→ Until Next LM Routine

I have no measurement data for MOS Red for anything beyond 6 inches, so I can't provide optimal advices for you. However, I do like to provide insights on red light therapy. Make sure to use the red light therapy between 30 to 60 minutes before each session. Why? Cellular level activation requires the initial charge up after exposure to the red light spectrums, and 20 minutes to signal all other cellular activities. The younger you are, the fast the responses. The MOS Red instruction is 12 minutes for problematic area, and do not use in between 4 hours in between. Two sessions within 58 minutes exceed beyond the diminishing returns. If you must, only two sessions per day, one in the morning 20 to 30 minutes before PE, and one session at night, 20 to 30 minutes before PE. Three times is way too excessive in my opinions.

1G of L-Proline is excellent to provide bioavailability of collagen. However, one type of collagen is not sufficient for the body to absorb as the collagens come from different sources during dietary consumption. Clinical studies and biochemists/lab researchers noticed a faster interaction for effective internal collagen production (without red light therapy) by combining alanine (1.2g) , arginine (can be substitute with critulline for cheaper at 1.5g), glycine (3.5g), proline (2g), leucine (0.5g), valine (0.5g), threonine (0.3g), hydroxylysine (0.2g), with the delivery mechanism from aspartic acid (l-citrulline malate is nice sub at 1.5g) and glutamic acid (from any good diet of fruits and veggies at 2g). Combining with red light therapy, there's a duality to quintuplet effects on collagen production and absorption by the body. Do also consume the essential calcium (1g in the morning and 1 gram late in the afternoon) and Vit C & D (recommended dose based on age).

Night Routine: Length & Girth Routine
Supplements → 1G of Liposomal vitamin C →Strengthens Collagens Produced.
Supplements → 900mcg vitamin A → Repair of skin tissue and can stimulate collagen production
Supplements → 15mg vitamin E → Helps protect collagen fibers from damage.
MOSRED → 8 mins → 6 inches away
Ligament & Ball Stretches → 5 Mins
LengthMaster Work → ~28 mins (Routine is MOS routine + Including Stretches for Girth)
Tie testicles with Jim's bandage → ~1 min
5x5x3 using bathmate and water → 45 mins (I have included my mistakes in time)
Cockring → 1 hour and 30 minutes
MOSRED → 15 mins → 6 inches away
Tie Penis with Bandage (Jim's) → 1 min → Until next LM Routine

Once again. Way too much red light therapy.

As for vitamin and supplement consumption, it's better to have them consumed during active hours to prevent stomach lining irritation during rest phase and incomplete delivery. Your body will simply rejects the rest and it's a waste.

Application of Vit E using liquid application on external areas will help tremendously, especially during red light therapy. I can even say use it after the PE before bed time and before wrap up or use ADS unit. I use Vit E on my external skin to keep the glans nice and healthy during rest phases.

After Workout:
Very cold shower → 3 mins → Dopamine activation
Ice therapy in testicles → 5 mins → Testosterone activation for morning wood and erections for the routines.

Daily PE Workout 4 hours / day
Must be included: 30 mins of walking (gym)
Must be included: 30 mins of Cardio (3 times a week)

Results in 6 months based on projection:
0.7' in Girth if someone is healthy and diet = 70-30-30 (70% protein, 30% fat, 30% carbs)
2' in Length >> >> >> >> >> >>

For non-health (like me) projections:
0.3' in Girth
1.4' in Length

Dopamine is great if you're about to run around the neighborhood naked at night while feeling good. Otherwise, red light therapy will assist the resting. If you need dopamine for sleep, sleep naked in a cool room. I spread eagle a night in a 65F room and relaxed, while my wife bundle herself up at 90F+. SMH. Can't handle it. I sleep like a rock and she tosses and turns like a piggy in an oven being baked alive.

Getting a 0.7in girth in 6 months is possible. I'm already getting a 0.25in around 3 months putting efforts in each day with safe limits placed on my routine. For length at 1.4in, going aggressive mode in advance methods will get you there even faster in 6 months. Me, safe and slow pace reach my goal regardless. I don't care if it's 6 months, 12 months, or even 2 years. Wife is happy with each little gain and she can feel it. Her intense orgasms and climaxes provide the necessary feedbacks for my journey.

But I do caution you to put safety at the forefront of your mind. You only have one penis and a long lifetime ahead. Most girls like a penis around 6 to 7in length, but the optimal girth is 5in to 5.5in in circumference. 5in fits most relationship in the initial run, but after five years, that 5in circumference feels lack luster for most sexually active females. I wished I continued on towards 5.5. Now, I'm aiming for 6 to 6.3in. The tightness and responses from her body is phenomenal as the girth gets larger. Just something to think about.
 
For length work I ll go for Lengthmaster
Everything else hands

The length master can be used with any exercise , and it can also bundle any exercise

 
You are doing great with note taking for your own personal journey. Keep it up. Ask questions and always ask for extreme critics. I always do the same. This is my opinion and mine alone. Do listen to others to get a broader perspectives based on their experiences. This is from my accumulative experiences, researches, and on-going endeavor.



I have no measurement data for MOS Red for anything beyond 6 inches, so I can't provide optimal advices for you. However, I do like to provide insights on red light therapy. Make sure to use the red light therapy between 30 to 60 minutes before each session. Why? Cellular level activation requires the initial charge up after exposure to the red light spectrums, and 20 minutes to signal all other cellular activities. The younger you are, the fast the responses. The MOS Red instruction is 12 minutes for problematic area, and do not use in between 4 hours in between. Two sessions within 58 minutes exceed beyond the diminishing returns. If you must, only two sessions per day, one in the morning 20 to 30 minutes before PE, and one session at night, 20 to 30 minutes before PE. Three times is way too excessive in my opinions.

1G of L-Proline is excellent to provide bioavailability of collagen. However, one type of collagen is not sufficient for the body to absorb as the collagens come from different sources during dietary consumption. Clinical studies and biochemists/lab researchers noticed a faster interaction for effective internal collagen production (without red light therapy) by combining alanine (1.2g) , arginine (can be substitute with critulline for cheaper at 1.5g), glycine (3.5g), proline (2g), leucine (0.5g), valine (0.5g), threonine (0.3g), hydroxylysine (0.2g), with the delivery mechanism from aspartic acid (l-citrulline malate is nice sub at 1.5g) and glutamic acid (from any good diet of fruits and veggies at 2g). Combining with red light therapy, there's a duality to quintuplet effects on collagen production and absorption by the body. Do also consume the essential calcium (1g in the morning and 1 gram late in the afternoon) and Vit C & D (recommended dose based on age).



Once again. Way too much red light therapy.

As for vitamin and supplement consumption, it's better to have them consumed during active hours to prevent stomach lining irritation during rest phase and incomplete delivery. Your body will simply rejects the rest and it's a waste.

Application of Vit E using liquid application on external areas will help tremendously, especially during red light therapy. I can even say use it after the PE before bed time and before wrap up or use ADS unit. I use Vit E on my external skin to keep the glans nice and healthy during rest phases.



Dopamine is great if you're about to run around the neighborhood naked at night while feeling good. Otherwise, red light therapy will assist the resting. If you need dopamine for sleep, sleep naked in a cool room. I spread eagle a night in a 65F room and relaxed, while my wife bundle herself up at 90F+. SMH. Can't handle it. I sleep like a rock and she tosses and turns like a piggy in an oven being baked alive.

Getting a 0.7in girth in 6 months is possible. I'm already getting a 0.25in around 3 months putting efforts in each day with safe limits placed on my routine. For length at 1.4in, going aggressive mode in advance methods will get you there even faster in 6 months. Me, safe and slow pace reach my goal regardless. I don't care if it's 6 months, 12 months, or even 2 years. Wife is happy with each little gain and she can feel it. Her intense orgasms and climaxes provide the necessary feedbacks for my journey.

But I do caution you to put safety at the forefront of your mind. You only have one penis and a long lifetime ahead. Most girls like a penis around 6 to 7in length, but the optimal girth is 5in to 5.5in in circumference. 5in fits most relationship in the initial run, but after five years, that 5in circumference feels lack luster for most sexually active females. I wished I continued on towards 5.5. Now, I'm aiming for 6 to 6.3in. The tightness and responses from her body is phenomenal as the girth gets larger. Just something to think about.
I am very low on dopamine, serotonin, etc. I am on antidepressants. That's why I added these things. I didn't do it because it's fashion. I am 38 with no morning wood. Basically I have forgotten how's to have a morning wood. I have premature ejaculation and listen to this : ssris are not working on me. You can't comprehend how tiresome my mind is. My erections are like I am 65 years old.

So, you removed a portion of mosred, added bcaa's instead of 1 collagen production source.
I added / split mosred 2 times between 58 mins session for testicles massage and ligament stretching since my balls are too close to body but I ll change that and use it only once per se.
Dld said LM can be used with anything. I can't use it for my balls I guess :p
I am thinking of adding daily low level cold therapy from halipax for overall health. Do you have any thoughts on this ?
 
Depression is a chemical and biological imbalance. There are medical grade pharmaceutical substitutes to assist, but I rather not depend on chemical dependencies.

Suggestions:
  • HMB to boost natural testosterone production
  • Weight lifting or body weight calisthenics to reinforce body strengths and naturally invoke testosterone production. This is why I do resistance type cycling at constant high elevations to ease up on my joints at my age rather than uphill running and extreme weights that place my skeletal structures under extreme burdens. Rowing is another one, or long distance swimming.
  • Boost of B-complex, zinc, iron, and iodine to substitute missing essentials that known to induce depression.
  • If you have a special partner, I suggest cuddling. Endorphins, dopamine, and serotonin productivity work in concerts at optimal levels. Wife and I cuddle naked all night and morning as our bodies responses well in providing the necessary levels of the three hormones. If you don't, a cuddle body pillow may help.
 
Since you think of using BCAA, how about adding the EAA (essential amino acids) double dosing for a wee while, around 6 months to 12 months, on top to see if improvements come about. EAA can obtained in a bulk level for cheaper than a small container. Bulk Supplements is a great source for it. Compare to the existing load you are getting from your existing supplements, or even protein shakes if you are using one. I take EAA since I'm not drinking proteins supplements like my boys who are doing weights daily.
 
I do not know what HMB is but I forgot to say I am hypogonadic too? I am cursed haha ;)) I have so low T levels where's I can't get up from bed not even thinking of weights lol
Okay I ll try EAA with the routine I mentioned above and I ll check low level cold therapy too. I ll also push myself hard for weights.
 
I am very low on dopamine, serotonin, etc. I am on antidepressants. That's why I added these things. I didn't do it because it's fashion. I am 38 with no morning wood. Basically I have forgotten how's to have a morning wood. I have premature ejaculation and listen to this : ssris are not working on me. You can't comprehend how tiresome my mind is. My erections are like I am 65 years old.

So, you removed a portion of mosred, added bcaa's instead of 1 collagen production source.
I added / split mosred 2 times between 58 mins session for testicles massage and ligament stretching since my balls are too close to body but I ll change that and use it only once per se.
Dld said LM can be used with anything. I can't use it for my balls I guess :p
I am thinking of adding daily low level cold therapy from halipax for overall health. Do you have any thoughts on this ?
Lower in your balls has everything to do with exercise. And I highly recommend you. Follow my advice and use the ball and lig stretch. As this will lower your balls and give your penis much more room to grow
 
Lower in your balls has everything to do with exercise. And I highly recommend you. Follow my advice and use the ball and lig stretch. As this will lower your balls and give your penis much more room to grow
Ofc I will follow your advice. Is there any video example in the video section that i can find ?
 
LOL. Ask away when someone is uncertain. HMB is the supplement called hydroxymethylbutyrate. It addresses the cortisol and testosterone levels in the aging males, similar to females who lack estrogen in their systems during aging processes. Estrogen is more abundant in our society today than testosterone due to so much saturation of pharma products geared toward females. We breath and drink estrogenic compounds daily without knowing. It's a concern for males as we are being influenced by this.

Hypogonadism can be helped with RX medication in forms of testosterone production. Once again, we circle around chemical dependencies and not inducing natural production. We want fast and easy ways, but the only way is to force the body to produce it naturally through hard works, sweats, and tears. Hypogonadism also occurs naturally in men as they reach late into their 50s and older. This is why men cannot and must not be lazy as they get older. PE is an essential art to keep both our manhood strong and lively, while the survival strengthening routine keeps us healthy and alive.

We are here to help each other in this arena called life.
 
Ofc I will follow your advice. Is there any video example in the video section that i can find ?

Yes , go to the main forum and click on mos dvd and you will see the stretch
 
I would like to ask a newbie question. This question probably is about @DLD who has the huge experience.
My penis is the kind of penis with bigger base and goes narrower towards head.
For example, my base is 0,5' bigger than mid-shaft.
Lets do the maths. If my penis is 5.0' inches long and I do LM routines and lets say the penis becomes 6.0' inches long. The penis that will come out will have the BASE girth? Or it will be thinner like mid-shaft?
I know its very bad question but please bear with me @DLD
 
I would like to ask a newbie question. This question probably is about @DLD who has the huge experience.
My penis is the kind of penis with bigger base and goes narrower towards head.
For example, my base is 0,5' bigger than mid-shaft.
Lets do the maths. If my penis is 5.0' inches long and I do LM routines and lets say the penis becomes 6.0' inches long. The penis that will come out will have the BASE girth? Or it will be thinner like mid-shaft?
I know its very bad question but please bear with me @DLD
I'm not @DLD but I can answer this since I have increased 3+ (almost 4) inches in length with LengthMaster 3.

My penis got alot thicker at the midshaft as well from doing bundled stretches with LengthMaster 3.

Here is my progress album. Go back in time (you see the date ubder each photo) and compare, and you will have clear proof of what LengthMaster 3 will do for you (with correct programming).



View album 65
I did lengthmastering for ~1 year, and these hare the results.

I only did pump before I joined mattersofsize.com and I'm pumping now as well.



I hope this will ease your mind.

*Edit due to spelling errors.
 
I'm not @DLD but I can answer this since I have increased 3+ (almost 4) inches in length with LengthMaster 3.

My penis got alot thicker at the midshaft as well from doing bundled stretches with LengthMaster 3.

Here is my progress album. Go back in time (you see the date ubder each photo) and compare, and you will have clear proof of what LengthMaster 3 will do for you (with correct programming).



View album 65
I did lengthmastering for ~1 year, and these hare the results.

I only did pump before I joined mattersofsize.com and I'm pumping now as well.



I hope this will ease your mind.

*Edit due to spelling errors.
I cant believe your progress!!!!!
Please tell me your correct programming.
Share it with me. Let me be part of this programming.
Thanks
 
I cant believe your progress!!!!!
Please tell me your correct programming.
Share it with me. Let me be part of this programming.
Thanks
I feel like I should put out a specific program everyone can follow. The program is simple, but not simple to do, because you need to go really hard, with increasing intensity in an exponential way...until you reach max stretching force and intensity.

Here is the simple description.
Beginner routine >> Downward Bundled Stretches >> Behind The Cheeks Bundled Stretches.

If you want I can put a more detail program up.
But my 🔗 video thread and my 🔗 progress thread are going deep in the process I took.
 
I feel like I should put out a specific program everyone can follow. The program is simple, but not simple to do, because you need to go really hard, with increasing intensity in an exponential way...until you reach max stretching force and intensity.

Here is the simple description.
Beginner routine >> Downward Bundled Stretches >> Behind The Cheeks Bundled Stretches.

If you want I can put a more detail program up.
But my 🔗 video thread and my 🔗 progress thread are going deep in the process I took.
I know that I sound crazy but yes if possible, a more detailed program is better and ofc in a different post. We should also put a goal for each.
Also, I saw you waking up 4.00 AM? For Real? To balance PE life with Work Life?
 
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