The Wench

[millionman]

I've just gotten a wench sent to me by a friend, and I love it. I've been hanging for nearly 80 mintues, four sets of 20 minutes, and my ligs are feeling it. If anyone has any doubts about hanging try the wench, and if you like it enough move up to the bib. I am going to keep hanging and see how this goes, but so far so good. I think it is worth it to make this device if you are so inclined. Try hanging for a bit and see how it goes, it's worth the twenty minutes a set for me to reach my goal sooner than later.

 

[jfg]

yeah the wench is great i love hanging and it is easy to make. i can finally rest my hands some

 

[copper_handshak]

What weight are you hanging with? Do you expect to see length gains more quickly than when manual stretching?

 

[homeslice1325]

hey millionman, any chance that friend would like to send me a wench. i know it would be inconvenient to send it for free, but at a small cost maybe?

 

[jfg]

i hang with 5 lbs right now then every month i'm going to increase the weight. home slice my wife could make you one for a small fee. you name the price

 

[homeslice1325]

how about 20 bucks?

 

[copper_handshak]

So...your going to have your wench make a wench... Im confused Does she know what its for, Ha Ha. Sounds like a cool wife. Im jealous.

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

i hang with 5 lbs right now then every month i'm going to increase the weight. home slice my wife could make you one for a small fee. you name the price

your wife makes Captn's Wenchs?

 

[Im2mackin]

your wife makes Captn's Wenchs?

yea i second that
i would be willing to order one from your wife to

 

[jfg]

she is really good at reading directions and doing thing to the T when it comes to making these. i can have her make some but i dont know how to use pay pal. i really dont know if i should even be useing captin hook device for reproduction. i guess a couple would'nt hurt. 20 buck's is fine that should cover the shipping

 

[homeslice1325]

let me know what she says man, i appreciate your efforts

 

[jfg]

well i ran it by her and she said she would. she said to pay with money orders or if someone would explain how pay pal works i could use that. she said she will make three straps all different sizes i think 12inches and 16 and 24

 

[jfg]

oh yeah we will sent the medium size cable clamp with it to so all you will need is the weight

 

[CaptnHook]

I will use this thread as an opportunity to once again reiterate my policy on the matter of people selling the Wench:

I am more than just asking when I say that nobody is to profit financially from the Captn's Wench.
I have no problem with guys sending out supplies, or making and sharing the device - but let it be understood that any such venture will be done at most for the cost of the supplies and postage.

If you feel your time is worth money too bad - don't make and send the Wench to people. I cannot stress this enough: No one is to profit from this device.


If anyone is feeling brave and wants to push this, feel free. I have plenty of resources and lots of time, and I will deal with you.


-Hook

 

[jakb]

I will use this thread as an opportunity to once again reiterate my policy on the matter of people selling the Wench:

I am more than just asking when I say that nobody is to profit financially from the Captn's Wench.
I have no problem with guys sending out supplies, or making and sharing the device - but let it be understood that any such venture will be done at most for the cost of the supplies and postage.

If you feel your time is worth money too bad - don't make and send the Wench to people. I cannot stress this enough: No one is to profit from this device.


If anyone is feeling brave and wants to push this, feel free. I have plenty of resources and lots of time, and I will deal with you.


-Hook

Then why dont you sell it as you seem to have plenty of time!!!

Or to the people that want to sell it, all you have to do is MODIFY it and then it is no longer the capts wench and you can therefore sell it without fear of repercussion.

 

[jfg]

I will use this thread as an opportunity to once again reiterate my policy on the matter of people selling the Wench:

I am more than just asking when I say that nobody is to profit financially from the Captn's Wench.
I have no problem with guys sending out supplies, or making and sharing the device - but let it be understood that any such venture will be done at most for the cost of the supplies and postage.

If you feel your time is worth money too bad - don't make and send the Wench to people. I cannot stress this enough: No one is to profit from this device.


If anyone is feeling brave and wants to push this, feel free. I have plenty of resources and lots of time, and I will deal with you.


-Hook

hey sorry about this captan hook i did'nt maen to start anything

 

[millionman]

this thing is easily made....I would say that it took about ten to fifteen minutes. The only reason I had one sent to me was the fact that I was in the middle of a crazy semester, and my friend happened to have the parts laying around. He was good enough to not ask for payment but an exchange of devices...I made a DIY cone for him and sent it to him...I used the wench for a bit, and now I'm going to buy a bib, and go from there. The wench is a great device, and I suggest that someone would make this device before moving into something like the bib, since you won't really know if you like hanging if you don't try it out first, before spending $90 + for a bib and deciding it isn't your cup of tea. If anyone needs some help making these you can hit me up....or PM cyclops since he has experience with this device as well....and he says it's one of the best Penis Enlargement devices around....

 

[CaptnHook]

Then why dont you sell it as you seem to have plenty of time!!!

Or to the people that want to sell it, all you have to do is MODIFY it and then it is no longer the capts wench and you can therefore sell it without fear of repercussion.

That's the spirit Jakb-

To answer your question, countless guys around the world have benefitted from my device. I made it as simple and inexpensive as is humanly possible to aquire. I could no doubt have gone the profit route, but choose not to. The unspoken contract within the Penis Enlargement community is that people like myself share their ideas - open source code Penis Enlargement, if you will - and together we advance the science. Or hadn't you heard?

In short, I prefer to spend my time helping guys better themselves, not profit from their greatest insecurities where it's not necessary.

In return for my efforts I have and continue to receive countless expressions of gratitude, and I am made happy by them. Still, there will always be that element - the one you exemplify - that puts themselves before others, always, without shame.

Btw- Maybe you haven't been around long enough to understand that there are always reprecussions - to every move you make. So know what of you speak before encouraging people to leap.

Thanks for the help, Jakb. You're a great addition to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] and the Penis Enlargement community at large. For the record, you are the first to go down this ugly road, but I expected it would one day come.
Proud of yourself?

 

[jakb]

That's the spirit Jakb-

To answer your question, countless guys around the world have benefitted from my device. I made it as simple and inexpensive as is humanly possible to aquire. I could no doubt have gone the profit route, but choose not to. The unspoken contract within the Penis Enlargement community is that people like myself share their ideas - open source code Penis Enlargement, if you will - and together we advance the science. Or hadn't you heard?

In short, I prefer to spend my time helping guys better themselves, not profit from their greatest insecurities where it's not necessary.

In return for my efforts I have and continue to receive countless expressions of gratitude, and I am made happy by them. Still, there will always be that element - the one you exemplify - that puts themselves before others, always, without shame.

Btw- Maybe you haven't been around long enough to understand that there are always reprecussions - to every move you make. So know what of you speak before encouraging people to leap.

Thanks for the help, Jakb. You're a great addition to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] and the Penis Enlargement community at large. For the record, you are the first to go down this ugly road, but I expected it would one day come.
Proud of yourself?

Your post actually made me laugh and it was a good one.

Youre saying I havent been around long enough to know. Hmmm. Very interesting. As I have seen ALOT of threads here asking if someone could make them a capts wench(which I do believe to be a very good product), these people that ask for it to be done have done so without a response I have seen from you. These same people ask if somebody could make them one and they include in their posts that they will pay for that persons time as long as it isnt too much, SO IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE!!!

A person makes a couple of bucks for their time and another person who didnt have the time, patience, know who or easy access to the materials needed gets a great product at a price THEY ARE HAPPY PAYING. Their is no negative spin here until said inventor, who never seems to post in responses to people asking for someone to specifically make them one, comes onto the scene seemingly threatening lawsuits. I believe there is no patent on this product, so in the concern of the law it is a free for all. The only reason I bring this up is due to your 1st post which seemed to me to be a big threat. Otherise I wouldnt mention it.

I do totally believe in karma and people should help each other out, but what I believe you may be losing focus on, is the fact that people are specifically asking if someone can make them one and they will pay for their time. Nobody is ripping anyone off. Everyone is helping each other out.

The idea that Penis Enlargement info should be free is a good one, but taking your time to go to the store, buy materials to make a product and materials to ship a product, make the product and then go ship it, I dont see an issue with anyone (especially after being asked to charge them a little for their time) doing it. They are actually doing a positive thing, which is provide a person with a tool that they wouldnt have otherwise in order to help them. Show me the negative there.

I will only backtrack on this IF and WHEN you respond to every one of those posts asking someone to make them one. If you start responding with a "yes I will make you one and not charge you anything but the cost of materials and shipping". Then I will definitely take my hat off to you and apologize, because you are true to your word of trying to help people out and keep things free. If you are unwilling or unable to do that, then I have to say this is the next best thing in order to help people out.

And YES I am proud of myself. Because this helps EVERYONE out. I would love it if you would help out as well. Either by doing as stated above(you providing the service or figuring out a better way to get people this product from another source besides you, charging a price you feel comfortable with. Next time, have better options available for providing your service, if you feel you want to limit its function. Keep in mind people would not be able to sell these if there was not a demand without without having a service to provide that demand. I havent seen anyone trying to make alot of money on this device, in fact I believe the price that it is currently be sold for does put the buyer way ahead of the seller. Therefore shamelessy thinking of others before themselves. If a person is making $5-10 for making this, that is seemingly nothing compared to the work that goes into it.

 

[CaptnHook]

Bravo, Jakb! Your ability to insult the good efforts of others should serve you well in life.

Check yourself, though, when you suggest that I just "came on the scene". I've been here all along, friend - and I'll be here long after you fade away. You have no idea what transpires between members interested in a Wench and myself, so spare us all your bizarre altruistic posturing on this matter. You can frame your intrusion in whatever heroic light you want, but you are doing nobody any favors - seriously. You're just mucking everything up and no one has gained a centimeter listening to your condescending Economics 101 rant.

For the record, people in this thread and I are in touch, things are cool and everyone will get what they want and need. As always, anyone is free to PM me anytime. This issue could be put to bed already but Jakb insists on keeping it alive with his disrespectful assumptions and pointless mental masturbation. You really have to wonder why.

 

[jakb]

As I see this, it is a two way street, so bravo to yourself as well.

As far as the rest goes, I stated that if you came up with a better idea, I would apologize. I also have trouble seeing where you think I was insulting you. In fact, I believe it was me who was in the line of your insults. But to each their own.

If you are talking with the peopel in this thread, then I definitely applaud you. Keep up the good work.
My energy on this expenditure is through.

 

[svengali]

I will use this thread as an opportunity to once again reiterate my policy on the matter of people selling the Wench:

I am more than just asking when I say that nobody is to profit financially from the Captn's Wench.
I have no problem with guys sending out supplies, or making and sharing the device - but let it be understood that any such venture will be done at most for the cost of the supplies and postage.

If you feel your time is worth money too bad - don't make and send the Wench to people. I cannot stress this enough: No one is to profit from this device.


If anyone is feeling brave and wants to push this, feel free. I have plenty of resources and lots of time, and I will deal with you.


-Hook

I can appreciate your sentiments, Hook, as well as your desire to keep anyone from marketing your idea as you were being gracious to help others with your design. Personally I would never market the idea, however, less you have a patent pending and have also patents pending for any other adaptations that could be substituted in your design would further hamper your protecting the invention. Threats utilizing all your time and resources (whatever those may be) really are quite meaningless. I think it better to just simply to continue to stress your desire to make the design available free publicly, as you already have, and continue to such, will ultimately deter most from attempting to become profitable through marketing it....just my two cents....later, d

 

[Im2mackin]

I will only backtrack on this IF and WHEN you respond to every one of those posts asking someone to make them one. If you start responding with a "yes I will make you one and not charge you anything but the cost of materials and shipping". Then I will definitely take my hat off to you and apologize, because you are true to your word of trying to help people out and keep things free. If you are unwilling or unable to do that, then I have to say this is the next best thing in order to help people out.

Jakb, i think it is time to take your hat off. Cap thank you and check your PM's.

BTW the Capn IS NOT in business. He is just a great man with a kind heart.

 

[jakb]

Jakb, i think it is time to take your hat off. Cap thank you and check your PM's.

BTW the Capn IS NOT in business. He is just a great man with a kind heart.

Dont know that I can agree with you on this yet, my man. Havent seen any changes, besides your statement right there. I think Ive seen him post once on this forum since this thread. If hes helped you out thats great. He deserves some credit for that.

 

[Im2mackin]

He sure does deserve credit! He is indisputably one of the kindest men on this forum. Thanks Cap.

 

[CaptnHook]

Mack,
I appreciate the kind words.

-Cap