Bathmate discoloration - Don't be alarmed!!!

When I pump I keep all air out of the pump. It may take a little practice but it is possible to have no air bubbles inside the tube.

jorgsmashh;747767 said:

If you have a certain volume of air in the chamber so that you pump up to max pressure but still no water comes out, if I'm correct, you are cutting yourself short on pressure. The whole idea of the water is that it is a better medium to create the vaccum. So, like I said if I'm correct, if you were to replace that air space with water, you would be increasing pressure because the air is limiting that amount of pressure you can achieve. I have noticed myself if the BM is completely full, the pump feels better and more pressure than if there is air in the pump. Hell, if I have a bad seal and even just a few tiny bubbles seep in, I notice and feel a drop in pressure. But who am I to teach you have gained over an inch in girth lol.

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I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. When I am in the pump and fully pumped, as far as I dare go or can stand, there is still an inch or two of air space between the glans and the end of the tube. In order to remove all air above my glans, something would have to replace it, right? And I suspect that would have to be my penis, which would likely explode LOL! There were several experiments where I had to play around with the amount of water to use, and sometimes I used too much and I pumped out water with the VV. But the expansion and extension on my penis was no different. And even though the VV is a great "pump" so to speak, it is nothing compared to the Kaplan electric I had many years ago, which could blow your dick right up, water, or air. No difference (except drawing water into an electric pump could prove fatal!). In any event, I keep my dick fully submerged with water, and the pump is as high as I can stand, or dare to go. It takes a day or two just for the fluid retention to recede. I even notice the VV valve is collapsing, pointing to a limit to how much it can pump, so I don't think it could pump much more. And, like I said, no mess, no fuss, and no hanging around the bathtub

Plus, having gone through more pumps than I can count on both hands in the past 40 years has convinced me that they are an "assist" to increasing girth, but most certainly not the most important. Good old fashion Jelq, compression squeezes, SSQ's, clamping and other means of manual work as developed by pioneers like DLD and others are, in my opinion, much more conducive to "real" girth increases than those very temporary and somewhat illusory ones produced by pumping. If you don't believe me, cease all manual work, and just use a pump for several months, several times a week. You will be amazed at the increase in girth during that time. BUT!!!! Stop pumping for a couple of weeks and see what happens. You will not be impressed. Do your manual work, use the pump as an add-on. There you will find the results you are seeking. That has been my experience. Hope this helps

Lookn4girth;747772 said:

When I pump I keep all air out of the pump. It may take a little practice but it is possible to have no air bubbles inside the tube.

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This may be true, but I'm not sure it's relevant. See my post above.

jorgsmashh;747668 said:

I know there is tons of information out there on using the Vac mod and the best way to set it up. I'm wondering how to use it without applying any downward pressure on the valve and releasing pressure. I get the idea of it but it seems to me in order to use it you would need to press it down on the tip of the BM and it is very easy to accidentally let out some pressure.

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If you wish to keep the valve assembly intact, use a skin cone with the vac mod.
https://tlctugger.com/product/bathmate-conversion-cone/

Fillerup;747775 said:

This may be true, but I'm not sure it's relevant. See my post above.

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I may have misinterpreted his post but I thought he was saying that his session felt better and he felt like the pressure was greater when the pump had no air inside the tube. I was simply agreeing with the method that he was using. It was my understanding that the BM intended use was to keep air out of the tube during the pumping process to allow the pressure to be dispersed more evenly across the surface of the penis. I hope this is correct because if not, I have been using it incorrectly for the last 3 months, lol

No, you have not been using it "incorrectly." I'm just suggesting that, IMHO, it doesn't make much difference, provided your penis is completely submerged in water. If there is a difference, I haven't noticed it. And the convenience of being able to sit back in my living room and use the pump instead of being confined to the bathtub makes it, well, worth it. To me. But again, I am not convinced that pumping, at least by itself, is an effective method of permanent girth increase. That is why the majority of my girth work is manual, and I will generally uses the hydromax for 1 or 2 5-minute sessions. Sometimes I even think of the bathmate as a 5-minute warm-down after my main girths session because of the warm water.

Fillerup;747782 said:

No, you have not been using it "incorrectly." I'm just suggesting that, IMHO, it doesn't make much difference, provided your penis is completely submerged in water. If there is a difference, I haven't noticed it. And the convenience of being able to sit back in my living room and use the pump instead of being confined to the bathtub makes it, well, worth it. To me. But again, I am not convinced that pumping, at least by itself, is an effective method of permanent girth increase. That is why the majority of my girth work is manual, and I will generally uses the hydromax for 1 or 2 5-minute sessions. Sometimes I even think of the bathmate as a 5-minute warm-down after my main girths session because of the warm water.

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I understand what you are saying. I do other exercises for girth along with my pumping as well

The beauty of The BM Products is the use of a denser medium (water) to impart force (pressure) enough to overcome your current size (both length and width). H2O is also a more 'stable' compound which imparts a more even distribution of pressure. The science works.

Here's my 'how-to':
Completely fill the cylinder with warm water
Enter the cylinder with the highest EQ possible (which will displace a significant amount of water)
Press lightly against pelvis and find that 'comfortable' spot where you're centered in the cylinder and feel an even seal on your body
Take the VV pump and slowly draw water out of the cylinder (It takes 2-3 pumps to create a strong enough seal for me to opt for 'hands-free')
At this point I'll do my normal shower duties and let The BM 'hang' for 8-10 minutes
Remove and squeeze/jelq/massage for 2-3 minutes
Fill and attach as before, but this set will be at 100% for 8-10 mins. (there will be a bit of air trapped at the tip due to standing and the angle being about 45*)
Remove and squeeze
Third set is the same as the second.

TaDa!

Big Schwanz Acht;747788 said:

The beauty of The BM Products is the use of a denser medium (water) to impart force (pressure) enough to overcome your current size (both length and width). H2O is also a more 'stable' compound which imparts a more even distribution of pressure. The science works.

Here's my 'how-to':
Completely fill the cylinder with warm water
Enter the cylinder with the highest EQ possible (which will displace a significant amount of water)
Press lightly against pelvis and find that 'comfortable' spot where you're centered in the cylinder and feel an even seal on your body
Take the VV pump and slowly draw water out of the cylinder (It takes 2-3 pumps to create a strong enough seal for me to opt for 'hands-free')
At this point I'll do my normal shower duties and let The BM 'hang' for 8-10 minutes
Remove and squeeze/jelq/massage for 2-3 minutes
Fill and attach as before, but this set will be at 100% for 8-10 mins. (there will be a bit of air trapped at the tip due to standing and the angle being about 45*)
Remove and squeeze
Third set is the same as the second.

TaDa!

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BathMaster Speaks! Thank BSA for the instruct!

So if you sit on the couch and pump so that you don't have to hang out by the bathroom, but you only pump for 5 minutes, don't you have to then just get back up and go to the sink or bathroom to remove the pump? And then you take your break and do some manual work and then go back into the pump and sit on the couch but just for another 5 minutes? Seems like to me the process of needing to remove the pump every 5 minutes makes using it anywhere but the bathroom inconvenient.

jorgsmashh;747853 said:

Seems like to me the process of needing to remove the pump every 5 minutes makes using it anywhere but the bathroom inconvenient

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some use it with just air while others have devised a bucket/trough system that captures spills and provides replenishment

As I mentioned earlier I have been traction wrapping recently for up to 8 hours a day. I'm now looking for a method to keep my dick engorged and nice and full for long periods of time. Similar to a cable clamp but nowhere near max pressure and something a little smaller. When I wrap, my dangler dangles lower but it stays thin and lame. I want something to keep it a bit fatter throughout the day. I tried a silicon cock ring under a wrap but that caused irritation after a few hours and it was too stretchy to where it didn't even do anything. Any ideas? I wanna have a nice plump soft bulge all day haha.

jorgsmashh;747870 said:

Any ideas? I wanna have a nice plump soft bulge all day haha.

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try a cheap-o hair-tie and go 'whole package'

BSA's tip is a good one! Very cost effective. If you go this route, choose a tie with no metal parts and preferably a thicker band! Selection is wide.
I made a "comparison" between some rings, maybe you'll find one to your liking or get more ideas? http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-products-and-reviews/89253-my-view-on-several-cockrings.html

Big Schwanz Acht;747884 said:

try a cheap-o hair-tie and go 'whole package'

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these are the best, they do not cause any pinching or pain and can become very tight.

jorgsmashh;747853 said:

So if you sit on the couch and pump so that you don't have to hang out by the bathroom, but you only pump for 5 minutes, don't you have to then just get back up and go to the sink or bathroom to remove the pump? And then you take your break and do some manual work and then go back into the pump and sit on the couch but just for another 5 minutes? Seems like to me the process of needing to remove the pump every 5 minutes makes using it anywhere but the bathroom inconvenient.

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Well, I guess I'd rather sit in front of my comp, read posts from other MOS members, maybe check my email etc, rather than sit and stare at bathroom fixtures and watch the clock. But you're right, you do have to go back to the bathroom to withdraw and drain the BM. But, that's about 20 feet away for me, and I usually want to dry off a bit before proceeding to further manual work.

Fillerup;748017 said:

Well, I guess I'd rather sit in front of my comp, read posts from other MOS members, maybe check my email etc, rather than sit and stare at bathroom fixtures and watch the clock.

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...or put on an 'inspirational' video on your tablet and shower/watch/PE all in one-fell-swoop

Fillerup;748017 said:

Well, I guess I'd rather sit in front of my comp, read posts from other MOS members, maybe check my email etc, rather than sit and stare at bathroom fixtures and watch the clock. But you're right, you do have to go back to the bathroom to withdraw and drain the BM. But, that's about 20 feet away for me, and I usually want to dry off a bit before proceeding to further manual work.

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Yup, when you multitask time flies back. Movies, videos, reading, etc. will make mindless PE easy!

or my personal favorite: video games while using BM

ULTIM8GAINZ;750928 said:

or my personal favorite: video games while using BM

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I find that anything that can occupy my mind would allow me to go so much longer than if I was counting minutes. I can pull on a Netflix marathon and get hours of work in!