Jesus Loves You and Me!
Testify Brother Dld! Amen!
Testify? I love God with my whole self! Jesus has saved me from a life of evil and desperation! My prayers are answered with swiftness since I ask in the order in needs to be and the way I give praise for the payers that are answered. I have converted many to the Brotherhood and the methods we use to correct and perfect ourselves. ANYONE can do this, regardless of your beliefs, this is the most divine understanding a man can have and I will give it to you in the most easy way to understand and practice. If you do this you will receive every prayer you ask for, period, no exceptions.
When Praying for Something be sure to pray in this way (this is vital)
1. Pray to Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit to present your prayers to the Father and Mother of Heaven. That simple, no more! One very important piece, never pray for yourself for anything tangible! Only pray for virtue! When praying for material things, dedicate those prayers to your friends, family and enemies! Pray for them, Jesus already knows what you want, belive me!
After Receiving the Prayer, Virtue, Gift, etc. (this is vital)
2. Give all praise to the Father and Mother, by praying to Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit to present your praise to the Father and Mother of Heaven. That simple, no more!
This is all you need to do and I promise every man here, every Brother who I would do anything for, you will be prosperous and content in all things and the favoritism God shows to those who practice these simple but powerful methods is far greater than anything we can imagine!
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] has been run by me for 10 years, I have been ordained for the same time
Over this decade miracles have happened not only for me but for all I have prayed for. We, as a Brotherhood, are already very powerful in our altruism. Once the new building is finished it will bring great praise to the Almighty and so much credibility to the Brotherhood. As I have stated many times, I carry the Brotherhood with the most delicate LOVE. I would never advocate anything that does not make the Brotherhood increase and make more prosperous!
God Bless
PS: Anyone can add the above into their routine I promise you that you will come back to me and sing praise for the gifts you will receive! Do not praise me though (as stated above, in the correct way) Praise your Father and Mother in Heaven!
When Praying for Something be sure to pray in this way (this is vital)
1. Pray to Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit to present your prayers to the Father and Mother of Heaven. That simple, no more! One very important piece, never pray for yourself for anything tangible! Only pray for virtue! When praying for material things, dedicate those prayers to your friends, family and enemies! Pray for them, Jesus already knows what you want, belive me!
After Receiving the Prayer, Virtue, Gift, etc. (this is vital)
2. Give all praise to the Father and Mother, by praying to Jesus Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit to present your praise to the Father and Mother of Heaven. That simple, no more!
This is all you need to do and I promise every man here, every Brother who I would do anything for, you will be prosperous and content in all things and the favoritism God shows to those who practice these simple but powerful methods is far greater than anything we can imagine!
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] has been run by me for 10 years, I have been ordained for the same time
Over this decade miracles have happened not only for me but for all I have prayed for. We, as a Brotherhood, are already very powerful in our altruism. Once the new building is finished it will bring great praise to the Almighty and so much credibility to the Brotherhood. As I have stated many times, I carry the Brotherhood with the most delicate LOVE. I would never advocate anything that does not make the Brotherhood increase and make more prosperous!God Bless
PS: Anyone can add the above into their routine
I promise you that you will come back to me and sing praise for the gifts you will receive! Do not praise me though (as stated above, in the correct way) Praise your Father and Mother in Heaven!Amen! Great that we have this off topic forum to share such beliefs. Thank God for the hope [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Mos[/words] growth has given to many men. Thank God for the healing made possible of bodies, minds and relationships by just a little workout over time to make the most of what our Creator gave us.
Thanks for your ten yrs of dedication, Dld. And thank You God for the results. Thank You God for the brotherhood among men we enjoy here.
Amen!
Thanks for your ten yrs of dedication, Dld. And thank You God for the results. Thank You God for the brotherhood among men we enjoy here.
Amen!
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pdguy;588081 said:You wrote that a year ago today! No reason, I just noticed it.
Are you and the brothers here all Catholics?
I have always wanted to be Catholic but I
was raised Protestant.
I wish we were all Catholics, but no, the Brotherhood has no denomination religiously
Ironically, that was a year ago and now, today, I meet with LIGHTNING again to get a bunch of work done for the Brotherhood.DLD as a italian descendent as you I was born in Catholic Roman family (know as the religion of uncut guys too) just joking...hehehe, you know sometimes we forget about Jesus all that things that we learn as we grow up, but is always good to remember and think about God, Jesus, pray... it brings a good vibration for everyone.
zartan;590355 said:
Praise the Lord! I am say Mass everyday, most days twice! I feel no better than when I am at the alter of the mass! Knowing that I am taking the Body, Spirit and Blood into me, it enlightens me and brings me to a level of peace and love no matter how bad I am feeling. It is so awesome to find Brothers who are of the apostolic faith!
Not convinced.
aheist4sex- There is nothing to be convinced of... Judging by your nickname I can see you even joined just to let us know that you are not convinced... rofl!
"Judging by your nickname I can see you even joined just to let us know that you are not convinced"
Don't be silly. I have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words]. That is why I joined the forum.
"There is nothing to be convinced of"
There are lots of claims in this thread, Jesus loves you, knows what I want and need, will respond to prayers, albeit only vague, non-specific ones (surprise, surprise...) These are claims that I don't believe.
I do find it rather humorously ironic that there is religious claptrap on a site dedicated to hedonism. You know, sins of the flesh, the kind of thing Paul and Jesus preached against. LOL. Like Paul said that basically sex is bad and you should really just be celibate if at all possible, but, gee, if you are just too sinful and horny, he supposes you might as well get married. As a general rule (with many exceptions of course...) atheists know the Bible better than Christians.
Don't be silly. I have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words]. That is why I joined the forum.
"There is nothing to be convinced of"
There are lots of claims in this thread, Jesus loves you, knows what I want and need, will respond to prayers, albeit only vague, non-specific ones (surprise, surprise...) These are claims that I don't believe.
I do find it rather humorously ironic that there is religious claptrap on a site dedicated to hedonism. You know, sins of the flesh, the kind of thing Paul and Jesus preached against. LOL. Like Paul said that basically sex is bad and you should really just be celibate if at all possible, but, gee, if you are just too sinful and horny, he supposes you might as well get married. As a general rule (with many exceptions of course...) atheists know the Bible better than Christians.
what do atheists, vegans, crossfitters, and religious people have in common?
they tell you about it right away.
if you think differently you are wrong and they will tell you why and that they no more about it then you.
i know there are more things they have in common...feel free to add
one of my favorite joke quotes that applies to all of these groups is, "the first rule of vegan club, TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT VEGAN CLUB!!!"
edit: not all people who are part of the groups mentioned about fit into this joke.
they tell you about it right away.
if you think differently you are wrong and they will tell you why and that they no more about it then you.
i know there are more things they have in common...feel free to add
one of my favorite joke quotes that applies to all of these groups is, "the first rule of vegan club, TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT VEGAN CLUB!!!"
edit: not all people who are part of the groups mentioned about fit into this joke.
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youknowme- HAHAHHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!! A funny post that is! Really made me feel cheered up! Well- to all people who considered themselves right 100% of the time- I can only say that they are very deluded and are people I would not like to get to know better!
doublelongdaddy;620548 said:
NOW it got interesting! rofl!
doublelongdaddy;620548 said:
Matthew 19:12:
"For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Any other other Bible questions you have?
doublelongdaddy;620725 said:
LOL!!!!
atheist4sex;620752 said:
so i am not religious and know only a moderate to slightly below moderate amount about the bible. but if you are going to post something that you are posting b/c it proves your point, you must explain how it proves your point. at least b/c that doesn't appear to prove your point at all.
"and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it." i'm guessing that it was you are using and interpreting as the bible meaning sex is basicallybad.
thank you for explaining when you do
it is always fun to see atheists do the same bible quoting and self interpretation of it to prove their own points just as religious people do.
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I'm not religious (agnostic), but I can't fathom how any religion would be against sex. How do you expect your religion to survive if people can't have kids.
Anyways. I looked up the term "eunuch" as there are different definitions it seems back then. It leads to either (in bible terms) a gay man or celibate in nature. I'm also sure there is a contradiction in there to negate both.
Anyways. I looked up the term "eunuch" as there are different definitions it seems back then. It leads to either (in bible terms) a gay man or celibate in nature. I'm also sure there is a contradiction in there to negate both.
smerc;620786 said:
i also found it to mean a man who has been castrated. either by his own choice or it was forced upon him.
Jesus' statements on sexuality
Jesus is recorded as having made only four direct comments that might be interpreted as relating to sexual behavior.
horizontal rule
1. Divorce:
Matthew 5:31-32 states:
"It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (KJV)
Matthew 19:9 states similarly:
"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." (KJV)
Here, Jesus prohibits divorce, except in a case of sexual misconduct -- "porneia" in the original Greek. Various versions of the Bible have translated "porneia" as as adultery, fornication, unchastity, unfaithfulness or marital unfaithfulness. Jesus here deviated from Jewish law, which said that a man could freely divorce his wife.
Mark 10:11-12 states:
"...Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18 states:
"Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."
As you can see this have no direct meaning in sex itself they relate mainly to marriage.
Any more questions on the Bible?
Jesus is recorded as having made only four direct comments that might be interpreted as relating to sexual behavior.
horizontal rule
1. Divorce:
Matthew 5:31-32 states:
"It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." (KJV)
Matthew 19:9 states similarly:
"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." (KJV)
Here, Jesus prohibits divorce, except in a case of sexual misconduct -- "porneia" in the original Greek. Various versions of the Bible have translated "porneia" as as adultery, fornication, unchastity, unfaithfulness or marital unfaithfulness. Jesus here deviated from Jewish law, which said that a man could freely divorce his wife.
Mark 10:11-12 states:
"...Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18 states:
"Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."
As you can see this have no direct meaning in sex itself they relate mainly to marriage.
Any more questions on the Bible?
youknowme123321;620888 said:
Seen that as well, the dictionary term. That would kind of insinuate that having kids is a bad thing. Unless there is something more deeper then that. Like those dudes went in on a LOT of women just nutting on/in everything w/ no regards to kids. Someone probably came by that had enough and just decided to chop those fuckers clean off, then sold them off as good luck charms. Then a trend was started.
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LONGERDICK7+
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Gold chains and J, what a great combo ehehe
doublelongdaddy;620883 said:
LOL!!!! Technically, you are correct, because I doubt anything that is in any of the Gospels was actually said by any real Jesus. But, the verse in question is, according to Matthew, a quotation of Jesus. I'll include the verse before it:
Matthew 19:11-12
Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Dude, I've had a thousand similar debates with Christians, that go along these lines:
Me: The Bible says 'x'
Christian: It does not!
Me: Here you are, verse ...
Christian: Ah, but if you use my secret decoder ring, you will find it actually doesn't say 'x'
Trust me dude, you have NO chance of winning this debate. And no, it doesn't impress me that you are a minister. You still have NO chance of winning it.
What's your definition of an eunuch? Let's get that out of the way.
It seems you're trying to insinuate that the meaning behind the above is that if you can't reproduce or you/others put it upon yourself to not be able to, that this is somehow correlated to sex being a sin. That would insinuate that having kids was a sin, not sex :s . Having your balls cut off doesn't take you out of the lineup to have sex. You're trying to insinuate something which isn't stated.
You would have to determine what choosing to live like an eunuch actually meant. What is their role in the bible is where I'm getting @. I know there are some instances of advocating/mentioning celibacy in regards to serving Christ/ETC, but I don't know enough about it. I guess those instances are pertaining to eunuchs.
Smerc 6:9 states that no oral acts upon men should be done with less than 1 woman.
Once again, I'm not religious nor have ever been.
It seems you're trying to insinuate that the meaning behind the above is that if you can't reproduce or you/others put it upon yourself to not be able to, that this is somehow correlated to sex being a sin. That would insinuate that having kids was a sin, not sex :s . Having your balls cut off doesn't take you out of the lineup to have sex. You're trying to insinuate something which isn't stated.
You would have to determine what choosing to live like an eunuch actually meant. What is their role in the bible is where I'm getting @. I know there are some instances of advocating/mentioning celibacy in regards to serving Christ/ETC, but I don't know enough about it. I guess those instances are pertaining to eunuchs.
Smerc 6:9 states that no oral acts upon men should be done with less than 1 woman.
Once again, I'm not religious nor have ever been.
LONGERDICK7+
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Smerc 6:9 states that no oral acts upon men should be done with less than 1 woman.
atheist4sex;620982 said:
atheist - you still aren't showing where it is said that sex is a sin. you are just showing us something that doesn't support what you are telling us. and you are saying it proves jesus said sex was sin.
How come you aren't explaining how you interpret this to be supportive of your point?
You realize that of the thousands of similar debates you have had that the religious people you have had them with feel they "won" the debate just like you do lol. You are the exact same thing as they are just with the reverse point.
But please explain how what you shared is proof jesus said sex was a sin. b/c right now even the people who aren't religious or christians (like me) aren't agreeing with you b/c you "proof" is lacking.
thank you
LONGERDICK7+
Active Member
senseles arguing,God will judge us all and his words are wiser and deeper, beyond our understanding he loves us all, unfortunately not everybody will be welcomed into his kingdom of heaven...
shortdick;621166 said:
What blows my mind about atheist people is they pray to God in two situations almost in every case, even though they say they don't believe. When they are getting off they cry his name and when they are about to die they pray his name. I pray for all atheist that they find God in time to reap the rewards of His love.
LONGERDICK7+
Active Member
Maybe they will maybe they wont, maybe we will, maybe we wont....But they are ignorant about the wisdom and love God has for us.And we are too ....
doublelongdaddy;621293 said:
As far as getting off, "oh God" is a learned expression that means lots of things in different contexts. One of those meanings, in proper context is, "mighty fine cum!" If I say, "damn good BJ baby!" do you think I think the BJ came with a helping of damnation???? If I say, "she's got a hell of a pussy" do you think I think it shoots flames? Christians are so funny!
As far as when about to die, that's actually a Christian myth. We don't.
Let me tell you a story. I was flying in a storm in Venezuela. We lost cabin pressure and the oxygen masks came out. The cabin filled with what was actually fog, but, looked like smoke, you couldn't see 2 feet in front of you. Now, truth be told, I probably wasn't in much actual danger. We had oxygen. But, it certainly felt threatening. I didn't call out to God. I was pretty anxious, but, nope, not call out to God.
Humorously, I was sitting next to a Mormon missionary. Young guy. I had just minutes before the loss of cabin pressure told him that I didn't believe his hogwash. I guess he thought God was coming to get me. LOL.
I'll respond in more detail about the "eunuch" quote later.
atheist4sex;621341 said:
atheist - you still aren't showing where it is said that sex is a sin. you are just showing us something that doesn't support what you are telling us. and you are saying it proves jesus said sex was sin.
How come you aren't explaining how you interpret this to be supportive of your point?
You realize that of the thousands of similar debates you have had that the religious people you have had them with feel they "won" the debate just like you do lol. You are the exact same thing as they are just with the reverse point.
But please explain how what you shared is proof jesus said sex was a sin. b/c right now even the people who aren't religious or christians (like me) aren't agreeing with you b/c your "proof" is lacking.
thank you
to tell someone to their face something they believe (no matter what they believe as long as that belief doesn't hurt someone) is hogwash, is rude and worse then the polite jehovah witnesses who have knocked on my door before. Please tell me you realize you are the exact same as an overly religious person who pushes their belief in that religion on people? it's just you have the opposite point.
atheists are just as funny as the christians you mention.
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youknowme123321;621344 said:
Well, I just can't see a point you made that I do not agree with.
atheist4sex;621341 said:
Why don't you just respond to where Jesus spoke about sex being a sin, that is what you originally said you would do and you have not done this yet. I have, however, gave you every sexual quote made by Jesus and there is not one word that agrees with your opinion. So lets stop running around avoiding the point, please show me where Jesus states that sex is a sin.
doublelongdaddy;621437 said:
Where did I say Jesus said it was a sin? What I said originally was that Paul and Jesus preached against hedonism, living for physical pleasure. And that it is ironic that this site, a site dedicated to getting a bigger dick (IOW hedonistic) would have religious claptrap. So, try to be more precise about saying what I said, okay?
Now, granted, the proclamations about how terrible the "flesh" is, is more from Paul, not so much from Jesus. Still, you downplay that one quote I gave, in my opinion, only because it supports me, not you. As far as I know, there isn't any dispute among theologians that the "live like a eunuch" quote means to be celibate. It is fair to say that it is disputable as to whom Jesus is recommending this to. But, while the quote is short, the words seem to say it is a general recommendation. Not expected of everybody, of course. But, generally recommended.
The most you can really counter that with is to say it isn't clear. You'd think Jesus, when speaking of something as important as human sexuality, would have been a little more clear, doncha think? Doncha think that if Christ really was God, and the Bible is true, God would have done just a tensy bit better job of explaining things? After all, these things aren't debated just by us here on this site, or just nonbelievers that have trouble understanding. Christians debate all kinds of things, including sexuality.
Most Christian churches teach that all Scripture is god breathed, and equal footing. And scripture interprets scripture. It seems that perhaps DLD doesn't agree with this since he was adamant I find something from Jesus. But, for most Christians, using Paul's writings to clarify or add to what Jesus said is totally fine, scripture interprets scripture. If that is the case, then Paul's teaching on the subject would seem to be worthwhile. Where Paul says he really thinks people should be celibate and only get married if you are just too sinful to avoid sexual pleasure.
I can't help but wonder if DLD wants to avoid going down this route because its not so rosy for him....
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atheist4sex;621485 said:
atheist4sex;620441 said:
that is where you said it. or at least where you made it look like you were saying jesus (and paul) said sex was a sin. so you were saying only paul said it?
there a 2 types of religious people and 2 types of non religious people. the first type are the people who are set in their belief and will make it their point to counter debate any comments made opposing their belief even if the comment wasn't directed towards them. just like you did to DLD's video about his beliefs. these people are often times generally ass holes and religion happens to be their thing. if it wasn't they would have something else they were ass holes about. some religious people will make it a point to tell a person how sinful they are and try to convince them how everything is true about their religion while attempting to belittle and make the other person feel stupid for their belief. Their are others like DLD who don't mind what you believe in or don't believe in. now this doesn't mean you're an ass hole. we all are ass holes at some point in time. sometimes we are ass holes when it comes to one topic or one situation.
I have on a few occasions made statements that are the opposite of what DLD believes in but never once once has he said anything trying to convince me I am wrong or saying anything belittling that insulted me or my intelligence. that is because DLD doesn't belong to the first type of religious people. he belongs the 2nd type. the type that truly believe in their religion and may even wish everyone shared that belief for various reasons but is okay with that fact that people don't.
now atheists fit into this same 2 types as well. type 1 - the ones who make it their point to oppose a video like DLD's or type 2 - the ones who don't.
DLD posted a video sharing his belief. he made that video b/c it feels good to share and he wanted to share that with like minded people. i and others who don't believe in his religion who didn't comment (type 2) and you (type 1) who commented "not convinced" and then went on further. did you see DLD’s happiness in the video? see his smile at the beginning? he didn’t post this to try and convince anyone to believe what he believes. you posted to try and do that. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOU HAPPINESS DLD. it is always great when someone does this whether here in the forum or by a stranger walking by me on the street and saying “hello” to me with a big smile on their face.
As far as my ass hole comments go, we have all been ass holes at times and will continue to be. i think type 1 behavior is ass hole behavior. it could be a behavior that is carried out by a person who in general is an awesome person.
atheist4sex;620441 said:
this quote alone is full of belittling remarks. the don't be silly comment. it wasn't silly of zam to say that. of all the threads that are on here about [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and your for your 2nd or 3rd post you found a thread that hadnt been posted on in 6 weeks and put your type 1 one comment to it. and look at your name...come on. if your name was penometguy4sex then his comment would have been silly.
calling what DLD said "claims" is belittling. they are not claims to him and people who share their beliefs and just b/c you think they are claims doesn't make you right.
same goes for your religious claptrap statement.
there are more belittling comments from you in your other posts as well
as a general rule (with many exceptions of course...atheists (can replace with religious people if wanted, DLD is an exception as are all the other religious members on this site as far as i know) are rude pushing their beliefs on others.
belittling never makes a person look like the smart one
Edit: as zam also said below. I am not against you. We are just not about putting down each other and others beliefs here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
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I absolutely agree with youknowme! The way I see DLD being truly happy in this video just warms my heart! He is NOT trying to convince anyone- he is just stating he believes Jesus loves him and everyone else on Earth. Even if you DON'T believe in what he says- why should you just jump in the discussion trying to pick an argument. To you- he is wrong and to him he is right. And this applies not only for religion- this applies everywhere in life. We have thought and opinion we define as "right" and therefore it is the "correct" one. People should 1st stop being close minded and accept that they can be wrong and then try to argue with whoever out there. I am not "against" you mate, don't feel anything like it- I am just trying to tell you that DLD is a happy man who believes in what he believes and I see no reason why anyone would jump at such a person (whether it be DLD or not) and tell him he is "right" or "wrong". If people are trying to convince someone of something- then I see a reason for you "I am not convinced" comment. But just take a look at the video and tell me don't you see a happy man who feel like he has discovered the reall happiness source of life. I am not saying that I am "right", I am just saying that I personally see no reason why anyone would be offensive enough to make a comment like your to a person who is not trying to convince anyone of anything and is truly happy.
youknowme123321;621556 said:
I accept that I wasn't completely clear. It is more that at least Paul seemed to preach that sexual pleasure was generally frowned upon. But, acceptable if you are just too sinful to avoid it. I do acknowledge this is much more clear in Paul's writings. From 1 Corinthians 7
Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.
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Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
So, we have the quote by Jesus, that I posted, that is a general recommendation that it is a good idea to be celibate. Then we have from Paul more details, it is better to be celibate. Ideally you should "control yourself" and not touch a woman. I'm really not sure how this could be any more clear that I am correct. It seems to me to be rather cut and dry.
I could go on and quote more from Paul that is more in general about how "flesh" meaning physical pleasures (not just sex...) is bad. But, honestly, this seems to me to be pretty satisfactory to prove my point.
you realize no point has been proven except that you misspoke and that led to people asking you to prove your point. Had you not misspoke no one would have asked you for any information. this all occurred after you began pushing your disbeliefs ("not convince") and beliefs on DLD and this forum. we would have all just wondered why you were "hatin"?atheist4sex;621639 said:
how come you avoid the comments about you being like the overly religious people who shove it down your throat but just with the opposite point/beliefs.
I wonder if you avoid self interpretation, self learning, etc., etc.. you know...not looking at yourself in the mirror type of stuff. I wonder this b/c it is often the issue with those type 1 overly religious people
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youknowme123321;621641 said:
I demonstrated my point, that the Bible preaches that it is basically a bad thing to want to enjoy sex. That was my point all along and I demonstrated it.
youknowme123321;621641 said:
Since when is posting an opinion on a forum "pushing your beliefs"? Did I come knocking on your door handing you a pamplet? What a hypocritical double standard that it is okay for DLD or anybody else to post their opinion if it is pro Christianity, but if I post my counter-opinion, then I'm pushing my beliefs?
Now, it indeed is true that I'm not just an atheist, I'm an anti-theist. Meaning that I believe that religion is ultimately harmful and needs to be opposed. If you say I'm an a-hole, fine, you're not the first person to say that. LOL. But, the bottom line is, you give pro Christian proselytizing a pass, that's okay. But if I post a counter opinion, I'm pushing my beliefs. Hypocrisy plain and simple.
atheist4sex;621683 said:
none of what you posted was your opinion. you posted what you believe to be true. yes you passed out pamphlets at all our doors, metaphorically speaking.
Yes, when you go onto someones thread about something that makes them happy and they believe in and you push your counter beliefs it is being just like one of those pushy religious people. Now had you started your own thread with a video and you showed how happy atheism makes you and said whatever your belief was no one would have cared. the people who agree with you would have come along and agreed with you. And if someone came into the thread and started counter debating you and pushing their beliefs on you, saying that they aren't convinced and other similar things I would have said the same things to them that i said to you. that person would have fit the bill as the pushy religious person that no one likes except for the other pushy religious people. you fit the bill for the pushy atheist person. there was no double standard. no hypocrisy here. just pointing out your poor behavior. and anyone who is a pushy religious person also behaves poorly. the people who knock at my door don't fit the pushy personality b/c they leave nicely and tell me to have a nice day when i say no thank you to them.
I agree with you that religion can have harmful results and lead to ultimately harmful situations. it also leads to exactly the opposite. it is the type of person that leads to the harm being caused. when groups of bad people get together harmful thing happen whether religions is involved or not. it's the people with pushy personalities like yours but who take it to that radical level that harm results. if people would just live peacefully with their beliefs instead of trying to get everyone else to follow suit this world would benefit from it. I co-exist well with all people who don't share my beliefs.
atheist4sex;621683 said:
No, you twisted your point to accommodate your original claims. No one here is wondering if Saint Paul preached against sex as he did, as did Mathew and many other saints. You said, and I quote: "I do find it rather humorously ironic that there is religious claptrap on a site dedicated to hedonism. You know, sins of the flesh, the kind of thing Paul and Jesus preached against." Can you please show where Jesus said this in the Bible...That is all I am asking and I am getting sick and tired of you avoiding the original claim.
doublelongdaddy;621766 said:
in post #43 he agreed that he wasn't "clear" after i pointed out in post #41 where he said jesus said sex was a sin. he mispoke. then as you can see in the quote below he just kept going. his only point is to make people who are religious feel they are wrong. feel they are dumb for their beliefs. and most importantly...to be right. the type of atheist he is he will just keep going even though he won't ever be right in the eyes of the religious person he is trying to persuade. just like the religious person that will keep telling an atheist their beliefs and why they are right and the atheist is wrong and going to hell even though the atheist won't change.
It is just a personality type and he latched onto atheism. It is just like the conversation I remember two 11 year old girls having YEEEEAAAARRRS ago. One girl was trying to convince the other girl why the backstreet boys were better then Nsync. kept telling her she was wrong. kept bringing up album sales and stuff. the other girl only said that she liked Nsync better. it was her belief that Nsync was better. she never said why she liked them better. just watched the other girl talk and would say i don't care I like Nsync. just depends what one person believes is true and if that person goes out of their way to make it known. And as a side note i slapped both those little girls and said, "98 degrees for life bitches!!"
atheist4sex;621639 said:
doublelongdaddy;621766 said:
LOL. I already conceded it was more Paul than Jesus. But Jesus did recommend celibacy, which you keep running from. I'm sick and tired of you dodging this point.
You act as if I'm the only person in the universe to think that Christianity is opposed to sexual pleasure. You do know that has been preached by many churches for centuries, right?
youknowme123321;621740 said:
LOL!!! You uh, do know that an "opinion" is something someone believes to be true, yes? LOL. Here is from dictionary.com, definition of opinion:
"a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. "
youknowme123321;621740 said:
Are you seriously going to try to tell me that had I started a separate thread, a Christian wouldn't have posted something, "you really should reconsider, Jesus loves you and wants you to spend eternigy with him!" Something like that? Really?
Discussion forums are where people express opinions, both agreeing with and disagreeing with the OP. Pick a thread on, say, gun control. Do you think that there should be a thread where only pro gun control posts exists, and a separate thread where only anti-gun control exists? Or would you expect to see a thread where both sides are argued in the same thread.
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