Combat Conditioning

anyone here do it? i did it for 2 weeks straight down in florida and i got much of my old body back, and i felt better than ever, i feel the 8 pack under my thin layer of fat that i'm burnin..thank god. and my chest and arms are looking more defined. legs are back in shape, haven't been this fit since i was 12 and doin karate!

if you also do it, isn't bridging a BITCH?!?! i can't seem to get my back to fully arch and i end up cursing and shooting out foul language when i fall. and i can do MANY normal pushups but those hindu pushups are very tough for me.

so if you got sucess stories or tips or just wanna blabb or brag about sucess i'll be happy to hear the stories. it's nice to know if you're not the only one of the site doin it, i'm sure there are some of your out there.

Hey bud, Ive been thinkin about getting into something like this lately, do you know a website or forums or somethin for it I could check out? This is one of those bodyweight training programs right?

I downloaded Matt Furey's combat conditioning videos off Limewire. I haven't started it yet. I've heard some of his excersizes are bad for your knees like those hindu squats and stuff but I'm not sure. Let us know how you get one with it samzman.

u want to know how to get into combat condition?
Look up bas rutten.
This bloke isnt the world heavy weight boxer or even wrestler. None of that single dicipline shit.
He was king of pancrase and the UFC champion.
U want to know how to get into fight condition this is the one and only person to mimmic.
MMA training is the hardest there is and this man is the best.
I've got his two big books of combat and all of his videos, including his pub fighting guide and conditioning tapes.
Look him up on bear share or limewire.

Jubei,I've seen him fight and his fighting skills are excellent.

Can you get his books too on Bearshare?

jubei said:

u want to know how to get into combat condition?
Look up bas rutten.
This bloke isnt the world heavy weight boxer or even wrestler. None of that single dicipline shit.
He was king of pancrase and the UFC champion.
U want to know how to get into fight condition this is the one and only person to mimmic.
MMA training is the hardest there is and this man is the best.
I've got his two big books of combat and all of his videos, including his pub fighting guide and conditioning tapes.
Look him up on bear share or limewire.

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Bas is the real deal, from being a fight fan anyhow. So what is the best stuff I can get for the conditioning aspect from his material?

BAS is the MAN! I actually had the pleasure of meeting him last year when I helped my friend on his MMA documentry. Great guy, and very charismatic. He gave us a free lesson on his famed liver and spleen puches, also gave us his 'Bas Rutten's Big DVD of Combat', and let me say its some of the best instruction in the game. He actually has a lot of the same exercises that Matt Furey has in Combat Conditioning, and some that most would say is just amazing. I just got his older stuff off of limewire. For a workout look up "Bas Rutten Superior Free Fight Techniques Vol. 6 Workout MMA." I would say his exercises and workout is that "old school never give up and never surrender" type, which is just the kind I like.

I just got the Combat Conditioning off Limewire, and I have to say some of the exercises I have done before and or still doing. I've been in martial arts since I was 7, and have taken some physically demanding arts. The top ones would be Capeoria and MMA. Capeoria was so demanding b/c of the need to be able to control your own body wgt like a gymnist and be able to strike with power from any position. Capeoria had a ton of hindu squats and deep squated leg movements, and I never had much of a problem with my knees. Actually, I had surgery for a fractured underside of my left kneecap 2 years before I took up Capeoria, and can't recall having any pain during my training. I only have knee pains after running on hard surfaces. Plus the worst exercise for your knees are those squats were you don't hit or break 90 degrees(half squats), for you have to realize that your knee acts as a break so when you don't go to 90 degrees you are putting tremendous pressure on your knees instead of the quads. Which is the reason why jogging can causes knee problems. Improper running techniques do to running shoe designs causing joggers/runners to run heel to toe, and causing a sharp force on the knees. Imagine all that weight on one leg with only the knees to stop it, so it is best to to land on the ball to the mid sole which allows for a bend in the kneecap and better braking control.

yeah i got all of bas' stuff off of bearshare (same as limewire). just look up bas rutten. I got about 5 gb of instructionals.

It would be sensational to meet him. He seems like a really great guy from what ive seen of his commentary of the pride gp. Also his fight against randleman for the ufc belt was amazing. He fought on with a very broken nose and won the decision.

well now, i'm glad to see all the fighters come out and about here. hehe. i'm just using this to get back into shape, i already learned my stuff, it's still hardwired in there, i can handle myself pretty well. however, i'm workin on studying more styles. pretty much i'm into JKD more than anything right now. the ufc guys are fuckin crazy...awsome fights and the skill does show in there. the ground fighters always have the upper hand, so it seems. it never stays on the feet fully. so after seein all that i think i'm going to have to get into jujitsu. i've been into this since i was 5, and the martial arts did change my life and send me into a new direction in these past years. and i noticed the more i know about the martial arts the less i need to use it. in the beginning it's all about knowing how to kick someones ass, and later on when you know what the hell ur doin, it stops being that and turns into what you do NOT to get into a fight. but it's always good to know you can throw down :D

I personally believe that using that stuff as a complete system in itself is inadequate if you are ALREADY in really good shape. I tryed it as a replacement for lifting and running, then for just lifting, then I only lifted on some days and did this others, then I went back to lifting and running and got my strength back! I think it is something great to start with though, it was mildly taxing and a good supplement for fight training.

bIgjOe said:

I personally believe that using that stuff as a complete system in itself is inadequate if you are ALREADY in really good shape. I tryed it as a replacement for lifting and running, then for just lifting, then I only lifted on some days and did this others, then I went back to lifting and running and got my strength back! I think it is something great to start with though, it was mildly taxing and a good supplement for fight training.

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Joe,

I think you are right in some ways, but miss part of the story. Bodyweight exercises are better suited for people who already have FUNCTIONAL STRENGTH, but can also be initiated by those without much functional strength, with some difficulty. My suggestion to anyone starting this type of training is to begin on a solid weight training program to build up some strength and try to do the exercises on your off days. This way, you will still be building strength when you can only do a few reps/two reps/no reps. When you have a solid foundation of strength, the combat training can take you to new levels while maintaining most of your strength you acheived from weight lifting, and add more balance, flexibility, and endurance in the process.

Martial arts takes a different type of strength than Met-RX World's Strongest Man. Martial artists need quickness, balance, flexibility, mental toughness, and body awareness. I think that Matt Furey's combat conditioning does a great job of building these qualities, moreso than most weight lifting regiments. A good 5 x 5 system of compound weight lifting is a good supplement to combat conditioning as well.

Samz,

I have been doing combat conditioning on and off for six years, and for the past year I have been going all-on. I can say your bridge WILL improve, it will just take time. Work on using your hands to assist you and also bridge up on your toes. Work on touching your nose to the ground. Don't worry about how long you hold it at first until you can sustain the nosed-out position for a considerable amount of time. Once you can hold this position for three minutes, you can advance.

The next time, try crossing your arms as you fall into the nosed-out position. If that becomes easy, try flattening your feet. Once that is easy, continually work your feet closer to your head as you bridge.

I recommend combat abs as well, and would actually say this is even better than combat conditioning itself. If you think your core is in good shape--think again. Try combat abs and see if they are really what you think they are!

If you have any specific questions about these programs, PM me, because I have quite a bit of experience with all of the exercises in the manuals.