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DanielSan705

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New member here, below are some things I've experimented within my diet to help with blood flow and PDE5 inhibition, with hopes of increasing size and improving recovery from P.E. As well as, leading to a fuller flaccid hang throughout the day.

Has anyone experimented with Beetroot Juice and or Beetroot powder. Citrulline Malate + Pomegranate Juice. Grape Juice. Grapefruit Juice.
Grape seed extract (quite cheap), Gingko Biloba,
70-90% Dark Chocolate Lindt Bars, no sugar added just pure cocoa
Staying in a Calorie Surplus to gain muscle size and possibly penis size.
Eggs, how many a day, I like about 4-5 a day in the evening a few hours before bed.
Horny Goat weed + Pomegranate Juice + Citrulline Malate combo
Teas - Green Tea with Fresh Ginger and Raw Unpasteurized Honey. (adding the honey after cooling down my tea with some cold water ).
Topical Oils - Jojoba seed oil, Olive Oil, Black Seed Oil, Grapeseed Oil. All seem to benefit the skin and work well for Manual Exercises.
Tongkat Ali - Seems to enhance testosterone, libido, but I didn't take long as I definitely experienced hair loss, hair grew back after quitting. May be beneficial for cycling or using before sex but not everyday to avoid hair loss.
Maca Root in powder or in capsules.

Would love to see what other ideas people have for supplements and or foods/drinks that they experimented with or consistently use in their diet. Sometimes it can get expensive, its nice to narrow down which ones you can incorporate daily for consistency and to save money.
 
Firstly, welcome to the community, brother.

DanielSan705 said:
New member here, below are some things I've experimented within my diet to help with blood flow and PDE5 inhibition, with hopes of increasing size and improving recovery from P.E. As well as, leading to a fuller flaccid hang throughout the day.
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Now, let's dive into the craziness. What are your dietary intakes and the PDE5 meds you have taken or are taking? You probably did quite a bit of research on this on your own, but discussing here will also provide other brothers with knowledge as well.

You don't have to provide your age, but how long did the ED occur? Knowing the length of time provides a higher perspective on how to handle the approaches. The longer it has been, it can be slowly readapting to or being aggressive with the approaches.

What about the symptoms? Mild? Moderate? Severe?

DanielSan705 said:
Has anyone experimented with Beetroot Juice and or Beetroot powder. Citrulline Malate + Pomegranate Juice. Grape Juice. Grapefruit Juice.
Grape seed extract (quite cheap), Gingko Biloba,
70-90% Dark Chocolate Lindt Bars, no sugar added just pure cocoa
Staying in a Calorie Surplus to gain muscle size and possibly penis size.
Eggs, how many a day, I like about 4-5 a day in the evening a few hours before bed.
Horny Goat weed + Pomegranate Juice + Citrulline Malate combo
Teas - Green Tea with Fresh Ginger and Raw Unpasteurized Honey. (adding the honey after cooling down my tea with some cold water ).
Topical Oils - Jojoba seed oil, Olive Oil, Black Seed Oil, Grapeseed Oil. All seem to benefit the skin and work well for Manual Exercises.
Tongkat Ali - Seems to enhance testosterone, libido, but I didn't take long as I definitely experienced hair loss, hair grew back after quitting. May be beneficial for cycling or using before sex but not everyday to avoid hair loss.
Maca Root in powder or in capsules.
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All the mentioned, our brothers have gone through them all. Again, it's all depending on the body's conditions and needs. You don't make a man drink 100 things for symptoms, when he only needs 5 to solve the root cause. The critical thing is to discover the root, when possible, and tackle it accordingly. In western medicine practices, we tend to only resolve the symptoms, and hardly the root causes.

DanielSan705 said:
Would love to see what other ideas people have for supplements and or foods/drinks that they experimented with or consistently use in their diet. Sometimes it can get expensive, its nice to narrow down which ones you can incorporate daily for consistency and to save money.
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Most of our brothers here who pursue PE attempt to resolve something. They provide lists of supplements and methods, on top of PE routines, to resolve their issues. You can find our personal logs here:

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Post your current penis enlargement routines and progress reports in this forum. YOU MUST BE LOGGED IN TO VIEW THIS FORUM
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oldandlively said:
Vitamin D3 is great. Too much Vit D can be dangerous, but a well balance load of Vit D is essential. But when it comes to cellular regeneration and healing, don't forget Vit C. How much you need? Long term wise, around 2,000 mg. Short burstm as high as 5,000 mg.
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I deliver mail on a foot route, so i get tons of sun daily, even in the winter i can get sun burns on sunny days. I put in about 35km a day on foot sometimes 38km, 50k steps, 900 driveways. I started taking K2 on its own because i definitely don't need vitamin D3 and K2, and its fairly cheap to add. I drink a lot of milk so I get some Vit D from that too.
 
oldandlively said:
Firstly, welcome to the community, brother.



Now, let's dive into the craziness. What are your dietary intakes and the PDE5 meds you have taken or are taking? You probably did quite a bit of research on this on your own, but discussing here will also provide other brothers with knowledge as well.

You don't have to provide your age, but how long did the ED occur? Knowing the length of time provides a higher perspective on how to handle the approaches. The longer it has been, it can be slowly readapting to or being aggressive with the approaches.

What about the symptoms? Mild? Moderate? Severe?



All the mentioned, our brothers have gone through them all. Again, it's all depending on the body's conditions and needs. You don't make a man drink 100 things for symptoms, when he only needs 5 to solve the root cause. The critical thing is to discover the root, when possible, and tackle it accordingly. In western medicine practices, we tend to only resolve the symptoms, and hardly the root causes.



Most of our brothers here who pursue PE attempt to resolve something. They provide lists of supplements and methods, on top of PE routines, to resolve their issues. You can find our personal logs here:

Routines and Progress Forum

Post your current penis enlargement routines and progress reports in this forum. YOU MUST BE LOGGED IN TO VIEW THIS FORUM
mattersofsize.com
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Several Years ago, maybe 8 or 10 years, I did a P.E workout with manual stretches and finished with edging/ masterbation and orgasm. After orgasm, something felt wrong, I very quickly went back to flaccid but felt firm/stiff still. Somehow I ended up with a firm flaccid. It could have been too much and pelvic floor strain too after the Orgasm. I full recovered, and after the firm flaccid recovered I think i gained some size, not a lot but a little bit of girth. Ever since then I've been continuing manual exercises + water pumping and making some slow gains.

Im 33, no PDE5 meds, just have experimented with cycling some horny goat weed. I drink pomegranate juice NOT from concentrate(pure), consume a balance of milk, eggs, meat, nuts and seeds ( pumpkin seeds/brazil nuts). Thank you for the reference to the personal logs. I also sometimes seem to turtle throughout the day, which may be a symptom of the initial firm flaccid incident. I notice when I lay down in bed, i turtle quite a lot, laying on my back. I end up doin some stretches in bed and it fixes it temporarily.

Wearing underwear with lots of room is helping me from turtling, and increasing nitric oxide. I would say mild turtling. Bundled stretches and squalsh jelqs really help.
 
DanielSan705 said:
I deliver mail on a foot route, so i get tons of sun daily, even in the winter i can get sun burns on sunny days. I put in about 35km a day on foot sometimes 38km, 50k steps, 900 driveways. I started taking K2 on its own because i definitely don't need vitamin D3 and K2, and its fairly cheap to add. I drink a lot of milk so I get some Vit D from that too.
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You definitely don't need any more Vit D3 beyond 1,500 mg a day with that much sun exposure. You definitely need a balance of Vit C, B12, and magnesium at this point. Keep your system strong with 800 mg of calcium, with 400 mg each half of the day based on the amount of steps you're pushing your body to take on daily.
 
oldandlively said:
You definitely don't need any more Vit D3 beyond 1,500 mg a day with that much sun exposure. You definitely need a balance of Vit C, B12, and magnesium at this point. Keep your system strong with 800 mg of calcium, with 400 mg each half of the day based on the amount of steps you're pushing your body to take on daily.
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thats a good point, pumpkin seeds and brazil nuts + the juices i drink should get me solid magnesium and vit C, but I was thinking the other day of taking a ZMA supplement. I always had really good sleep from that and it gives good zinc/magnesium and b12. Do you think I should supplement the calcium you recommend or do I get enough from the milk I drink, I drink about 1L milk a day in combination of white milk and chocolate milk.
 
DanielSan705 said:
Several Years ago, maybe 8 or 10 years, I did a P.E workout with manual stretches and finished with edging/ masterbation and orgasm. After orgasm, something felt wrong, I very quickly went back to flaccid but felt firm/stiff still. Somehow I ended up with a firm flaccid.
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This is a very common case of thrombosis, mild, with a sudden, natural constriction failure due to stressed vein depressurization. The pelvic floor may be a factor, but what caused it was definitely the veins' inability to continue natural constriction. Switching from pressurized edging to masturbation placed quite a bit of stress on the veno-occlusive mechanism, weakening the veno-occlusion. This is why this community, especially DLD, indicated not to go full blast on masturbation after a long routine of 30 minutes, especially pumping.

DanielSan705 said:
It could have been too much and pelvic floor strain too after the Orgasm. I full recovered, and after the firm flaccid recovered I think i gained some size, not a lot but a little bit of girth. Ever since then I've been continuing manual exercises + water pumping and making some slow gains.
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Make sure to use water pumping at a lower pressure, between -5.5 inHg (-140 mmHg) and -6.5 inHg (-165 mmHg), using water up to 104F (40C) for a few sets, roughly 3 to 5 minutes. Why? This is to rebuild stronger erection quality and train the blood vessels at higher repressurization, gaining greater rigidity. Something to think about for PE routines as you progress forward.
DanielSan705 said:
Im 33, no PDE5 meds, just have experimented with cycling some horny goat weed. I drink pomegranate juice NOT from concentrate(pure), consume a balance of milk, eggs, meat, nuts and seeds ( pumpkin seeds/brazil nuts). Thank you for the reference to the personal logs. I also sometimes seem to turtle throughout the day, which may be a symptom of the initial firm flaccid incident. I notice when I lay down in bed, i turtle quite a lot, laying on my back. I end up doin some stretches in bed and it fixes it temporarily.
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Horny goat weed does contain phytoestrogenic compounds, even though it does boost your blood pressure. Rather than using horny goat weed, switch to L-citrulline instead. I normally drink 3g 40 minutes before PE routines. It's a great precursor for blood flow and a bioavailable resource delivery system. It's very sour, but much more effective than citrulline alone. If you want to use citrulline only, switch down to 2g, adding 500 mg magnesium with 500 mg of Vit C. Look for the best and most absorbable Vit C and magnesium you have on your side.

Pomegranate juice is great, but think about bromelain-based and beet juices.


DanielSan705 said:
I also sometimes seem to turtle throughout the day, which may be a symptom of the initial firm flaccid incident. I notice when I lay down in bed, i turtle quite a lot, laying on my back. I end up doin some stretches in bed and it fixes it temporarily.
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This is common to the best of us, even after decades of PE. Temperature and sensitivity play the parts causing turtling. But lying down, flat, where blood pressure equalizes, I can see why you're thinking pelvic floor. Have you experiment with slow squash jelq, even fast C-jelqs (similar to the penile exercises focusing on angiogenesis discussions), while performing 1-second fast kegel, with 1-second fast reverse kegel to prime the blood volume at the pelvic floor? If you need more info on what needs to be done here, let us know. We'll come up with experimental method for you.

DanielSan705 said:
Wearing underwear with lots of room is helping me from turtling, and increasing nitric oxide. I would say mild turtling. Bundled stretches and squalsh jelqs really help.
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L-citrulline may be the ticket for you, or beet juice. Horny goat weed, in the long run, can hurt you more than help. Something to research and valid on your end:

Combination:
  • HMB + L-citrulline + Vit D3 throughout the day, 1:1:300 UIs ratio at 1g:1g:300 UIs. This promotes tissues and blood vessel strengthening and reinforcement. Space out every 4 hours. 40 minutes of 3g L-citrulline before any routine.

We can go further into various discussions about cellular reactivity and engagement using supplements. Our brother @Haursen has a massive log on it.

Haursen

Progress thread Thread 'Haursen's Comeback'

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oldandlively said:
This is a very common case of thrombosis, mild, with a sudden, natural constriction failure due to stressed vein depressurization. The pelvic floor may be a factor, but what caused it was definitely the veins' inability to continue natural constriction. Switching from pressurized edging to masturbation placed quite a bit of stress on the veno-occlusive mechanism, weakening the veno-occlusion. This is why this community, especially DLD, indicated not to go full blast on masturbation after a long routine of 30 minutes, especially pumping.



Make sure to use water pumping at a lower pressure, between -5.5 inHg (-140 mmHg) and -6.5 inHg (-165 mmHg), using water up to 104F (40C) for a few sets, roughly 3 to 5 minutes. Why? This is to rebuild stronger erection quality and train the blood vessels at higher repressurization, gaining greater rigidity. Something to think about for PE routines as you progress forward.


Horny goat weed does contain phytoestrogenic compounds, even though it does boost your blood pressure. Rather than using horny goat weed, switch to L-citrulline instead. I normally drink 3g 40 minutes before PE routines. It's a great precursor for blood flow and a bioavailable resource delivery system. It's very sour, but much more effective than citrulline alone. If you want to use citrulline only, switch down to 2g, adding 500 mg magnesium with 500 mg of Vit C. Look for the best and most absorbable Vit C and magnesium you have on your side.

Pomegranate juice is great, but think about bromelain-based and beet juices.




This is common to the best of us, even after decades of PE. Temperature and sensitivity play the parts causing turtling. But lying down, flat, where blood pressure equalizes, I can see why you're thinking pelvic floor. Have you experiment with slow squash jelq, even fast C-jelqs (similar to the penile exercises focusing on angiogenesis discussions), while performing 1-second fast kegel, with 1-second fast reverse kegel to prime the blood volume at the pelvic floor? If you need more info on what needs to be done here, let us know. We'll come up with experimental method for you.



L-citrulline may be the ticket for you, or beet juice. Horny goat weed, in the long run, can hurt you more than help. Something to research and valid on your end:

Combination:
  • HMB + L-citrulline + Vit D3 throughout the day, 1:1:300 UIs ratio at 1g:1g:300 UIs. This promotes tissues and blood vessel strengthening and reinforcement. Space out every 4 hours. 40 minutes of 3g L-citrulline before any routine.

We can go further into various discussions about cellular reactivity and engagement using supplements. Our brother @Haursen has a massive log on it.

Haursen

Progress thread Thread 'Haursen's Comeback'

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Wow, Good to know about Horny Goat Weed and the phytoestrogens, I had no idea about that. I did use L Citrulline Malate in the past and I found it to be great, I'm going to the supplement store tomorrow to pick some up. Allmax nutrition has 240 servings at 2G per serving for like 34.99 or 39.99 Canadian. I actually like the sour taste, satisfies my sweet tooth for sour keys lol. Maybe I'll try mixing some in with the POM juice and beetroot. I have a jar of Beetroot juice NOT from concentrate with lemon juice added in the fridge.

Is Citrulline Malate fine? Good to know regarding the info on the slow squalsh Jelq and kegels, I'll definitely try that out and check out the comeback progress forum.

Pumping has been going great, I'm noticing a lot less red dots which I only ever got on the left side of the shaft just below the glans. For a while I was getting too many red dots but I adjusted by pumping at less pressures, less duration sets. Progressing the pressure and duration of sets. Performing bundled stretches and slow squalsh jelqs as well as some general massaging before pumping has also really helped with no more red dots. Pretty much doing 3 sets of 5 Minutes and massaging in between. At the end, I put my diy cock ring which is just some womens hair ties, their cotton and soft, give me a good constriction but not too much at all and leave it on for a bit while i get ready for work.

Im just starting more of the manual routines, between the cheek stretches. May be ordering an an extender and all day stretcher in the future. Working on making a DIY hanger to hang small weights. I have these small 1lb sandbag weights that fit into my weighted vest, trying to make something to hang them with.

Good to know regarding the mechanism of how I likely injured/got hard flaccid in the first place, thank you for the explanation and for all your information.
 
needkitkats said:
Vitamin D has some potential in this regard.

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I get tons of sun daily from working, but im very interesting in supplementing to add even more Vit D3. Getting 50,000 Units of D3 seems like thats going to be a lot to take as per the study. However, the gains made from the participants were pretty solid, comparable to pumps. Thank you for linking that study. Maybe since I get lots of sun daily, I won't need 50,000 Units and can maybe start with half that amount.
 
I did some more research and discovered some interesting articles regarding L-Carnitine, specifically acetyl L carnitine, can improve erections, strength and duration, as well as blood flow. I think its a fairly cheap supplement too. Im going to stack it with Vitamin D and Citurlline Malate, will report back results, may try for 30 days.
 
DanielSan705 said:
Is Citrulline Malate fine? Good to know regarding the info on the slow squalsh Jelq and kegels, I'll definitely try that out and check out the comeback progress forum.
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Yes, it's perfectly fine. I have 2kg bag of it, and I drink it daily for my own health.

DanielSan705 said:
Pumping has been going great, I'm noticing a lot less red dots which I only ever got on the left side of the shaft just below the glans. For a while I was getting too many red dots but I adjusted by pumping at less pressures, less duration sets. Progressing the pressure and duration of sets. Performing bundled stretches and slow squalsh jelqs as well as some general massaging before pumping has also really helped with no more red dots. Pretty much doing 3 sets of 5 Minutes and massaging in between. At the end, I put my diy cock ring which is just some womens hair ties, their cotton and soft, give me a good constriction but not too much at all and leave it on for a bit while i get ready for work.
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Just ease up on the pressure, and you'll do fine. Make sure to note when the red dots start to appear, and crank it down by -0.5 inHg. That should resolve most capillary rupture issues.

DanielSan705 said:
Im just starting more of the manual routines, between the cheek stretches. May be ordering an an extender and all day stretcher in the future. Working on making a DIY hanger to hang small weights. I have these small 1lb sandbag weights that fit into my weighted vest, trying to make something to hang them with.
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Very nice. You're doing weight hanging. We all do that as well. If you're not using the Length Master plates, you can use other leather strap or penis extender strapping platform to hang as well. Think of the static hanging weight like free weights you're using for weight lifting. Don't just use static weight, but dynamic weights as well. For example, the best static loading starts at 2.5lbs. Increase by 0.5lb every 2 to 3 weeks. Once you reach around 5lbs, hang the 5lbs static weight for 20 minutes, and decrease the weight back to 3.5lbs for 15 minutes, and down to 2 or 2.5lbs for as long as you want. Never stay at heavy static weight past 5lbs for more than 40 minutes, unless you're one of the extreme veteran here that already have over a decade of PE under your belt.

DanielSan705 said:
Good to know regarding the mechanism of how I likely injured/got hard flaccid in the first place, thank you for the explanation and for all your information.
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