Progress thread Question about girth training and length training.

There is one more question that intriques me... If 5x5x3 is done daily. Is tissue damage too much for bodys recoverability to handle?
Should routine look more like this:
1. Day: Extender 4h, 5x5x3.
2. Day: Extender 4h
3. Day: Extender 4h, 5x5x3.
4. Day: Extender 4h
5. Day: Extender 4h, 5x5x3.
 
There is one more question that intriques me... If 5x5x3 is done daily. Is tissue damage too much for bodys recoverability to handle?
Should routine look more like this:
1. Day: Extender 4h, 5x5x3.
2. Day: Extender 4h
3. Day: Extender 4h, 5x5x3.
4. Day: Extender 4h
5. Day: Extender 4h, 5x5x3.

Do option 1. You are going to be fine.
 
@Infected Mushroom, I need to ask you about something.
- You are using the Phallosan Plus+ system right? And you seems to be a regular user of it, so exactly the right brother to ask
some questions. 👍

What I was wondering about is how you are attching the bell to your glans/penis shaft?
I use the Phallosan forte without the belt as a elongation wrap (link on MOS).

I will describe how I did it, and how I do it right now. The reason I have changed my method is due to the fact that one of my nails cut into the lip of the part of the condome that's attached/streched over the bell.

My logic to this was that it was better to detach the condome completely, so It could rest during the nigth. Since I have no ADS or elongation wrap on during night/sleep.
But I don't think this way is a good method any longer. Since when you are going to put on the condom on the bell, this creates even more stress on the rubber in the condome, and more stress then If I have left the condom attached forever (until it breaks). It feels like it anyways.
Do you have any experience with this?

The cut with my nail destroyed this condome. I could not trust it any longer, since I do not want to it to rip when I'm out and about. I was testing the condome after the cut (was pulling it apart in the rip).
It didn't required a to deep cut in the upper ring (near/on the bell) for it to completely rip apart.

But I don't know? I had probably been able to use this condome some more time, but I did not do that. I got many condoms from Phallosan when ordering the Phallosan forte so I'm good for some time. They are also cheap to be shipped to where I live.

So I will keep it attached at the bell at all times, no need to remove the condome from the bell entirely when I am done using it, or should I?

So my main question to you
@Infected Mushroom:
— Can you roll the condome up nicely and carefully over the bell, when you are going to attach it to your penis?

I have personally not been able to do this.

When I looked at a video with the SiliStretcher the guy was able to do this. So maybe only for this reason alone, the SiliStretcher is a superior device, in comparison to the Phallosan system. Probably true.

I'm only asking this questions since I want to make the best use of this expensive ADS system from Phallosan.

— Do you remove the tiny pump when you are attaching the bell and condome to your penis? That's what I'm doing. But I have a feeling this will wear out the bell and the pump?

The stretch over the bell to later be rolled over my penis shaft for secure attachment feels somewhat abusive to the condome.
— Is there any way to do this in a more kinder/less abusive way? It feels like I will destroy it sometimes.

Over time the Phallosan condome will stretch exactly in front of the bell, and I feel this is going to be a problem, especially if you need higher pressure to use the Phallosan forte for it's intended usage (with the belt). You can say that the rubber becomes stretched out exactly nearest the bell. I'm using the XL bell with the L condoms.

— I feel that the pressure and the attachment will not be secured if this part of the condome is stretched out to much?
The pressure/suction will not be strong.

I can send pictures later if you want more clarification of what I'm talking about. Do you need that?

Many questions I know, I just want some user experience information from someone that are using the Phallosan system daily. Since I want to use my system as optimal as possible, and without the wear and tear I'm describing above.

Kind regards@squirt_inducer_man
 
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I am able to roll it over the bell. At first it was hassle, but I learned it quite fast. Always keep short nails. You shouldn't ever use nails to put it on. I made that mistake with protector cap, and it tore. But I have not yet lost any of my sleeves due breaking.
You can keep the sleeve on bell, but what I do: use rubber band to secure the sleeve on belt. This will keep vacuum better and there is no chance for sleeve to come of, and it also keeps it from loosening.
I also use band tied on sleeves lower part, so vacuum will not disappear due thinning of shaft when it elongates. (band that is used like in clothes, easy to tie. Dont tie too tight. Purpose is only to help keep vacuum.)
I have to knock on wood for not losing any of my sleeves.
 
When I use pump before extending, I use large sleeve. If not, I use medium. I noticed, that even if my penis would be ok at first in large sleeve, shaft tends to narrow alot when stretched. Medium is actually better for holding vacuum. Sleeve will not loose vacuum, if I have secure it from root of the sleeve with tied band.
 
I am able to roll it over the bell. At first it was hassle, but I learned it quite fast. Always keep short nails. You shouldn't ever use nails to put it on. I made that mistake with protector cap, and it tore. But I have not yet lost any of my sleeves due breaking.
You can keep the sleeve on bell, but what I do: use rubber band to secure the sleeve on belt. This will keep vacuum better and there is no chance for sleeve to come of, and it also keeps it from loosening.
I also use band tied on sleeves lower part, so vacuum will not disappear due thinning of shaft when it elongates. (band that is used like in clothes, easy to tie. Dont tie too tight. Purpose is only to help keep vacuum.)
I have to knock on wood for not losing any of my sleeves.
Okey thanks for this information it will help me. The tip with the rubber band on the bell to secure the condome hard, as well the band tied on the sleeve lower part to keep the vacuum, I had not thought about that.

Is it possible for you to post a picture of this band tied on the lower part of the sleeve?
 
I forgot to mention that I did yesterday 5x5x3 after extending. Today I am feeling bit retraction of penis, since I forgot to put Phallosan Forte on. Slept like baby, that helped with workday. I am not going to do 5x5x3 today. I need to be sure if my approach of elongating turtling is right one. So today I will do Phallosan Plus for 4 hours. After that I will use Forte. I promised yesterday that I would measure my flacid vs. stretched. I think I will measure stretched today, and flacid tomorrow. Because I can get more accurate measurement without turtling, if my hypothesis is correct about turtling or so called "creep".

I really like my airpump with gauge, but I miss bathmates. Warm water makes penis more malliable. Of course there are several negative things when using water pump, like got water tending to remove important oil from skin, that can result in skin dryness. That is preventable with good lotion after water pumping. One thing that made me take break from water pumping is that even if it is truly effective, but lack of gauge with bathmates can cause serious problems with bursting veins. Healing them take huge amount of time. This why I am definitely going to buy Mityvac, as it seems to have good gauge.
I forgot to mention, that I used to do so, that I warmed my penis with bathmate Hercules for 10 mins so penis becomes malliable. Makes big difference.
 
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