Cocky & Funny

ItsElectric

Active member
Joined
Jun 4, 2003
Messages
1,910
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#1
C&F (Cocky & Funny) is an important part of my game. It displays confidence, wit, and intelligence, traits women like. However there are a lot of mistakes I've made when I thought I was being C&F, and I later realized they were not C&F at all.

I hope to outline the uses and mistakes in here. All examples field-tested or stolen by myself or others, props to DDE and other board members , I can't remember who said what first after all this time.

There's different types of C&F. Remember Family Ties with Alex P. Keaton? Maybe some of you younger kids won't unless you watch reruns. Or else, if you watch The West Wing, look at Josh's character, they're very similar. Or sometimes Sam's character as well. Anyways, Alex Keaton was so in love with himself, it was funny. We would laugh in disgust thinking about how someone could be so vain. But we knew he wasn't, he couldn't be, and that's what made us laugh. That's what I first related to anyways. Examples of this include:

I look good tonight, don't I? You look good too, but I look even better. (Actual Josh from West Wing quote)

Of course you're having a great time, you're with me.
There's the false modesty that isn't so false. I like to sigh or shake my head and try to keep a straight face but with a slight grin while making direct EC with a girl:

It's not easy being handsome, charming, and intelligent.
Maybe not direct textbook definition, but I'd consider it a part of C&F when you're teasing a girl playfully, as it shows humor as well as confidence in not being afraid of making fun of a girl in a good way to get her emotionally into a conversation instead of standard fluff:

Nice shoes, what are you usually? 4 feet?

You smell great, is that Burger King? (said after HB told me she was eating there with a friend earlier).
You can use it to send mixed signals:

All these girls chasing me gets exhausting.

Yeah, you're pretty cool, even if you are abusive. (said after playful hitting kino)
C&F can also be directed into more sexual talk:

-me- What are you thinking?
-her- Guess.
-me- Oh...I don't wear ANYTHING to bed dear.
You want emotions. You want her to get animated and laugh. It makes her more comfortable. I've had a few girls blush even. That's okay. You can always tease them about the blushing too.

However, there are a few common mistakes, and I'm guilty of all of them. Learn from them:

1) Firstly, it's C&F for a reason: You need them both together. Being just cocky makes you come across as an arrogant ass. Being funny isn't good enough. I know many funny AFC's who rip on themselves, and yes it is funny, but doesn't impress women. I know this from personal experience. So keep them together.

2) Don't be an asshole. Teasing is about getting her laughing and blushing. You are not trying to put her down or make her feel like shit about herself. Light, playful, funny. Not bashing, ripping, tearing.

Sometimes we get carried away at first by C&F, and sometimes I still do. How I make sure about this is if what I am saying is out of confidence, I am being C&F. If what I am saying is because I am feeling insecure and trying to knock her down so I don't feel as intimidated, then it's being an asshole.

*** This is not to be confused with a neg. However, negs are subtle planned hints that carefully knock a conceited target off her perch, NOT a full-blown punch to the face like getting carried away with C&F is ***

3) Be prepared for cutting remarks. Sometimes something you say just won't work with a chick. The example of teasing a girl about being short, well you may run across a chick who has serious insecurities about her height stemming from a long period of teasing throughout high school blahblahblah. Bottom line, not everything will connect and be money. It's just like an approach, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Also, don't admire your C&F too much. Some chicks are very very witty and will tease you right back. There's no worse feeling than coming up with a great C&F comment and then being left speechless as she pulls up a perfect witty reply. I love these types of conversations, but sometimes I have been caught off-guard by replies and looked dumb. Reminds me of beach volleyball, a teammate who struggled with his serve would always admire his serve when it got over the net, too much admiration that he'd miss when the ball was returned right back at him.

4) Recover from the bad ones gracefully. This often connects with the second mistake. If I make a C&F comment and she doesn't get it, I might act like an asshole in defense. Trying to explain it, while I thought was funny, was actually arrogant. Instead, play with it.

-me- You're kinda a violent dancer
-her- What?
-me- No, I mean it in a good way
-her- Uhhh is that a compliment?
-me- Yeah it's not a very good one I admit.
She didn't laugh at that first line of mine but she laughed eventually. The recovery may not be C&F but it wasn't supplicative either. Not like one of my fav pickup lines, "Do you want to fuck or should I apologize now?"

C&F is about confidence. The ratio of C to F doesn't really matter in my book. It could be 90/10 or 10/90, so long as both are there. I found that in life, I would make all these charming, witty remarks that would impress friends. However around women I became passive. All I needed to do was just extend my personality the way I was around friends, co-workers, classmates, to the world of dating.

If you are having trouble with it, think of being this witty, charming, funny person who says brilliant things all day. Now go out and observe life and think about what you would say if you had the balls to say it? Think about these great lines. Now you've got the mind working on how to create C&F.

Then get the balls to do it. Just start saying the first things that come to mind to develop your quick wit. Trial and error, we all have bad ones. But quite often when I started this around women, I would end up hesitating and thinking and then the moment is lost. Even if the line was C&F a few seconds ago, conversation flies by and it won't even make sense later.

Finally, remember, C&F is not being an asshole. C&F is creating attraction and getting her passionate and emotional without trying to hurt her or fuck up her mind.
_________________________

Credit: http://www.seductionbb.com

-ItsElectric
 
Joined
Aug 23, 2003
Messages
772
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#2
Great post! I'll have to try some of this. Girls definitly like the "bad guy" with a sense of humor.
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2003
Messages
656
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#3
I just love making a girl laugh it makes everything easier, the worst part is when they don't get what you're saying, like the dreaded "huh" it could mean they didn't hear you, and if you say it again and they didn't get it and still don't get it, you're in a pretty awkward position.
I become friends with a lot of girls, and If I really like them, they'll probably be lucky enough to go out with me
 

ItsElectric

Active member
Joined
Jun 4, 2003
Messages
1,910
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#4
Originally posted by fallen_one23
I just love making a girl laugh it makes everything easier, the worst part is when they don't get what you're saying, like the dreaded "huh" it could mean they didn't hear you, and if you say it again and they didn't get it and still don't get it, you're in a pretty awkward position.
I become friends with a lot of girls, and If I really like them, they'll probably be lucky enough to go out with me
If this is the case I would then tease them about how bad their hearing is, or how they don't get it. ;) Easy.

-ItsElectric
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2003
Messages
51
Likes
0
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#5
I think the credit should go to David DeAngelo...not some obscure dating board IMO...
 

ItsElectric

Active member
Joined
Jun 4, 2003
Messages
1,910
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#6
Originally posted by Blade
I think the credit should go to David DeAngelo...not some obscure dating board IMO...
Well, it was the board that wrote this up so they got the credit.. SeductionBB is just like fast seduction except much more organized with their forums. I do give David D credit for coining C+F though.

-ItsElectric
 
Joined
Sep 6, 2003
Messages
194
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#7
Great post bro...I agree with you cocky and funny is a great way to getgirls. Basically my strategy is to just tease and bag on women. Of course as you say it is important make it come off as just playing and not seriously trying to hurt them! THe worst thing to do when trying to get girls is to always be super nice and agree with them on everything, etc....then they will always consider you a nice guy but they will want to nothing to do with you as far as dating and having sex! Also as itselectric says, its important to say whats on your mind and not think too much. You have to be spontaneous, that way you come off natural and confident. THis strategy has worked wonders for me in getting girls, especially ones with big butts lol

Bigbuttlover
 

ItsElectric

Active member
Joined
Jun 4, 2003
Messages
1,910
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#8
Originally posted by bigbuttlover
THis strategy has worked wonders for me in getting girls, especially ones with big butts lol
Of course! lol C+F is probably THE way to go when talking to women, I can't imagine running patterns or anything, it would just seem to fake. Another one I like is the Push-Pull method.

-ItsElectric
 
Joined
Jul 23, 2003
Messages
92
Likes
0
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#9
Why do you have to put on this fake act. Just be yourself. The only thing I do is think before I do something and if I know people with think its stupid I won't do it.
 

ItsElectric

Active member
Joined
Jun 4, 2003
Messages
1,910
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#10
Originally posted by Synthetic
Why do you have to put on this fake act. Just be yourself. The only thing I do is think before I do something and if I know people with think its stupid I won't do it.
For some people being themselves when around women means, buying stuff for them, following them around, getting stuff for them, and treating them like they're queens. They're not, so they shouldn't get any special treatment. After doing this enough, this becomes you (if you want). Sort of reprogramming the chumps into the pro's. :)

-ItsElectric
 

penguinsfan

Active member
Joined
Jun 20, 2003
Messages
4,094
Likes
7
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#11
I don't know if I'm totally sold on "cocky" and funny, but at a bare minimum I could buy into "confident" and funny. If one is trying to be funny, but is clearly insecure and nervous, it will come through and be seen for what it is.
 

ItsElectric

Active member
Joined
Jun 4, 2003
Messages
1,910
Likes
2
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#12
Originally posted by penguinsfan
I don't know if I'm totally sold on "cocky" and funny, but at a bare minimum I could buy into "confident" and funny. If one is trying to be funny, but is clearly insecure and nervous, it will come through and be seen for what it is.
Yeah confident and funny would be a better name for it. :) There's a big defference in being "cocky" and being an "asshole" hehe. It's easy to go too far on this. The trick is to keep her smiling while you do it.

-ItsElectric
 
Joined
Jun 30, 2004
Messages
53
Likes
0
|
"Cocky & Funny"
#13
C+F IS Magic! I have always been C+f around my girl FRIENDS and they literally LOVED Me. However, when ever i was around a girl in my same league (9-10, i am a sexy devil!) I would pull out the agreeing with them, nice guy thing---and I would get the absolute cold shoulder. Then after reading Doubleyourdating --david Deangelo's book I realized ALMOST ALL my hookups where when I acted like I didn't give a shit what they thought of me and I would tease them etc. FOr instance, here is an example: I modeld my voice after Patrick Bateman from American Psycho through out this scenario (happend last weekend)

Hot ass girl with a bubbly personality walks by with a barret on.

Me: Nice Barret (sarcastic like-she stops) Pause..
Me: Last time I saw a barret was at my last Prince Concert
Her: What you don't like my barret? (expects me to backpeddle)
Me: Well....I guess you pull it off..you have that whole look to you...(pause-waiting for her to ask the question she asked next)
Her: What look is that?
Me: That whole..angry militant look (funny because she is a bubbly socialite)
Her: Laughs--look of disbelif
Me: Well, its not my first choice but (slight pause) I guess you have to work with what your given.
Her: Laughs

Worked like majic--after talking for a while she started asking me where I went to school,etc.

Me: "What is this a Job interview--get real--here i will allow you to buy me a drink--I will lead the way"

I reach out my hand and she takes it while i walk to the bar with her. About half-way to the bar i turn to her and say "listen I don't hold hands with strange women i just met 10 minutes ago" --straight from doubleyourdating. Anyway, later through the night i would continue to bump her hand and accuse her of trying to hold my hand.

Anyway, i hope that helps a little. I am no god at this yet but I hope to be a Don Juan in 2 years time. Penis Enlargement WILL HELP DRAMATICALLY so my subconscious doesn't try to sabotage my game.
 
Last edited:

Members online

Top Bottom