I dont know if this is against the rules or not, i hope not, if it is just delete my post. I've found a few places that they sell steroids but a lot of people say not to buy online and to stick with domestic sources only. Anybody know any legit places that you personally have bought from?

delete this if it's against the rules*
 
I can understand your vigour and zeal to improve however you are still too young in many ways to do AAS. You should put a few more pounds on naturally very easy at your age (19) and your test levels should be naturally high as it is, to start now may bugger up your system for the rest of your life. You sound like you haven't done any research to the use of steroids which could make you reckless and abuse them. I should hope that nobody lines you up with any suppliers, however if you're the gym rat you say you are then you should be able to source them out easy enough through your own resources. Good luck in your training.
 
Okay.......If I were to line you up give an example of what you would want to cycle including product, dosages, frquency and what you would want to do for your PCT.
 
you might be thinkin you gon be responsible with using roids but the thang of it is, once you start puttin on muscle that fast, the shit becomes addicting more or less mentally
 
I haven't come to a final decision on what I want to use yet.

I want to do test enanthate 500mg/ masteron enanthate 300mg weekly with superdrol as a kickstarter. Dbol isn't very dry and causes a lot of bloat. masteron is anti-estrogenic so I figured it would help combat sides of the test and i heard they both enhance each other's effects. Superdrol is very dry compared to Dbol. A vet told me it was a good idea to use superdrol instead of dbol. I hangout on steroidsuperboard.com, bb.com, anabolicminds.
either 10 or 12 weeks, a little worried about shut down on 12 weeks also most people sell amp by 10ml and 20ml at 250mg/ml of test enanthate so i really dont wanna be suckered in buying an extra 10ml for the other 2 weeks:s

everyone says to use deca but masteron rates about the same on the ranking charts.
 
Painful Pleasur said:
I dont know if this is against the rules or not, i hope not, if it is just delete my post. I've found a few places that they sell steroids but a lot of people say not to buy online and to stick with domestic sources only. Anybody know any legit places that you personally have bought from?

delete this if it's against the rules*

Seriously mate I can't advise you strongly enough not to do this shit. I am so glad I never went down that route. Virtually all the guys I known that have done steroids consistently throughout there life have health problems in later life. Just look in to it and see how many bodybuilders, strong men and even athletes (Flo Jo) have died in there fifties or younger. That's a good twenty years at least you would be missing out on spending time with your loved ones, kids, grandchildren whoever. Plus the amount of guys who think they look great when they are just a bag of water with spotty skin tells you it is mainly an ego thing. I used to work as a bouncer in a nightclub and so many of the other bouncers had to get there courage from a needle and they were totally dependent on it because if they stopped they became afraid of people because they felt they didn't have that advantage anymore. For me it is a bit like smoking as I am so glad I never started. There are so many downsides to it and the only benefit is increased strenght and size which can be got through hardwork and dedication unless you are talking about extremes. Once you start it seems as though the ego takes over and you can't go back I really hope you make the right decision for you as I came so close to making the wrong one.
 
bigjim7 said:
Seriously mate I can't advise you strongly enough not to do this shit. I am so glad I never went down that route. Virtually all the guys I known that have done steroids consistently throughout there life have health problems in later life. Just look in to it and see how many bodybuilders, strong men and even athletes (Flo Jo) have died in there fifties or younger. That's a good twenty years at least you would be missing out on spending time with your loved ones, kids, grandchildren whoever. Plus the amount of guys who think they look great when they are just a bag of water with spotty skin tells you it is mainly an ego thing. I used to work as a bouncer in a nightclub and so many of the other bouncers had to get there courage from a needle and they were totally dependent on it because if they stopped they became afraid of people because they felt they didn't have that advantage anymore. For me it is a bit like smoking as I am so glad I never started. There are so many downsides to it and the only benefit is increased strenght and size which can be got through hardwork and dedication unless you are talking about extremes. Once you start it seems as though the ego takes over and you can't go back I really hope you make the right decision for you as I came so close to making the wrong one.

Flo JO suffered an epileptic seizure that caused her to suffocate,but lets blame it on steroids.:s

Extreme diuretic use has been the main cause of deaths in pro bodybuilding.

Strongmen are known to use a lot of speed and coke before events,that combined with a high bodyweight is a recipy for disaster

Albert beckles
robby robinson
lou ferringo
ed corney
Arnie
Samir Bannout
lee haney
dave draper

These are just a handful of guys of the top of my head who competed in some cases for 30 years and used aas and are in there 60s or over.

People in all walks of life die at a young age but if your an athelete the finger points straight away,it must of been steroids.

Not saying steroid use is safe but the knee jerk reaction that if you use steroids you will shorten your life expectancy is rubbish.
 
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prince Albert said:
Flo JO suffered an epileptic seizure that caused her to suffocate,but lets blame it on steroids.:s

Extreme diuretic use has been the main cause of deaths in pro bodybuilding.

Strongmen are known to use a lot of speed and coke before events,that combined with a high bodyweight is a recipy for disaster

Albert beckles
robby robinson
lou ferringo
ed corney
Arnie
Samir Bannout
lee haney
dave draper

These are just a handful of guys of the top of my head who competed in some cases for 30 years and used aas and are in there 60s or over.

People in all walks of life die at a young age but if your an athelete the finger points straight away,it must of been steroids.

Not saying steroid use is safe but the knee jerk reaction that if you use steroids you will shorten your life expectancy is rubbish.

I appreciate what your saying but these guys administer there steroids with doctors monitoring them and some people have speculated that Arnie's triple heart bypass was due to his earlier steroid use and he is now anti-steroids. There are always exceptions but the overwhelming evidence suggest that the use of steroids come with severe health risks not just fatal ones besides the obvious acne, mood swings and it affecting the sex drive it can increase the risk of injury to joints and muscle tears. Even if there is the slightest risk of any of these what are the benefits of taking them, if you want to be big and strong or fast then train hard. I understand that if you compete at top level there is then the question of being able to compete with the guys on them but for everyone else there is no good reason to use them and I challenge anyone to give me one. You say it won't shorten your life expectancy but all I am commenting on is the guys that I have known and the health problems and deaths that has come from there use of steroids.
 
bigjim7 said:
. There are always exceptions but the overwhelming evidence suggest that the use of steroids come with severe health risks.

Really? can you point me in the direction of some of this evidence? any research links?
 
What about your PCT plan? How do you plan to keep that muscle?
Painful Pleasur said:
I haven't come to a final decision on what I want to use yet.

I want to do test enanthate 500mg/ masteron enanthate 300mg weekly with superdrol as a kickstarter. Dbol isn't very dry and causes a lot of bloat. masteron is anti-estrogenic so I figured it would help combat sides of the test and i heard they both enhance each other's effects. Superdrol is very dry compared to Dbol. A vet told me it was a good idea to use superdrol instead of dbol. I hangout on steroidsuperboard.com, bb.com, anabolicminds.
either 10 or 12 weeks, a little worried about shut down on 12 weeks also most people sell amp by 10ml and 20ml at 250mg/ml of test enanthate so i really dont wanna be suckered in buying an extra 10ml for the other 2 weeks:s

everyone says to use deca but masteron rates about the same on the ranking charts.
 
I'm not advocating the use of steroids, but when used properly they can can be an awesome addition. I'm leaning more and more away from actually using weights to build my body, and more toward using body weight only exercises. However, I have used steroids in the past...when it was very convienient for me. I used to be stationed in 29 Palms, CA. when I was in the U.S. Marines. It was about an hour ish from the border of Mexico. I had friends I worked out with who would 'make a run' about once a month for gear. ("Hey man we're makin' a run this weekend, ya need anything?") rofl My personal favorite steroid was Sustenon 250. Came in pre loaded ampules, that were basically ready for use. All that was needed was a sterile 24 guage and you were set. One injection weekly, and I was able to pack on around 30lbs of solid muscle in only a couple months time. I was however a very avid weightlifter at the time, and hit the gym almost daily. Unlike many men who think they can shoot up or pop pills and not put in the effort. It's not a 'get rich' quick scheme, or a short cut. You still need to work.

I liked Sustenon 250 because it not only worked VERY well, with such a low dosage, but the side effects are also very mild because it is a very mild androgen. The worst to be expected on a once weekly dosage is 'maybe' some acne if you are prone to oily skin in the first place. If I had had the chance I would have also tried Deca. Deca is also another very good, but quite mild androgen with similar effectiveness from what I've heard.

Fuck, I wish the whole thing with banning "pro hormones" a few years back hadnt happened. I really really liked ....I think it was called ...damn I dont remember but I DO recal Muscle Tech and a few other companies had some VERY good pro hormones out that very closely mimicked Deca in their effectiveness because they basically converted to the same type of chemicals after passing through the liver.
 
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prince Albert said:
Really? can you point me in the direction of some of this evidence? any research links?
You only have to google "steroid research" and you will get a host of research listing the potentially fatal side effects such as heart attacks, irreversible damage to the liver and kidneys, raised cholesteral levels and many more. I think that there is a real gym culture that denies the problems it is pure denial, some guy tells another something and then it gets passed around as gospel. I have been in the gym when some guy comes over and starts giving unasked for training advice as though he is an expert when in fact he has just heard it off another bloke in the gym and never even thought to question it. I was a Physical training Instructor in the British Army for several years so when these guys try and push advice on me I know if it is bullshit or not. I just think that while a lot of bodybuilders are very knowledgeable about there subject a lot are also in denial about the dangers of steroid abuse. I've had too many friends turn in to arrogant pricks the way they act and even the way they walk changes just because they stick a needle up there arse. I don't care what anyone says the risks and results far outweigh the so called benefits and I would advise anyone not to take them.
 
blackice said:
biggym7 what about andro products that you can buy at GNC. Are those products not worth taking either?
Anything that can be bought over the counter in a health food shop such as GNC is as safe as it gets. The andro products are relatively safe and I think that a lot of the potent ones have been taken off the shelves over the years. The guide I always use is if the IOC(International Olympic Comittee) havent banned it it is probably quite safe however its effectiveness is something you must try out yourself. Hope this is of some help as the IOC contrary to popular belief don't normally ban something unless they have a good reason.
 
bigjim7 said:
You only have to google "steroid research" and you will get a host of research listing the potentially fatal side effects such as heart attacks, irreversible damage to the liver and kidneys, raised cholesteral levels and many more. I think that there is a real gym culture that denies the problems it is pure denial, some guy tells another something and then it gets passed around as gospel.
That's so much crap... everything we put in our bodies have side effect. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't consume them. Do research on Asperin (and other NSAIDs)... look at the sides and they are no different than most oral steroids but we go and pop them for every ache and pain like they're candy. Just because something has potential side effects doesn't mean that those effects will manifest themselves everytime you take them. It means that there is a possibility that they MAY manifest themselves and that you should carefully monitor yourself for the possible sides.

I just think that while a lot of bodybuilders are very knowledgeable about there subject a lot are also in denial about the dangers of steroid abuse. I've had too many friends turn in to arrogant pricks the way they act and even the way they walk changes just because they stick a needle up there arse...
Most bodybuilders that i know and take steroids know the risks and make a concious choice to take them anyway. Who the hell are you or anyone else to say otherwise... it's their body and if they fuck it up, too bad for them. As for your friends that become arrogant after taking steroids... they're just jerks and prolly was before they took steroids.
 
bigjim7 said:
Anything that can be bought over the counter in a health food shop such as GNC is as safe as it gets. The andro products are relatively safe and I think that a lot of the potent ones have been taken off the shelves over the years. The guide I always use is if the IOC(International Olympic Comittee) havent banned it it is probably quite safe however its effectiveness is something you must try out yourself. Hope this is of some help as the IOC contrary to popular belief don't normally ban something unless they have a good reason.
Your statement above clearly shows your ignorance regarding hormones and supplements. There are still plenty of andro supplements that are OTC and are as bad, if not worse, for you liver than most oral steroids. You really shouldn't be giving advice on things you know nothing about...
 
Painful Pleasur said:
I haven't come to a final decision on what I want to use yet.

I want to do test enanthate 500mg/ masteron enanthate 300mg weekly with superdrol as a kickstarter. Dbol isn't very dry and causes a lot of bloat. masteron is anti-estrogenic so I figured it would help combat sides of the test and i heard they both enhance each other's effects. Superdrol is very dry compared to Dbol. A vet told me it was a good idea to use superdrol instead of dbol. I hangout on steroidsuperboard.com, bb.com, anabolicminds.
either 10 or 12 weeks, a little worried about shut down on 12 weeks also most people sell amp by 10ml and 20ml at 250mg/ml of test enanthate so i really dont wanna be suckered in buying an extra 10ml for the other 2 weeks:s

everyone says to use deca but masteron rates about the same on the ranking charts.
I'm a member of those bodybuilding boards also... why are you asking about sources here?? SSB is an open source board. Also, with your stats if you asked about starting a cycle on AM or BB.com you'd get flamed, your thread locked, and possibly banned because you're too young and haven't done much research and open source posts are bad from a legality perspective and puts the board under possible scrutinity from LE.
 
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sikdogg said:
Your statement above clearly shows your ignorance regarding hormones and supplements. There are still plenty of andro supplements that are OTC and are as bad, if not worse, for you liver than most oral steroids. You really shouldn't be giving advice on things you know nothing about...
That may be the case in America which is why I said check that they are not on the IOC banned list, there knowledge and research far exceeds yours or mine on the subject and is the best guideline to go by. I can see that this is a touchy subject for some people. SWM is the only one who has even tried to provide me a good reason for taking steroids and I know it is tempting to go for the short cut but all I am saying is there are VERY SIGNIFICANT RISKS and I think a lot of you are fooling yourselves about the belief that you can minimise those risks. Remember bodybuilding is a sport based on vanity and while I admire the commitment and dedication of many of its participants too many people develop a mental addiction to it that takes over there lives. You can achieve your goals without them but you go your way and time will tell who is right.
 
look bro, dont even talk to me about how bad steroids are, i've researched them for a long time, steroids are safe if you use them properly. go some where else and tell someone who cares. because apparently your friends are idiots who didn't know what they were doing.
 
sikdogg said:
My bad... i didn't realize you weren't from the US.
No problems bro don't want to sound like I am having a pop at you or anyone who does steroids I just think the cons far outweigh the pros. But that is only my point of view and if yours differs that is fair enough. You obviously sound like you know your shit and I sincerely hope you do never experience any health problems. I also realise there is a world of difference from someone like you who educates themself on the subject and someone who fills the syringe up every time and jabs away because he thinks more is better. I just think that you can build a great physique without them and without the risks but as I said that is only my point of view. Just out of interest can you still by ephedrin OTC your side of the pond cause I was surprised that you could when I was in Canada in '95, I only ask because it was taken off the shelves in the early eighties here although it is still widely used and sold illegally in gyms.
 
ej86923 said:
http://www.anabolicshop.net/catalog/

Have ordered from them about 3 times. Never had any probs, other than long ship time Approx 3-4 weeks, everything is real and legit. Informative sight anyway with profiles of drugs n such. Hope it helps, btw Hi everyone I'm new here :)

Oh Boy!!!! Give me some of that over priced shit all day long rofl
Especially since it referenced from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] esteemed first time poster:s

How 'bout I just give you my credit card number and you can charge up what ever you want on it?????
 
ej86923 said:
http://www.anabolicshop.net/catalog/

Have ordered from them about 3 times. Never had any probs, other than long ship time Approx 3-4 weeks, everything is real and legit. Informative sight anyway with profiles of drugs n such. Hope it helps, btw Hi everyone I'm new here :)

Lots of british dragon gear there,yet that site isn't listed in the british dragon authorized supplier database.

The term SCAMMER comes to mind>:(
 
Painful Pleasur said:
lol i got my source thank you. end thread. delete.

Did you find an 'undocumented worker' needing help getting papers or what? (Politically correct term for ILLEGAL F'N IMMIGRANT)
 
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