My first SRT type routine

longstretch said:
You're doing allot of work. If gains have still stalled I recommend taking 3 months completely off and then coming back with a much much much stepped down routine and slowly build back up.
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Longstretch,
Yeah, I tried slow and steady for a little over 2 years and got some gains but very minimal. 3/8” per year in length and less than a 1/4 total (in 2 years) in girth.
When I decided to join MOS I got really excited about the more is more approach coupled with SRT. But so far I haven’t seen any results from this either.
I have had a few weeks off but 3 months would drive me crazy!! I’m really just searching for something that brings results, even if it’s slow. I’m plenty dedicated and will fit in as much or as little as possible to make this happen.
 
Trust me man I totally understand. The reasons you listed are the exact reasons why you need a decon. You gained a little then really ramped up the intensity and quit gaining despite using popular techniques for gaining (hanging and extending). You've now overworked your tissues and need to rest so it will loosen up and gains can occur and occur with less work. Basically all this work has been toughening up the collagenous matrix in your penis meaning it requires more work to make gains if any and also means future gains will need more intense work.

If regular scheduled breaks aren't a part of your routine you need an extended decon. I'm coming back from almost 2 years away and have made newbie like gains with a little work.

Read the last few pages of my log for more information, I think starting at page 51. I'm on a decon now and will restart in 2 week's and hope to continue making gains.
 
You can basically keep spinning your wheels and upping time and tension, possibly gaining but definitely making future gains harder and very likely increasing likelihood of injury. Or you could rest and do what works. Come back with a deconditioned dick and gain with less work. It'll still take work but less of it.
 
If stopping completely scares you you could do a step down routine until you get to a point that you’re doing nothing and then from that point give yourself a week off and start back in with the most basic routine possible. From that point you can build on it and get yourself back into SRT when you’re ready. Sometimes we just need to lay off for a little while for the penis to respond.
 
I too was hesitant of incorporating regular decon breaks into my routine and even more hesitant about incorporating prolonged decon breaks. However when look back over my long PE career my best gains, including recently, have came after decon breaks. I don't mean taking a week or two off, especially if having been stalled for months, much less years!

I took others lead on taking decon breaks. And they were making consistent gains. In fact I took one before I ventured into vacuum hanging after being stalled for 2 years despite religious PE. Take 3 months off, allow your tissues to decon and come back with slightly less newbie gains, we do have diminishing returns with breaks or not.

Even DLD took 2 months off and wore tight underwear before developing SRT. I don't recommend wearing tight underwear at any time but still he took a decon.

Think about it. You can keep upping time and intensity and further toughening tissues. Making little to no progress, making future gains harder and any decon break needed longer. Or you can rest, come back and make cheap and easy gains and keep repeating till you get to your goals.

I'd recommend against DLD's advice of doing a step down routine. That would be beneficial if trying to cement, but let's face it you've been stalled for a while. There is no need to cement, all this time you've been cementing but not gaining. 3 months is the conservative estimate, longer if necessary. Use the decon to learn your next plan if attack. I think I've developed a very good routine. Read through my log starting on page 50 or whenever it was I came back in June.
 
longstretch said:
I too was hesitant of incorporating regular decon breaks into my routine and even more hesitant about incorporating prolonged decon breaks. However when look back over my long PE career my best gains, including recently, have came after decon breaks. I don't mean taking a week or two off, especially if having been stalled for months, much less years!

I took others lead on taking decon breaks. And they were making consistent gains. In fact I took one before I ventured into vacuum hanging after being stalled for 2 years despite religious PE. Take 3 months off, allow your tissues to decon and come back with slightly less newbie gains, we do have diminishing returns with breaks or not.

Even DLD took 2 months off and wore tight underwear before developing SRT. I don't recommend wearing tight underwear at any time but still he took a decon.

Think about it. You can keep upping time and intensity and further toughening tissues. Making little to no progress, making future gains harder and any decon break needed longer. Or you can rest, come back and make cheap and easy gains and keep repeating till you get to your goals.

I'd recommend against DLD's advice of doing a step down routine. That would be beneficial if trying to cement, but let's face it you've been stalled for a while. There is no need to cement, all this time you've been cementing but not gaining. 3 months is the conservative estimate, longer if necessary. Use the decon to learn your next plan if attack. I think I've developed a very good routine. Read through my log starting on page 50 or whenever it was I came back in June.
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LS,
Let me start by saying that I REALLY appreciate the in depth response and the time it took, it’s great that people will still go out of their way to help others. I read though pages of your log and your theories seem sound based on the links you provided. I think I’m sold on taking an extended decon break. Just a couple questions for you.
What exercises do you think would be wise to continue during my break or should I rest completely? I am thinking on the conservative side I could still edge, do kegels and angion method occasionally. With a more aggressive approach still do some manual stretching and light extending. I know it’s not a proven science yet, I’d just like your opinion. I really just want to lose as little as possible.
Also when starting back do you think it wise to jump in at a higher workout intensity than a beginner routine as I literally gained nothing until I ramped up the intensity quite a bit. Even then it was a very slow and arduous process for me, never gaining more than an 1/8 in 3 months.
Can you clarify your routine that you followed for your first “month on”? Were you only working out 2 days a week? I didn’t work out this morning and have pretty much wrapped my mind around not doing PE for the months to come. Lastly, ow did you come up with the 3 month suggestion? What are your thoughts on it, should it be more, do you think the benefit would be greater or could I get away with a shorter break?
Thanks in advance for your reply
-MD
 
You are correct I did take 2 to 3 months off to prove the SRT theory worked. In order for me to speak on this I need to put myself through this compression and suppression.
 
3 months is how long it takes for the remodeling process to be mostly done in collagenous fibers. Upon that science that's where that number has came from, however I think after your long break if you schedule in regular decon breaks say a month or 2 you can get by with that. I'm currently experimenting with a one month on and one month off now. In your case I'd keep stretching out of your routine, no active PE. Kegels and Angion Method should be fine.

You would need a higher intensity routine than newbie but think of progressive overload. It should be reduced where it can still start the growth process and reduced enough where you could slowly add to it to continue the growth process.

Last campaign and next one starting in 2 week's will be 1 day on and 1 to 3 off. I average around 3 days on per week. Doesn't sound like much but I make those days count and take BPSFL throughout day. You can actually track the strain percent that day and I aim for 2% or more. For instance I start the day at 21.5 cm BPSFL and after all my pe work I end up at 22.0 cm. That's a strain of 2.32%. Too much science and info to go over here but I believe that's been enough for gains. When those gains start to stall for you take a decon. It's amazing because you can start to objectively see when you need a break.

That's why my current routine is setup the way it is. I've built it so everything has a purpose. To progress through the strain curve
 
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longstretch said:
3 months is how long it takes for the remodeling process to be mostly done in collagenous fibers. Upon that science that's where that number has came from, however I think after your long break if you schedule in regular decon breaks say a month or 2 you can get by with that. I'm currently experimenting with a one month on and one month off now. In your case I'd keep stretching out of your routine, no active PE. Kegels and Angion Method should be fine.

You would need a higher intensity routine than newbie but think of progressive overload. It should be reduced where it can still start the growth process and reduced enough where you could slowly add to it to continue the growth process.

Last campaign and next one starting in 2 week's will be 1 day on and 1 to 3 off. I average around 3 days on per week. Doesn't sound like much but I make those days count and take BPSFL throughout day. You can actually track the strain percent that day and I aim for 2% or more. For instance I start the day at 21.5 cm BPSFL and after all my pe work I end up at 22.0 cm. That's a strain of 2.32%. Too much science and info to go over here but I believe that's been enough for gains. When those gains start to stall for you take a decon. It's amazing because you can start to objectively see when you need a break.

That's why my current routine is setup the way it is. I've built it so everything has a purpose. To progress through the strain curve
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The strain curve makes sense and gives me more to research now that I’ll have my hands free ?

I’m on day 2 with no working out, my flaccid is already softening up, which is nice. I took measurements and will post the changes after the break.

I plan on doing PE November 20th. Gives me some time to come up with a good routine. Until then I plan on returning to my morning fasted cardio and focusing on my diet and exercise plan again, I’ve been slacking this year. Somewhere between running a business, raising a family and pulling on my dong 3+ hours a day, my gym routine slipped.

Thanks guys
 
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MegalaDong said:
The strain curve makes sense and gives me more to research now that I’ll have my hands free ?

I’m on day 2 with no working out, my flaccid is already softening up, which is nice. I took measurements and will post the changes after the break.

I plan on doing PE November 20th. Gives me some time to come up with a good routine. Until then I plan on returning to my morning fasted cardio and focusing on my diet and exercise plan again, I’ve been slacking this year. Somewhere between running a business, raising a family and pulling on my dong 3+ hours a day, my gym routine slipped.

Thanks guys
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You are welcome! As we help you also we ask is that you help others. God bless my brother
 
Man, breaks are boring. Taking time off is harder than I thought it would be. Just been doing a shit ton of kegels and working on my stamina.
I’ve also been trying to master the MMO so far without much success. I am getting much more comfortable with riding the edge without ejaculation though. I am able to relax my pelvic floor for pretty much as long as I want. Now I just need to figure out how to separate the orgasm from ejaculation. If anyone has any little gems for me I’d appreciate it.
 
MegalaDong said:
Man, breaks are boring. Taking time off is harder than I thought it would be. Just been doing a shit ton of kegels and working on my stamina.
I’ve also been trying to master the MMO so far without much success. I am getting much more comfortable with riding the edge without ejaculation though. I am able to relax my pelvic floor for pretty much as long as I want. Now I just need to figure out how to separate the orgasm from ejaculation. If anyone has any little gems for me I’d appreciate it.
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Keep keeping your head in the game! Soon you will be ?, your doing what you can for now and that is fine. Search through all the files on the Paysite that is now open to the public for free! www.mattersofsize.com/access
 
Well, it's not about the equipment, fancy exercises or methods that get us the gains, but a consistent, realistic, and dedicated mindset

The reason why allot don't gain or give up, is not down to the methods, equipment, methology of training, but because they can't grasp the simplicity of this.

I don't want to be patronizing, cos I ain't, but this really is as easy and simple as going to the gym, but to see something, just like at a gym you need the same mindset otherwise those fitness goals never arrived.

Too much, penis enlargement is made over complex

Exercise, doesn't need to be fancy or exotic.
Basics, and use a force that is intense enough to take you outside a comfort zone.

Every few days just take a rest.

Girth always use the best erection you can.

Don't overthink it afterwards, once a session is done, you've left the gym.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
Well, it's not about the equipment, fancy exercises or methods that get us the gains, but a consistent, realistic, and dedicated mindset

The reason why allot don't gain or give up, is not down to the methods, equipment, methology of training, but because they can't grasp the simplicity of this.

I don't want to be patronizing, cos I ain't, but this really is as easy and simple as going to the gym, but to see something, just like at a gym you need the same mindset otherwise those fitness goals never arrived.

Too much, penis enlargement is made over complex

Exercise, doesn't need to be fancy or exotic.
Basics, and use a force that is intense enough to take you outside a comfort zone.

Every few days just take a rest.

Girth always use the best erection you can.

Don't overthink it afterwards, once a session is done, you've left the gym.
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Excellent response! ❤️
 
REDZULU2003 said:
Well, it's not about the equipment, fancy exercises or methods that get us the gains, but a consistent, realistic, and dedicated mindset

The reason why allot don't gain or give up, is not down to the methods, equipment, methology of training, but because they can't grasp the simplicity of this.

I don't want to be patronizing, cos I ain't, but this really is as easy and simple as going to the gym, but to see something, just like at a gym you need the same mindset otherwise those fitness goals never arrived.

Too much, penis enlargement is made over complex

Exercise, doesn't need to be fancy or exotic.
Basics, and use a force that is intense enough to take you outside a comfort zone.

Every few days just take a rest.

Girth always use the best erection you can.

Don't overthink it afterwards, once a session is done, you've left the gym.
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What? I’m confused? I have gained less than 1/8” in a year so... I’m taking a break as suggested by longstretch with logical explanation.
Like the gym, I am having more trouble with taking the time off than the regimen of the exercises. If anything I tend to overdo stuff with intensity and/or duration.
I’m unsure where your response came from?
 
It came from what you posted "anyone has any little gems for me I’d appreciate it"

So I put down some wisdom, nothing personal.
 
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Last couple weeks have been interesting working my way towards the MMO. And retaining my semen. I have been edging about 5 days a week, often twice a day. The first round I made it 10 days, just very slight orgasms during this time. Until I lost it with the wife, that one was pretty intense.
Today is my 7th day since the last ejaculation. This week has gone much better, more intense O’s with more of a whole body experience. I’m trying to move the orgasm through the body, mostly up the spine and through the head. Sounded a little intrinsically hippie at first but I’ll be damned if it’s not working. Supposedly you can “transmute the orgasm” into creative energy.
Last night we had sex again, I had 2 powerful orgasms without ejaculation, big step ??
I did have a couple drinks which helps with my control but pretty amazing still. She is very supportive and pretty blown away by this whole thing.
Side note; my EQ has never been more on point and I feel more energized all day.
 
So, 1/2 way through my break and I promised an update. BPEL is down 3/8” (1/2 of my gains) and erect girth down 1/4” (disheartening because that’s where I started) but I am hopeful everything will come back quickly.
On a positive note, I have had great multiple orgasms and have far better control over ejaculation than previously. I edge daily for 20 to 40 minutes typically without a problem, I have had a couple incidences where I lost it, but getting better all the time.
 
longstretch said:
In my experience anything lost is gained back very quick. I took almost 2 years off and lost 1/4 inch which I gained back in 2 weeks.
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The same with myself and with every other brother that I know that is taking a short break lost temporary gains and made them back within two weeks upon starting again.
 
So I made it 12 days without ejac. Easily the longest stretch since I started ejaculating. MMO’s have been far and few between with very weak intensity.
When I finally did let go it was like a rocket, shot literally 4+ feet and was the most I’ve ever seen. It was ridiculous and I’m gonna start filling back up!
Under a month left till I start back up, broke down and ordered an LG hanger. Excited to get back after it ??
 
MegalaDong said:
So I made it 12 days without ejac. Easily the longest stretch since I started ejaculating. MMO’s have been far and few between with very weak intensity.
When I finally did let go it was like a rocket, shot literally 4+ feet and was the most I’ve ever seen. It was ridiculous and I’m gonna start filling back up!
Under a month left till I start back up, broke down and ordered an LG hanger. Excited to get back after it ??
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Congratulations my brother what an incredible feat, 12 days is a long time and you can continue to build on that which will help increase EQ. It also teaches us a great lesson in discipline.
 
Giving thanks today... my 3 month decon is up and I’m back at it! Just did my first sets with the LG, 10 minutes at 5lbs and 20 minutes at 6lbs, now in the SG for the next hour or so.
Going to try and get a couple evening sets in as well depending on how sore I feel in a few hours.
 
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Giving thanks today... my 3 month decon is up and I’m back at it! Just did my first sets with the LG, 10 minutes at 5lbs and 20 minutes at 6lbs, now in the SG for the next hour or so.
Going to try and get a couple evening sets in as well depending on how sore I feel in a few hours.
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Great day to give thanks! I like the routine. Be sure to get a set of Bundled Stretches before you start your routine to prepare the tunica to take on more size. Pre-stretching the tunica makes gaining length and girth much faster.
 
Perfection! I am very happy with this routine, I think you will do very well. I’ll be here every day to check up.
 
thanks guys!
This morning I edged for 30 minutes with erect kegels and 5, 1 minute sets of angion.

My plan is every other day. Just keep adding 5 minutes a morning onto my second set until I reach 45 minutes (hour total hang time) Then add a pound, drop to 25 minutes and repeat.

What do you guys think?
Other things I’ve tossed around is every other day length/girth or morning length, evening girth...
What I landed on trying is 1 month length, 1 month girth every other day on both. I just prefer a more aggressive/ consistent routine... but I haven’t gotten any quick gains from that in the past.
I think longstretch might be on to something with the extended decon break and less is more restart approach. Time will tell!
 
Looking good my brother and your consistency is awesome, keep up the good work in some serious growth is coming your way.
 
Thursday;
Edge, 5, 1 minute sets angion and some erect kegels. Also pulled off a DO. ?
Friday morning;
Woke up WAY early
Red light warm (cause I had lots of time)
Bundled stretch’s L/R 2ea about 1min ea
Hang 15 min @ 5lb
Hang 30 min @ 6.25lb ( had a pause for slipping issues)
15 minutes extender
Edge for 20, shower
1.5 hours in the extender
Silicone sleeve for....? However long
Happy Friday all
 
Very good update you deserve a very relaxing weekend. Very proud of the job you’re doing.
 
Relax... pshh.
saturday;
Edge angion, erect kegels 25 minutes total.
sex sat night, maybe 20 minutes, no ejac
Sunday;
Very little privacy, so I used the extender about 4 hours
A couple 10 minute edging sessions with some SSJ’s mixed in.
sex Sunday night, awesome orgasm w/ ejac
Monday;
Back to the routine
Bundled stretch
Hang 15min @ 5lb
35 min @ 6.25lb
Extender for 1.5 hours, just north of 8.5 BPSFL at the end...
sleeve till lunch
 
Night set;
30 minutes extender
Bundled stretch’s 1 minute each way
Hang 35min @ 6.25lbs (happening now)
Extender for 1 hour
 
Excellent work my brother and it sounds like it’s jiving really good with your schedule. It’s so important to have a realistic work out that you can stay consistent with. I look forward to your growth.
 
Usual morning madness;
Bundled stretch’s
15min @ 5lb , last minute threw in some bundle
40min @ 6.25lb
Extender for an hour
Sleeve

My original plan was to up the weight when I reach 45 minutes but I’m thinking about continuing to up the time instead. Thoughts?
 
MegalaDong said:
Usual morning madness;
Bundled stretch’s
15min @ 5lb , last minute threw in some bundle
40min @ 6.25lb
Extender for an hour
Sleeve

My original plan was to up the weight when I reach 45 minutes but I’m thinking about continuing to up the time instead. Thoughts?
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I would go for an increase in weight opposed to a longer session. It just makes more sense so if you can handle a heavier load you’re going to make much better growth.
 
Okie doke, I’ll stick to the original game plan then!
This morning;
bundled stretch’s 2min
15min @ 5lb
45min @ 6.25lb
Extender (around 2 hours)
Sleeve....
 
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Morning;
started just under 8.25 BPSFL
Finished just over 8.5
That’s a little more than 3% on longstetchs strain curve which about where it should be.

extend 6-8 minutes
Hang 10min @ 5lb
Hang 30min @ 7.5lb
Extender for a couple and then into the sleeve
 
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Night set;
Started 8.3 BPSFL
ended 8.54
2.9% strain

extender 40 minutes
Bundled stretch’s 2 minutes
Hang 30min @ 7.5lbs
Extender 30 minutes
 
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Thanks DLD!
night set
Start BPSFL 8.3
Finish 8.6
3.6% strain

20 minutes extender increasing tension every 5 minutes
Hang 5min @ 5lb
Hang 39min @ 7.25lb
Extender 30min while cooling down

notes: I have been using a rice sock and a small space heater to stay as warm as possible throughout my workouts.
next week I plan to go to 4 days/ week (mon/tues, thurs/fri) hanging, I have been doing 3 (mon/wed/fri)
 
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