Progress thread Tommy Gun's Journey

[DLD]

You have been a big influencer, in how I structure my PE. I'm greatful for that.

This is a reason he is head coach!

 

[orgasmic19]

The reason I'm experimenting with hanging is just that, to save time. I can get hours and hours of hanging work done while working from my computer.

Definitely agree with you hanging does save a lot of time. That’s just my opinion.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Definitely agree with you hanging does save a lot of time. That’s just my opinion.

That's sounds good. Personally I'm afraid of hanging, since I think that would remove the banana shape of my penis.

 

[orgasmic19]

That's sounds good. Personally I'm afraid of hanging, since I think that would remove the banana shape of my penis.

As long as you are gaining and happy with your routine that’s all that matters.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

As long as you are gaining and happy with your routine that’s all that matters.

Exactly.

 

[DLD]

Whatever works best is the way

 

[Tommy Gun]

Today I did the same routine.
10 minute bundled downward stretch in LM (clockwise)
3 hours in SS
10 minute bundled downward stretch in LM (counterclockwise)
3 hours in SS

I was only able to do 180⁰ turn in the LM in both directions because my ligs at the base are so sore I'm not able to do full rotations at the moment.

Regardless of soreness my plan for tomorrow is 4 sets of 10 minutes downward bundled stretches.
I'm going to aim for 1-2 hour breaks between each session.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Routine today is consisting of downward bundled stretches in the LM
15 minutes clockwise
2 hours in ADS
15 minutes counterclockwise
ADS up until bedtime.

I may or may not do a 3rd session. I'll see how I feel after my 2nd LM session.
Good news is I'm able to do a full 360⁰ rotation in the bundles now

I want to get started on girth again. But that won't be happening for at least a few more days.
I have a few hairs that grow about an inch up my shaft from the base.
And every now and then when I shave they get ingrown.
Its a pain in the ass.
Even today I tried doing some erect stretching after my LM session and I started bleeding out of one of the ingrown hairs.
So pumping is going to be a no go until that clears up.

 

[huge-girth]

Warm up the penis with warm water for 3 minutes and then shave the hair towards the direction they are facing. I hope you understand.

 

[Tommy Gun]

After my 2nd LM session I'm definitely just sticking with 2 sessions for the day.
I am back up to 30 minutes active PE after only 3 days back so im pretty happy with that.
Currently chilling in my ADS and my ligs are so fatigued.
The goal is to add another 15 minute session hopefully in the next 2-3 days.
Then a 4th set.
Or would it be more beneficial to just do 3×20 minute sessions as opposed to 4×15 minute sessions @huge-girth @MosMaster ?

 

[huge-girth]

After my 2nd LM session I'm definitely just sticking with 2 sessions for the day.
I am back up to 30 minutes active PE after only 3 days back so im pretty happy with that.
Currently chilling in my ADS and my ligs are so fatigued.
The goal is to add another 15 minute session hopefully in the next 2-3 days.
Then a 4th set.
Or would it be more beneficial to just do 3×20 minute sessions as opposed to 4×15 minute sessions @huge-girth @MosMaster ?

If you can do three 20 mins session that's fine.

 

[MosMaster]

After my 2nd LM session I'm definitely just sticking with 2 sessions for the day.
I am back up to 30 minutes active PE after only 3 days back so im pretty happy with that.
Currently chilling in my ADS and my ligs are so fatigued.
The goal is to add another 15 minute session hopefully in the next 2-3 days.
Then a 4th set.
Or would it be more beneficial to just do 3×20 minute sessions as opposed to 4×15 minute sessions @huge-girth @MosMaster ?

I don't think it would matter much. Intensity and healing elongated are the more important factors I'd say.

 

[Tommy Gun]

I don't think it would matter much. Intensity and healing elongated are the more important factors I'd say.

I'm going to work my way up to 4×15 minute sessions.
Then go to 3×20 after that.
I think thats the best approach because an added 5 minutes in the LM if you're doing it right is alot of added tension

 

[DLD]

I'm going to work my way up to 4×15 minute sessions.
Then go to 3×20 after that.
I think thats the best approach because an added 5 minutes in the LM if you're doing it right is alot of added tension

Very good plan

 

[Tommy Gun]

So today was a slight modification to my routine

15 minute downward bundled LM stretches
1 hour in ADS
15 minute downward bundled LM stretches
2 hours in ADS

I'm not able to wear an ADS or anything of the sort for my plans this evening

So I will be making up for it tomorrow by being in an ADS for a total of 6 hours tomorrow with 2×15 minute sessions in the LM again.
I'm still sore only doing 2 sessions but hopefully Friday I can bump it up to 3 sessions

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I'm not able to wear an ADS or anything of the sort for my plans this evening

What about a pel.wrap (penis elongation wrap)?

 

[DLD]

Wrapping or using a sleeve is do important to securing gains

 

[Tommy Gun]

Wrapping or using a sleeve is do important to securing gains

I know I understand
But I was doing night diving so not practical to wear for that

 

[Tommy Gun]

Finally up to 3 LM sessions for the day

15 minutes downward bundled stretch (clockwise)
2 hours in ADS
15 minutes downward bundled stretch (counterclockwise)
2 hours in ADS
15 minutes downward bundled stretch (7 1/2 clockwise, 7 1/2 counterclockwise
2 hours in ADS
My dick already looks massive after only a week so I'm very happy and motivated to keep up the routine.
I'll do the same routine tomorrow and Sunday and hopefully be able to add another 15 minute session Monday

 

[DLD]

Excellent work my friend

 

[Tommy Gun]

Excellent work my friend

Thank you @DLD

 

[Tommy Gun]

So I worked my way up to 2×20 minute LM sessions.

Just got done with my first one this morning and I have freaking scabs around my pubic hair area from the bundles.
I don't know what to do other than moisture like crazy and lay off bundles for awhile
I'm still going to do another LM session later but I'm not going to be bundling.
I think its because I shaved a couple days ago so the hair that is growing in is like copper wire.

 

[DLD]

So I worked my way up to 2×20 minute LM sessions.

Just got done with my first one this morning and I have freaking scabs around my pubic hair area from the bundles.
I don't know what to do other than moisture like crazy and lay off bundles for awhile
I'm still going to do another LM session later but I'm not going to be bundling.
I think its because I shaved a couple days ago so the hair that is growing in is like copper wire.

If you use hydrocortisone this will clear up very quickly

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

If you use hydrocortisone this will clear up very quickly

I would not make it without it. It's that good.

 

[DLD]

I would not make it without it. It's that good.

Glad you know

 

[Tommy Gun]

So I have been off my routine for 4 days because I got some insane food poisoning.

Last time I ever buy meat at an Asian supermarket.

Going back strong tomorrow. I really hate that it took me off my routine but no point on dwelling on the past.

 

[huge-girth]

So I have been off my routine for 4 days because I got some insane food poisoning.

Last time I ever buy meat at an Asian supermarket.

Going back strong tomorrow. I really hate that it took me off my routine but no point on dwelling on the past.

Back and better.

 

[DLD]

So I have been off my routine for 4 days because I got some insane food poisoning.

Last time I ever buy meat at an Asian supermarket.

Going back strong tomorrow. I really hate that it took me off my routine but no point on dwelling on the past.

Wishing you good luck

 

[Tommy Gun]

Wishing you good luck

Always good to here from you @DLD
Hope you're doing well brother

 

[DLD]

Always good to here from you @DLD
Hope you're doing well brother

Same to you my brother

 

[Tommy Gun]

Routine today
20 minutes downward bundled stretches
2 hours in ADS
20 minutes downward bundled stretches
2 hours in ADS

5×5×3 with the mityvac
Then wore cockring for 30 minutes

Tomorrow I'm going for 3×20 minute sessions with the LM
I don't know if I'll be able to do girth later that evening but we'll see

 

[DLD]

Excellent workout

 

[huge-girth]

Routine today
20 minutes downward bundled stretches
2 hours in ADS
20 minutes downward bundled stretches
2 hours in ADS

5×5×3 with the mityvac
Then wore cockring for 30 minutes

Tomorrow I'm going for 3×20 minute sessions with the LM
I don't know if I'll be able to do girth later that evening but we'll see

Training length and girth on same day is a rare thing for people to do. Try as much as you can to keep up with the consistency.

 

[Tommy Gun]

2 hours in ADS
20 minutes downward bundled stretches in LM
2 hours in ADS
20 minutes downward bundled stretch in LM
2 hours in ADS

5×5×3 with mityvac
Wore cockring and edge for 30 minutes

 

[DLD]

2 hours in ADS
20 minutes downward bundled stretches in LM
2 hours in ADS
20 minutes downward bundled stretch in LM
2 hours in ADS

5×5×3 with mityvac
Wore cockring and edge for 30 minutes

Excellent

 

[Tommy Gun]

Looking to upgrade my pump cylinder size.
Around the thickest part (base) is over 6 inches

I currently have a 2.125"×9" cylinder.
I'm pretty close to 7.75 inches long.
Should I get the 2.25×9? Or the 2.25×12?
I'm not sure if 12" long is too much or if I should wait until I'm over 8.25 inches long before going to that large of a cylinder

 

[DLD]

Go with the 9. 11 will be too much space

 

[Tommy Gun]

Wanted to update and let everyone know I started pumping a different way.
It's called interval pumping.
Pump for 2 minutes at ideal pressure. Release to 0, pump immediately back up to ideal pressure.
Repeat 3-5 timess (6-10 minutes)
Take 2-3 minute rest between sets massaging and edging before going in the tube again.

Right now im doing 20 minutes total in the pump.
6 minute set
Rest
6 minute set
Rest
8 minute set
Done

This causes minimal discoloration that I've ever experienced.
Also makes pumping much more enjoyable from my experience since you're more "active" during your sessions.
Miminal donut effect as well. Erection quality seems to be better in the tube from my experience so far.

Try it out and let me know what you guys think

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Interesting

 

[orgasmic19]

Wanted to update and let everyone know I started pumping a different way.
It's called interval pumping.
Pump for 2 minutes at ideal pressure. Release to 0, pump immediately back up to ideal pressure.
Repeat 3-5 timess (6-10 minutes)
Take 2-3 minute rest between sets massaging and edging before going in the tube again.

Right now im doing 20 minutes total in the pump.
6 minute set
Rest
6 minute set
Rest
8 minute set
Done

This causes minimal discoloration that I've ever experienced.
Also makes pumping much more enjoyable from my experience since you're more "active" during your sessions.
Miminal donut effect as well. Erection quality seems to be better in the tube from my experience so far.

Try it out and let me know what you guys think

Funny I do the same routine except I take a 5 minute break every 10 Minutes.

2 Minutes under pressure for 20 Minutes

 

[DLD]

Sounds like it's working so keep good records of progress

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Sounds like it's working so keep good records of progress

Also...The more data/logs you have, the better it is. You can really fine tune your sessions this way.

 

[DLD]

Also...The more data/logs you have, the better it is. You can really fine tune your sessions this way.

Big time

 

[Tommy Gun]

I took the last 2 months completely off from PE because I felt like I was over working big time.
I felt like my tunica was turning into steel cable and it was taking too much to feel like I was getting any sort of expansion.

I'm doing my length work in the apex extender at the moment.
Only using 4-5lbs of tension and im getting a 2.5% increase from my starting measurement and my routine is only 33 minutes total.
So the break/reset I did served its purpose as a fresh start for new growth.

The science says you only need 2% length increase post workout for growth so I'm going to continue this workout for the foreseeable future and see what kind of results I get.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I took the last 2 months completely off from PE because I felt like I was over working big time.
I felt like my tunica was turning into steel cable and it was taking too much to feel like I was getting any sort of expansion.

I'm doing my length work in the apex extender at the moment.
Only using 4-5lbs of tension and im getting a 2.5% increase from my starting measurement and my routine is only 33 minutes total.
So the break/reset I did served its purpose as a fresh start for new growth.

The science says you only need 2% length increase post workout for growth so I'm going to continue this workout for the foreseeable future and see what kind of results I get.

Welcome back brother.
I hope you will feel better now, with doing PE.

I'm just curious where you have got your science data from?

 

[DLD]

Welcome back brother.
I hope you will feel better now, with doing PE.

I'm just curious where you have got your science data from?

Same here

 

[Tommy Gun]

Welcome back brother.
I hope you will feel better now, with doing PE.

I'm just curious where you have got your science data from?

Thanks man!
I've been watching alot of videos of BD and his partner mcswerve, creator of the apex extender.
I know there's too many chefs in the kitchen when it comes to PE but I really like their approach and I want something to switch things up.
BD researches articles and studies that quite frankly I don't have time to do myself so he's pretty much done all the work, put it to the test, posted his results, so I figured I'd try it out.

 

[Tommy Gun]

I know @CRay2323 is familiar with his work and his somewhat following his findings as well

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Thanks man!
I've been watching alot of videos of BD and his partner mcswerve, creator of the apex extender.
I know there's too many chefs in the kitchen when it comes to PE but I really like their approach and I want something to switch things up.
BD researches articles and studies that quite frankly I don't have time to do myself so he's pretty much done all the work, put it to the test, posted his results, so I figured I'd try it out.

Okey I understand. I'm asking because I get ~ 13% BPFSL increase directly after a good session with LENGTHMASTER 3, doing BTC Bundled Stretches.
My BPFSL go from, 15 cm to 17 cm.

I have gained a lot of length, so in a way I have performed my own study. I did watch BD, but I got a feeling that he was promoting slow gains. Since he was afraid of stretching sorness?

I don't know, I can be wrong. But how many men out there have done this kind of stretching at the intensity I'm doing it. I have even modified the LENGTHMASTER 3 in order to stretch harder.
I gained ~2.7 inches in length in 6 months.

My cock have been through a lot lately.
If I calculate he have grown: 12.7 cm to ~19.5 cm = 6.8 cm => ~ 2.7 inches in length (BPEL).
He deserve some rest.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Just trying to have a discussion of methods of gaining length. But personally I believe in high intensity stretches in short bursts. It may be different with an extender where you are stretching for a longer time. Then maybe there will be a point where if you stretch to hqrd and toblong, your penis will start to protest?