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Greetings, fellow growers! I have been considering ordering a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], as I, at the age of 61, am embarking on one last attempt at enlargement. Not that I haven't had any success, because I have, gaining a little over an inch in length and almost an inch in girth. I currently stand at BPEL: 8.5" and EG of 6". So, not too shabby for an old fart LOL. As I stated, I'm going to give this one more go, so I've ordered a Phallogauge, which is an all-day stretcher. Don't know if it will be comfortable, effective etc, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than, say [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and others. Also, Just a couple of days ago, I placed an order for a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words], and it's on it's way. I'm confident the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] will be an effective tool, and all the reviews have been excellent. But now, back to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. First off, as some of you may have guessed, I am not new to the PE game. I think I bought my first pump back in the mid 70's, and believe me, I've tried just about every device out there. I could name a dozen off the top of my head, but I won't in the interest of brevity. Thing is, I did a lot of pumping years ago, with various models. And there were times I pumped myself up to enormous girth, 7" or more. But here's the kicker: These gains were never permanent. I attribute the girth gains I've made over the years to manual work as in jelqing, compression squeezes, clamping etc. But with pumps, even though the IMMEDIATE girth gains were remarkable, they were only temporary and mostly fluid buildup in the tissues. I could pump several days a week for months, and be really, really thick. But lay off the pump altogether, and within a week or so, I'd be right back where I started, with no permanent gains at all. I know this because I was pumping before I'd ever even heard the word "jelq," and before many of you were even born LOL. So, what would make the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] different? Perhaps the hot water? I don't know. But I would like some kind of rational reasoning as to how and why using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] could result in PERMANENT gains, before I shell out a couple hundred bucks for an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words].

One more question, if I may. For those of you who do use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], is it mandatory to use it in the tub or shower. I mean, I know you could use it just with air, but in that case, what would make it any different from pumps I've owned in the past? None that I can think of. The only difference and possibly key factor would be the warm water. But couldn't you just fill the pump up with warm water, apply vacuum, letting the excess water go into the sink or a bucket, and then continue your session without having to remain in a tub of water?

Any comments or suggestions would be welcome!

Warm regards
Fillerup
 
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TL/DR yes, they work (especially when you mod them)
 
Thanks for your input! You said the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] products have been "extremely effective" for you. Can you elaborate? Measurable gains after ceasing using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]? Just as an example. You suggested pumping for 5, then jelq for a few minutes to elimininate "FR"? Not sure what FR is, but I suspect swelling? Then you said "TL/DR yes....Not sure what that means. I would also like to ask you...are you doing this all in a bath tub? As I asked in my original post, is there no way to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] with just warm water and not having to jump in and out of the tub?
 
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Lookn4girth;741922 said:
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I would look forward to the input. Enough of it and I'll place my order. Now, how to incorporate the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] with stretching and using an ALD (all day stretcher). I mean, if you've pumped yourself up to huge proportions, what's the point of putting on a sleeve which then constricts your penis so that you can maintain a stretch for long periods? After all, you just pumped it up, now you're putting on a sleeve that will constrict or "compress" what you've just finished expanding? Is this clear? As for the input and testimonials? I'm all ears! Oh, and thank you for sharing your being able to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] without being in a tub. Seems much more practical to me.

Cheers
Fillrup
 
sorry for all the 'acronym-speak'...TL/DR=too long, didn't read and you're correct on the FR, which stands for fluid retention.

As for my routine, it's ever-evolving/changing but the one consistent component for almost 3 years has been using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]...here's my progress thread and you can see for yourself:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...rtia-or-a-how-to-for-the-lazy-guy-to-get.html

For some reason girth came easily for me and I struggled more with trying to gain enough length to look symmetrical, (from my perspective, I think another 1" in length would attain that balance).

TL/DR so far I've gone from 6.375" bone pressed erect length to 8" and 5.375" in mid-shaft girth to 7"
 
Fillerup;741926 said:
I would look forward to the input. Enough of it and I'll place my order. Now, how to incorporate the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] with stretching and using an ALD (all day stretcher). I mean, if you've pumped yourself up to huge proportions, what's the point of putting on a sleeve which then constricts your penis so that you can maintain a stretch for long periods? After all, you just pumped it up, now you're putting on a sleeve that will constrict or "compress" what you've just finished expanding? Is this clear? As for the input and testimonials? I'm all ears! Oh, and thank you for sharing your being able to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] without being in a tub. Seems much more practical to me.

Cheers
Fillrup
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I am not sure how others do it but I start my day with some manual stretching while taking my morning shower. After the shower I put on my PF and wear it for at least 8 to 10 hours. I take it off only for bathroom breaks and do some light stretching and then place it back on to the opposite side. Later in the afternoon, I will do my length session with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I follow that up with my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session and usually place a cock ring on for about 30 minutes to an hour. The idea behind keeping the penis elongated after a session is to allow it to heal in the elongated position and is found in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread. Since doing this routine I have noticed my girth improving along with my flaccid hang being better. I hope this helps a little
 
Big Schwanz Acht;741934 said:
sorry for all the 'acronym-speak'...TL/DR=too long, didn't read and you're correct on the FR, which stands for fluid retention.

As for my routine, it's ever-evolving/changing but the one consistent component for almost 3 years has been using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]...here's my progress thread and you can see for yourself:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...rtia-or-a-how-to-for-the-lazy-guy-to-get.html

For some reason girth came easily for me and I struggled more with trying to gain enough length to look symmetrical, (from my perspective, I think another 1" in length would attain that balance).

TL/DR so far I've gone from 6.375" bone pressed erect length to 8" and 5.375" in mid-shaft girth to 7"
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Man, those are some pretty impressive gains, particularly in girth. I've managaed to get to 8.4" BPEL (9" BPFSL), and about 6" EG. But 7" EG is a huge increase. I do have a couple of questions, if I may? Is your girth, at 7", permanent? That is, if you did not use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], or jelq or any kind of girth work, would you, after say 2 or 3 weeks, still be at 7" EG? I know from my past experience, going back many years (decades) I could pump up to probably 7" girth, but it was always temporary. Give it a week or two, and I was right back where I started. So, that's my first question. Second is: Do you incorporate any other girth exercises into your routine? Jelq? Compression squeezes? Clamping? If so, how would you know how much the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is contributing to your increases? As I said, I'm thinking of ordering the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], but I'm also planning on continuing jelqing and clamping. At the same time, I've just ordered the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words], and am wondering how to incorporate all of these exercises/devices together into a solid program. I welcome your comments as well as those from other seasoned vets out there.
 
I think the most consecutive days I've taken off in the last 3 years was 5, so I wouldn't know how much, if any, I'd lose. My plan is to get to 9" BPEL and re-evaluate, so I may never know :) My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] are the only PE tools that I own/incorporate and I'd give 100% credit to my modded Bathmates for the girth (and probably 75% of the length) that I've gained. The game-changer for me was when I added the VacuVin...it almost feel like your dick will explode
 
Big Schwanz Acht;741956 said:
I think the most consecutive days I've taken off in the last 3 years was 5, so I wouldn't know how much, if any, I'd lose. My plan is to get to 9" BPEL and re-evaluate, so I may never know :) My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] are the only PE tools that I own/incorporate and I'd give 100% credit to my modded Bathmates for the girth (and probably 75% of the length) that I've gained. The game-changer for me was when I added the VacuVin...it almost feel like your dick will explode
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What exactly is a "VacuVin?" also, you said "it almost feels like your dick will explode." Hmmmm....be careful...It just might!
 
know your limit, stay within it :) For some reason my d!ck can take a beating (literally, lol) so everyone should pay attention to their own thresholds to prevent injury (I've had a drop or two of blood from over-doing it, so knowing your body is key).
Like Ark posted, the VacuVin is designed to extract air from a partially full bottle of wine to help prevent oxidation and throw-off the flavor...some sick-minded PE aficionado (aka genius) discovered that the mod gave The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Super-Powers!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;741974 said:
know your limit, stay within it :) For some reason my d!ck can take a beating (literally, lol) so everyone should pay attention to their own thresholds to prevent injury (I've had a drop or two of blood from over-doing it, so knowing your body is key).
Like Ark posted, the VacuVin is designed to extract air from a partially full bottle of wine to help prevent oxidation and throw-off the flavor...some sick-minded PE aficionado (aka genius) discovered that the mod gave The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Super-Powers!
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I've got 2 of those in my kitchen drawer! I don't make wine anymore, but still buy a bottle now and then and now we've come to a whole new use for the product LOL! But I should mention I've done some extreme pumping in the past, using an electric pump that could, quite literally, blow your penis up if you cranked the pressure up too high. It was an industrial air pump with hose that attached to the cylinder. I don't have it any more, but I can tell you it would reach really high levels of vacuum in a matter of seconds. Couldn't use it with water, though, unless death by electrocution is on your bucket list.. No way you could get that kind of pressure from a vacuvin. But like you said, know your limits. I've ordered my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], which claims to have 35% more vacuum than it's predecessor. Is this not sufficient? And by the way, just how long does it take to reach max pressure with these pumps? I've not used a pump in a long time, and am still a little sceptical as to their efficacy, but I'm thinking with the water, it might reduce fluid buildup and actually really stretch the penile tissues (if, in my opinion, used in conjunction with jelq, compression squeezes etc.). I'll have a better idea when it arrives, in a week or so I expect. I'll be getting the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at about the same time and the Phallogauge [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] as well. It's a pretty good combination of equipment and I'm optimistic that gains are in store in the months to come. Thanks guys for your input. VacuVin, huh? Who would have thought LOL...

Cheers
Fillerup
 
The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] rocks! I wish I had one when I was growing up :) Great reviews here in this thread and many others. It is a great buy Fillerup!
 
If you employ the 5X5X3 you'll keep the FR to a minimum...as for how long it takes the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] to get up to pressure? I guess it takes about as much time for you to fill it up, enter it and start drawing water out with The VacuVin (I don't bother with trying to compress it against my body any more, I just enter and grab The VV). You'll begin to feel the pressure after the first few pumps, and that's where I progress a bit slower until I hit max...wait a minute or two and increase...rinse/repeat as much as you can tolerate
 
I remember when using a VacuVin in my wine bottles, it would pump air out very quickly, but only so far. After a point, usually reached in in under 10 seconds, any further pumping seemed to have no effect. But of course, using it in a wine bottle and in a penile expanding cylinder are two different things, right? I am uncertain as to the meaning of your statement, "If you employ the 5X5X3 you'll keep the FR to a minimum..." What do you mean by 5X5X3? It could mean 3 times 5-minute sessions. And if so, what are you doing during the break? Massage? Jelq? etc. And is "FR" referring to fluid retention?
 
Fillerup;742101 said:
I remember when using a VacuVin in my wine bottles, it would pump air out very quickly, but only so far. After a point, usually reached in in under 10 seconds, any further pumping seemed to have no effect. But of course, using it in a wine bottle and in a penile expanding cylinder are two different things, right? I am uncertain as to the meaning of your statement, "If you employ the 5X5X3 you'll keep the FR to a minimum..." What do you mean by 5X5X3? It could mean 3 times 5-minute sessions. And if so, what are you doing during the break? Massage? Jelq? etc. And is "FR" referring to fluid retention?
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Correct FR is fluid retention. For the 5×5×3
5 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s × 3 rounds.
 
Mike3209;742104 said:
Correct FR is fluid retention. For the 5×5×3
5 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s × 3 rounds.
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those are the magic numbers! If anyone remains consistent on this routine they have no choice but to grow!
 
doublelongdaddy;742138 said:
those are the magic numbers! If anyone remains consistent on this routine they have no choice but to grow!
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It is my intention to begin my girth routine with 10 minutes of Jelq/compression squeezes etc. Then 5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], then several minutes of more compression squeezes or maybe even clamping, then repeat. I'm confident this will have me thoroughly engorged. But afterwards, I want to put on my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (the Phalloguage, which hasn't arrived in the mail yet). I'm wondering if this will be counterproductive. After all, you spend all this effort expanding your penis, then follow it with something that compresses it in order to stretch. The Phalloguage wraps around the first couple inches behind the head, so maybe not so bad. But if you were using, say, the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], then you have a constrictive sleeve all the way down the length of your penis. How do you incorporate all these into one system that does not, in essence, contradict itself? Plus, if I were to, say, try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], it would be difficult to find the correct sleeve size, because after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], size would be quite different than before. Just my thoughts, before all my stuff arrives in the mail.

Comments?

Fillerup
 
Fillerup;742184 said:
It is my intention to begin my girth routine with 10 minutes of Jelq/compression squeezes etc. Then 5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], then several minutes of more compression squeezes or maybe even clamping, then repeat. I'm confident this will have me thoroughly engorged. But afterwards, I want to put on my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (the Phalloguage, which hasn't arrived in the mail yet). I'm wondering if this will be counterproductive. After all, you spend all this effort expanding your penis, then follow it with something that compresses it in order to stretch. The Phalloguage wraps around the first couple inches behind the head, so maybe not so bad. But if you were using, say, the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], then you have a constrictive sleeve all the way down the length of your penis. How do you incorporate all these into one system that does not, in essence, contradict itself? Plus, if I were to, say, try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], it would be difficult to find the correct sleeve size, because after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], size would be quite different than before. Just my thoughts, before all my stuff arrives in the mail.

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Fillerup
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Flip it around and get length work in before girth. Once you have become engorged with girth work it makes it much more difficult to get a decent stretch without using a ton of intensity. If you want to do girth before length give yourself at least 4 hours in-between to wait on the expansion to go down. I always did length through the dat and girth work at night. AT the time I was with a woman and I did girth work before sex so I would be at my thickest.
 
I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Goliath[/words] back in 2009 onwards for several years. Found it to be really useful and it does work. I would combine it with other penis enlargement methods to help with the gains, but not too much, otherwise you can overdo it. Things to add would be jelqing, manuel stretches or clamping. It all helps. Pumping on its own will still yield permanent results, but from my experience its more fruitful if you combine it with several other ingredients.
 
doublelongdaddy;742256 said:
Flip it around and get length work in before girth. Once you have become engorged with girth work it makes it much more difficult to get a decent stretch without using a ton of intensity. If you want to do girth before length give yourself at least 4 hours in-between to wait on the expansion to go down. I always did length through the dat and girth work at night. AT the time I was with a woman and I did girth work before sex so I would be at my thickest.
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Actually, it was always my intention to do length work before girth. I just neglected to mention that part. Apologies. Here is my issue: I have ordered a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words], as well as an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] (which reminds me, my PayPal account sent me an email acknowledging my order for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydromax[/words], several days ago, I but have received no corresponding email with shipping info, tracking etc. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words], I am happy to say, has cleared Canadian customs and appears to be on it's way). I also ordered a Phallogauge [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words], but that seems to have dropped off the radar too! Regardless, let's assume they all arrive in the next week or two. What I'm trying to figure out is how to incorporate all 3 devices in a manner where the one does not detract from the desired results of the others. So, the best I can figure is I get up fairly early, do my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretching work, then on to girth work with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] and clamping, jelq etc. Then the problems! Here I am, pumped to the hilt, stretching has already been done previously, and now I want to keep an all day stretch with the Phallogauge (and it could be any of many [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] devices). But each of them require compressing the penile tissues which I've just finished spending considerable time expanding. Doesn't make sense to me. So, my question is, other than having two separate workouts, morning and night, how do you incorporate both in the morning in order to maximize both length and girth, while still using an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? I don't want to use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] as I'm a light sleeper and I think it would keep me awake. So, any [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] I use would have to be during the day. Another problem, as I understand it, is that after major girth work, it is desirable to maintain the achieved expansion via a cock ring or some other method such as a cable clamp used in clamping etc. But...how do you do that and still have an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] working? I just can't figure out how to implement all of these elements into one consistent practice. Unless one just says "I'll just work on length for now, and girth later on." Or vice versa. I hope this is clear. I want to make this work, but how??? I know I'm throwing a lot of questions, but I can't be the only one who has wondering about these things. Hope someone here can help. DLD, you're the man. What say you? All others welcome to chime in of course.

Warm regards
Fillerup
 
REDZULU2003;742281 said:
I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Goliath[/words] back in 2009 onwards for several years. Found it to be really useful and it does work. I would combine it with other penis enlargement methods to help with the gains, but not too much, otherwise you can overdo it. Things to add would be jelqing, manuel stretches or clamping. It all helps. Pumping on its own will still yield permanent results, but from my experience its more fruitful if you combine it with several other ingredients.
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Hey Redzulu2003. Thanks for the comments. I remember you from way back, over a decade ago. We've both been in this game a long time, but you are still here and contributing. My compliments!!! I've been out of PE for several years and want to give it one last go in my senior years. Hey, gaining an inch or more in the next 8 months (my goal) would be pretty cool. And I'm doing it for me, no one else. I won't be over the hill at 62 by then, so might even be able to use it LOL. I'm still a little skeptical of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], because I've purchased multiple pumps in the past, spanning decades, and used them for fairly long periods of time without any permanent results. But, the knowledge base has certainly grown, and back then, I knew little about girth work such as jelq, compression squeeses, clamping etc. That can all change the equation. We shall see, soon enough!

Cheers!
Fillerup
 
Hey Fill, I am pretty new here so I am not sure if my limited experience will help. I understand what you are saying in regards to putting on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after your girth routine. What worked better for me was doing light manual stretches in the morning and then wearing my PF all day for at least 8 to 10 hours. That evening i will do my routine with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session. I did try doing it the other way and the expansion after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session was so much that i had to use a larger sleeve on my PF to maintain suction but after a while the post pump expansion would decrease leading to some loss of suction. I hope this helps a little
 
Lookn4girth;742342 said:
I did try doing it the other way and the expansion after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session was so much that i had to use a larger sleeve on my PF to maintain suction but after a while the post pump expansion would decrease leading to some loss of suction. I hope this helps a little
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makes perfect sense
 
REDZULU2003;742281 said:
I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Goliath[/words] back in 2009 onwards for several years. Found it to be really useful and it does work. I would combine it with other penis enlargement methods to help with the gains, but not too much, otherwise you can overdo it. Things to add would be jelqing, manuel stretches or clamping. It all helps. Pumping on its own will still yield permanent results, but from my experience its more fruitful if you combine it with several other ingredients.
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The RedMan Bringing the Knowledge!
 
Fillerup;742326 said:
Hey Redzulu2003. Thanks for the comments. I remember you from way back, over a decade ago. We've both been in this game a long time, but you are still here and contributing. My compliments!!! I've been out of PE for several years and want to give it one last go in my senior years. Hey, gaining an inch or more in the next 8 months (my goal) would be pretty cool. And I'm doing it for me, no one else. I won't be over the hill at 62 by then, so might even be able to use it LOL. I'm still a little skeptical of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], because I've purchased multiple pumps in the past, spanning decades, and used them for fairly long periods of time without any permanent results. But, the knowledge base has certainly grown, and back then, I knew little about girth work such as jelq, compression squeeses, clamping etc. That can all change the equation. We shall see, soon enough!

Cheers!
Fillerup
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Yeah, the typical penis pumps can be disadvantageous because they're essentially putting more uneven pressure on the penis. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydro pumping[/words] evens the pressure along the entire penis and prevents the pressure getting too high, to a level that cannot be managed. This was certainly the technology back on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hercules[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Goliath[/words]'s from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], cant see why that would have changed with the more advanced models.
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydro pumping[/words] is more comfortable then dry pumping due obviously to the water creating a nice sleeve or cushion around the penis. If you wear a condom, yes a condom, while you pump, it will help reduce fluid build-up.
 
REDZULU2003;742406 said:
Yeah, the typical penis pumps can be disadvantageous because they're essentially putting more uneven pressure on the penis. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydro pumping[/words] evens the pressure along the entire penis and prevents the pressure getting too high, to a level that cannot be managed. This was certainly the technology back on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hercules[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Goliath[/words]'s from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], cant see why that would have changed with the more advanced models.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydro pumping[/words] is more comfortable then dry pumping due obviously to the water creating a nice sleeve or cushion around the penis. If you wear a condom, yes a condom, while you pump, it will help reduce fluid build-up.
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Thanks for the tip Red. I have a question and hope that it does not sound dumb but if you wear a condom during pumping would that cause any restriction in expansion? I have seen the condom mentioned here on the site but have not tried it yet. I do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] between sets and don't have a big problem with FR after pumping but have had it happen just not severe
 
It's been barely a month and 10 days since I started using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and I'm already seeing some sort of changes.
 
huge-girth;743457 said:
It's been barely a month and 10 days since I started using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and I'm already seeing some sort of changes.
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keep empirical documentation on your progress to combat your mind from trying to dissuade your growth
 
Lookn4girth;743648 said:
Have you received your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words] yet Fill?
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The Big Boy Pump!
 
doublelongdaddy;743642 said:
I hope it is of the good 'sort'
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Well I'd say it's temporary but the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] is so magical in providing gains especially when you do it the way Dan Clizer suggested.
 
acromegaly;744531 said:
Nothing works unless you do
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Exactly, you can have every piece of equipment uin the world but if you do not use it it is useless!
 
roddthewadd64;754581 said:
Works like a charm.And so easy Ronnie milsap wouldn't fail.
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LMAO! Good one! He looks like a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words] user too, I imagine his cock is a good 10 x 6 :)

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Hey dld, I was looking on the bathmate website and I see they also had the pumps that come with the manual hand pump as well, which bathmate product one do you recommend me to get, I have done pe before but havnt done it in some months, usually did length tho but I need girth.
 
SageLaw2;n1816019 said:
Hey dld, I was looking on the bathmate website and I see they also had the pumps that come with the manual hand pump as well, which bathmate product one do you recommend me to get, I have done pe before but havnt done it in some months, usually did length tho but I need girth.
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Get the one that came with the manual hand pump.
 
SageLaw2;n1816019 said:
Hey dld, I was looking on the bathmate website and I see they also had the pumps that come with the manual hand pump as well, which bathmate product one do you recommend me to get, I have done pe before but havnt done it in some months, usually did length tho but I need girth.
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When I ordered my first pump, I got the X30 Xtreme which is the one that comes with the hand pump. When I moved up in size I got the X40 and then modified it with the Vacuvin and it works just as well as the Xtreme pump, maybe even better. You can get a good amount of pressure with either one. I would start slow with either one you choose.
 
Lookn4girth;n1816122 said:
When I ordered my first pump, I got the X30 Xtreme which is the one that comes with the hand pump. When I moved up in size I got the X40 and then modified it with the Vacuvin and it works just as well as the Xtreme pump, maybe even better. You can get a good amount of pressure with either one. I would start slow with either one you choose.
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Both does the same thing though I keep hearing people say the Vacuvin is more powerful. I believe both pumps does the same thing.
 
huge-girth;n1816128 said:
Both does the same thing though I keep hearing people say the Vacuvin is more powerful. I believe both pumps does the same thing.
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That reminds me, I've been searching the forum but cant find the post about the vacuvin, so could u tell me what that vacuvin is, or paste the link to the thread here, thank you
 
SageLaw2;n1816134 said:
That reminds me, I've been searching the forum but cant find the post about the vacuvin, so could u tell me what that vacuvin is, or paste the link to the thread here, thank you
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I'm sure DLD is going to see this post and help us out because I've not been able to search for stuffs in the forum due to the updates that is still on going. But you can Google it up and also see it on Amazon search result.
 
SageLaw2;n1816134 said:
That reminds me, I've been searching the forum but cant find the post about the vacuvin, so could u tell me what that vacuvin is, or paste the link to the thread here, thank you
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you can go here to amazon. This is the one I bought but it is white but it is the same thing
 
huge-girth;n1816128 said:
Both does the same thing though I keep hearing people say the Vacuvin is more powerful. I believe both pumps does the same thing.
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I don't know HG. That VV is pretty strong. From my experience, my hand pump stops increasing pressure before I say "uncle" but that VV mod makes my dick say "uncle" before it will no longer pump
 
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