Correct. Effective wrapping is about keeping the entire penis elongated to the maximum length close to or exceed the routine post length, without any numbness, color changes, or pain. There is no loss for keeping the penis elongated at 90% either. 100% is welcomed, but take what you can get with the most comfortable wrapping.
lol... i think she ignores it and focuses on the endgame(cwl). she knows i exercise and has supported it.
working on the looser wrap. and good insight on the color changes to gauge by. wrapping prior to hanging definetly more comfortable as well and less discoloration afterwards
YES! Actually, this is why we encouraged light hanging, when the brothers want that approach, at first after light stretching exercises. Never start heavy. Always start light. DLD did mention start with the 1lb at first, and slowly, ever slowly, increase. What you have discovered is what was found the most effective since the days of old. Low tension and long period allows the tissues to not detect the micro traumas it fears encountering. Those who use 5lbs to 10lbs right away notice the penis fight back even harder. In your case, the body detects the tissues are in need of extending further, possible for procreation purposes, so the tissues and muscles relaxed even further. Stay the course brother. Don't increase the weight.
Wishful or scientifically observed?
Yes i started with 1 pound but over a year I was using 20 pounds. From there i used heavier and heavier weight. When I first started with minimum weight helped but as I went up in weight I made no gains. This when I first created the lengthmaster gains came so quickly and continued till I took a break. With hanging i made very little growth, about .25 gains but with the lengthmaster i gained 3 inches.
Thank you! since your response, i've been trying to read more on hanging and loosening of the ligaments/tunica, outside of manual stretching. it definetly seems like light hanging (say up to 5-10 lbs) is much less problematic as far as risk, etc. i've also seen where some feel you MUST get to heavy hanging to see significant length gains. I suspect if i want to stay at lighter weights, more sessions/time is necessary? Never really explored this approach- but want to not waste time either. under these limitations, any recommendations on routine? seems like you have some experience here and favorable results as well i suspect.
much better choice of words. we'll see how it continues and your response to previous post... i'm thinking scientifically observed
Stay as light as possible until you actually need to go up in weight. When I stopped my long session of experimental hanging, I was around 7.5lbs. At times, I jumped to 10 lbs for 2 minutes, and up to 40lbs (as experimental only) for 30 seconds) to test out the equipment failure rate strapping onto my penis. But yeah, never again going past 15lbs. You don't need that kind of high weight to gain. That's extremely detrimental to tissue shocks that will yield nothing but negative impacts, that is, you're a very very very very.. .. .. .. .. long time hanger. I witnessed a 60lbs hanger. I instinctively cover my crotch in pure reflexive pain. Too much risk for the gain. Find alternative methods rather than placing your penis into such high risk gains.
Yes. We're seeing more strategic methods to get significant gain, or even coming out of the plateau, but inducing tissues to soften up and breaking the bonds at moderate traction force through smart traumas. HUH?! An example. If you try to soften the tissues to expand and elongate your penis, you want to use twisting/contortion of the lateral tissues as much as you can. This allows the cells to be under constant strains to break bonds during the twists from one direction to another. By adding both tug/pull while your penis is twisted in either direction, you're adding secondary stress loading that doesn't need that much traction force, or hanging weight, but yield the same results as heavier weights. The quickest comparison is a young plant that being only pulled to lengthen the inner cell structures on a training trellis vs the plant that being twisted, bent, and pulled at the same to achieve greater growth potential on a dynamic trellis. Ever grown a pomegranate or an olive tree? Those who do know exactly what I'm talking about.
Definitely, just like what I mentioned above. It's about twisting your penis in one full direct fully, record the degrees of contortion, and slowly, every slowly pull/push the penis in one direction to test the limited of the traction force under contortion. Do the exact same thing when going in the other direction. You'll be surprise how very little traction force/weight to yield the same results as stronger/heavier traction force/weight. Give it a try. Tell us what you discovered and we'll go from there to modify things accordingly.
thank you for the insight and encouragement. what would be a ballpark timeframe before increasing weight? figuring a couple 20 min sessions/day to start and then increasing # of sessions before increasing weight.
so i guess i should increase my ability to bundle stretch then. Not really good at it yet- it seems when you have a tighter (less stretchy) tunica and average penis length, it's a little more difficult. so many benefits to being longer. (cwl)
0.5lb of weight every 3 to 5 weeks at the fastest, or every 12 weeks at the slowest. But when you reach optimal growth rate, hold at the weight until you are not gaining any further for at least 8 weeks before moving on. There is a scientific evaluation of biological phenomenon on this published as far back as 1920s in observation of stunt growth, with traction control for new growths.
So far, approaching 2.5in of growth in length, and hanging only contribute less than 10%.
understood. based on increases in a matter of week periods, what would a reasonable "optimal growth rate" be? since my typical PE program involves manual stretches, pumping and now light hanging- any suggestion on the order of exercises. i usually manually stretch first, pump and then hang. Thinking since i primarily want to focus on length gains, first anyways, perhaps hanging followed by stretching then pumping might yield the most efficient growth. Thoughts?
wow! congratulations. starting/current measurements/timeframe?
Thank you. It's to be expected and not something really boasted. I took the safest route with average gains.
That is correct. In reality, the hanging allow the tissues to constantly get stressed in a static stressor to get the tissues primted for the extender and pumping sessions. I've done that in the past, but now, I'm experimenting with the dynamic stress loading for the brothers. We have to try out everything to understand how our bodies react to different ways. This is the foundation of our knowledge for the brotherhood.
As our brothers need more evidence, the veterans are trying hard to provide insights through their journey. Brothers @Haursen @Infected Mushroom @9.5inchpro and many great brothers not being listed are contributing excellent info for compilation. Even our brother @notmeanymore provides evidence of worst case scenario while offering up-to-date critical info as he's healing. Every little info helps us to provide existing and new brothers with solid foundational info for our own journeys.and also... appreciate your time and insight in the very detailed and helpful responses
Optimal growth rate can be visually observed, and part of that which cannot be. For visually observable, it's around 0.25in per 4 to 6 months. Cementing of permanent gain accounts for the 8th to 9th month mark. That's optimal. However, there are hidden gains that cannot be observed. It will suddenly pops out of the blue along with what's observable. It can be as little as 0.15in to as much as 1in. This has been documented over and over again. So, you can gain as much as 1.25in within 6 to 8 months out of the blue. You may not see any gain at all for 6 months, and all of a sudden, a gain that baffles your mind.
If you care to share more details about your historical background in terms of genetic, the tallest vs the shortest member of your 5 generations, the health history (healthiest vs the sickest and strongest vs weakest), your current best gains vs your worst gains (which is 0 or even shrinkage), we can do a trend analysis for routine approaches.
Exactly. As we have discussed, bundled stretches using the contortion stress loading is essential. Twisting one direction to the max and hold it there, even place stress loads during a light pull, will generate phenomenal workout.
worst case is right. its death. i wont live much longer if i keep at it like this. its crippled me to no end. this stuff is praised so much,i got completely blindsided jsut trying to improve my erections, and went down a rabbit hole i cant get out of. had no idea it could cause me to die. if your junk works, walk away and go fishing or something. i wish i could. you wont even know it when it happens.as it stands, i cant walk to get the mail without major discomfort and extreme anxiety from all the issues i have from it .
if i dont ever fix this, it will kill me . and i feel like thats not far off. ive already lost a job. i can only halfway function in sleep.
