Hello I just joined the site and am waiting for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] to arrive also.. I just wanted to introduce myself and really ask you all a question based on your personal experiences. I am 20 years old, around 5' 10" 160 lbs... a little history, I have taken the pills since I was 18 and as we know they don't enlarge on their own. I truly believe using your excericises is the only way to get there permanently. I started thinking seriously about enlargement about 2 months ago and have been pumping and jelqing with a jelq device for those 2 months and have experienced close to a half inch increase in girth, but nothing for length. Ok enough with the story my questions is, I am starting today with 8" of bone pressed length although I barely have a fat pad and close to 6" of girth, Now although I am above average and I know that I still am looking for more. And I know you all understand that. I am very dedicated when it comes to something I want and now with your site I at least have a plan. Now my question for you DLD and everyone else is and this will help me with my visualization of my goal.. What do you honestly and reasonably see my final result gain being in length and girth, given I follow everything you have laid out to a t.. Due to my body type and starting size information, and all of your experiences what is your opinion of what kind of gains I can expect and how long I can expect them in. I am asking for motivation and visualization purposes. Again sorry for making this so long, I just wanted you to see where I was coming from... Thank you again DLD and everyone else...