man i know for the past 2 months i have done nothing but try different things in pe and i have lost some of my gains because of it well that and weight gain. at first i was on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and i was doing good i had a .25 gain in length and my bpfsl was up to 7 inches now i'm at 5" nbp length instead of 5.25. i had my wife make a captains wench for me and all i did was hang and ditched the manual stuff well in results of this i lost that .25 i know hanging is good for some but man i'm going back to the good old DLD"S [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and start all over. i will be starting a diet and workout routine also so guys wish me luck because i'm going to need it for that 7 inches of cock that i want.