Starting again after injury

[Jeezthatswild]

In reality, with the nitric oxide booster, your penis is merely being forced to push more blood into either a collapsed portion of the corpus cavernosa or fill the blood into the damaged chamber and use only the fascias (the wall lining) in place of the stronger ligamentary tissues. It's like your knee has no connective ligaments left and you're depending on the surrounding muscles to hold the knee in place during movements.


This is where you must aware that the healing process must combine with the strengthening of the surround tissues. Ligamentary tissues, the tougher portion of the penis, must heal properly while the supportive tissues act as a temporary means. Do not over push the tissues or you'll have stronger tissues than the ligamentary tissues. A best description is the bicycle inner tube is doing all the supporting while the external tire's gaping hole hasn't been repaired with strong resins or patches. The more you force the air into the inner tube to compensate, the more likely the inner tube will have a secondary blow out. Worst, the inner tube becomes unstable, causing the entire wheel to bend and bounce the wrong way. In this case, your penis grows and bends in the wrong direction.


Yes, the other forums actually followed the Peyronie's method achieved since 20 years ago, by isolating the tissues into a directional growth, while promoting a low tension force splint, which is the traction device, such as your PeniMaster Pro. We'll have more info on that later.


Yes it can. But it's not about overstretching. It's about stabilizing while stretching at a much lower traction force than most routines.


Correct. This is due to scarring and plagues that already formed. However, your case is the breakage or lack of supportive longitudinal tissues (the tissues that runs all along the entire penis that are a part of the ridge ballooned structure of the corpus cavernosa and spongiosum. General term labeled it as the tunica albuginea, but there's more components surrounding the tunica albuginea than a simple structure. We'll leave anatomy lessons for the later discussions as we touch upon them.

Before any routines, make sure to warm your tissues. Always! The warmer the tissues, the better the tissues will be receptive to correction. If you have a heating device such as a space warmer, use it for your routine. If you have a red light therapy device, use it to achieve 30 J/cm^2 daily before or after your routine.

First thing first, we need to address the collapsed mid section of the tunica albuginea. This is definitely due to over usage of the pump, and over stressing the penis using the extender right after or in combination. The tissues will heal, but it may take and unknown amount of time since we don't know the damages at the moment. You can use the PeniMaster Pro (PMP) to stabilize the entire structure during healing. Look at the SRT bundled stretches as a warm up routine. There's no need to use aggressive traction force. Merely light to moderate stretching is more than enough to get the tissues warmed up. DLD came up with the videos with the DLD Blaster. Using this allows you to prime and stress the required tissues just enough to trigger repairs. Once again, DO NOT USE AGGRESSIVE FORCE. Light to moderate only.

So, what's light traction force. Get a nice erection. Grab your penis at the base of the glans and pull out gently until you feel a light tug from the base of the penis to the very point of the hold. This mirrors the jelqing tugs during masturbation. What is moderate? Same approach, but the tug has a sensation as if your lady is giving you a blow job, while milking you aggressively. You feel that tug at the base of your penis with a slight pull harder than the normal jelq. There should only be a slight discomfort all over the penis without any feeling of pain. A warning of course, if you're one of those who have high pain tolerance, you can measure the pull by using a fish scale (SiliScale - Digital Tension Scale for Penis Stretchers) roughly at 3lbs max. MAX!!

During the light to moderate bundle stretching, do add in light contortional twists, or rotary crank. Look for rotary crank example instruction in both video and description formate under the SRT routines. Make sure to go easy but max out the turns. This helps to loose the tissues laterally to maximize the corrective method using the PMP. The routines should not be more than 30 minutes. Limit the amount of stresses.

At the end, use the PMP with the max traction force setting not more than 800g. If you think you can grow your penis and repair it faster by going higher, you will destroy your penis. Your total time using the PMP should be limited to 4 continuous hours with a max of 8 hour total. You can break down however many sessions in hour blocks you want. During repair, your penis will indeed lengthen and grow. Don't think that it don't. It will. This is also to prevent any scar/plague formation.

Can i do these bundled stretches while semi erect? I can’t get like a solid erection continuously while playing with my dick if im not turned on Sexually if you know what I mean. Can i stretch the penis/help it by manual flaccid/semi stretching? Couldn’t i do rotary crank while flaccid and still stretch the tissue?

 

[Jeezthatswild]

I will also let you know when i receive the stretch and continue to report, I will be going slow and steady

 

[oldandlively]

Can i do these bundled stretches while semi erect? I can’t get like a solid erection continuously while playing with my dick if im not turned on Sexually if you know what I mean.

I understand completely. You can do bundled stretches flaccid, semi-erected, and erected. We're focusing on length and not girth. Erected stretches are to promote a equal stretch and expansion at the same time. Flaccid and semi-erected allows you to refocus everything or a majority of the efforts to length.

Can i stretch the penis/help it by manual flaccid/semi stretching?

Yes, you can indeed. For me, I do most of my stretches in flaccid status.

Couldn’t i do rotary crank while flaccid and still stretch the tissue?

When doing rotary cranks, my suggestion is to always do it in flaccid. Flaccid yields the greatest results as the rotary can provide highest contortional rotation to stretch out the tissues laterally. Semi-erected and erected and can be quite painful.

 

[Jeezthatswild]

I understand completely. You can do bundled stretches flaccid, semi-erected, and erected. We're focusing on length and not girth. Erected stretches are to promote a equal stretch and expansion at the same time. Flaccid and semi-erected allows you to refocus everything or a majority of the efforts to length.


Yes, you can indeed. For me, I do most of my stretches in flaccid status.


When doing rotary cranks, my suggestion is to always do it in flaccid. Flaccid yields the greatest results as the rotary can provide highest contortional rotation to stretch out the tissues laterally. Semi-erected and erected and can be quite painful.

“So, what's light traction force. Get a nice erection. Grab your penis at the base of the glans and pull out gently until you feel a light tug from the base of the penis to the very point of the hold. This mirrors the jelqing tugs during masturbation. What is moderate?”

So with this in my routine, I would have to get erected during my session to do this for repair?

 

[oldandlively]

“So, what's light traction force. Get a nice erection. Grab your penis at the base of the glans and pull out gently until you feel a light tug from the base of the penis to the very point of the hold. This mirrors the jelqing tugs during masturbation. What is moderate?”

So with this in my routine, I would have to get erected during my session to do this for repair?

No. You don't have to be erected. It's merely a comparison of pulling force for your flaccid traction to your feelings when you are erected.

 

[Jeezthatswild]

By the way, as for the RestorEx, think about the "clamping" mechanism. Yeah. Plenty of those who used it tossed it out pretty fast. Doctors who prescribed it was "paid" to promote it. Overall, it's nothing but a joke.

Should I buy a cock ring to keep the tissue all the way stretched while erected? I was doing a session where I had a good erection, and then when i kegel hard its as if that tiny portion thats indented inflates, and there is a slight ache as if it is indeed inflating. A tight squeeze of my penis erected, both of the chambers are evenly engorged, instead of having the indents. Should I be doing length exercises rather then girth?

 

[oldandlively]

Should I buy a cock ring to keep the tissue all the way stretched while erected?

Only if you believe you need one. Most of my cock rings are old cut up penis sleeves. I grew out of my cock rings. I also pair up with Theraband and flexible bandages for comforts as well. It's practically elongation wrap and cock ring in one.

I was doing a session where I had a good erection, and then when i kegel hard its as if that tiny portion thats indented inflates, and there is a slight ache as if it is indeed inflating.

That's great. But be careful as the indentation expands, it can also rupture. Unless your skin layers (fascias) are strong, and your corpus cavernosa is toughen again from the old injury, don't over do it.

A tight squeeze of my penis erected, both of the chambers are evenly engorged, instead of having the indents. Should I be doing length exercises rather then girth?

When you squeeze while your penis is erected, it's actually both length and girth exercises. Length exercises strengthen your tunica, while girth exercises strengthen your tissue walls. The question to you is, what do you want to do?

If you want to focus on length, dedicated more time to length routines but don't ignore the girth. 70% or even 80% on length, and 30% or 20% on girth. We can help you out with the routine approach.

Since you have so much info on this thread, I'm transfering it to the Progress and Routine so we don't lose it. We can keep piling onto this thread as your personal log. Hope you don't mind.

 

[Jeezthatswild]

Only if you believe you need one. Most of my cock rings are old cut up penis sleeves. I grew out of my cock rings. I also pair up with Theraband and flexible bandages for comforts as well. It's practically elongation wrap and cock ring in one.

That's great. But be careful as the indentation expands, it can also rupture. Unless your skin layers (fascias) are strong, and your corpus cavernosa is toughen again from the old injury, don't over do it.


When you squeeze while your penis is erected, it's actually both length and girth exercises. Length exercises strengthen your tunica, while girth exercises strengthen your tissue walls. The question to you is, what do you want to do?

If you want to focus on length, dedicated more time to length routines but don't ignore the girth. 70% or even 80% on length, and 30% or 20% on girth. We can help you out with the routine approach.

Since you have so much info on this thread, I'm transfering it to the Progress and Routine so we don't lose it. We can keep piling onto this thread as your personal log. Hope you don't mind.

Yeah i have no problem with that. So girth exercises strengthen my tissue walls, as in where it is indented at? So more and more girth centered focus would later expand the tissue walls to no longer perceive the indent? I believe i do have some scar tissue as I have a grain of rice size nodule ( but its a circle ) but they are not at the indent sites as far as I can tell. My penis is more on the longer side at about 7.5 bpel but my girth is lacking. I want length and girth, but i feel having a girthier cock at the point im at now may be better. I liked the feeling of my cock evenly expanded all the way, and thats ultimately what I desire to be the norm, but that was being really horny and kegelling. But ultimately I want to start with whatever may be best.

 

[oldandlively]

So girth exercises strengthen my tissue walls, as in where it is indented at?

That is correct. My suggestion is to do an isolate downward jelq method. What is it? It's quite simple. Get partially erected, no need to be fully erected. Gently grip the base of the penis to reduce the amount of blood leaving the penis with one hand, and use the other hand to jelq using your index-thumb in an OK grip. By jelqing downwards, you're using gravity to assist with the inflation of the penis equally. Simply using gentle glides allows you to safety balloon the penis slighly past the normal internal pressure when you are fully erected. If you feel confident, you can do this while being erected. This will push the internal pressure past 1.5inHg, helping the expansion more equally across the entire penis, reducing any possible bulges from forming.

So more and more girth centered focus would later expand the tissue walls to no longer perceive the indent?

Corret. As you increase the girth, you also reinforce the soft tissue layers inside the penis over time. Remember not to go crazy with the pressure. Gentle pressure is all you need when you jelq downwards. When pumping, get a natural erection as much as you can when you engage negative pressure. But do not go too high on negative pressure. As we discussed, the starting point is -5inHg.

I believe i do have some scar tissue as I have a grain of rice size nodule ( but its a circle ) but they are not at the indent sites as far as I can tell.

The circular nodule is your harden blood vessel possibly from possible too hard of a pumping in the earlier days, or even from the injury. If you massage it with warm compress and it goes away, it means it's an overly expanded arties. The trick prevent it from expanding during PE is to wrap it with an expandable bandage or plastic film like the Theraband (or similiar materials). By wrapping it gently, you still allow blood flow but at the same, you're creating a compression to minimize expansion. This is done quite a bit with those who have expanding veins and arteries throughout the body.

My penis is more on the longer side at about 7.5 bpel but my girth is lacking. I want length and girth, but i feel having a girthier cock at the point im at now may be better. I liked the feeling of my cock evenly expanded all the way, and thats ultimately what I desire to be the norm, but that was being really horny and kegelling. But ultimately I want to start with whatever may be best.

Ladies love their girth. I can truly tell the way my wife clung hard onto the bedsheet and pillows with her toes curling now with a larger girth than length. Your length is perfect for now. But a healthy girth is definitely around 6in. We can focus on a girth routine if you like. Let me know what you have plan in terms of tools for PE. I know you have a Bathmate, and we definitely need a method to modify it properly to measure the pressure. You have an extender, and we can use that to our advantage. If you don't want to modify the Bathmate, you have to get a system with a gauge to monitor and pump properly. Same with the extender since you have to measure the traction force offered by the unit at each extension point.

Okay, let's get into the girth rountine for now and let us know what you plan on doing with the pump unit.

Routine:
We will modify the 5x5x3 to a safety level of 2 minutes of pumping at lower pressure (until you feel that light expansion when you are fully erected inside the Bathmate. 5 minutes with the SSJ slight pressure only, keeping the penis as straight as you can during the jelq, and downward jelq a light pressure for 5 minutes.

Total sets is up to you. My suggestion is to give a 4 sets total routine for now throughout an entire week. You can increase it to 5 or even 7 sets later.

It will be very hard, but put on your extender right after the pumping. Why? While your tissues are primed for recovery, using the extender helps to place all the tissues into proper alignment during healing. DO NOT USE MORE than 1kg of traction force. Wear as long as you can. Keep the penile shaft straight and at and under 1kg. If you can't, wrap the penis up, and find a soft but rigid stick to wrap with, keeping the penis in a splint while being elongated.

 

[oldandlively]

Can i do these bundled stretches while semi erect? I can’t get like a solid erection continuously while playing with my dick if im not turned on Sexually if you know what I mean.

Defintely. That's why I mentioned semi erected. But when under the negative pressure inside the pump, do your very best to get it up. This is why it's so critical to have a gauge because we do not want to have high negative pressure while you're partially erected. This is very dangerous.

Can i stretch the penis/help it by manual flaccid/semi stretching?

Definitely. During stretching, flaccid is recommended. Jelqing is different. You can do it partially erected, or you can do it fully erected. It's about bringing in as much blood as you can while working on the jelq. This is to address those with ED and without ED.

Couldn’t i do rotary crank while flaccid and still stretch the tissue?

Good heaven, make sure to do it while flaccid. Rotary cranks and rotational twists will kill your penis if you're erected or semi-erected. I tried, and trust me, I screamed. It was for testing purposes, and that was the first and last time.

 

[DLD]

It's also important that you do kegels when pumping for more blood to the penis

 

[Jeezthatswild]

Defintely. That's why I mentioned semi erected. But when under the negative pressure inside the pump, do your very best to get it up. This is why it's so critical to have a gauge because we do not want to have high negative pressure while you're partially erected. This is very dangerous.


Definitely. During stretching, flaccid is recommended. Jelqing is different. You can do it partially erected, or you can do it fully erected. It's about bringing in as much blood as you can while working on the jelq. This is to address those with ED and without ED.


Good heaven, make sure to do it while flaccid. Rotary cranks and rotational twists will kill your penis if you're erected or semi-erected. I tried, and trust me, I screamed. It was for testing purposes, and that was the first and last time.

The ending made me go back in time when I was like 17 and push down on my erection and heard it crack and i got scared lol now my erection hangs lower so i dont even know if thats possible since my erections/semi erections have been in a forced down position for a couple of years now

 

[oldandlively]

As we age, we can't keep that upwards pointing erection like a flag pole any more. What we truly look for is solid erections. Solid as in strong and hard. It doesn't matter if it points up, down, or straight out. Just as long it's strong, solid, and doesn't drop in the middle of the fun. My wife would smile and tease me if I suddenly loss my erection because my legs were too wobbly from the day's exercise, or when it was too cold and I can't maintain since all the blood wants to protect my organs, or worst, when we try to do some erotic positions and I loss all my strength, and my blood pressure drops. Sheesh. Being old can be troublesome.

 

[DLD]

"Sheesh. Being old can be troublesome."

Big time I've noticed so many changes in just 5 years. I'm getting old and the problems need to be addressed with exercise, pe and my diet. I think i will start a minimum pe routine to deal with erections. Weight training and jogging for my weakness. Diet is also very important to all of this.