Pumping with Bathmate outside the tub?

[BvckWood]

Not sure of I should post this in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] section because this is more about penis enlargement rather than the pump itself.

So far I have gained 3/8" in EL/MEG and 5/8" in BEG pumping in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] for an hour. I thought of upping the time by 15 minutes which would total 75 minutes. My tub water usually cools down alot which decreases expansion often. I come out the pump at 6 3/4" girth and pretty much pack the tube, obviously alot of it is fluid retention but I've been gaining from it.

A thread caught my eye called "Bathmate after 2 months" posted back in 2011. The man, Dan_Cliver, whom gained a substantial amount of size gained by using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] 6sets/6minutes 2-4 times a day, everyday. The thing is he used it outside the tub and never gotten fluid retention.

My point is this. Whenever I've used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] outside the tub, I wouldn't get fluid retention despite the long session. While in the tub I get fluid retention but the suction feels stronger. I use full pressure in both situations. I've gained from using in the tub, but wanted to try out the 6x6 workouts because I've read about not getting fluid retention and still gaining girth. I gain 1" in temporary girth while getting fluid retention, but get only 1/8" in temporary girth pumping outside the tub.

For those whom used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words].
Is fluid retention truly bad?
Did you gain without getting retention?
How often did you workout and how long did you pump for?
Was your expansion as large compared to getting fluid retention?
Apologies for the long post.
Here is the link to the thread.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/bathmate-hercules-goliath-hydromax-x20-x30-x40-x50-and-hydromax-xtreme-hydropump-forum/61976-bathmate-after-two-months-3.html

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I've been aggressively pumping in my modded [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words] for over 3 years and have noticed that my FR is much less now than when I first began. I also try to pump with the highest EQ as possible, maintaining it throughout each stage. I do all my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] work in the shower (standing) and to conserve water, I reduce the pressure down to as little as possible and still have an enjoyable (read warm) time.
My next experiment will be pumping with a constricting sleeve to see if I can eliminate 100% of FR as well as direct growth more North/South vs. East/West.

In answer to your questions...i don't believe FR is either good or bad...I've consistently gained from day-one (although the initial newbie gains came-on much quicker than now)...I try to have 3-5 sessions per week and they range from 5X5X3 to 8X8X3

 

[BvckWood]

I've been aggressively pumping in my modded [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words] for over 3 years and have noticed that my FR is much less now than when I first began. I also try to pump with the highest EQ as possible, maintaining it throughout each stage. I do all my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] work in the shower (standing) and to conserve water, I reduce the pressure down to as little as possible and still have an enjoyable (read warm) time.
My next experiment will be pumping with a constricting sleeve to see if I can eliminate 100% of FR as well as direct growth more North/South vs. East/West.

In answer to your questions...i don't believe FR is either good or bad...I've consistently gained from day-one (although the initial newbie gains came-on much quicker than now)...I try to have 3-5 sessions per week and they range from 5X5X3 to 8X8X3

Did you notice wether short sessions were better than long ones?
I tried 4 sets of 15minutes and that's how I got 1" expansion. I tried 15 5 minute sets and got .75" expansion only because the bath water got cold. I was going to try 5sets/5min three times a day. I think that will keep me pumped all day and into the next.

 

[DLD]

Did you notice wether short sessions were better than long ones?
I tried 4 sets of 15minutes and that's how I got 1" expansion. I tried 15 5 minute sets and got .75" expansion only because the bath water got cold. I was going to try 5sets/5min three times a day. I think that will keep me pumped all day and into the next.

5 minutes was the average time I came up with as to when fluid retention begins, some later up to 10 minutes. The short 5 minute sets are super-setted with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] to counter any retention and to bring greater expansion. 3 sets are usually enough to get you to your max temp girth.

 

[BvckWood]

5 minutes was the average time I came up with as to when fluid retention begins, some later up to 10 minutes. The short 5 minute sets are super-setted with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] to counter any retention and to bring greater expansion. 3 sets are usually enough to get you to your max temp girth.

Does fluid retention come when tunica expansion is at its greatest? Is there a way to keep expanding the tunica without getting fluid retention? I usually get fluid retention after a 15 minute set or 4, 5 minute sets. I pump at full vacuum.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

The variable that makes the most difference for me is EQ...the higher EQ the lower FR and greater overall session

 

[BvckWood]

Bump for an answer to the question.

I get FR regardless. It just depends on how long I pump.

 

[bandit2010]

I have been pumping at no eq up to as high as erect, and what I have found for the most post expansion, pump no more that 10 mins but here lately what I have been doing is pumping for 10 to 15 mins straight, clamping after, and then doing 15 mins of jelqing, I have noticed when I pull out and clamp, I hardly have no fluid build up, last night I done this, and noticed 3/4 a inch of expansion.

 

[bandit2010]

and one of the reasons, I pump and then do ssjs or jelqs when I get done, is it is a pita to do that in the tub. so I just do it after.

 

[BvckWood]

You stated you hardly have no fluid retention, which means you have a lot?

I was thinking of going back to pumping everyday instead of going 4on/3off, simply because my size never fluctuates and stays the same. I'm hoping that the expansion from the pump will cement over time.

Does fluid retention come when tunica expansion is at its greatest?

 

[bandit2010]

I have some but not much, and usually its gone in a hour

 

[BvckWood]

I'm going to try going in flaccid. That seems to be the general consensus for gaining with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words]. Although I did gain while using erect, using flaccid makes more since. Since its a device used to reverse ED, it's supposed to give you an erection. Using it with an erection won't be able to fill your penis with new blood, and instead keep the blood you already have.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I'm going to try going in flaccid. That seems to be the general consensus for gaining with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words]. Although I did gain while using erect, using flaccid makes more since. Since its a device used to reverse ED, it's supposed to give you an erection. Using it with an erection won't be able to fill your penis with new blood, and instead keep the blood you already have.

do you have the VacuVin mod?

 

[arkailija]

Vacuvin mod is the bomb! A great investment for less than 20 USD.

I can understand the point of going in flaccid. But there's also much sense going in erect; I would say to exercise erect and flaccid. One day could be flaccid pumping up to an erection and then other entering the pump while erected.
For me vitamin V (sildenafil) helps in the latter part.
Of course a balanced and varied diet it important in wholesome well-being. I've implented brazil nuts to my diet as of late, while they are a bit expensive, you only need to eat a few per day, so the bag you buy will last a moment. Definitely refrigerate once you've opened the bag. I keep mine in a sealed container.

Good sessions to every brother out there!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

What benefits do Brazil nuts possess?

 

[BvckWood]

There's honestly a lot less sense going in erect than flaccid. I went in erect and have gained, but to do so I had to push myself very hard and experience a lot of fluid retention. I usually come out 6.75" girth. I have nothing to lose trying flaccid. Most of the gainer from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] report using it flaccid.

You can't compare the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] to a regular air pump. They're two completely different styles of pumping.

It's probably different for everyone. I just notice the bigger pump gainers, whom used a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words], used it flaccid.

 

[DLD]

What benefits do Brazil nuts possess?

Found online:

5 Amazing Health Benefits of Brazil Nuts

1. Anti-Inflammatory

Brazil nuts are great for inflammatory issues in the body because they’re tremendous anti-inflammatory foods. Brazil nuts, as do most nuts, contain ellagic acid. Why is this important? Ellagic acid has high anti-inflammatory properties in the body and can even be neuroprotective. (3)

Another important anti-inflammatory agent in Brazil nuts is selenium, which is hugely important when combating inflammation in the body. Selenium takes part in antioxidant activity that defends against both free radical damage and inflammation. A 2012 study found that just one Brazil nut per day is able to improve anti-inflammatory and antioxidant responses in the body. In the study, 45 patients received one nut a day for three months. After three months of eating on Brazil nut per day, not only did the anti-inflammatory and antioxidant responses improve, but cholesterol levels improved as well. (4)

2. Anticancer

Brazil nuts are also on the list of cancer-fighting foods, again due to their high ellagic acid and selenium levels. Ellagic acid is also antimutagenic and anticancer. (5)

Meanwhile, selenium, an essential biological trace element, has been shown to reduce and prevent the incidence of cancer. A five-year, randomized nutritional intervention study took place in China where esophageal cancer rates are extremely high and selenium intake is low. The results, published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, found highly significant inverse associations of serum selenium levels with the incidence of esophageal cancer. (6)

Many health professionals believe and some studies have shown a possible link between having toxic levels of mercury in the body and cancer incidence. Some animal studies show that the selenium can help reduce toxic mercury levels, which can further help fight cancer. (7)

3. Mood Lifter

As mentioned, the No. 1 food source on the planet for selenium is brazil nuts. Selenium has been scientifically proven to lift mood and prevent depression. One study conducted by the Swansea University Department of Psychology in Wales and published in Biological Psychiatry examined selenium’s effects on depression, anxiety and mood. This double-blind study examined 50 volunteers who were given a placebo or 100 micrograms of selenium on a daily basis, and three times throughout the five weeks they filled out a “Profile of Moods Stats” questionnaire.

4. Heart Health Booster

In small amounts, Brazil nuts can provide a healthy boost to one of your most important organs — your heart. The selenium, potassium, calcium and magnesium present in these nuts are all helpful for maintaining a healthy blood pressure, which has a direct positive effect on heart health. (10)

Brazil nuts are naturally high in fat, but most of that fat is the health-boosting unsaturated kind. The unsaturated fats in Brazil nuts can increase your HDL cholesterol levels (good cholesterol). A healthy level of HDL cholesterol can protect against heart attack and stroke, while low levels of HDL cholesterol have been shown to increase the risk of heart disease. (11)

5. Thyroid Control

Your thyroid helps control your metabolism, heart rate and body temperature. The thyroid gland has more selenium content per gram of tissue than any other organ in your body. Selenium is a key component of the molecules that are necessary for your body to be able to create and use thyroid hormones. The selenium in Brazil nuts can help to keep your thyroid in proper working order and in overall good health .

Research now shows, through numerous studies, that there is a link between thyroid metabolism and selenium deficiency. Selenium acts as a catalyst for the production of active thyroid hormones. (12) A 2015 Brazilian study found that people with reduced levels of the thyroid hormone T3 were able to increase their selenium levels via Brazil nut supplementation, which was associated with improvement in thyroid hormone levels in the patients with reduced T3 levels. (13)

Overall, selenium from Brazil nuts acts as a powerful protector of the thyroid and regulates the production of reactive oxygen within the gland, and it protects the body from antibodies that can create thyroid disease. (14) Thus, the Brazil nut can act as a natural remedy for thyroid health, thanks mostly to its selenium content.

 

[arkailija]

Yup, good find! I mainly eat them for the selenium content. They're tasty though, which is an added bonus. (OK, sometimes you ran into a rancid one, but that happens, that's why I noted about the fridge and stuff.)

Selenium is quite big on sperm production, at least by the sources I've read from. I do have multivitamins, bee related products (honey, propolis etc..), matcha ... All kinds of stuff! The matcha I have gave me a very nice buzz a while ago, much different compared to a coffee rush.
All in all, things that boost my body and keep my mind happy.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Yup, good find! I mainly eat them for the selenium content. They're tasty though, which is an added bonus. (OK, sometimes you ran into a rancid one, but that happens, that's why I noted about the fridge and stuff.)

Selenium is quite big on sperm production, at least by the sources I've read from. I do have multivitamins, bee related products (honey, propolis etc..), matcha ... All kinds of stuff! The matcha I have gave me a very nice buzz a while ago, much different compared to a coffee rush.
All in all, things that boost my body and keep my mind happy.

Maybe I'll concoct a nice pesto and see how it tastes

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Found online:

5 Amazing Health Benefits of Brazil Nuts

1. Anti-Inflammatory

Brazil nuts are great for inflammatory issues in the body because they’re tremendous anti-inflammatory foods. Brazil nuts, as do most nuts, contain ellagic acid. Why is this important? Ellagic acid has high anti-inflammatory properties in the body and can even be neuroprotective. (3)

Another important anti-inflammatory agent in Brazil nuts is selenium, which is hugely important when combating inflammation in the body. Selenium takes part in antioxidant activity that defends against both free radical damage and inflammation. A 2012 study found that just one Brazil nut per day is able to improve anti-inflammatory and antioxidant responses in the body. In the study, 45 patients received one nut a day for three months. After three months of eating on Brazil nut per day, not only did the anti-inflammatory and antioxidant responses improve, but cholesterol levels improved as well. (4)

2. Anticancer

Brazil nuts are also on the list of cancer-fighting foods, again due to their high ellagic acid and selenium levels. Ellagic acid is also antimutagenic and anticancer. (5)

Meanwhile, selenium, an essential biological trace element, has been shown to reduce and prevent the incidence of cancer. A five-year, randomized nutritional intervention study took place in China where esophageal cancer rates are extremely high and selenium intake is low. The results, published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, found highly significant inverse associations of serum selenium levels with the incidence of esophageal cancer. (6)

Many health professionals believe and some studies have shown a possible link between having toxic levels of mercury in the body and cancer incidence. Some animal studies show that the selenium can help reduce toxic mercury levels, which can further help fight cancer. (7)

3. Mood Lifter

As mentioned, the No. 1 food source on the planet for selenium is brazil nuts. Selenium has been scientifically proven to lift mood and prevent depression. One study conducted by the Swansea University Department of Psychology in Wales and published in Biological Psychiatry examined selenium’s effects on depression, anxiety and mood. This double-blind study examined 50 volunteers who were given a placebo or 100 micrograms of selenium on a daily basis, and three times throughout the five weeks they filled out a “Profile of Moods Stats” questionnaire.

4. Heart Health Booster

In small amounts, Brazil nuts can provide a healthy boost to one of your most important organs — your heart. The selenium, potassium, calcium and magnesium present in these nuts are all helpful for maintaining a healthy blood pressure, which has a direct positive effect on heart health. (10)

Brazil nuts are naturally high in fat, but most of that fat is the health-boosting unsaturated kind. The unsaturated fats in Brazil nuts can increase your HDL cholesterol levels (good cholesterol). A healthy level of HDL cholesterol can protect against heart attack and stroke, while low levels of HDL cholesterol have been shown to increase the risk of heart disease. (11)

5. Thyroid Control

Your thyroid helps control your metabolism, heart rate and body temperature. The thyroid gland has more selenium content per gram of tissue than any other organ in your body. Selenium is a key component of the molecules that are necessary for your body to be able to create and use thyroid hormones. The selenium in Brazil nuts can help to keep your thyroid in proper working order and in overall good health .

Research now shows, through numerous studies, that there is a link between thyroid metabolism and selenium deficiency. Selenium acts as a catalyst for the production of active thyroid hormones. (12) A 2015 Brazilian study found that people with reduced levels of the thyroid hormone T3 were able to increase their selenium levels via Brazil nut supplementation, which was associated with improvement in thyroid hormone levels in the patients with reduced T3 levels. (13)

Overall, selenium from Brazil nuts acts as a powerful protector of the thyroid and regulates the production of reactive oxygen within the gland, and it protects the body from antibodies that can create thyroid disease. (14) Thus, the Brazil nut can act as a natural remedy for thyroid health, thanks mostly to its selenium content.

Maybe that's why those South Americans have huge dicks?

 

[DLD]

Maybe I'll concoct a nice pesto and see how it tastes

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Maybe that's why those South Americans have huge dicks?

well in the study I posted it looks like there are some real benefits to Brazil nuts. I knew none of this. We should start and herbal forum to start to collect and classify these things. I have used Cannabis for most of my issues but I am always looking for other ways to improve my life and tackle some of the issues of getting older.

 

[arkailija]

well in the study I posted it looks like there are some real benefits to Brazil nuts. I knew none of this. We should start and herbal forum to start to collect and classify these things. I have used Cannabis for most of my issues but I am always looking for other ways to improve my life and tackle some of the issues of getting older.

I give my thumbs up for this! I haven't used cannabis at all, but other things for sure. Lots of different nuts, seeds, honey products, different teas. On the non-digestive side a lot of different essential oils.
I think Zam also has dabbled with these things.

At the moment I am taking Brazil nuts more or less on a daily basis. Mucuna Pruriensis I'm also using quite often, it affects dopamine levels.
I sprinkle Nigella Sativa seeds (black seed, there's also oil available) on many of my dishes. I have celery seeds as well, they're great in soups.
Matcha is my newest "favorite", to me it gives a nice buzz, but no high caffeine rush.

There are lots of nice food products out there! I do supplement with some multivitamins as well. It's a different day every day pretty much, so my intake varies.
If one isn't allergic to honey or bee related products, I highly suggest taking a look at bee pollen. Propolis is also wonderful. I've combined a "super shot" with propolis, a bit of honey and apple cider vinegar.

On top of all this, I also take some probiotics. I feel a lot happier when the "core dump" I take is solid and smooth. :O

 

[DLD]

If there is a natural way go for it. God gave us all herbs, plants and trees to feed us and to create medicine. There is something that will help everyone in this type of treatment.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

do we need to create a new 'Pot Head' section? lol

 

[DLD]

do we need to create a new 'Pot Head' section? lol

A new Cannabis healing forum? You got it! I will set it up tonight! I want the whole world to know just how powerful Cannabis is as medicine and that is can take the place of thousands of medications. It has been demonized by the catholic church and since that time it has been seen in the negative view. God gave us these plants for food and medicine. If the world could get their heads around this much of the BS Pharma would be put out of business.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I reside in a 'legal' state...if I was a stoner, it'd be like getting a slurpee at 7/11

 

[DLD]

I reside in a 'legal' state...if I was a stoner, it'd be like getting a slurpee at 7/11

Well Cannabis is great for those who lack an appetite because of disease or other conditions. There is so much the Cannabis does that Pharma can not compete with. In only a matter of time things will change.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

I'm sure I'll be singing the praises of 'hippie lettuce' some day...

 

[DLD]

I'm sure I'll be singing the praises of 'hippie lettuce' some day...

Indeed you will and we will all be together for eternity! I can say with great certainty that the Brothers here are truly doing the work of the Lord in so many ways, your altruism, your advice, you love, it just amazes me that the Brotherhood is filled with such good men. Yes, indeed! We will all be together as one very soon!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Indeed you will and we will all be together for eternity! Yes, indeed! We will all be together as one very soon!

I'm pretty happy being a mere mortal and all hoping this ride continues for at least another 40 years or so

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

well in the study I posted it looks like there are some real benefits to Brazil nuts. I knew none of this. We should start and herbal forum to start to collect and classify these things. I have used Cannabis for most of my issues but I am always looking for other ways to improve my life and tackle some of the issues of getting older.

yes DLD please start this subforum. diet is a HUGE part of PE and i also think its effects are very quick to occur. especially foods that regulate the body temperature and boost libido are very important. i know personally when i have a quality meal mixed with my intermittent fasting i have a much fatter and slightly longer schlong.

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

to the OP, i've gained about 0.4-0.5 inches from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] but that's mainly at the base, some at glans and below glans

probably because i get the most and quickest expansion at the base which was delightfully surprising because i was lacking girth at the base

i used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] dry 95% of the time for 4 months straight pretty much daily. the thing is i didn't find much difference between water and dry except for the fact u can get more pressure with water, but i stayed with dry because i felt it was still enough pressure considering i have the XX version with the hand-pump

anyway man i started out in the first two months about doing extremely long sets like 4 sets of 18-20mins, then i also read Dan's thread and tried 6-12 sets of 6mins. i ended up sticking with that because it was less painful and more tolerable and i was still getting great expansion

i'm back doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] now and trying out 8-10min sets but we'll see

 

[DLD]

yes DLD please start this subforum. diet is a HUGE part of PE and i also think its effects are very quick to occur. especially foods that regulate the body temperature and boost libido are very important. i know personally when i have a quality meal mixed with my intermittent fasting i have a much fatter and slightly longer schlong.

Will do, I will create it tonight.

 

[BvckWood]

I switched my routine to 6 sets of 6 minute pumping with the pressure increasing every pump. I do multiple sets everyday and I noticed my base girth boomed. I think I might have peyronies in my midshaft from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s. It doesn't expand well and makes an hour glass figure a lot of the time.

My base goes from 6 5/8" to 7" while my midshaft goes from 5 3/4" to 6" after pumping. My base girth did grow alot. Went from 6" to 6 5/8" in about two weeks. I have low EQ from pumping daily but I gained 1/8" width at my midshaft so I know if I relax, I'll measure a gain.

Seems like jelqing after the sessions tie in well and helps cement my pump size faster. Since I usually get 1/8" expansion midshaft and used to measure 5 7/8" after pumping, I grew 1/8".

 

[DLD]

Seems like jelqing after the sessions tie in well and helps cement my pump size faster. Since I usually get 1/8" expansion midshaft and used to measure 5 7/8" after pumping, I grew 1/8".

It will also help eliminate fluid retention and increase tissue expansion!