The Long Game: Learning with Longstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth

Would it be wise for anyone following this way of training to use a urethral thermometer, so they know the exact temperature inside?

A good description of the equipment, manufacturer recommendations would be useful.

All sounds splendid, and it's the actual heat application following a specific regimen that gets results here, not the exercise used, as I can see pretty much whatever stretch being effective, so long the pathway is followed.
 
I currently am not using ADS in my campaign. I have noticed increased strain rates but that's probably because the penis has a chance to fully return to baseline between workouts. I will see what kind of gains this run, I'll be throwing in girth next month. I could then add ADS iback next campaign to compare.

Red you could certainly use a thermometer in your urethra to see what kind of internal temperatures you're getting and try to mimic that feeling during your workouts but it would be impossible to do the kind of stretches needed with a thermometer in your urethra at the same time. I think you're correct as the type of stretch doesn't matter that much as looking as the pathway with heat is followed.

Also I use the Delta 3 mHz Ultrasound machine. I started with 1.4 w/cm² and now I'll use anywhere from 1.8-2.0 w/cm², never going over 2.0 w/cm² which I find almost unbearable in intensity after a few minutes. This has been deemed safe. I would keep the range at 1.4-2.0 w/cm² for a 3 mHz. It should be around the same for a 1 mHz machine. I believe kyrpa's goes up to 1.6 w/cm².
 
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REDZULU2003 said:
Would it be wise for anyone following this way of training to use a urethral thermometer, so they know the exact temperature inside?

A good description of the equipment, manufacturer recommendations would be useful.

All sounds splendid, and it's the actual heat application following a specific regimen that gets results here, not the exercise used, as I can see pretty much whatever stretch being effective, so long the pathway is followed.
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It woud be ideal to have urethral temperatures monitored. But in practice not possible. If someone is going to measure urethral temperatures it should be done safest with flexible thermocoupling wires coated with shrinkage tubing to make it slippery and easy to cleanse.

Second best is to run test series to learn the heat cycle process. Then it would be easier to run correctly and safe.

Easiest way to do it safe is to run it with equipment just enough intensity and not to look for speeding up the process with too powerful input with the transducer.

As longstretch already mentioned I am running the operation with 1MHz 1.6w/cm^2 , US Pro 2000 2nd edition.
Pros are that it is afforable and just about powerful enough.

Cons are that it has transducer head of 4 cm^2 which is a bit too large because it needs to be pushed against the shaft .
Another thing is the safety feature cutting the output every time the head warms above 42°C until it cools a bit.
This causes immediate drops in urethral temperature readings.

Despite the cons I am going to run the dual approach with two identical pieces fixed together. The reason is seen in the graph.
Two urethral probes were inside 6 cm separating them and we can clearly see in which direction the transducer was going.

With two transducers it is easier to have better heat distribution and over all median temperature.
I am lookin for expanding the absolute therapeutic window and upping the median temperatue from 40.6 °C to 41.5°C during.
 
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It woud be ideal to have urethral temperatures monitored. But in practice not possible. If someone is going to measure urethral temperatures it should be done safest with flexible thermocoupling wires coated with shrinkage tubing to make it slippery and easy to cleanse.

Second best is to run test series to learn the heat cycle process. Then it would be easier to run correctly and safe.

Easiest way to do it safe is to run it with equipment just enough intensity and not to look for speeding up the process with too powerful input with the transducer.

As longstretch already mentioned I am running the operation with 1MHz 1.6w/cm^2 , US Pro 2000 2nd edition.
Pros are that it is afforable and just about powerful enough.

Cons are that it has transducer head of 4 cm^2 which is a bit too large because it needs to be pushed against the shaft .
Another thing is the safety feature cutting the output every time the head warms above 42°C until it cools a bit.
This causes immediate drops in urethral temperature readings.

Despite the cons I am going to run the dual approach with two identical pieces fixed together. The reason is seen in the graph.
Two urethral probes were inside 6 cm separating them and we can clearly see in which direction the transducer was going.

With two transducers it is easier to have better heat distribution and over all median temperature.
I am lookin for expanding the absolute therapeutic window and upping the median temperatue from 40.6 °C to 41.5°C during.
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What would be better? To make two transducers taped together or something so you have a bigger ultrasound surface...

Or making two transducers tied together in opposite direction so the transducers are directed at eachother while giving ultrasounds but with space in between for dick shaft. So you can move your two transducers axially along the shaft from base to tip and maybe rotating a bit for a more deep heating distribution in the whole shaft and glans. For me with hanging the critical heating point would be the connection of the shaft with the glans... That’s the place where all the magic happens for me I think when hanging in the SiliStretcher.

So two ultrasound devices ? Check! Great idea ??
 
We need to get Boston Dynamics on this tip QUICK. I would love to have a back-flipping, cock-tugging, heat-transferring dog bot in my arsenal...

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Me personally I'm not going to invest in 2 US units. So I'll have an IR lamp and maybe even a rice sock to keep heat distributed. I keep my balls in my underwear, I know some are freaked out by heat and testicles. You can tell I lift, I lift big boy weights naturally and have no problems with testosterone.

But playing devils advocate having your penis sandwiched between 2 continuously moving transducers lubed with gel would be very difficult to accomplish. A side by side transducer would be more realistic.
 
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All sounds splendid, and it's the actual heat application following a specific regimen that gets results here, not the exercise used, as I can see pretty much whatever stretch being effective, so long the pathway is followed.
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I guess you have been on these duties that long you can see the core of it . Great, that is exactly right.

This concept should be almost completely independent of the equipment used.

There are these certain key elements to follow and the specific window to operate inside. Results are real and are already duplicated by several users.
 
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RED is certainly well educated in the penile growth department. I have put his methods into play and I have been pleasantly rewarded. As a matter of fact, my BPFSL was checked a little while ago, and it is .5" longer than when I last checked around 4 weeks ago, I believe.

This is a thread full of incredible knowledge, from some extremely knowledgeable individuals. It should be encased in glass and displayed when it is completed...
 
Thanks Kyrpa.

You're certainly pioneering this Pathway.

Heat has always been important, but you've really exposed just how vital, when, and how it should be applied.

I see the work you've pioneered, alongside longstretch is a game changer in the conventional PE world, but it will likely take awhile to catch on.

I'll be getting a US device in the months ahead.

Could you provide a site link to the device.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
Thanks Kyrpa.

You're certainly pioneering this Pathway.

Heat has always been important, but you've really exposed just how vital, when, and how it should be applied.

I see the work you've pioneered, alongside longstretch is a game changer in the conventional PE world, but it will likely take awhile to catch on.

I'll be getting a US device in the months ahead.

Could you provide a site link to the device.
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Thank you Sir I appreciate,

It was obvious the heat is needed. But the results vary between users too much and there were still too many non gainers.

It is found out that almost two decades ago there were pioneers who already figured it out that ultrasound was the way to go.
But at that time there were no affordable machines available for consumers. So they went on with the infra red.

Like so many other things in PE that was adopted as a standard and since then nobody never questioned it.
We need to have open mind and question every direction leading highgainers have lead us for two decades.
Otherwise we will be circulating in a loop with only few high gainers once in a while others suffering with no gains at all.

Other crucial thing which should be the basis of everything we do was the stress strain relations not presented in any PE forums.
This was again traced back to early 2000´s when some enthuaistic pioneers presented the load - strain curves in the first place. Both cold and heated. But the ground breaking indications were not taken seriously enough and were forgotten since. So many wasted years for many trying to force their way against the nature makes me sad.

There are still inventions to make and the community is responsible to producing those by themselves. We can´t stay still and keep believing.
We need to study and measure. If we are not getting measurable gains we should not continue with what we are doing.

The whole scene must take a step, in my opinion we are stuck in to state bodybuilding was at 50's before the invention of the Dianabol.
Since then everything has exloded with the whole industry developing in every possible aspect.
Today natural bodybuilders are getting gains early juicers had in their time of success.

If any of our recent efforts turns out to be catalyst for greater things to come, I would be really glad.

There are guys using 3MHz devices with great success but once I already have one of these 1 MHz machines I ordered one more.

This was the latest purchase:

 
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kyrpa said:
Thank you Sir I appreciate,

It was obvious the heat is needed. But the results vary between users too much and there were still too many non gainers.

It is found out that almost two decades ago there were pioneers who already figured it out that ultrasound was the way to go.
But at that time there were no affordable machines available for consumers. So they went on with the infra red.

Like so many other things in PE that was adopted as a standard and since then nobody never questioned it.
We need to have open mind and question every direction leading highgainers have lead us for two decades.
Otherwise we will be circulating in a loop with only few high gainers once in a while others suffering with no gains at all.

Other crucial thing which should be the basis of everything we do was the stress strain relations not presented in any PE forums.
This was again traced back to early 2000´s when some enthuaistic pioneers presented the load - strain curves in the first place. Both cold and heated. But the ground breaking indications were not taken seriously enough and were forgotten since. So many wasted years for many trying to force their way against the nature makes me sad.

There are still inventions to make and the community is responsible to producing those by themselves. We can´t stay still and keep believing.
We need to study and measure. If we are not getting measurable gains we should not continue with what we are doing.

The whole scene must take a step, in my opinion we are stuck in to state bodybuilding was at 50's before the invention of the Dianabol.
Since then everything has exloded with the whole industry developing in every possible aspect.
Today natural bodybuilders are getting gains early juicers had in their time of success.

If any of our recent efforts turns out to be catalyst for greater things to come, I would be really glad.

There are guys using 3MHz devices with great success but once I already have one of these 1 MHz machines I ordered one more.

This was the latest purchase:

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I partly agree with you.

That's because plenty of men gain using lots of different methods, exercises, routines, but, the turbo ignition to it, could very well be this ultrasound.

I gained from 6.6 x 5.4 erect to 8 x 7 currently and I used no ultrasound, but that doesn't mean I discount it, or would scoff my nose skyward.

So yes, I agree that this takes things further, more akin to adding a further string to the bow, but one that makes everything all the more potent.

I wouldn't dismiss the majority of what is penis enlargement at present, but certainly things become stagnant.

Do you know of these devices that are shipped via Europe or UK?
 
I was thinking about this thread today and the whole long game theory. For me I’ve always made it a lifetime commitment that way there was never a time restraint on what I was doing. Letting go of time is a very good way to see growth much quicker. When we observe time it goes very slowly but when we are able to take that out of the equation we find that we are much better able to concentrate.
 
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I was thinking about this thread today and the whole long game theory. For me I’ve always made it a lifetime commitment that way there was never a time restraint on what I was doing. Letting go of time is a very good way to see growth much quicker. When we observe time it goes very slowly but when we are able to take that out of the equation we find that we are much better able to concentrate.
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As we know there are many ways to enlarge our units. I have to say that not in million years I would adopt any lifelong approaches in anything but family and health. To be completely honest does it really sound healthy for concentrating in our dicks for decades?
 
REDZULU2003 said:
I partly agree with you.

That's because plenty of men gain using lots of different methods, exercises, routines, but, the turbo ignition to it, could very well be this ultrasound.

I gained from 6.6 x 5.4 erect to 8 x 7 currently and I used no ultrasound, but that doesn't mean I discount it, or would scoff my nose skyward.

So yes, I agree that this takes things further, more akin to adding a further string to the bow, but one that makes everything all the more potent.

I wouldn't dismiss the majority of what is penis enlargement at present, but certainly things become stagnant.

Do you know of these devices that are shipped via Europe or UK?
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Gainers do gain anyway. Non gainers do not. Majority of the present PE really do work with the former group.
What we can´t ignore is the fact that there is also the latter group. I am not saying there is a cure available but there is another possibility available at least.

I live in europe and I am waiting for the package to arrive any day now.
What I know most of these sellers found in ebay are sending to EU. Of course there are possibly some taxes to pay with customs.
 
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To be completely honest does it really sound healthy for concentrating in our dicks for decades?
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Kind of loaded question to assume it's either healthy or unhealthy. There is no difference between this and any other kind of personal development. It can be a lifelong pursuit for sure.
 
Yeah if I could've done PE for a few years and have my goal I would much rather that option than the 15 years I've been at it even with the time off. DLD gained 2 inches in 6 months. I gained 0.5 inches in 1 year doing similar if not same routine. What this way of thinking provides is a scientific approach that can work for hard gainers and more than likely allow everyone to make quicker and more sustained gains.

I'm coming back from 18 months off and was able to live my life without an obsession to this PE goal. It takes time and sacrifices sure but there shouldn't be a need any longer for a lifelong pursuit.
 
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It's only a lifelong pursuit if your methods are not ideal, I've been guilty of this. I hope others can learn from my long career for the better and not repeat the same mistakes. That's was the whole purpose of this thread and to share knowledge.

Imagine going years with very little to no gains. Then imagine finding the solution you've been seeking and making 0.5 inch gain in 3 months and that includes taking one month off. I've did some things right in a bumbling fool sort of way and alott of things wrong, that are oddly enough accepted as truth in PE community.

What does all this data really say? A 2 phase approach. The best way to maximize total gains for the newbie is to not do too much to cause tissue toughening or injury. I mean maximal gains over the PE "career", other methods will reduce overall gains or at least prolong the time it takes to achieve.

This means low level tension for lots of time. Extenders are a perfect example. I, in a bumbling fool type of way, accomplished this with vacuum hanging while being a student in college. I never hung past 8 lbs and gained an inch in 6 months. This happened after I made my first inch and was stalled for 2 years of religious PE. Extenders have been documented as reliable and effective and satisfy what a newbie needs. Low weight vacuum hanging could be another.

After this has been thoroughly milked. Around a year before diminishing returns kick in. Second phase is what me and Kyrpa are suggesting. Slightly higher tension, shorter routines. Therapeutic heat allows greater elongation and less damage as it effects the collagen. Use of decons allows for sustained growth when diminishing returns kicks in. Measuring and tracking of strain allows users feedback and if posted can be useful data for others.

This is in contrast what is usually suggested for hangers and general PE.
 
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From a research article:
In human and canine studies, 1.0-MHz has been shown to heat tissue most effectively at depths between 2.0 and 5.0 cm, with 3.0 cm being the depth where maximum heating occurs. Conversely, 3.3-MHz has been shown to be most effective at heating tissues between 1.0 and 2.5 cm
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Wouldn't a 3 MHz ultrasound device be better for this PE method because the girth of a flaccid stretched penis is so small? With a 1 MHz device and a small girth the maximum absorption depth is at the other side of the shaft.
 
In theory yes, in the real world 3 mHz has been shown to heat deeper than 2.5 cm and in Manko007's experiment they were pretty comparable. 3 mHz heated slightly faster but that's about it.
 
Would aluminum foil or some other material on the other side of the shaft block and reflect the 1MHZ ultrasound waves back and make it more effective with less heat variance? How to reflect ultrasound?
 
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I used to think so but because ultrasound is wave energy superposition may occur. That is the waves combine in a way that is either additive (constructive interference making the amplitude bigger) or or subtractive (making the amplitude smaller).

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Either of them happening should demand full contact with skin and the foil with conductive gel or water. There should be no air between as the attenuation of the waves would be too big. US can be used under the water.
 
Ahhh ok. That makes sense. I had use
Used foil on otherside of extender a few times and didn't really note any major differences as far as heating goes. So that time forward didn't botherwith it. Didn't apply constructive gel to it though.
 
You’re not obsessing over your dick for your whole life you’re making a commitment to keep yourself in the best sexual health through different PE practices. If families important to you than your penis should be just as important to you and it should be healthy for your whole life for children and your wife. It’s just like keeping yourself in good shape, it’s not an obsession, it’s a healthy thing to do.
 
I understand what you are saying DLD. But for hard gainers like me using the old school approach (no rest, 3+ hour long daily sessions, etc etc) would guarantee a life long sentence, instead of a few years, to reach one's goals. If you take a maintenance kegel and maybe even jelq routine for penile health out of the equation. What I'm saying is hopefully with a more efficient strategy like I believe this logical and more scientific approach offers, end goals will be reached in a few years of consistent action, with some of that time just being allotted to rest. Working smarter not harder with better results for many. Because it's more efficient and allows for rest, less weights or force will be needed hence less chance for injury and further tissue stiffening.

I don't think what we have is the end all be all as it's still evolving but the results... well the results speak for themselves. With more people adopting this approach and recording it we will be able to come up with more reliable systems and each individual will be able to more properly track their progress and learn to make their own adjustments.

As I've said I really think the frequent measurement and tracking strain is where this shines, the heat allows for more strain and the decon allows the tissue to be stained by lower loads once coming back. I used to think measuring frequently was bad for morale but now I think like a scientist. I learned that from fitness. I used to think only measure your weight once a week when trying to cut so you don't get disheartened. But weight fluctuates from day to day. I've learned to track it daily and take the weekly average. Same for PE. When I first started seeing the increase between pre and post workouts I was taking aback. When I saw it between exercises I was mind blown. How did I not know this all this time?!

Some earlier pioneers like xeno I believe was doing just this but he didn't expressly say it, however he came to find diminishing returns at around 12 days. I believe BPSFL was how he was tracking this. I don't know if he was taking strain levels which is on another level. He was using therapeutic heat and decons. He has documented proof of gains. However his paradigm was to cause microtears so some of his methods were extreme. The goal was intense methods to cause inflammation then use ADS and rest. I know think most of us are operating at fibroblast mediated proliferation, especially kyrpa and now me as we are both not getting an inflammation response or seeking fatigue.
 
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I understand what you are saying DLD. But for hard gainers like me using the old school approach (no rest, 3+ hour long daily sessions, etc etc) would guarantee a life long sentence, instead of a few years, to reach one's goals. If you take a maintenance kegel and maybe even jelq routine for penile health out of the equation. What I'm saying is hopefully with a more efficient strategy like I believe this logical and more scientific approach offers, end goals will be reached in a few years of consistent action, with some of that time just being allotted to rest. Working smarter not harder with better results for many. Because it's more efficient and allows for rest, less weights or force will be needed hence less chance for injury and further tissue stiffening.

I don't think what we have is the end all be all as it's still evolving but the results... well the results speak for themselves. With more people adopting this approach and recording it we will be able to come up with more reliable systems and each individual will be able to more properly track their progress and learn to make their own adjustments.

As I've said I really think the frequent measurement and tracking strain is where this shines, the heat allows for more strain and the decon allows the tissue to be stained by lower loads once coming back. I used to think measuring frequently was bad for morale but now I think like a scientist. I learned that from fitness. I used to think only measure your weight once a week when trying to cut so you don't get disheartened. But weight fluctuates from day to day. I've learned to track it daily and take the weekly average. Same for PE. When I first started seeing the increase between pre and post workouts I was taking aback. When I saw it between exercises I was mind blown. How did I not know this all this time?!

Some earlier pioneers like xeno I believe was doing just this but he didn't expressly say it, however he came to find diminishing returns at around 12 days. I believe BPSFL was how he was tracking this. I don't know if he was taking strain levels which is on another level. He was using therapeutic heat and decons. He has documented proof of gains. However his paradigm was to cause microtears so some of his methods were extreme. The goal was intense methods to cause inflammation then use ADS and rest. I know think most of us are operating at fibroblast mediated proliferation, especially kyrpa and now me as we are both not getting an inflammation response or seeking fatigue.
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My brother you do not want to be doing Full out PE for the rest of your life LOL that’s not what I meant. What I meant was once you meet your goals it’s very important to keep a maintenance routine in place to make sure you’re in peak sexual health. This can consist of one work out a week and keeping up with Kegel exercises.
 
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My brother you do not want to be doing Full out PE for the rest of your life LOL that’s not what I meant. What I meant was once you meet your goals it’s very important to keep a maintenance routine in place to make sure you’re in peak sexual health. This can consist of one work out a week and keeping up with Kegel exercises.
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This here is all about meeting the goals. Which are otherwise unreachable for some brother.
To make the unhealthy desire for bigger unit go away in just few years. I think there are already knowledge available what comes after. If we still keep needing bigger one after it is already achieved then mental care professionals should step in. Same goes if we are never reaching the goals. In a one way or another the obsession should end brother.

After then we are happily welcoming the penile health maintenance tips.
 
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kyrpa said:
This here is all about meeting the goals. Which are otherwise unreachable for some brother.
To make the unhealthy desire for bigger unit go away in just few years. I think there are already knowledge available what comes after. If we still keep needing bigger one after it is already achieved then mental care professionals should step in. Same goes if we are never reaching the goals. In a one way or another the obsession should end brother.

After then we are happily welcoming the penile health maintenance tips.
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Exactly correct! Once you’ve reached your goals you’re no longer in active PE. Once you have reached your goals you would move into a maintenance routine that would maintain good blood flow and other health issues that come as we grow older. I have made my goals long ago, today I simply maintain. The only exception is when I’m creating new exercises or tools, in those cases I’m going full out. But that’s my job to do so I don’t expect other people to try to get bigger and be on their goal. I’ve met my goals now I just maintain them.
 
Still under experimentation. I think kyrpa is right with girth is elongation of the circumferential plane so these principles can be suited for girth. So keeping the pre condition stretch (extender or other stress relaxation set) you'd need a set to apply heat and then some sets to do some work. We both settled on ending with cyclical pumping. He's made a device to squish the penis from head to base with weak erection using caulk gun and to limit length elongation by inserting a rolled up sock in cylinder during some of his pumping sets so girth expansion is favored. That's very interesting to me and will be trying in future.

You can see my last workout and some of my thoughts and what I chose to experiment with. It's my first real girth session in 2 years. So far that was intense enough for me but will be looking to add heat my first pumping session using hot water when privacy allows. I'm doing this more to convert BPSFL to BPEL but this should give good data for when pursuing only girth goals.

 
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@kyrpa @longstretch how would you incorporate girth workouts in this routine? I currently use the bathmate in the mornings 3-4x a week on DLD’s SSJ 5x5x3
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There is a guy already running 4on 3 off routine. 1 to 3 days are for length only. Fourth day for girth. I think he is getting some results as well.
I did run one period (P1) with mixed length and girth routine. It was still IPR based routine where the first two days were the intense stretching with US heat type of days. Third day was length orientated but mainly ADS and jelqing. Days four and five girth only.
I got really decent results with it but it was really exhausting and fatiguing for the dick. EQ dropped significantly during workout days and the 2 day rest was not enough for me.

For now I don´t use these micro cycles anymore and the girth work starts when the length gains with BPFSL start to diminish.
Therefor I have been experimenting with girth workouts where the longitudinal elongation and the tissue stress caused by the workout should be minimized.

Restricting length in the vacuum cylinder allows much greater radial expansion and we can aim the inner tunica layer and the tunica of the CS much more effective way. By compressing the shaft longitudinally when clamped the outer layer and Buck´s fascia enveloping the package are not restricting radial expansion that much and with greater inner pressure the inner layer expand even more.

Still experimental but it is showing positive signs already. With the girth I am not taking the traditional way either so to speak.
What I am trying to accomplish is to adapt the concept found impressively effective with length to be used for girth also.
 
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There is a guy already running 4on 3 off routine. 1 to 3 days are for length only. Fourth day for girth. I think he is getting some results as well.
I did run one period (P1) with mixed length and girth routine. It was still IPR based routine where the first two days were the intense stretching with US heat type of days. Third day was length orientated but mainly ADS and jelqing. Days four and five girth only.
I got really decent results with it but it was really exhausting and fatiguing for the dick. EQ dropped significantly during workout days and the 2 day rest was not enough for me.

For now I don´t use these micro cycles anymore and the girth work starts when the length gains with BFSL start to diminish.
Therefor I have been experimenting with girth workouts where the longitudinal elongation and the tissue stress caused by the workout should be minimized.

Restricting length in the vacuum cylinder allows much greater radial expansion and we can aim the inner tunica layer and the tunica of the CS much more effective way. By compressing the shaft longitudinally when clamped the outer layer and Buck´s fascia enveloping the package are not restricting radial expansion that much and with greater inner pressure the inner layer expand even more.

Still experimental but it is showing positive signs already. With the girth I am not taking the traditional way either so to speak.
What I am trying to accomplish is to adapt the concept found impressively effective with length to be used for girth also.
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Please try the SRT 5×5×3, it is simply incredible ??
 
Kyrpa while I have your attention can you tell me about what modifications if any you made to your caulk gun for the Squisher? What did you use for straps, I'm thinking nylon or velcro. I am really excited to try this! I don't like the slow squash jelq because it always felt weird to me when penis bent with erection. With your invention it takes care if that and I can see it beautifully strainingthe radial (what I've been calling circumferential) plane. I think once I'm conditioned for it that with the cock coffin or even TTr will allow girth gains to really take off. Also how are you getting that sock back out of the tube?
 
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Kyrpa while I have your attention can you tell me about what medications if any you made to your caulk gun for the Squisher? What did you use for straps, I'm thinking nylon or velcro. I am really excited to try this! I don't like the slow squash jelq because it always felt weird to me when penis bent with erection. With your invention it takes care if that and I can see it beautifully strainingthe radial (what I've been calling circumferential) plane. I think once I'm conditioned for it that with the cock coffin or even TTr will allow girth gains to really take off. Also how are you getting that sock back out of the tube?
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Well with a better time I will give more detailled info but here is some tips.
To choose the right caulk gun you need to find one with biggest available opening fork at the tip.
The fork needs some cutting to fit properly between two clamps if you can´t find one with a completely flat ending.

Two clamps are fixed together with bolts using spacers between. Clamps that I use had holes in the handle. The other hole for second bolt needs to be drilled through.

Secondly if you can find one with braces being above the centerline still having enough room for ultrasound between them at the dorsal side, it would be the best. that way the braces are in the perfect position blocking any upwards bending and allowin the US to be applied dorsally.
Applied ventrally these metal braces should reflect some of the waves back if coming from certarin directions.

If you use strap made of polyester webbing you can apply US through it when soaked in conductive gel.
Velcro suits fine at the base and to hold the gland cushion in the position.

Similar models to this linked here is what I am talking about.
If there is model available constructed this way but having flat ending with a biggest available opening that would be perfect.

I have one looking like this and the opening fork needed some cutting to flatten those forks.
Also it needed to open the back side of the ending ring to able the clamp hinge to slip between the braces.

Mine has bigger opening and I believe there are plenty of models fitting the describtion if digging deep enough.


This one has perfect placement for the braces

This one with bigger opening

When used I have clamps "upside down" and therefor I can introduce Squisher from dorsal side.
When compressed CC´s are pushed against the braces when expanded enough and the ventral side keep expanding without restrictions.
With a girth enough the upwards folding is prevented by the placement of the braces alone . For slimmer shafts it is better to secure it with strap.
It is unlikely that the shaft folds downwards but for the safety it is better to use one strap at the center to prevent it from accidentally happening.

Socks out of it...If not completely stuck you just use the invention certain Newton once introduced. If you keep slamming the tube opening downwards against your palm or whatever it gets moving outwards. If not use some hook made of anything available :)
 
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Ahh I understand it so much better now. So you're using spacers between clamps so you can wedge the lip of the caulk gun between them! Genius!

Can you snap pics of the clamps so I can see the bolts? I need to make a run to home depot for more clamps anyway so I'll go take a look at what they offer as far as caulk guns. Might try some gripper material and neoprene for the padding.
 
longstretch said:
Ahh I understand it so much better now. So you're using spacers between clamps so you can wedge the lip of the caulk gun between them! Genius!

Can you snap pics of the clamps so I can see the bolts? I need to make a run to home depot for more clamps anyway so I'll go take a look at what they offer as far as caulk guns. Might try some gripper material and neoprene for the padding.
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When I am back home in few days I will. Not genius but simple ground level engineering ;)
 
longstretch said:
I don't like the slow squash jelq because it always felt weird to me when penis bent with erection.
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I do like them and did them and similar exercises a lot while P1 and P2. Thats why I made a device to bring them to another level with US heat.
I want to emphazise this being highly experimental at this stage but it looks like really promising.
 
Yes. That kind of protocolshould produce gains.
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Did you give it a shot yet my brother?
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I have explored it a bit. That to me looks like a good girth routine. I have been doing very similar things during P1 and P2 with decent results.

Right now to me avoiding the dorsal tunica directed longitudinal stretch component coming from the bending of the SSJ suites better.
 
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kyrpa said:
Yes. That kind of protocolshould produce gains.

I have explored it a bit. That to me looks like a good girth routine. I have been doing very similar things during P1 and P2 with decent results.

Right now to me avoiding the dorsal tunica directed longitudinal stretch component coming from the bending of the SSJ suites better.
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Thanks for your response my brother I’m glad things are working out.
 
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