MAXAMEYES;424463 said:I like what Edgar Cayce reported,
"When you pray you talk to God, when you meditate God talks to you."
REDZULU2003;424358 said:I understand. My points were earlier in the thread when the thread creator pulled me up about praying to saints as not allowed which to me is offensive but its his choice and view, I have to respect it but on the same token he needs to respect other folks views and differences.
Shooting for 7";424436 said:I totally understand and respect your points (I am a total convert of Meditation and would suggest the entire planet did this).
However, it dawned on me that perhaps praying, is a form of meditation.
I meditate twice a day, morning and evening (30 minutes each time) and would be interested in your take on what I'm claiming here.
MrFreak;424489 said:Praying to any other person besides God is a sin... even jesus said not to pray to anyone not even him but only the father... but again not tellin u wat to do jst wat I kno
REDZULU2003;424496 said:According to some branches of religion yes but in reality its not a sin. Praying to the Virgin Mary is NOT a sin. Praying to the saints and archangels isn't a sin to me either but again some branches of Christianity and other religions see this as a sin. I respect that but for me Jesus and God do not condemn anyone for that. The saints are actually working through jesus and god for the person who is praying to them whih is forgotten about such as St Jude the saint of lost causes who will pray to the high lord on your behalf.
I know this new age stuff is very caught up inside the universal laws and the energy around usI know all that but it helps to have a 'go between' and that is said with no disrespect. The lord Jesus Christ is such a mediator for humankind, a link to god (Universal powers) all this we perceive as religion and new age theology is really ONE tied in. My core beliefs though obviously are Christianity Church Of England but I'm not a die-hard who takes every word for word but more modernised for today's world, albeit aware of the evils around me while also incorporating my own beliefs into my meditations and prayers to Jesus and God.
That sums it up really ... Religion can be as personal or as impersonal as you make it.
MrFreak;424524 said:.
God said himself he is a jealous god how do think he feels about u praying to other people besides him....
MAXAMEYES;424578 said:That always cracked me up...didn't God create EVERYTHING? What has "he" got to be jealous of?
doublelongdaddy;424595 said:I am sorry Max, I do get jealous occasionally![]()
MAXAMEYES;424521 said:And yet, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."
Hmmmm.....
MAXAMEYES;424578 said:That always cracked me up...didn't God create EVERYTHING? What has "he" got to be jealous of?
I've never once been threatened enough by the existence of my boogers to be jealous of even one of 'em.
In the enormity of the universe all of humanity amounts to far, far less than a booger.
And...
God is now a people?!?
REDZULU2003;424674 said:Ancient Chinese thought total solar eclipse was a dragon swallowing the sun, so I understand the literal takings of past events on our own knowledge to date. Very interesting thread and pleased more people are involved in this section.
MAXAMEYES;417244 said:B-boy, this is not a debate. I', m not going to try to open your mind, I got better things to do with my life. I could sit here, copy and paste for years, all to no discernable conclusion.
I'll just leave you with one of the, literally hundreds, of blatantly contradictory Bible passages that convinced me, without a shred of doubt, that the Bible as we know it is a flawed and incomplete document.
And all of your apologistic gymnastics will never, ever convince me otherwise.
Also; having never met any one of my great grandfathers, I sure as hell ain't suffering for their actions.
Isaiah 14:21 Prepare for his sons a place of slaughter
Because of the iniquity of their fathers.
They must not arise and take possession of the earth
And fill the face of the world with cities.
Exodus 20:5 You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,
Yet directly contradicted here:
Deut. 24:16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezek.18:20 "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punisHydromaxent for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punisHydromaxent for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.
Alex DeLarge;417266 said:Hey Max,I was addressing BANANAxBOY because he started the thread but anyone can comment. My questions are in my post in the first paragraph ( sentences that end with a question mark )
And BANANAxBOY , my first post there may have been a little aggressive,didn't really mean to be like that.I like topics like this so I get a little worked up .
And if you're honest about your feelings of love it would be better to thank you than to bash you regardless what is the driving force behind it...
Cheers...
BANANAxBOY;424893 said:They would be contradictory if they were in the same book talking about the same people. Like all these old testament books, there were different rules for different people and different consiquences for different people. Therfore they are not contridictory.
BxB
BANANAxBOY;424896 said:I fully trust [god] with my money,
doublelongdaddy;424926 said:My beliefs, I fear, would make most think I suffer from the grandest sense of grandiosity but if my beliefs are true there is no "most", there is only me, so it does not matter what others think as they do not exist. I know existence, you, us, them, this all happened when I opened my eyes and how glorious it is. The stories, the books, the technology, the religions, the universe it is me! YES! It happened when I open my eyes and this perpetual momentum of the illusion of life is wonderful and infinite. For the moment I opened my eyes was also an illusion, for I am timeless, I am without mass, I am without space, I am an eternal energy that is GOD.
Every being needs to realize the above.
BANANAxBOY;424893 said:They would be contradictory if they were in the same book talking about the same people. Like all these old testament books, there were different rules for different people and different consiquences for different people. Therfore they are not contridictory.
MAXAMEYES;424931 said:I just can't let this pass:
Those comments are from one source (God) speaking to one group (Ihis children), they are contradictory and in most cases diametrically opposed. To attempt otherwise you yourself reduce God to the level of a capricious child throwing a tantrum.
If the meaning, rules and consequences issued from God are subject to change of this magnitude without any prior warning then we are all screwed.
Because it's rather hard to uphold a standard you do not and can not possibly know exists.
doublelongdaddy;424943 said:Remember guys, I am a registered preacher.![]()