Mel Gibson's verbal tirade

[Kal-el]

From what I understand, good ole Mel was speeding drunk, got stopped, and when told that he's not getting off with a warning, had a coniption fit, and frantically started spewing anti-semetic remarks.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283327,00.html

This guy just showed his true colors. His dad is known as a holocaust denier. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I know Mel apologized, but in all seriousness, I know when I'm drunk, I have no inhibitions, that's when you're true feelings come out.

 

[TomdW]

Let me get this straight. He got drunk and then got stopped for speeding. Now this might just be me but I'm pretty sure that in that situation I'd be pretty pissed off.

What he said was inconsiderate and wrong but hold on. Anyone heard of freedom of speach?

Just imagine how many people in the world there are that say, let alone do much, much worse things than this on a daily basis. And now Mel Gibson gets angry and says some dumb stuff and all of a sudden he's a demon.

Typical.

If every word I have said to anyone was scrutinised like this then I'd probably have been on death row long ago.

And just before someone replies saying that he has a responsibility to the public to 'be nice' well, I just don't buy it. He is an actor and a director (and a very, very good one) but that doesn't mean that he should be hounded and watched for the slightest slip up. I think the deputy sheriffs are much more in the wrong simply for going to the press with this.

How pathetic and hurtful is that? I'm sure it will effect him much more than his comments hurt them.

This is a pile of BS!!!

 

[Kal-el]

Well in all actuality, if he was a regular John Q Public and did this, no one would bat an eyelash. He'd just be another racist. But he's a public figure, what kinda example is this little coniption fit gonna send? The fact that he gives monetary donations to his dad's white power organization, and said on tv nontheless, that his own wife is going to hell, and the fact that in the movie the passion, he practically placed the blame on the Jews for Christ's death, it's no suprise he finally came out of the closet as a racist. I guess he forgot that his very own messiah was a Jew? I think Mel Gibson is a piece of ****, and deserves to burn in his fictional hell with all of the Jews that started all the wars (like all the ones they had NOTHING to do with).

 

[Kal-el]

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/39662/

Mel Gibson, director of Jesus gore-fest The Passion of the Christ, was pulled over for drunk driving early Friday morning, launching almost immediately into a Jew-hating tirade of, well, biblical proportions.


"F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

In addition he threatened to...

fuck the officer several times, snapped at a female officer, "What do you think you're looking at, sugar tits?", bragged that he "owns Malibu" and that he "will spend all of his money to 'get even' with me," according to Deputy James Mee's report.

 

[TomdW]

Am I the only one that can see the funny side of this?

 

[Kal-el]

Am I the only one that can see the funny side of this?

Definetly not, I also think it's really funny. If it was anyone else, I'd probably wouldn't even pay it any attention, but Mel claims to be "Holy" and sincere in his religious beliefs, too bad he's a f'n hypocrite.

Edit: if it's true, which I doubt, and the Jews really do run Hollywood, Gibson better be able to suck a golfball through a gardenhose, or else you can put a fork in his career.

 

[prince Albert]

Definetly not, I also think it's really funny. If it was anyone else, I'd probably wouldn't even pay it any attention, but Mel claims to be "Holy" and sincere in his religious beliefs, too bad he's a f'n hypocrite.

Edit: if it's true, which I doubt, and the Jews really do run Hollywood, Gibson better be able to suck a golfball through a gardenhose, or else you can put a fork in his career.

I would say they do run hollywood,just look at the surnames of the producers of big budgets movies.

 

[TomdW]

I would say that they run a lot more than just Hollywood. Hence the U.S's aid for Israel.

 

[Kal-el]

Yea, and the fact that Hollywood refused to finance "Passion of the Christ", so the bigot financed it himself.

 

[TomdW]

Yea, and the fact that Hollywood refused to finance "Passion of the Christ", so the bigot financed it himself.

Well, good for him. Freedom of speach, freedom of opinion and freedom of expression.

Actually I thought it was a fantastic movie in all.

 

[Kal-el]

Well, good for him. Freedom of speach, freedom of opinion and freedom of expression.

Actually I thought it was a fantastic movie in all.

Yea I thought that was a noble move, as for the movie, it was a big sucess, so that goes to show that the public lines Gibson's wallet, so yes, he's under a microscope. He sold his ideas and religion to everyone, and they ate it all up, so he must live up to the image he made of himself.

 

[TomdW]

Yea I thought that was a noble move, as for the movie, it was a big sucess, so that goes to show that the public lines Gibson's wallet, so yes, he's under a microscope. He sold his ideas and religion to everyone, and they ate it all up, so he must live up to the image he made of himself.

How about this. He put out some ideas in the form of art. Whether or not people take it is up to them but by no means should that entitle them to put his entire life under the microscope.

It's about the art not the artist and in my opinion this misunderstanding is a reflection of where modern society is getting it very wrong. People tend to become almost obsessed with the person, be it actor, musician, artist, spiritual leader, etc, as opposed to seeing the art or message in and of itself.

Oh one more thing. The collective public line everyones wallet. There is no lining of any wallet that is not done by the public.



Edit: Man I always know with you that I'm going to get a real discussion. LOL

 

[Pandora]

Hahahah Mel Gibson is Bad Ass Freedom!!!!!!

 

[Kal-el]

How about this. He put out some ideas in the form of art. Whether or not people take it is up to them but by no means should that entitle them to put his entire life under the microscope.

It's about the art not the artist and in my opinion this misunderstanding is a reflection of where modern society is getting it very wrong. People tend to become almost obsessed with the person, be it actor, musician, artist, spiritual leader, etc, as opposed to seeing the art or message in and of itself.

Oh one more thing. The collective public line everyones wallet. There is no lining of any wallet that is not done by the public.

Gibson must answer to the public because it is the public who lines their wallets with cash. If not for the public, Gibson wouldn't be where he is today. Why do you think he was so quick to apologize? He needs the public's approval. They are PUBLIC figures. They use their position to use the public for their own personal gain. So yes, they have to answer to the public. If they don't like that, they can go get a nine to five job in an office or clean toilets for a living.

A 2004 ABC interview:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206228,00.html

"To be anti-Semitic is a sin," he said. "It's been condemned by one Papal Council after another. To be anti-Semitic is to be un-Christian, and I'm not."

Friday:

"F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

Can you say hypocrite?

Edit: Man I always know with you that I'm going to get a real discussion. LOL

Yea, I'm quite the opinionated pe'er, but I just heard Mel's working on another documentary about the holocaust. I wonder if in it he's going to deny it happened?

 

[More Meat]

He's just another super religious weirdo. Blame and condemnation is a big part of religion, whether they like to admit it or not, and ol' Mel has a scapegoat. He's a fucking loser and is getting what he deserves for being an obnoxious prick- if only all dumbass racists could be publicly embarrest for what they say or the retarded beliefs they hold. Now, Im not saying that freedom of speech is bad in any way, he has the right just like anyone else to say whatever he wants. But, I also believe in the right to get your ass beat for being a douchebag, in hopes of maybe changing terrible, destructive behavior.

 

[Duppi_Krizzle]

I feel that when Gibson said "the Jews" he meant to say "the Zionists" or "the Elite Jews". You see there are different types of Jews.

The small elite that control the majority and think they speak for the majority. These are the people you see turning up in high places of power (bankers, presidents, oil tycoons etc..) reason being is because evil people seek power. If you want to do evil and not get caught you must elevate yourself to the highest pedestal. Which is why one can never trust their government.

Side issue though. He was drunk and what he said was true but he broadened the term and is being demonized for it.

Did you know Israel is one of the biggest exporters of Ecstacy?

Did you know Israel is a big exporter of Snuff films (executions on tape)?

Did you know Israel profits in the billions each year from white slavery?

But that is not saying Jews are bad. I am just tired of how if you expose anything criminal that is Jewish you are anti-semite when Jewish people will tell you themselves that the Zionist speak for them. You know the ones who are into all of this weird shit.

 

[franz]

...
Did you know Israel is one of the biggest exporters of Ecstacy?

Did you know Israel is a big exporter of Snuff films (executions on tape)?

To the first statement: The jewish mafia from Israel and GUS is at the moment authorized by the CIA to import the lot of the MDMA ("extasy") into the USA (produced in the netherlands/Belgium/England). Thats about the same as the licenses given to heroin importers - lately the Taliban now more Paksitan "freedom fighter" (before the "golden triangle - ever heard about "Air America" fuckers?).

To the second statement:Thats just bullshit. Any decent jew hater can come up with better then this, be ashamed.

 

[franz]

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[MAXAMEYES]

What cracks me up about this incident is that people are forgetting who they're dealing with and ignoring the salient point of the incident.
First the ludicrous:
1. Mel Gibson...drinking !?! Who'da thunk it, huh?
2. Drunk Mel Gibson acting like a wild man !?! (see above)
3. A drunk wild man pulled over for DUI spouting off ridiculous, regrettable bullshit !?! (insert conniption here)

But the real crime here is the sheriff's department attempting to sanitize something which is, and should be, a matter of public record.

Everybody (with a clue at least) expects a raging alky to make a fool of themselves, that's kinda fun to watch, actually.
But elected/appointed officials falsifying records, for whatever motivation; that's criminal.

 

[penguinsfan]

he practically placed the blame on the Jews for Christ's death,

Well...that's what actually happened if you accept the Biblical account of history, which I know you don't. To portray it as anything else would be washing the story for political correctness.

That being said, to hold the Jewish population or faith accountable for it is asinine. The Christian community as a whole does not do this and anyone that does is just expressing some fringe idea.

Sadly, yes, Gibson does appear to be someone different than what we would have hoped.

 

[Kal-el]

Well...that's what actually happened if you accept the Biblical account of history, which I know you don't. To portray it as anything else would be washing the story for political correctness.

First of all, it's not proven, so it's not history, it's mythology. Second, the Romans were directly responsible for Christ's death.

That being said, to hold the Jewish population or faith accountable for it is asinine. The Christian community as a whole does not do this and anyone that does is just expressing some fringe idea.

Agreed.

Sadly, yes, Gibson does appear to be someone different than what we would have hoped.

Haha, that's sugar-coating it a little bit, don't ya think? He's just another loudmouth, rascist redneck that happened to make it big.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Slightly off the subject, but...

What I could never figure out about the religious zealots throughout history who blamed the Jews for killing Jesus, (like good ol' Mr. Gibson) was, what do they think the alternative should have been?
God's entire purpose for Christ was for him to be the world's savior, was it not?
And the only way he could do it was to be resurected from the grave, correct?
And the only way to become resurrected was to have first died, right?
So even if the blame for Jesus' "death" rests fully on the Jews, weren't they simply following God's plan?
And if that truly was his complete intent and purpose, set in motion from the Creation, then how in the flyin' blue fuck could mere piss-ant human beings ever do otherwise?

Suppose they didn't nail him up; then there would, in fact, BE no Christian religion.

So why all this twitch & froth hatred throughtout history
from the radical fringe of Christianity towards the Jews...for making their entire religion possible in the first place?
There's gratitude for ya!

And if it weren't his own race and religion who was supposed to provide God's plan, (which, according to scripture, was meant for Jews first and gentiles next, then "the other sheep"), then who do these people think SHOULD have "killed" Jesus? The Amish? Girl Scouts?
Avon ladies?

People like Mel...I'd like to hear what their version of the world would be like if Jesus had never been nailed to that cross, 'cuz that's about the only alternative.

 

[Kal-el]

Well, Jesus was a Jew, and exterminating Jews seems to be the pastime of the past 2,000 years. But in all seriousness, before we argue about who and why he was killed, it shouldn't be assumed that he even existed. To me, it's kind of funny arguing this, it's kinda like arguing if Batman lives in a cave or not.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Well, to paraphrase Voltaire, "If Jesus hadn't existed, it would be necessary for man to have invented him".
Even if the MAN was mythical, there's no ignoring the effects the CONCEPT of Christ has had on the world.

P.S. Being the instigator that I am, from time to time; I was hoping to really stir up a good debate. I've been getting mentally lazy lately and needed a boost.

 

[Kal-el]

Well, to paraphrase Voltaire, "If Jesus hadn't existed, it would be necessary for man to have invented him".

That's correct. Humans so much want to believe that they have a greater purpose; that there's more to living life and dying and that's it, hence the mythological Jesus.

Even if the MAN was mythical, there's no ignoring the effects the CONCEPT of Christ has had on the world.

In all seriousness, Hitler had a great effect, as did Elvis. The concept of Jesus was probably just a theft from the concept of the Egyptian God/man Mithra. The reason why Christianity has become so popular is Christianity was a religion sanctioned and enforced by the Roman Empire. It was exported to all of Rome's territories where it was forced on the people who lived there. Christianity also "stole" nearly everything it has from previous religions, so there was something for everybody. It was engineered in such a way that many people could convert without feeling like they were abandoning or blaspheming their former religions. Christianity is not blessed with some kind of baffling, enigmatic supernatural power, it was designed to do what it has done, that's all.

P.S. Being the instigator that I am, from time to time; I was hoping to really stir up a good debate. I've been getting mentally lazy lately and needed a boost.

That's cool, you're not the only one who is an instigator and likes a good debate.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Just another thought, slightly farther off subject, is this one.
The basic message of Christianity, or I should say Jesus, is pretty simple and damn effective:

Treat people right.

That's about it. Take care of your responsibilities, a little self-sacrifice, a little self-control, don't fuck-up when the liberty's good.
All the rest, just like he said; is commentary.
Just how badly it's been fucked up over the centuries just goes to show how people can screw anything up through greed, corruption and power lust.

See, one of the big differences 'tween you and me is that I truly Believe that a guy named Jesus lived a coupla thousand years ago and he put down some pretty good info, it's just that his message has been perverted so horrendously that it bears little resemblance to the original.

There's a growing body of evidence that Jesus traveled extensively throughout Asia and much of his teaching was Buddhist in nature. Until it got hijacked.

If I remember, I'll look for some info about an entire town in Japan that claims direct descendence from Jesus. Who knows.
For me, on one hand there's faith and spirituality which'll help all of us get along better and might even provide a clue.
And then there's religion. Which tries to run your life for you and pretty soon, sustaining its own existence becomes of the utmost importance instead of human beings.

I think ol' Mel and far, far too many others like him would like to run our lives for us...while they go about their own business...that you and I shouldn't pay any attention to.

 

[Pandora]

spirituality Hydromaxm yes agreed Girly Man

 

[Kal-el]

Just another thought, slightly farther off subject, is this one.
The basic message of Christianity, or I should say Jesus, is pretty simple and damn effective:

Treat people right.

Yea, that should be the message, but sadly that's not the case. If not for Christianity (or any other diestic religion), we wouldn't have had the Massacres of Indian Independence (1947, Hindu vs. Muslim) , Thirty years war (Christians, Catholics vs Protestants, Germany 1618-1648), the Albigensian Crusade (13 century, Christians killing heterics), or the Crusades, Christians vs Muslims to find the tomb of Christ, the Russian Pogroms, Sri Lanka, Sudanese Civil war, the teutonic Knights' crusades, right down to present day al-Qaeada. In every conflict mentioned, people sliced eachother up over some supernatural diety. The message might indeed be to treat people right, but too many are focused on the messanger, opposed to the actual message.

Just how badly it's been fucked up over the centuries just goes to show how people can screw anything up through greed, corruption and power lust.

Agreed.

See, one of the big differences 'tween you and me is that I truly Believe that a guy named Jesus lived a coupla thousand years ago and he put down some pretty good info, it's just that his message has been perverted so horrendously that it bears little resemblance to the original.

There could have "possibly" been a man named Jesus, but that name was common in that time period. I think if a man held sermons with hundreds of people in attendance it would be documented.

There's a growing body of evidence that Jesus traveled extensively throughout Asia and much of his teaching was Buddhist in nature. Until it got hijacked.

By all means, show me so I can give it a once over.

If I remember, I'll look for some info about an entire town in Japan that claims direct descendence from Jesus.

I never heard this little tidbit either. Do show info.

For me, on one hand there's faith and spirituality which'll help all of us get along better and might even provide a clue.

Are you serious???? Get along better???? C'mon because of your skydaddy's command in the bible to kill witches, many midwives were burned as witches in the 1600s. Down to present, people are always willing to strap bombs to their chest in order to access some fictional "heaven". I think the world would be much better off if mankind never invented the idea of a god.

And then there's religion. Which tries to run your life for you and pretty soon, sustaining its own existence becomes of the utmost importance instead of human beings.

Tienes razòn. You are correct.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Hey Kal, I'll keep looking for the Asian and Buddhist info I was talkin' about. And I think you kinda got a different perspective on faith and spirituality than what I was puttin' out.
For me, and what I meant, was that these things have nothing whatsoever to do with any form of religion, worship or dogma. But they have everything to do with Man's interconnectedness with fellow Man and our places in the Universe, both individually and collectively.

Faith is what keeps you talking to your loved one while they lay in a coma.
Faith is what keeps you working to provide your kids with a better future than what your past had been, and then you have faith that your kids'll turn out fine and appreciate all your hard work... eventually.
Faith is what gets you up outta bed every morning to go to that fucking job you can't stand because you're going to attain your goals, no matter what.

Faith is simple basic things too.
You have faith that your alarm clock's gonna work every morning.
You have faith that no drunk driver's gonna wipe yer ass off the planet as you drive to work.
You have faith that the dumb-ass kid that made your burger for lunch didn't hawk a loogie under de cheese.

And spirituality, for me, is simply recognizing that little old rock number three here, and our universe around that, is so much more vast, ancient and beautiful than anything we ever could have conceived of, yet we are an integral part of it.
That we humans are more than just walking meat sacks.
That there is much more to life than mere existence, although far too many people have forgotten that, unfortunately.

In my belief, we are spiritual beings having a material experience. And if you go back far enough and deep enough the vast majority of the worlds ancient religions started off that way before they got corrupted by human greed.

Jesus' message was real simple at the beginning; your buddy falls down? Pick him up.
Y'see somebody that's hungry? Feed him. Guy's cold? Give him your jacket. But also if you're cold, hungry and falling down drunk then y'need to dig yer head outta your ass and get on the ball. And if you see somebody abusing their power or privilege: Kick dey ass!

Like I said before it all boils down to :Treat people right.

&

To Pandora: I say to you once again, Girlie Man!

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Here's a couple of links to star ya off.
( hope this shit works!)

1.http://www.mimbres.com/holp/holpath/budd1225.htm
2.http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/jesus.htm
3.http://buddhistfaith.tripod.com/pureland_sangha/id59.html
4.http://www.thiaoouba.com/tomb.htm
5.http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm
This next one's pretty cool
6.http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm
This one is cool too
7.http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/chinamum/taklamakan.html

And this one's just for shit 'n' grins
8.http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html

Even though it's "the internet" I've been following a few of these story lines for a couple of decades now,,,
ENJOY !

 

[Juggers]

Some words if you all don't mind....

I want to, if possible, relate faith (in this case the Christian faith) to Penis Enlargement and even to these forums.

A man feels he has a small penis...so he surfs the internets and finds a very comprehensive website with an extremely large forum. Alas! The man finds what he thought could not be possible...All the criticism of science, doctors, his friends, tv...every opposition is irrelevant at this point...he has plenty of reason to believe that this Penis Enlargement stuff works...hes never done it before but because he sees 50000 plus people are doing it and reads about the testimonials, hes sold. So he orders lube, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words], the penis pills, even pumps and weights...he wants them all. So the man gets into a routine posted by the one and only DLD, not really sure what hes doing to himself on a technical level, but he has (faith) that the man with the 10.5 inch dong is telling the truth and that he knows what hes talking about.
Months later after taking many breaks and suffering some common Penis Enlargement injuries, the man has made his first gain. Of course, he is ecstatic. He cant believe that this crap actually works. So excited, he decides to tell his bar-buddies about it, but all they can do is bash it, "oh I've tried doing that stuff it doesn't work...all I got was red spots and some pain"....his friend replying "no no no, you gotta do it right...you gotta stick with it to see gains my man!"...but still his friend chooses not to believe him.


OK how does this relate to faith and all that stuff..well...Lets say that instead of the man having a small penis, he has a crappy life where he is nearly poor, his wife died, and his dog blew up. At this point he feels he has no reason to live anymore so he wants to die but knows there has to be a better way...he refuses to believe his wife lived in vain as well as his dog. So, the man does some soul searching, trying different religions but they just don't answer his questions and help him. The man finds soon enough that he needs to have "faith" in order to believe and follow God. He has to trust in something that he cannot see and possibly not fully understand. Just like Penis Enlargement, he has to trust that what he is doing even though he isn't getting gains right away. When he does start to believe in this faith, he notices he is happier and is filled with joy and a purpose, and naturally that's good for him so he wants to share it with people (just like his testimony with Penis Enlargement).

In short, and this is to you Kal-el, the bad will follow the good. So, some people have had injuries with Penis Enlargement, some people bash Penis Enlargement and stopped doing it, some people have other methods they use that you've never used and don't know even work or not. Just because this is, does not make Penis Enlargement bad or unreal. That never stopped you from doing Penis Enlargement right? You kept on going because you had faith it would work and you may have seen gains. Just like in the Christian life when prayers are answered and miracles happen. Just because people have killed over Christianity, or God has killed people (that He created mind you) it doesn't mean that it is fake or bad...any one can give something a wrong name. Its the person or people who are wrong. It all boils down to faith, and wanting to believe. Its through our testimony how we get people to believe...either in Penis Enlargement or religion, you have to have faith...But it seems all you want to do is argue or debate...when you can't prove that God does not exist and I can't prove he exists. Almost every prayer I have ever said has come through, almost like a miracle. Believe it or not.

I know you're probably going to mutilate my every word to find fault so have funrofl

 

[Pandora]

To Pandora: I say to you once again, Girlie Man!

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[MAXAMEYES]

Y'know, Pandora, between you and BTC yer gonna make me upgrade from dial-up if it kills me.

And

People can bash Arnold all they want, but I've gotten a fukkin' kick outta that guy for decades. Matter of fact I was doing Arnold stand-up back in the eighties. I got a gay Arnie routine that makes grown men piss themselves.

 

[Pandora]

Y'know, Pandora, between you and BTC yer gonna make me upgrade from dial-up if it kills me.

And

People can bash Arnold all they want, but I've gotten a fukkin' kick outta that guy for decades. Matter of fact I was doing Arnold stand-up back in the eighties. I got a gay Arnie routine that makes grown men piss themselves.

Yeah Arnold is cool he allways will be lol.

ha 56k Girlie man

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Here's something so damn far off of the original subject it probably deserves its own thread...but.
For my money, just about the coolest old dude in movies is Clint Eastwood.
Guy's been around for fifty years or more and he still kicks ass.
If I could age half as well as that I'd be one happy fukkin' camper.

 

[Duppi_Krizzle]

Arnold hates the Jews and any other Minority more than Gibson...

You know how many celebs and powerful people say fucked up shit that gets quoted?

Just wonderin why Mel gets all the publicity.

 

[goinfor11x7]

What man has done in the name of "God," however he/she is perceived, is abominable!!!

Why can't we all, "Live and let live!!"--Jews, Christians, Moslems, (I don't think we have to worry about the Buddhists)--they abhor the injury of ANY sentient being!!! AND THEY DON'T JUST TALK THE TALK!! THEY WALK THE WALK!! GOD BLESS THE BUDDHISTS!!!!

The truth DOES come out when you're drunk, right? Mel Gibson has tried to make atonement for his anti-semitic statements. He's even said he's going to look at his other "dysfuncton--i.e. "anti-semitic feelings" (probably learned at his father's knees), after he gets his act together. His old man is classic--he reminds me of the leader of Iran!!! Anyone who buys the non-existence of the holocaust must hate the Jews!! If the world didn't have the Jews to blame for all its ills, what would it turn to?--i.e. that asshole in Iran!!

If they destroyed Israel and all the Jews, they'd turn to new scapegoats--i.e. the gays, gypsies, etc. anyone who is "different," just like Hitler did!!

I say FUCK RELIGION!!! IT HAS DONE MORE EVIL IN THIS WORLD!!

 

[goinfor11x7]

Regarding Arnold, he has diarrhea of the mouth. And after all, he is Austrian? in extraction. The Europeans are known for their anti-semitism!!! When I lived in Europe, not so long ago, I heard as many anti-semitic statements as I heard growing up in the good ol' U.S.A.--and believe you me, I've heard a lot of them.