Pro Hormones now Banned

[Super]

Well it is official ladies and gents. The FDA issued a ban on prohormones as of today and has told all supp companies to stop selling them asap. I guess we all got what we were asking for by not stading up. You know they are actually talking about banning creatine and DHEA too. So don't think they won't do it.

 

[Stunna]

THATS RIDICULOUS! Creatine is in food what the hell?!? So are they gonna ban all red meats too? That's rediculous, protein is in food too, are they gonna ban protein and the atkins diet too? People don't know what amounts to do protein or creatine in and don't research things before they try them, if you take too much creatine you CAN fuck up your liver and become dehydrated but if you eat too much you can get fat and risk heartattack, anything in excess is bad, why doesn't the government get on McDonald's and Burger King?

 

[fallen_one23]

they look at anything that could kill a guyand ban it, might as well ban sleeping pills for people who need it cause some guy tried to commit suicide with them. There's a lot of people that have no common sense that abuse drugs, and get hurt. they take all the drugs away from everyone, even people with enough sense to use it right.

its got to stop, they should make everything legal, it'll kill the stupid people in our society, and bam, overpopulation is cured.

 

[Super]

Well they are not getting a hold of my IGF!!!

 

[stillwantmore]

Wahoo! I'm selling my Muscle Tech stock!

 

[Super]

Woot!!

 

[Gandolf]

Well they are not getting a hold of my IGF!!!

I bet there are laws restricting the sale of this stuff man. Most of the online and mail order compnaies that do sell it are a little sketchy to say the least.

 

[Super]

Never, they cant this is for research purposes, they cant touch it

 

[bigbutnottoo]

Fuck this shit.

 

[Dario]

It looks like only andro is banned (thus far).

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/03/11/andro.crackdown/index.html

FDA begins crackdown on supplement andro
Thursday, March 11, 2004 Posted: 3:30 PM EST (2030 GMT)

(CNN) -- Federal officials announced Thursday a crackdown on the supplement andro, which gained fame after baseball player Mark McGwire used the product in his record-setting 1998 season.

The Food and Drug Administration said that manufacturers of andro products will have to cease production unless the makers can prove it is safe. Although andro is not a steroid and is marketed as a dietary supplement, the FDA said the health risks are the same.

The agency sent letters Thursday to 23 companies that distribute andro products, warning they could face government action if they didn't follow the recommendations.

"While andro products may seem to have short-term benefits, the science shows that these same properties create real and significant health risks," said FDA Commissioner Mark McClellan.

"Anyone who takes these products in sufficient quantities to build muscle or improve performance is putting himself or herself at risk for serious long-term and potentially irreversible health consequences."

Andro, or androstenedione, is a hormone that is made naturally in the human body during the production of testosterone and estrogen. Some advocates say higher levels of testosterone will enable athletes to train harder, build bigger muscles and get results faster. Concentrated levels of andro are in the pills and supplements on the market.

But medical studies have shown it can have serious side effects. According to the Mayo Clinic, andro supplement use by males has been responsible for diminished sperm production, shrunken testicles, enlarged breasts, acne and decreased levels of the heart-friendly kind of cholesterol.

Officials said the move against andro also was prompted by concerns that children have been influenced by professional athletes' use of performance-enhancing supplements and the ease with which young people can buy them. Studies have shown such supplements can stunt children's physical and sexual growth.

About one out of 40 high school seniors reported that they had used andro in the past year, according to a 2002 Department of Health and Human Services survey.

"Young people, athletes and other consumers should steer clear of andro because there are serious, substantial concerns about its safety," Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said in a statement Thursday.

"Young people should understand that there are no short cuts to a stronger body and that the best way to get faster and stronger is through good diet, nutrition and exercise."

Unlike drugs, supplements do not have to be proven safe before going on the market, but federal authorities can act to take them off the shelves if the product's safety is called into question. The FDA blocked the sale of ephedra last year, the first time U.S. officials had taken such action against a nutritional supplement.

The FDA's McClellan has said that his agency is stepping up its scrutiny of the health effects of supplements and that new manufacturing and labeling regulations are in the works.

Meanwhile, Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Delaware, has sponsored legislation that would ban the newly discovered steroid THG and andro, which baseball's McGwire admits he used the season he broke the long-standing single season home run record.

"[Drug companies] have these precursors to steroids that have the same properties and also diminish health," Biden said Thursday on CNN's "American Morning." "I have had a bill for the past two years with Sen. [Orrin] Hatch that says human hormone supplements, andro and all these things should be treated like steroids."

The FDA's action comes a day after a congressional hearing in which Republicans and Democrats alike sharply criticized Major League Baseball's lax steroid testing of athletes.

At the hearing, Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig conceded that his sport has not done enough to curb use of steroids and other enhancement drugs. Selig told lawmakers he would be willing to reconsider current policy.

 

[bigbutnottoo]

The FDA should be dismantled. I mean that seriously.

AND, the FDA is responsibile for killing more people than it has ever saved ( if you dont know what I mean by that I can explain but I dont have time right now).

 

[Super]

Yea and the FDA puts it stamp on a bag of Doritoes and says they are good for us, what a load of shit, fuck the FDA

 

[bigdick]

I know what you mean; they FUCK AROUND waiting to approve a drug which could have saved many lives. This is total bullshit, and to banned creatine is down right fucking retarded like Stunna said its in certain foods and that’s mean they would have to ban these aminos Arginine, Glycine and Methionine which our liver make creatine from. It just pisses me off that they can let a filthy big mac trough which is loaded with saturated fats and other nasties which can cause health problems IF eaten to often which seems to be happing these days and then do ban supplements like prohormones or creatine which have cause minimal health problems in comparison. So my last words to the FDA are "get on your knees and :blowjob: "

 

[Super]

FDA can shove it up there ass

 

[bigbutnottoo]

I know what you mean; they FUCK AROUND waiting to approve a drug which could have saved many lives. "

Right. If a drug could save 50,000 lives but might give you a headache they will hold it up or not approve it at all ( and I'm not really exagerating here).

 

[Super]

FDA is wack

I am sticking with my IGF-1LR# molecule

 

[Stunna]

Yea and they FDA also doesn't allow a lot of diff. researches to help cure cancer or regrow nerves or anything because of certain ethical issues. I have an ethical issue with america being overweight... i don't see anything changing...

 

[thrillah]

They did the same thing with ephedra...... a supplement that was helping hundreds of thousands of people control their eating habits and lose weight because a few dipshits thought it would help them more by taking 4 times the directed dosage.

 

[randolf]

fucking faggots. So glad I dont' live in america. Up in Canada we have pussy fagot government pussies too, but they are too weak to have any law enforcement. So everything is illegal but they have no money to enforce it.

I had two friends last year taking steroids that were obvious terrorists. Our government nearest anti terror people are 3000 kilometers away and there is two of them.

Its so obvious whats going on in the western world. We literally are regulating ourselves into oblivion, among other problems.

But know this the faggot buerocrats and their vast supporters in your nation will always be tiny little nerds with tiny little dicks. Where I live I get shit wages and have no chance to get into the government jobs. You have to have family to get in there and for the same job they get payed more then 4 times as much.

However these little faggots there actualy believe in the crap they are spewing. For example they are always trying to lose weight and get as tiny as they can. Because they think its sexy. They also don't act like men and always run from violence etc.

When I go to nightclubs I see these metrosexual losers there. They are usualy about 135 pounds but with expensive watches and perfect clothes and shaves and cologne. I come in 275 pounds unshaven, in my fucking work boots. I bring my own alchohol in because I ain't paying their costs for drinks. Its their stupid regulations that make a 25 cents product sell for 6 dollars. My friends are bigger then the bouncers including me. If someone wants to challenge me I'll break their face, and if I do lose I'm grabbing a gun.

I act like a fucking man in there I hit on women even if they are with one of these losers. The women always love it and dance. When I dance I dont' fuck around with respecting women's rights etc. I just grab the bitch and dance. I can't even afford a car yet I still easily get more action then any of these socialist statist losers.

I've also started a militia with some people I know and its growing. We are taking what little money we have and buying guns and body armor. And ammunition. I'm tired of all of this regulation and bullshit. I want to be free I don't want to suBathmateit to some limp wristed tiny dicked loser.

Everyday I dream of when I get the chance to just rip these socialist mother @#$#$@ers in half with military rounds. For me its at that point. I never bother debating with socialist on the merits of regulation. Its either you are for having people free or you are against it. If you are against it we will butcher you when we are capable.

No debating no arguing. Just either stop or you die, and we take all your things and your women.

 

[Super]

Yea I remember when I could BUY GHB on the selves at GNC but fucking Clinton had it made a banned substance, what an ass hole

 

[Super]

I am moving to canada when I retire from the Marines, I am so sick of out Gov

 

[Gandolf]

I, for one, don't see a problem with promormones being banned. Firsly, they caused most of the bad effects that steroids caused. Secondly, I read numerous articles about them not being effectice in increasing strength, i.e. they worked in theory but not in practice. OK everybody, go ahead and flame me, I'm sure it's coming.

BUT, before you do Supra, you have abused steroids in the past and look where it got you. I bet you got some good short term gains in size and strength but you claim they dramaitically shrunk your nuts permanently, caused your acne to flare up, and caused you to lose your hair among other things. So, please think before you bash my post. As long as there are dangerous drugs out there, people will abuse them. You are a prime example of this.

 

[Super]

Im not bashing anything, good post, all true, but it was my decision, and they were real steriods not pro hormones.

 

[stillwantmore]

I am moving to canada when I retire from the Marines, I am so sick of out Gov

Sell your guns before you go! Cant take em with ya (Eh!). rofl

 

[Super]

Hey keep eating your viagra you avatar steeler!! YUM YUM

 

[Godsize]

The government wants to keep you sick, weak, and in need of treatment because that's where the money is.

Why do you think that cigarettes and alcohol are the only two legal drugs in America?

Why do you think that bullshit "food pyramid" is set up the way it is?

America wants you to be fat and stupid. And by the looks of things, they are succeeding.

"Pro-hormones" are bullshit anyway. Just another fucking scam to make money.

 

[bigbutnottoo]

I, for one, don't see a problem with promormones being banned. .

I do because it defeats the purpose of a government based on freedom and personal responsibility. We should not be protected from ourselves. A true crime involves 2 parties, one that needs protection from the force of another.

 

[Super]

I do because it defeats the purpose of a government based on freedom and personal responsibility. We should not be protected from ourselves. A true crime involves 2 parties, one that needs protection from the force of another.

Exaclty Right

 

[SLICEDBEEF]

I, for one, don't see a problem with promormones being banned. Firsly, they caused most of the bad effects that steroids caused. Secondly, I read numerous articles about them not being effectice in increasing strength, i.e. they worked in theory but not in practice. OK everybody, go ahead and flame me, I'm sure it's coming.

BUT, before you do Supra, you have abused steroids in the past and look where it got you. I bet you got some good short term gains in size and strength but you claim they dramaitically shrunk your nuts permanently, caused your acne to flare up, and caused you to lose your hair among other things. So, please think before you bash my post. As long as there are dangerous drugs out there, people will abuse them. You are a prime example of this.

I don't agree... I say everybody has the right to do with their body what they want too. Who the hell are these politition's/lobbyiest's to say what I can and can't do as long as I'm not hurting/effecting anybody else.

By the way, I've taken a few different steroids a few different times...and I've had absolutely no side-effect at all because I researched and learned the correct way's to go about a stack. I don't think I should be punished for some other people's ignorance. Tylenol kills hundereds of people a year...why aint that banned?

The funny thing is, is that the pharmiceutical companies already have patent's on some products that contain these recently banned substances (such as ephedra)... Believe me when I say that lobyiest's are rooting for banning even creatine because their's big money to be made by monopolizng the market to big companies and ridding the small suppliment companies... The supplement business is a multi-billion dollar business and these "big" pharmiceutical/companies buy off lobyiest's to make more bullshit laws, so they can cash in.

 

[Super]

So true

 

[quijjiboo]

Fuckin government doesn't care about people health. What a cheap lazyass way to gain public favour, newsrags put the horns and pitchfork on bottles of ephedrine and people go around thinking it's evil. Ya the government is finally doing something good for the country, they care about our health *sarcasm*

 

[Super]

The goverment just wants control of everything. I am so partiotic, but this has got to stop

 

[bigbutnottoo]

The goverment just wants control of everything. I am so partiotic, but this has got to stop

Well, my thought is that you dont have to support the government to be patriotic. You just have to support the people. What I think a lot of people dont realize or understand is that the government exists to serve us, not the other way around.

 

[Super]

I support the people 100% and the Marine Corps 100% but I do not support out government in there action concerning this and many other things

 

[Super]

I am still pissed about this!!

 

[philadelph]

Yeah but it should take awhile for them to actually stop selling them so stock up now if you can!

 

[bigbutnottoo]

I am too, but perhaps I will just start breaking the law. Everybody else does anyway.

 

[UnFuknPerro]

Well it is official ladies and gents. The FDA issued a ban on prohormones as of today and has told all supp companies to stop selling them asap. I guess we all got what we were asking for by not stading up. You know they are actually talking about banning creatine and DHEA too. So don't think they won't do it.

Prohormones are NOT banned... yet. There has been discussion in the Senate to remove all prohormones from the market. However it hasnt been passed yet. I know this because I work very closely with Gaspari Nutrition www.richgaspari.com, one of the leading manufacturers of quality prohormones. Sales of MOneT and MethylD during the months of February and March have been better than ever before.