Air pumping Bathmate

Is it ok to pump without water in the hydrom max from time to time?

You can use it dry. I found it to be a little uncomfortable at the base where the comfort ring presses into my pubic bone when I increased the vacuum pressure, skin friction. A little lube/vitamin E cream etc run around the rim would remedy that.

VoorheesXIII said:

You can use it dry. I found it to be a little uncomfortable at the base where the comfort ring presses into my pubic bone when I increased the vacuum pressure, skin friction. A little lube/vitamin E cream etc run around the rim would remedy that.

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Thanks brother ✊

Dry or wet is fine

I pump dry most of the time

Pro Tip: buy a wine topper pump from Amazon for less than $10. Cover the top fo the hydrop pump and you'll get more suction out of the product than you ever could with conventional water methods. Just don't over do it.
I'm using a Bathmate model from almost 6 years ago, so I hope the current models have the same size pressure release top that the wine topper will cover. I've seen great results but I'm not measuring myself - just spend 10-15 mins with the suction pumped med-high and your veins/arteries will thank you.


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Bobadook said:

Pro Tip: buy a wine topper pump from Amazon for less than $10. Cover the top fo the hydrop pump and you'll get more suction out of the product than you ever could with conventional water methods. Just don't over do it.
I'm using a Bathmate model from almost 6 years ago, so I hope the current models have the same size pressure release top that the wine topper will cover. I've seen great results but I'm not measuring myself - just spend 10-15 mins with the suction pumped med-high and your veins/arteries will thank you.

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The Bathmate HydroXtreme models have the same amount of vacuum power as the VacuVin mod.
I have both models (both: HydroXtreme and Hydromax) so that's my source of reference. But I haven't measured the vacuum/pressure, but they felt the same. This imply that you do not use the comfort insert. With the comfort insert you will have reduction of maximum expansion and pressure.

Here are all the threads I could find that mentioning the;
VacuVin modification.
🔗 Bathmate mod.
🔗 bathmate vacuvin mod..
🔗 Wine Mod For Dummies!
🔗 Which is better- Hydromax Xtreme vs. Hercules w/ vacuvin
🔗 Bathmate and Penomet - The Vacu-vin modification clarification
🔗 x40 or xtreme9?
🔗 Bathmate and Penomet - The Vacu-vin modification clarification
🔗 Bathmate..Does it REALLY work?
🔗 Converting an X40 to hand valve or vacuvin
🔗 Recommend an air pump?
🔗 No erection with bathmate (post #24)
🔗 Help! I'm New!! (post #10)
🔗 The Best Pumping Routine for a Thicker Cock….penis ... (Page 2 | Post #37)
🔗 Recommend an air pump?
🔗 I have searched and searched for an answer about the wine vac
🔗 is there anybody that pumped for years? (post #2)
🔗 x40 equivalent?
🔗 bathmate and jelqing routine (Page 1 | Post #2)
🔗 8" BPEL x 6" MSEG and 2.16" wide - X40 or X50
🔗 Pump once a day for 15-20 minutes, medium pressure (Post #10)
🔗 NEW - MOS MityVac HydroVac Penis Pump Line (Page 3 | Post 41))
🔗 Having beginner trouble using Hydromax 5
🔗 Bathmate..Does it REALLY work?
🔗 0.75 inches girth gain in 4 months.
🔗 0.75 inches girth gain in 4 months (Post #7)
🔗 Holy wine vac pump!!!
🔗 Time invested VS Gains?

If you only have the regular Bathmate pump without the hand-ball pump I recommend you to implement the VacuVin modification (short: VacuVin mod).

Here is the hand-ball pump, there are 2 versions of this pump. The one you see here with the valve at the ball, and the one without the valve. I don't know which one is the newest version. I would prefer to implement the VacuVin mod, much easier to deal with. Having this hose attached to the valve constantly during your pumping is annoying, because if you remove it you risk loosing pressure. But with the VacuVin mod on the Hydromax version of the pumps, you can remove the pump when you are inside the cylinder.

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Picture title: The version of the hand-ball pump that I got.
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Picure title: Comparison between old and new hand-ball pump.
Okay I see now, the version with the valve is the old version.
Okay I got the old version of the hand-ball pump.
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Personally I prefer air-pumping now (got a cheap pump, I just need a better pump handle, or just a new pump system all together), I find that the Bathmate hurt my skin more (without the comfort insert), and previously when I was pumping regularly with the Bathmate (every day), my penis ended up looking like a elephant proboscis, which wasn't a good look. I also ended up like someone had chewed on my penis, and sometimes I was on the brink of bleeding.
Now when I have got a bigger penis with the help of LengthMaster 3.0, and got rid of this elephant proboscis look. I don't believe I will risk to get it again, and use the Bathmate any longer. Even if the fast gains with it was insane. Maybe before sex in some situations, but never for gaining size.

I would preferably now go with; MITYVAC - WET AND DRY PENIS VACUUM PUMP SYSTEM which also allows you to pump with water (it's in the name) with the water trap that is included. The water trap is a tiny container between the pump handle and the cylinder/tube.
There is less risk of deformation as well, when you are pumping with a cylinder that got an even surface throughout it's inside. I have heard many men that also say that you can get the "mushroom shape" (your penis deforms like a mushroom inside the pump) from pumping with Bathmate pumps. I have also experienced this. If this are temporary inside the Bathmate cylinder/pump, what is preventing this temporary deformation of becoming permanent? As we all know: Temporary gains, leads to permanent gains. That's a golden rule in penis enlargment.

The reason for this deformation as I said before, I believe has to do with the uneven surface inside the pump when you remove the comfort insert.
I could not personally never use the comfort insert, it didn't work for me. I remember in the beginning that I got really frustrated for not getting the expansion I presume you should get with a penis pump. Removing the comfort insert fixed this problem.

Also my penis got stuck on the end of the pipe of the comfort insert, but also I got non expansion with that thing in the way. That is; The comfort insert prevented expansion in girth, which also prevented expansion in length. Remember that your penis are expanding like a balloon 🎈 and
then your penis will get stuck more or less in the rubber creases (we call this bastard: the "GATOR"🐊), and this cause the deformation of your penis.

This is my theory at least, because when I was pumping and doing girth work with Bathmate. I expanded hard into the "GATOR", and immediately when this happen my penis would deform like the shape of a mushroom. But if I instead winded a narrow piece bandage at the base of my penis, and in this way prevented expansion at my base, that is: so the base of my penis didn't expanded as hard into the rubber creases (the "GATOR"), my penis wouldn't deform like a mushroom. This is telling me all about the Bathmate I need to know. It was not intended to be used in the way I was using it. I was trying to something with it, that it wasn't designed to do. That is, to increase my girth permanently. And I can tell you it worked, but it was painful.

Bathmate was originally created to help people with poor EQ (Erection Quality), and one of the people (John Oakes) that started Bathmate had a buddy that had been in a motorcycle accident, and he created the Bathmate pump in order to help him and other people with EQ problems. So in my personally opinion, I don't believe that you are supposed to remove the "comfort insert", because the pump is not even designed to help you create the environment to change your size, it's main purpose is only to stimulate blood flow and increase EQ. There is an interview on Bathmate's website and this is what John Oakes say (I quote him here):

I don't post the URL, if you want to find it all you will find it. I'm not here to promote any products (not allowed on the Forums).
Q: Is the interviewer.
A: Is John Oakes.

Q: Are the results long lasting?

A: This is a question that I often get asked and it is one with no definitive answer. I prefer to look at it from this angle, after use, the results are noticeable for many hours, when either flaccid or erect, but the effect could well disappear if you stop using the Bathmate. It’s very much like going to the gym and weight training, you personally don’t notice your increased strength and size over a few months period.

This is due to the gradual gains over this period and it’s possibly only when someone comments on your bigger build or better performance in the gym do you take notice. This is just like using the hydropump. Each time you use it there are fractional gains in erection hardness and the size of the erection, which like the gym give you the foundation to become stronger and larger, but if you stop going to the Gym your muscle tone and development will fade. This is why I use Bathmate almost daily to maintain my optimum size and hardness.

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I did marked some text with red for it to stick out more. So my question to you is:
- Do you really think that Bathmate pumps are designed to increase your penis size permanently? If it was, then why haven't they changed the design for maximum expansion without extreme discomfort?

Don't get me wrong. Bathmate was the pump that got me into penis enlargement and finally got me to find MOS, so happy for that.
I was able to increase my girth substantially with the Bathmate pumps, length not so much. But for me I can't use Bathmate pumps any longer for increasing my girth, due to the problems I mentioned in this post. I just share information, please don't get offended by this post. I love Bathmate they have changed my life. Without them I do not believe I would ever have made my penis thick so fast (I was abusing the Bathmate on my penis. I was pumping up pressure to the brink of panic). I would not even have found MOS (mattersofsize.com).
In the past I was not aware of penis enlargement and the possibilities with it.

Hope this post was helpful.
I'm open for discussion.

*Edit: Oh man I got way outside the thread topic again, but I hope this is helpful in some way or form.

squirt_inducer_man said:

The Bathmate HydroXtreme models have the same amount of vacuum power as the VacuVin mod.
I have both models (both: HydroXtreme and Hydromax) so that's my source of reference. But I haven't measured the vacuum/pressure, but they felt the same. This imply that you do not use the comfort insert. With the comfort insert you will have reduction of maximum expansion and pressure.

Here are all the threads I could find that mentioning the;
VacuVin modification.
🔗 Bathmate mod.
🔗 bathmate vacuvin mod..
🔗 Wine Mod For Dummies!
🔗 Which is better- Hydromax Xtreme vs. Hercules w/ vacuvin
🔗 Bathmate and Penomet - The Vacu-vin modification clarification
🔗 x40 or xtreme9?
🔗 Bathmate and Penomet - The Vacu-vin modification clarification
🔗 Bathmate..Does it REALLY work?
🔗 Converting an X40 to hand valve or vacuvin
🔗 Recommend an air pump?
🔗 No erection with bathmate (post #24)
🔗 Help! I'm New!! (post #10)
🔗 The Best Pumping Routine for a Thicker Cock….penis ... (Page 2 | Post #37)
🔗 Recommend an air pump?
🔗 I have searched and searched for an answer about the wine vac
🔗 is there anybody that pumped for years? (post #2)
🔗 x40 equivalent?
🔗 bathmate and jelqing routine (Page 1 | Post #2)
🔗 8" BPEL x 6" MSEG and 2.16" wide - X40 or X50
🔗 Pump once a day for 15-20 minutes, medium pressure (Post #10)
🔗 NEW - MOS MityVac HydroVac Penis Pump Line (Page 3 | Post 41))
🔗 Having beginner trouble using Hydromax 5
🔗 Bathmate..Does it REALLY work?
🔗 0.75 inches girth gain in 4 months.
🔗 0.75 inches girth gain in 4 months (Post #7)
🔗 Holy wine vac pump!!!
🔗 Time invested VS Gains?

If you only have the regular Bathmate pump without the hand-ball pump I recommend you to implement the VacuVin modification (short: VacuVin mod).

Here is the hand-ball pump, there are 2 versions of this pump. The one you see here with the valve at the ball, and the one without the valve. I don't know which one is the newest version. I would prefer to implement the VacuVin mod, much easier to deal with. Having this hose attached to the valve constantly during your pumping is annoying, because if you remove it you risk loosing pressure. But with the VacuVin mod on the Hydromax version of the pumps, you can remove the pump when you are inside the cylinder.

⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯
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Picture title: The version of the hand-ball pump that I got.
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View attachment 1834065
Picure title: Comparison between old and new hand-ball pump.
Okay I see now, the version with the valve is the old version.
Okay I got the old version of the hand-ball pump.
⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

Personally I prefer air-pumping now (got a cheap pump, I just need a better pump handle, or just a new pump system all together), I find that the Bathmate hurt my skin more (without the comfort insert), and previously when I was pumping regularly with the Bathmate (every day), my penis ended up looking like a elephant proboscis, which wasn't a good look. I also ended up like someone had chewed on my penis, and sometimes I was on the brink of bleeding.
Now when I have got a bigger penis with the help of LengthMaster 3.0, and got rid of this elephant proboscis look. I don't believe I will risk to get it again, and use the Bathmate any longer. Even if the fast gains with it was insane. Maybe before sex in some situations, but never for gaining size.

I would preferably now go with; MITYVAC - WET AND DRY PENIS VACUUM PUMP SYSTEM which also allows you to pump with water (it's in the name) with the water trap that is included. The water trap is a tiny container between the pump handle and the cylinder/tube.
There is less risk of deformation as well, when you are pumping with a cylinder that got an even surface throughout it's inside. I have heard many men that also say that you can get the "mushroom shape" (your penis deforms like a mushroom inside the pump) from pumping with Bathmate pumps. I have also experienced this. If this are temporary inside the Bathmate cylinder/pump, what is preventing this temporary deformation of becoming permanent? As we all know: Temporary gains, leads to permanent gains. That's a golden rule in penis enlargment.

The reason for this deformation as I said before, I believe has to do with the uneven surface inside the pump when you remove the comfort insert.
I could not personally never use the comfort insert, it didn't work for me. I remember in the beginning that I got really frustrated for not getting the expansion I presume you should get with a penis pump. Removing the comfort insert fixed this problem.

Also my penis got stuck on the end of the pipe of the comfort insert, but also I got non expansion with that thing in the way. That is; The comfort insert prevented expansion in girth, which also prevented expansion in length. Remember that your penis are expanding like a balloon 🎈 and
then your penis will get stuck more or less in the rubber creases (we call this bastard: the "GATOR"🐊), and this cause the deformation of your penis.

This is my theory at least, because when I was pumping and doing girth work with Bathmate. I expanded hard into the "GATOR", and immediately when this happen my penis would deform like the shape of a mushroom. But if I instead winded a narrow piece bandage at the base of my penis, and in this way prevented expansion at my base, that is: so the base of my penis didn't expanded as hard into the rubber creases (the "GATOR"), my penis wouldn't deform like a mushroom. This is telling me all about the Bathmate I need to know. It was not intended to be used in the way I was using it. I was trying to something with it, that it wasn't designed to do. That is, to increase my girth permanently. And I can tell you it worked, but it was painful.

Bathmate was originally created to help people with poor EQ (Erection Quality), and one of the people (John Oakes) that started Bathmate had a buddy that had been in a motorcycle accident, and he created the Bathmate pump in order to help him and other people with EQ problems. So in my personally opinion, I don't believe that you are supposed to remove the "comfort insert", because the pump is not even designed to help you create the environment to change your size, it's main purpose is only to stimulate blood flow and increase EQ. There is an interview on Bathmate's website and this is what John Oakes say (I quote him here):

I don't post the URL, if you want to find it all you will find it. I'm not here to promote any products (not allowed on the Forums).
Q: Is the interviewer.
A: Is John Oakes.


I did marked some text with red for it to stick out more. So my question to you is:
- Do you really think that Bathmate pumps are designed to increase your penis size permanently? If it was, then why haven't they changed the design for maximum expansion without extreme discomfort?

Don't get me wrong. Bathmate was the pump that got me into penis enlargement and finally got me to find MOS, so happy for that.
I was able to increase my girth substantially with the Bathmate pumps, length not so much. But for me I can't use Bathmate pumps any longer for increasing my girth, due to the problems I mentioned in this post. I just share information, please don't get offended by this post. I love Bathmate they have changed my life. Without them I do not believe I would ever have made my penis thick so fast (I was abusing the Bathmate on my penis. I was pumping up pressure to the brink of panic). I would not even have found MOS (mattersofsize.com).
In the past I was not aware of penis enlargement and the possibilities with it.

Hope this post was helpful.
I'm open for discussion.

*Edit: Oh man I got way outside the thread topic again, but I hope this is helpful in some way or form.

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Have you stopped using your hydromax X9? You can gift me if you don't need it anymore. I will worship the ground you walk on.

huge-girth said:

Have you stopped using your hydromax X9? You can gift me if you don't need it anymore. I will worship the ground you walk on.

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I will still use mine I'm sorry. The gains was so fast to let it go. I can only imagine what using this pump for 1 year will do.