Hello!

I have realized that if i'm as erect as i can be, my penis points upwards enough to make it feel like i am negatively bending my penis downward
to get in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], this leads to a lot of water dripping out of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] while i put it on.

What i then have realized is that if i go down to a more bendable form of erection with zero dripping, the penis looks much bigger visually when i pump it up.

Does this have anything to do with the water covering my penis properly? Does the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] work more effectively with water covering the whole penis?
Or is it just a faulse image? It feels like it can't be a faulse image since the measuring gauge is static, and i can see that my penis is more wider
by looking at this.

Thanks! :)
I haven't used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] a lot, so there is still things to discover ;)
 
You should have as much water in the chamber as possible, and certainly enough to cover the penis. The fast that water is not prone to compression (unlike air) is what makes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] so effective in the first place.

So that may be why you are getting more expansion, or it could simply be that your penis is more elastic when you are in a more flaccid state. I do get more expansion when I'm erect though, so I'm not sure if you are the same or not.
 
Yes, you need to keep water covering the penis. That's the point of water pumping. I have a pretty high erection angle too. I stand with one foot in the bathtub and one foot on the floor, straddling the bathtub so I can get a wide stance, then bend over so that my penis is pointing nearly straight down. That keeps the water in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] tube very effectively.
 
seven_wants_ten;699845 said:
or it could simply be that your penis is more elastic when you are in a more flaccid state. I do get more expansion when I'm erect though, so I'm not sure if you are the same or not.

Interesting thought, can anyone apply to this theory? :)
 
FireDragonLeo;699850 said:
And yes the water gives an optical illusion that makes your penis look bigger. I let that inspire my imagination!

lol, they should make the tube out of a wide angle lens, it would look like a fucking python every time! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;699921 said:
lol, they should make the tube out of a wide angle lens, it would look like a fucking python every time! :)

How do you even make sure you are getting expansion or getting an effective workout with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] if all you see is optical illusion? x)
Anything to look for?
 
habban;699979 said:
How do you even make sure you are getting expansion or getting an effective workout with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] if all you see is optical illusion? x)
Anything to look for?

After each session you should measure girth for temporary gains. With every session you should see at least 1/4" in expansion, some see up to an inch. This is how you tell what is real.
 
doublelongdaddy;700010 said:
After each session you should measure girth for temporary gains. With every session you should see at least 1/4" in expansion, some see up to an inch. This is how you tell what is real.

Just to add onto this... I often don't see much if any expansion after my first set in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I do consider it my warmup, although it still gets pretty intense, however the 2nd and 3rd sets (and the clamping in between!) are what really give me expansion.

I'm really just saying don't be discouraged if you come out after 5 minutes and don't see much change. Keep at it, and experiment to see what works best for you, be it high intensity, long duration, etc.
 
doublelongdaddy;700010 said:
After each session you should measure girth for temporary gains. With every session you should see at least 1/4" in expansion, some see up to an inch. This is how you tell what is real.

Thanks. I haven't seen much expansion yet, maybe my intensity is too low. :)
 
habban;700083 said:
Thanks. I haven't seen much expansion yet, maybe my intensity is too low. :)

Up the intensity until you see temporary gains beyond your normal size. Temporary gains are what create permanent ones.
 
doublelongdaddy;700129 said:
Up the intensity until you see temporary gains beyond your normal size. Temporary gains are what create permanent ones.

I see, i just thought temporary gains was always just due to fluid retention x)

I want to increase intensisty but i don't know if i'm satisfied with my EQ at the moment to do that.
It feels like i don't have as much as resistance at the base when i bend my benis downward for an example.
I was used to my penis being hard to bend down, as it was resistent to that. Now it can bend more and that makes the overall feeling more squishy, and i take this as bad EQ, but i don't know, should i?
Also i have to come close to PONR a few times to even reach my maximum size, it's like it doesn't get erect as fast as i would like it to? And when i'm erect i get to the PONR too easy, and if i let go for a while the erection
subsides too fast. Feels like bad EQ. I have a hard time getting tremendous EQ again :/
 
habban;700147 said:
Yep, maybe i should do more than i think! Can someone give me a really good kegel routine?

The Kegel routine in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] is going to be the best starting KEGEL routine.

PC Muscle Fitness

100 quick Kegel squeezes

50 of the following:
Squeeze your PC muscle as hard as you can, hold for 5 seconds then slowly release for 2 seconds. When you have finished the 50 your PC muscle will be screaming. This is a good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words]. Now to finish the exercise start squeezing and hold for 1 minute, if you get tired squeeze harder until the minute is complete.
PC Muscle Fitness/Kegels
This is an important part of your workout.
This routine can be done anywhere. The benefits of doing these are a huge part of your growth process. A mature, developed PC muscle will be paramount to future gains and penile health.

What is a kegel?
A kegel is the name of a pelvic floor exercise, named after Dr. Kegel who discovered the exercise. These muscles are attached to the pelvic bone and act like a hammock, holding in your pelvic organs. To feel this muscle movement simply stop and start the flow of urine. This isolation of the PC muscle is a kegel.

Why would I want to do kegel exercises?

• Stronger Erections
• Longer Erections due to blood hold capacity
• Larger head size
• Further ejaculatory Distance
• Sexual enjoyment is enhanced for both partners
• It can prevent prolapsed of pelvic organs
• It can help prevent leaking urine when you sneeze or cough
 
doublelongdaddy;700193 said:
The Kegel routine in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] is going to be the best starting KEGEL routine.

PC Muscle Fitness

100 quick Kegel squeezes

50 of the following:
Squeeze your PC muscle as hard as you can, hold for 5 seconds then slowly release for 2 seconds. When you have finished the 50 your PC muscle will be screaming. This is a good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words]. Now to finish the exercise start squeezing and hold for 1 minute, if you get tired squeeze harder until the minute is complete.
PC Muscle Fitness/Kegels
This is an important part of your workout.
This routine can be done anywhere. The benefits of doing these are a huge part of your growth process. A mature, developed PC muscle will be paramount to future gains and penile health.

What is a kegel?
A kegel is the name of a pelvic floor exercise, named after Dr. Kegel who discovered the exercise. These muscles are attached to the pelvic bone and act like a hammock, holding in your pelvic organs. To feel this muscle movement simply stop and start the flow of urine. This isolation of the PC muscle is a kegel.

Why would I want to do kegel exercises?

• Stronger Erections
• Longer Erections due to blood hold capacity
• Larger head size
• Further ejaculatory Distance
• Sexual enjoyment is enhanced for both partners
• It can prevent prolapsed of pelvic organs
• It can help prevent leaking urine when you sneeze or cough

Have been doing kegels now and then in the elapse of 2 years almost, i don't know if i'm considered a beginner.
But i guess i could do that routine for a while anyway :)

Thank you! ;)
 
habban;700230 said:
Have been doing kegels now and then in the elapse of 2 years almost, i don't know if i'm considered a beginner.
But i guess i could do that routine for a while anyway :)

Thank you! ;)

It is a solid daily routine. Of course you can go more, I mean I go all day, doing kegels subconsciously.
 
I would highly suggest adding "weight" to your kegels. Get erect, and use your hand to hold your penis against your belly (or down in the opposite direction) and kegels to resist against it.

It's just like any other muscle, and needs progressive overload to get stronger. Imagine what would happen if you just flexed your bicep a few hundred times per day, with no resistance. At first you might experience minor strength increase, but you would quickly plateau.

There's even a very old video of Peter North training this way...laying on his back and putting a magazine over his dick as resistance.
 
seven_wants_ten;700256 said:
I would highly suggest adding "weight" to your kegels. Get erect, and use your hand to hold your penis against your belly (or down in the opposite direction) and kegels to resist against it.

It's just like any other muscle, and needs progressive overload to get stronger. Imagine what would happen if you just flexed your bicep a few hundred times per day, with no resistance. At first you might experience minor strength increase, but you would quickly plateau.

There's even a very old video of Peter North training this way...laying on his back and putting a magazine over his dick as resistance.

Yeah :) Will it make a difference whether you push the penis towards belly or opposite? You mentioned you could do both ways, does it have different effects?
 
doublelongdaddy;700251 said:
It is a solid daily routine. Of course you can go more, I mean I go all day, doing kegels subconsciously.

I just thought too many kegels could make your pelvic floor unbalanced and cause spasms which will lead to ejaculation faster when you thrust and have sex.
I can reach ejaculation pretty fast, and has always been like that. I control it if i have to by doing a strong kegel at the PONR to keep going afterwards if i have sex with anyone. But my libido decreases drastically, also the sensation.
Stop and start is not hard to do either. But would be nice to get a good erection but still not close to PONR.
As fast as i get fully erect by stimulation, i am next to the PONR, pretty annoying. And nowadays, if i am close to PONR i'm not even fully erect to my potential, have to edge like this for a while first to fill my chambers properly.
 
For some people, kegals at the PONR can induce ejaculation. But kegals can still help you, but you need to build some consciousness around your own personal pelvic floor function. I suggest that you do kegals, but make sure set aside some kegal to to "experiment" with your pelvic floor. Do them slowly, then fast, then medium. Then even super slow. Do some holds, 10, 20 second, even for a minute. The point being to build a muscle-mind connection so that you INCREASE your level of control. Learn to feel the sensations and how the muscles work down there. This will help a lot with controlling ejaculation.
Also learn REVERSE KEGALS. Just search this forum for info on that.
You can also check out Mantak Chia's "The multi-orgasmic man" for an introduction to ejaculation control. I highly recommend every man learn to control their ejaculation for both pleasure and health reasons.
 
habban;700271 said:
Yeah :) Will it make a difference whether you push the penis towards belly or opposite? You mentioned you could do both ways, does it have different effects?

I doubt it. Kegeling is just pushing more blood into the penis, it's not directly moving it.
 
seven_wants_ten;700280 said:
I doubt it. Kegeling is just pushing more blood into the penis, it's not directly moving it.

Exactly right.
 
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