Hello brotherhood.i wasnt here for a long time,probably for like 6+ months but i was doing my p.e.Many thing on my life is going great but my confidence is very very low.Long story short the last 2 years of life was a train wreck.The girlfriend i loved cheated on me i lost interest about my studies and both of my parents lost their jobs.We are ok now but still i dont have enough money(100-120$ per month for me)so thing for me the last 2 year is much tighter than it used to be,i had depression.i know welcome to the adult life.but last summer i freaked out and realise i have to make my own luck.i start going at my university everyday,studing and doing my hw,i am trying to train as much as i can,my cock is bigger,generally trying to make my self as much as i can better person and professional.But still my confidence is very low and scared when i talk to girls.I feel like i dont have the balls to do anything diffrent.My psychology is diffrent.
Anyway,If anyone can give me some tips or a nice book about confidence it would very helpfull.A friend of mine told me to read a book"how to manipulate people"
i dont remember the exact title but he told me that help him cause he knew better how to talk and behave on them.
 
We all need someone to learn a potentially better approach from.

You'll get suggestions, but often what I've found after mentoring and coaching people: you need advice and guidance that is no more than 2 steps away from where you are now.

I could give you the best information from the smartest people alive or that ever lived, but it has to be close enough to your current state that you can make the leap to it from where you are.
You get me?
So while it may be relevant and top guidance, if you can't reach it from your current mindset it's as good as a dream.
 
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Stop trying so hard with women. If you have to go through a ton of effort and pretending to be somebody you're not what is the point. They will either like your real self or not, if not move on. Being a pick up artist and getting one night stands is completely different from being a guy who is comfortable with himself and can hold a long term relationship.
 
wazedi;640537 said:
But still my confidence is very low and scared when i talk to girls.I feel like i dont have the balls to do anything diffrent.My psychology is diffrent.
Anyway,If anyone can give me some tips or a nice book about confidence it would very helpfull.A friend of mine told me to read a book"how to manipulate people"
i dont remember the exact title but he told me that help him cause he knew better how to talk and behave on them.

While doing your PE regiments, just check this seduction [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] out The Secrets to Hypnotic Seduction It's damm near free and it may help you gain an attack plan. Good luck.
 
Do you know if you may have low t levels? Wear Supras ring of power 24/7 and it will be boosted, however this is not necessary.

With women, yeah it´s scary as hell and am in my 30:s and 7 - 9 on the scale. But am getting better and better working at it, there´s a saying you fail until you succeed. Fail as much as you can until you eventually learn and then you will succeed. Root of all evil? The fear of failure/rejected, well maybe not but you get my point.

This is so classic and almost all men suffer from it when it comes to women. My confidence is low with them? Yep that´s cause you NEVER try and have not put in the required hours of learning HOW.

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Believe me no youtube videos neither books are gonna fix this. Start doing more and more daredevil things with women and build slowly, eventually you will have been embarrassed/rejected so much that the fear of failure will go away and you´ll not give a fuck. When you come to this stage please do not stop because you are so close to being successful. So there you go now you have saved money and time. This works as i´ve been rejected/embarrassed enough to know and then remember am on the correct side on the attractive scale. People have for countless centuries believed/wanna believe that there´s a holy grail (a correct/right way) for everything out there, well those people are now dead laying in the ground never finding "the secret".

Edit nr 2:

Ok, there might be a few so called holygrails out there. Don´t think, do & and with consistency.
 
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thanks for you responses.i am just sad cause i used to have a great confidence before all those things happend.now even though i look better i dont have condidence.
anyway.thanks for everything.i will do my research.i actually checked my t-level and they are very good
 
acromegaly;640543 said:
stop trying so hard with women. If you have to go through a ton of effort and pretending to be somebody you're not what is the point. They will either like your real self or not, if not move on. Being a pick up artist and getting one night stands is completely different from being a guy who is comfortable with himself and can hold a long term relationship.

true :)
 
wazedi;640548 said:
thanks for you responses.i am just sad cause i used to have a great confidence before all those things happend.now even though i look better i dont have condidence.
anyway.thanks for everything.i will do my research.i actually checked my t-level and they are very good

I feel & understand you brother. My lowest confidence periods around women have always been like something you described out of a job, not finishing studies etc etc. However the first time i really actually tried my skills with women i was somehow at the bottom not caring about my studies etc etc, i just went all black & white bipolar manic and started talking to them all of a sudden. Man i got burned, but that made my fears go away, remember fear of failure. This lead me to have a fucking awesome perception of myself despite being somehow on the bottom work, studies etc. Women started checking me out, hitting on me etc from nowhere, still not doing well in school.

About six months ago i was at a birthday party with my nice and she told me something interesting about confident men. I said WOW it does not matter if i work at mcdonalds or my waist is 10 cm to much they really do not care (women) it all comes down to HOW MY PERCEPTION OF MYSELF IS. She said yeah that´s true, what did you think silly? I thought it was how women perceived me?:( NO she said again confidence is all about how men perceive themselves... Wow i just threw away all the years between 20 and 30 believing it was theirs perception of mine that mattered>:( You see women can read you better than you think.

GOOD LUCK WITH WOMEN DO NOT BE A STUPID FUCK LIKE ME.
 
Bacheelor i think you just found out the key of my problem.Seriously i just realise that was the difference between my life 2 years before and now.i had forgot on how to love myself.you see the problem after all those things is that i am not sad but i am not happy either.i am not having fun easily anymore and i knew it was because of my confidence.i was just a silent person.when i mention girls that was just an example.when i was having huge confidence i was feeling unbeatable.i will try to gain that feel back
 
wazedi;640558 said:
Bacheelor i think you just found out the key of my problem.Seriously i just realise that was the difference between my life 2 years before and now.i had forgot on how to love myself.you see the problem after all those things is that i am not sad but i am not happy either.i am not having fun easily anymore and i knew it was because of my confidence.i was just a silent person.when i mention girls that was just an example.when i was having huge confidence i was feeling unbeatable.i will try to gain that feel back

Yep, i knew it was YOUR perception of yourself that was the problem. Now how about giving me a star so my rep power goes up:P

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Start slow as i told you Rome was not build in a day. Trying to get there (to that special happy place you´re talking about) by never doing anything CHALLENGING wont build/grow you, lets be honest here, you´ll get shit/sqat.

1. Tell a random girl that she has nice shoes, shirt, scarf whatever you think is nice then walk or say you have to go . Do this a couple of times now see that was not so dangerous now was it.

2. Do nr 1 again however now you start to build, what you build is up to you, say that she´s attractive (walk away or stand there and let things be awkward) something a little more challenging/daring than nr 1.

3. Well you get the picture:)

The OUTCOME of these steps is NOT IMPORTANT, let me say it again NOT IMPORTANT. However by doing this you will have the biggest dopamine release (google if you do not know what is is) from your body that you will ever have experienced in your life leading to you feeling awesome about yourself = Great perception about yourself = Women will find you attractive.

Do these things and you´ll live your life to your fullest potential.
 
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Confidence is all about self worth or worthiness. You can't start big in this area, you need to start small. Each night create a gratitude list, 3 things that you feel good about that have to do with you as a man. If you can't find reasons then create new goals that will help you create the list. Add to this list everyday and look it over each night. This will quickly help you guid up your worthiness and will directly effect your confidence.
 
Quoting Bacheelor .. but for the OP wazedi

the first time i really actually tried my skills with women i was somehow at the bottom not caring about my studies etc etc, i just went all black & white bipolar manic and started talking to them all of a sudden. Man i got burned, but that made my fears go away, remember fear of failure. This lead me to have a fucking awesome perception of myself despite being somehow on the bottom work, studies etc. Women started checking me out, hitting on me etc from nowhere

A great buddy of mine super liked this gal that worked across the street from his workplace. He dated quite a lot actually .. but froze up regarding this one girl because he wasn't relaxed and being himself .. he was all uptight and attaching too much ego to a desired outcome. This very reticence to ask her out would automatically subcommunicate all the wrong things in his approach and his confidence and his body language, making it seem as though he was undercalibrated for her and that he felt like, somehow, she was out of his league. If he felt like that, why shouldn't she feel like that as well?

I told him two things: one, you've gotta relax so you can be yourself, or at least not nervous. and two ... she's already NOT dating you, .. What's she going to say? 'No'?

.. If you think about it all there is .. is upside.

They're married with two kids. :)
 
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Quoting Bacheelor .. but for the OP wazedi



A great buddy of mine super liked this gal that worked across the street from his workplace. He dated quite a lot actually .. but froze up regarding this one girl because he wasn't relaxed and being himself .. he was all uptight and attaching too much ego to a desired outcome. This very reticence to ask her out would automatically subcommunicate all the wrong things in his approach and his confidence and his body language, making it seem as though he was undercalibrated for her and that he felt like, somehow, she was out of his league. If he felt like that, why shouldn't she feel like that as well?

I told him two things: one, you've gotta relax so you can be yourself, or at least not nervous. and two ... she's already NOT dating you, .. What's she going to say? 'No'?

.. If you think about it all there is .. is upside.

They're married with two kids. :)

Very insightful and true! I am so glad that your advise brought his so much joy and now children....nothing better in the world.
 
everything seems right.now i have to find a way to bring back my mojo in my life.the way i see and do things.i will work on that guys
 
wazedi;641214 said:
everything seems right.now i have to find a way to bring back my mojo in my life.the way i see and do things.i will work on that guys

Not just you believe me brother! I have been talking to a girl for a couple months now and pretty soon I will meet her in person and I am nervous as hell. She is the first girl I have dated in 8 years....I not even sure if I have any mojo:)
 
doublelongdaddy;641241 said:
Not just you believe me brother! I have been talking to a girl for a couple months now and pretty soon I will meet her in person and I am nervous as hell. She is the first girl I have dated in 8 years....I not even sure if I have any mojo:)

It will go fine, you´re Mike Salvini and there´s only one:)
Wear one of those cool hats that you have on your head in penis faq(youtube) along with one or two chains around your neck, makes you look gangsta in a good way.
 
doublelongdaddy;641241 said:
Not just you believe me brother! I have been talking to a girl for a couple months now and pretty soon I will meet her in person and I am nervous as hell. She is the first girl I have dated in 8 years....I not even sure if I have any mojo:)
Awesome, that is so cool that you're going to let yourself love again. I hope everything goes great.
 
If it's not good in real life don't stress bro. You are such a good person and I know women you date will see that too. You deserve a good woman DLD
 
acromegaly;641383 said:
If it's not good in real life don't stress bro. You are such a good person and I know women you date will see that too. You deserve a good woman DLD

Oh Thank you so much! I needed to hear this right now!
 
No worries DLD, I know sometimes we build things up in our heads too much, but for some reason I think this will be great for you. I wish you the best luck.
 
Wazedi, Low confidence is not fun, I've been through it. I ain't fun and it sure as hell ain't no walk in the park. But regardless how bad it was, I abandoned most of my low self esteem. How? I kept on pushing my comfort zone, and it worked for me.
Now I don't know what works for you, but since you're a part of the brotherhood I sincerely hope you will get over it and manage it.
I'm also only 20 years old and poor on Experience, but they say that wisdom does not come with age(they could be wrong) but I'm still gonna give you some advice.

- Push yourself sometimes. Sometimes its easy to do nothing. It's easy to just watch TV and play video games, or just hang out with friends. But don't forget to push that comfort zone sometimes. Change the rules for your own good.

- Invest in yourself. Thats how I managed it the most. I couldn't find new friends, did not study etc. So I started started working out. I then gained some 'flame' if you can call it that. And then I invested in my looks a bit. Focused on hair, cologne, clothing etc. And suddenly I was on the right track. I started Studying again and I moved out of my Moms house, gained new friend like myself. Now P.E. is the tip of the iceberg for me. Go invest my friend.

- Keep it cool. Never lose your sanity. Control yourself and remember you're doing this for you, and maybe someone else also. But It would not start, if you did not get benefits from it. Challenge yourself, but be yourself.

I hope it did not write this too late. Wish you the best, keep it real :)
 
Great advice,you fought against the things that bothered you and you beat them up,changing your habits,lifestyle,way of thinking..
 
wazedi;642164 said:
thats what i am trying to do now...small steps to be more confident and build a nice enjoyable life

Small steps is what its about, they lead to big changes. For me and my confidence it has always been a battle because I expect things to change quickly. I had to learn to be patient and take my time.
 
doublelongdaddy;642267 said:
Small steps is what its about, they lead to big changes. For me and my confidence it has always been a battle because I expect things to change quickly. I had to learn to be patient and take my time.

Well said DLD, I think we tend to focus too much on what we don't have versus what we want. Based on my life experience we need only think about what we want, never give a thought to what we do not want, while simultaneously enjoying our life or appreciating it moment by moment. Semper Fi.
 
doublelongdaddy;642267 said:
Small steps is what its about, they lead to big changes. For me and my confidence it has always been a battle because I expect things to change quickly. I had to learn to be patient and take my time.

yep exactly, the same happens to me,my mind wanted quick results n didnt happen thats why i havent been able to accomplish the goals i have,its quite frustrating but your words allowed me to know what im supposed to do,i have been emotionally hurted because of that,things cant change quickly takes time.....
 
shortdick;642316 said:
yep exactly, the same happens to me,my mind wanted quick results n didnt happen thats why i havent been able to accomplish the goals i have,its quite frustrating but your words allowed me to know what im supposed to do,i have been emotionally hurted because of that,things cant change quickly takes time.....

The biggest reason many do not accomplish their goals in life is because they have unrealistic expectations. Now, this in itself is not bad, have high expectations can be used as a good thing. If you allow yourself room for a lower goal and also implement a higher goal, shooting for the bigger goal may land you right in the smaller goal. Kind of a way to trick the mind. I guess the best way to say it is Shoot for the stars but be happy if you only get to the moon.
 
Hello brotherhood.i wasnt here for a long time,probably for like 6+ months but i was doing my p.e.Many thing on my life is going great but my confidence is very very low.Long story short the last 2 years of life was a train wreck.The girlfriend i loved cheated on me i lost interest about my studies and both of my parents lost their jobs.We are ok now but still i dont have enough money(100-120$ per month for me)so thing for me the last 2 year is much tighter than it used to be,i had depression.i know welcome to the adult life.but last summer i freaked out and realise i have to make my own luck.i start going at my university everyday,studing and doing my hw,i am trying to train as much as i can,my cock is bigger,generally trying to make my self as much as i can better person and professional.But still my confidence is very low and scared when i talk to girls.I feel like i dont have the balls to do anything diffrent.My psychology is diffrent.
Anyway,If anyone can give me some tips or a nice book about confidence it would very helpfull.A friend of mine told me to read a book"how to manipulate people"
i dont remember the exact title but he told me that help him cause he knew better how to talk and behave on them.

For me, a bigger dick gave me so much confidence but I still feel shy when I approach ladies. I drink beer to lose the shyness when I want to approach a lady for the first time.
 
Hello brotherhood.i wasnt here for a long time,probably for like 6+ months but i was doing my p.e.Many thing on my life is going great but my confidence is very very low.Long story short the last 2 years of life was a train wreck.The girlfriend i loved cheated on me i lost interest about my studies and both of my parents lost their jobs.We are ok now but still i dont have enough money(100-120$ per month for me)so thing for me the last 2 year is much tighter than it used to be,i had depression.i know welcome to the adult life.but last summer i freaked out and realise i have to make my own luck.i start going at my university everyday,studing and doing my hw,i am trying to train as much as i can,my cock is bigger,generally trying to make my self as much as i can better person and professional.But still my confidence is very low and scared when i talk to girls.I feel like i dont have the balls to do anything diffrent.My psychology is diffrent.
Anyway,If anyone can give me some tips or a nice book about confidence it would very helpfull.A friend of mine told me to read a book"how to manipulate people"
i dont remember the exact title but he told me that help him cause he knew better how to talk and behave on them.

The best thing to increase your confidence is to build it up the right way, and
not by building for example: big muscles (can help), but you need to go deep into yourself. One important aspect you are going to discover with time, is that it doesn't matter what anybody else are thinking about you (or what you think they are thinking about you).
Because the truth is that most people are mostly not focusing on you, but are focusing on themselves and many people have the same issues as you have. Just this will make you accept yourself more and become more confident in yourself. You do not longer come from a "victim" mentality but instead from a mentality of; I have great confidence in my self, my own social value and my self respect are strong. By the way, you create your own social value before you interact with people.

Nobody knows what I'm feeling deep inside. And when you concur your fears long enough, these will not be your fears any longer, to the point of looking back and not understanding why you where afraid of it in the first place, for example: Talking to women or social anxiety. Many people have some nervousness in regards to meeting new people, only with this knowledge can make you more relaxed and confident in yourself.

You can look at a person and see if they have true inner confidence, or a glued on conference. A glued on confidence is a person that try to assert oneself to everyone around them, the so called "Alpha" personality trait (even when these concepts are not valid, I'm mentioning it as a reference point). They are not just them confident in themself, but they need to prove that to other people constantly, for example by bragging, push other people down and talk a lot.

If you focus on yourself and create a confidence in what your are doing, and you do what you want, and not what anyone else want you to do then you will find your own way and confidence in yourself. You know you are doing the right thing and you will in time accomplish your goals.

Do not focus on women, women will come into your life when you are on your journey in life. Do not chase then, and do not put them on a pedestal. adult entertainment can create this for you.

You will stop to see yourself as lacking of confidence and instead see yourself as a person that can do anything he puts his mind to. I'm not limit by my past, I can create my own future.

Hope this helps.
 
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