Guidance for a frustrated brother

oldandlively said:

This is a trick our brother SIM used to keep the tissues malleable. Tissues reach malleability-plasticity at a certain temp, around 98F to 101F and allows crazy works to be performed. You just have to deal with dry and sweaty balls at the same time. Strange, but true.


Definitely. This is your journey and discoveries. Share, get recognized, and help other brothers.


This is why we keep logs and keep ourselves in check with gauges at all time. We don't based on "feelings" because our pain thresholds can cause our routines to go into the extreme way too fast. This is how we injure ourselves.


Always here for you brother. We are all here to help each other out.

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I live in the desert, so I think dry heat is amazing. Cold tight balls is one of my least favorite things in the world. The hotter , longer and looser they are the better! Wish they were always like that! 🤙 to each their own though!

Owally said:

I live in the desert, so I think dry heat is amazing. Cold tight balls is one of my least favorite things in the world. The hotter , longer and looser they are the better! Wish they were always like that! 🤙 to each their own though!

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My areas are hot and humid. The term "ball sweat" is an understatement. More like "a pond of ball sweat".

Abdiel Bull Berg said:

Only thing I would point out regarding your Theraband wrapping is to get no wrinkles or edges when wrapping it on. What I’m trying to say is to get it as clean and smooth as you can if you get what I mean.

@squirt_inducer_man was very adamant about getting the Theraband as straight, tight and «wrinkle-free» as possible for a better grip on your unit.

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Abdiel Bull Berg said:

Aah, folds was actually the word I was looking for, haha, english is my second language so I forget some words some times. Thank you for clearing that up brother.

And yes brother SIM is VERY meticulous in everything he does, especially regarding the wrapping, without him I would not have gotten my wrapping technique down as good as I do now.

Yepp, brother SIM always talked about taking some personal time when he used to be hyper active on here but he never managed to do so then. Glad he finally did. We used to talk a bit privately via Google Chat as well so I know he felt like he needed it. But he’ll definitely be back, no doubt in my mind.

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Makes perfect sense. I figured folds and creases / wrinkles were not ideal. Makes sense that they could be pinch points too. That'll be my focus tomorrow morning, minimizing the folds and creases. At least in the first layer against the skin. Ideally no wrinkles anywhere, but I'll take any technique win I can.

Thanks for the pointers! Much appreciated!

oldandlively said:

My areas are hot and humid. The term "ball sweat" is an understatement. More like "a pond of ball sweat".

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Not sure what the correct way is to acknowledge that, because "like" feels weird. But I appreciate it? Haha.

Owally said:

Makes perfect sense. I figured folds and creases / wrinkles were not ideal. Makes sense that they could be pinch points too. That'll be my focus tomorrow morning, minimizing the folds and creases. At least in the first layer against the skin. Ideally no wrinkles anywhere, but I'll take any technique win I can.

Thanks for the pointers! Much appreciated!

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Much much better. Still learning but on a better path.

Thank you very much!! @Abdiel Bull Berg

Owally said:

Much much better. Still learning but on a better path.

Thank you very much!! @Abdiel Bull Berg

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No problem brother, here to help when I can.

And it definitely looks like you’re getting the hang of it now as those last pictures of your wrapping, as you said, looks much, much better. Looks clean and smooth as it should do.

One of my last updates on this thread before I go back to my log thread to document hopeful progress.

I think I've finally gotten better at wrapping, and at staying as flaccid as possible. Sounds weird but that's been a big challenge with bundles.

Does anyone else notice that bundling one direction (cw or ccw) tends to twist easier? I find when I bundle counter clockwise my rotation is super easy but less so going clockwise. I do have a ton of muscle imbalance, mainly from 16 years of physical labor hammering, grinding, drilling etc that shows its face lifting weights, so could it be the same thing down there? One side is tighter or shorter? My left ball always hangs higher and sometimes pulls up almost painfully tight during sex. Maybe it's related to feeling tighter with bundles.

I think I'm nearing the end of my newbie questions, thanks for sticking by my side. I think I'm turning the corner.

Owally said:

Does anyone else notice that bundling one direction (cw or ccw) tends to twist easier?

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Yes. My CW is much easier than my CCW. My CW, when I strap the plates below my glans, can go 2.5 rotations. For my CCW can only go to 2.25 rotations. However, do not stop until you reach equal rotations for both sides. Otherwise, you have an imbalance tissue contortion for your routines.

Owally said:

I find when I bundle counter clockwise my rotation is super easy but less so going clockwise. I do have a ton of muscle imbalance, mainly from 16 years of physical labor hammering, grinding, drilling etc that shows its face lifting weights, so could it be the same thing down there? One side is tighter or shorter?

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Yes, and yes. This is why we always encourage and remind the brothers to exert the same force up, down, left, right, and rotations for equal stress loads and equal stress time. Notice how we mention constantly on the monitoring, observation, and consistency. This is to prevent issues that can manifest out of the blue.

Owally said:

My left ball always hangs higher and sometimes pulls up almost painfully tight during sex. Maybe it's related to feeling tighter with bundles.

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No. This is a very common medical issues. During sex, your body gets aroused, and your scrotum and balls can cause unique offsets. You can actually alleviate the issues with the ball stretch routines.

Owally said:

I think I'm nearing the end of my newbie questions, thanks for sticking by my side. I think I'm turning the corner.

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I highly doubt it

oldandlively said:

Yes. My CW is much easier than my CCW. My CW, when I strap the plates below my glans, can go 2.5 rotations. For my CCW can only go to 2.25 rotations. However, do not stop until you reach equal rotations for both sides. Otherwise, you have an imbalance tissue contortion for your routines.


Yes, and yes. This is why we always encourage and remind the brothers to exert the same force up, down, left, right, and rotations for equal stress loads and equal stress time. Notice how we mention constantly on the monitoring, observation, and consistency. This is to prevent issues that can manifest out of the blue.


No. This is a very common medical issues. During sex, your body gets aroused, and your scrotum and balls can cause unique offsets. You can actually alleviate the issues with the ball stretch routines.


I highly doubt it

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Ball stretching was my intro to this forum and now PE. I started trying to stretch them, I made some headway, and will resume someday. Seems, for me personally, too much at once to do both. But yes, it's definitely something I'm slowly working at. Plus, my wife loves when they're longer and slappier... can't deny her that!

I'm nearing the end of my first full non-frustrated week of the LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging every morning, and I'm getting pretty irritated and almost scab-like right behind my glans. I assume this is normal... I'm using lotion / healing cream at night to help, and it has, but if it keeps up, I won't be having any sex because I need to heal up, and what's the point of doing PE if you can't use it?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong yet again, maybe it's par for the course.

Owally said:

Ball stretching was my intro to this forum and now PE. I started trying to stretch them, I made some headway, and will resume someday. Seems, for me personally, too much at once to do both. But yes, it's definitely something I'm slowly working at. Plus, my wife loves when they're longer and slappier... can't deny her that!

I'm nearing the end of my first full non-frustrated week of the lengthmaster every morning, and I'm getting pretty irritated and almost scab-like right behind my glans. I assume this is normal... I'm using lotion / healing cream at night to help, and it has, but if it keeps up, I won't be having any sex because I need to heal up, and what's the point of doing PE if you can't use it?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong yet again, maybe it's par for the course.

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Your glans will condition up to the level of non irritation and scabbing. You are starting out on a more aggressive and higher intensity than most devices out there. Your penis needs to adjust first. It will take a couple of months for the skin to become resistant to irritation. Use hydrocortisone 0.5% or 1% overnight and right after the session to was up the irritation, while keeping the skin from chaffing.

oldandlively said:

Your glans will condition up to the level of non irritation and scabbing. You are starting out on a more aggressive and higher intensity than most devices out there. Your penis needs to adjust first. It will take a couple of months for the skin to become resistant to irritation. Use hydrocortisone 0.5% or 1% overnight and right after the session to was up the irritation, while keeping the skin from chaffing.

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I'm going to get some hydrocortisone this weekend. I've been using Boudreaux's Butt Paste, it works miracles on repairing my hands when they tear, and it's made for butts, so I figured it was better than nothing.

Glad it's not unheard-of. I figured I'm really stressing some skin that's only designed to interact with soft things, so it's pretty easily irritated. Hopefully it'll get better, I know my wife will stop being supportive of these efforts if it looks like I'm damaging it or causing me to be unavailable for a bit.

Owally said:

I'm going to get some hydrocortisone this weekend. I've been using Boudreaux's Butt Paste, it works miracles on repairing my hands when they tear, and it's made for butts, so I figured it was better than nothing.

Glad it's not unheard-of. I figured I'm really stressing some skin that's only designed to interact with soft things, so it's pretty easily irritated. Hopefully it'll get better, I know my wife will stop being supportive of these efforts if it looks like I'm damaging it or causing me to be unavailable for a bit.

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It will. And it will be conditioned even stronger in the latter days.

When your wife sees and feels the new pleasures, she'll say, "Should have stated this years ago." My wife was not for me to resume PE at first, but the moment she felt the new increased size in her, she expected a certain size for me to meet down the road. What females say is completely of what they mean most of the times.

oldandlively said:

It will. And it will be conditioned even stronger in the latter days.

When your wife sees and feels the new pleasures, she'll say, "Should have stated this years ago." My wife was not for me to resume PE at first, but the moment she felt the new increased size in her, she expected a certain size for me to meet down the road. What females say is completely of what they mean most of the times.

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In my experience most women don’t even know what they want until they actually get it, whatever IT is.

And most of them loves to stare at a man’s crotch to check out what we are packing, it’s just human/female nature to be curious about that.

Come next summer I’ll be walking my dog while wearing my Under Armour boxers(that just looks like a tight shorts)even more as I find it pretty amusing seeing females trying not to get caught staring at my junk, haha.

Yeah, guess I’m a bit weird like that showing of my muscular and ripped body while rocking a good flaccid size that will be even bigger come next summer.

oldandlively said:

It will. And it will be conditioned even stronger in the latter days.

When your wife sees and feels the new pleasures, she'll say, "Should have stated this years ago." My wife was not for me to resume PE at first, but the moment she felt the new increased size in her, she expected a certain size for me to meet down the road. What females say is completely of what they mean most of the times.

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Yep, every time I wear a ring she's very obvious about how much more she enjoys it. Someday I hope that'll be my size or more without any equipment.

I just got my hydrocortisone, and I've been doing my version of familiar skin healing, Boudreaux's, and I think I'll be back in action next week. I've been going the first half of the day with my ADS, then after lunch switching to my lightest pressure cock ring and silisleeve with boudreaux's around the base of my glans. The sleeve keeps things from drying out, and the ring helps keep me filled out in the sleeve while I'm working. I don't have much luck with the sleeves... only occasionally use them at night.

Not sure if this method of skin healing is useful to anyone, but it's working for me.