The Long Game: Learning with Longstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth

There is a guy already running 4on 3 off routine. 1 to 3 days are for length only. Fourth day for girth. I think he is getting some results as well.
I did run one period (P1) with mixed length and girth routine. It was still IPR based routine where the first two days were the intense stretching with US heat type of days. Third day was length orientated but mainly ADS and jelqing. Days four and five girth only.
I got really decent results with it but it was really exhausting and fatiguing for the dick. EQ dropped significantly during workout days and the 2 day rest was not enough for me.

For now I don´t use these micro cycles anymore and the girth work starts when the length gains with BFSL start to diminish.
Therefor I have been experimenting with girth workouts where the longitudinal elongation and the tissue stress caused by the workout should be minimized.

Restricting length in the vacuum cylinder allows much greater radial expansion and we can aim the inner tunica layer and the tunica of the CS much more effective way. By compressing the shaft longitudinally when clamped the outer layer and Buck´s fascia enveloping the package are not restricting radial expansion that much and with greater inner pressure the inner layer expand even more.

Still experimental but it is showing positive signs already. With the girth I am not taking the traditional way either so to speak.
What I am trying to accomplish is to adapt the concept found impressively effective with length to be used for girth also.

Please try the SRT 5×5×3, it is simply incredible ??
 
Kyrpa while I have your attention can you tell me about what modifications if any you made to your caulk gun for the Squisher? What did you use for straps, I'm thinking nylon or velcro. I am really excited to try this! I don't like the slow squash jelq because it always felt weird to me when penis bent with erection. With your invention it takes care if that and I can see it beautifully strainingthe radial (what I've been calling circumferential) plane. I think once I'm conditioned for it that with the cock coffin or even TTr will allow girth gains to really take off. Also how are you getting that sock back out of the tube?
 
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Kyrpa while I have your attention can you tell me about what medications if any you made to your caulk gun for the Squisher? What did you use for straps, I'm thinking nylon or velcro. I am really excited to try this! I don't like the slow squash jelq because it always felt weird to me when penis bent with erection. With your invention it takes care if that and I can see it beautifully strainingthe radial (what I've been calling circumferential) plane. I think once I'm conditioned for it that with the cock coffin or even TTr will allow girth gains to really take off. Also how are you getting that sock back out of the tube?

Well with a better time I will give more detailled info but here is some tips.
To choose the right caulk gun you need to find one with biggest available opening fork at the tip.
The fork needs some cutting to fit properly between two clamps if you can´t find one with a completely flat ending.

Two clamps are fixed together with bolts using spacers between. Clamps that I use had holes in the handle. The other hole for second bolt needs to be drilled through.

Secondly if you can find one with braces being above the centerline still having enough room for ultrasound between them at the dorsal side, it would be the best. that way the braces are in the perfect position blocking any upwards bending and allowin the US to be applied dorsally.
Applied ventrally these metal braces should reflect some of the waves back if coming from certarin directions.

If you use strap made of polyester webbing you can apply US through it when soaked in conductive gel.
Velcro suits fine at the base and to hold the gland cushion in the position.

Similar models to this linked here is what I am talking about.
If there is model available constructed this way but having flat ending with a biggest available opening that would be perfect.

I have one looking like this and the opening fork needed some cutting to flatten those forks.
Also it needed to open the back side of the ending ring to able the clamp hinge to slip between the braces.

Mine has bigger opening and I believe there are plenty of models fitting the describtion if digging deep enough.


This one has perfect placement for the braces

This one with bigger opening

When used I have clamps "upside down" and therefor I can introduce Squisher from dorsal side.
When compressed CC´s are pushed against the braces when expanded enough and the ventral side keep expanding without restrictions.
With a girth enough the upwards folding is prevented by the placement of the braces alone . For slimmer shafts it is better to secure it with strap.
It is unlikely that the shaft folds downwards but for the safety it is better to use one strap at the center to prevent it from accidentally happening.

Socks out of it...If not completely stuck you just use the invention certain Newton once introduced. If you keep slamming the tube opening downwards against your palm or whatever it gets moving outwards. If not use some hook made of anything available :)
 
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Ahh I understand it so much better now. So you're using spacers between clamps so you can wedge the lip of the caulk gun between them! Genius!

Can you snap pics of the clamps so I can see the bolts? I need to make a run to home depot for more clamps anyway so I'll go take a look at what they offer as far as caulk guns. Might try some gripper material and neoprene for the padding.
 
Ahh I understand it so much better now. So you're using spacers between clamps so you can wedge the lip of the caulk gun between them! Genius!

Can you snap pics of the clamps so I can see the bolts? I need to make a run to home depot for more clamps anyway so I'll go take a look at what they offer as far as caulk guns. Might try some gripper material and neoprene for the padding.

When I am back home in few days I will. Not genius but simple ground level engineering ;)
 
I don't like the slow squash jelq because it always felt weird to me when penis bent with erection.

I do like them and did them and similar exercises a lot while P1 and P2. Thats why I made a device to bring them to another level with US heat.
I want to emphazise this being highly experimental at this stage but it looks like really promising.
 
Yes. That kind of protocolshould produce gains.
Did you give it a shot yet my brother?
I have explored it a bit. That to me looks like a good girth routine. I have been doing very similar things during P1 and P2 with decent results.

Right now to me avoiding the dorsal tunica directed longitudinal stretch component coming from the bending of the SSJ suites better.
 
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Yes. That kind of protocolshould produce gains.

I have explored it a bit. That to me looks like a good girth routine. I have been doing very similar things during P1 and P2 with decent results.

Right now to me avoiding the dorsal tunica directed longitudinal stretch component coming from the bending of the SSJ suites better.

Thanks for your response my brother I’m glad things are working out.
 
So I’m buying the Decon breaks! I worked out every day for six months, and gained about a quarter inch in girth at best. After a month and a half break, i gained about another eighth! So I’m gonna break another month and a half. When i go back, should i do a month on a month off? Two weeks off? I know i can experiment on my own, but my first thought is two months on, one month off. What do you think?
 
I think 2 weeks off is not enough time off. There are a few variables that can effect how long a decon needs to be and how often. If it's been a while since you've taken a decon you probably need one. If you've been stalled with no decon for 6+ months consider an extended decon. Other variables is the intensity of your routine, the greater the intensity the longer the decon needs to be effective. How much rest is actually in your routine, a 1 day on 1 day off decon might look different than a no days off routine.

Xeno, progenitor of IPR theory, used to only do 12 days of work, then 2 weeks of ADS before taking a 6 week decon. He made excellent and consistent gains, however he operated under the paradigm of causing micro tears so much of what he did extreme and short duration.

From a physiology perspective it needs to be a few weeks for the body to do it's thing. One month minimum in my mind to take advantage of those cheap and easy gains and to keep those consistently coming. If decons have been neglected an extended decon 3+ months will be needed to allow the body to do even more healing and remodeling.

Taking the BPSFL and strain measurements each individual can start predicting when it's time to take one I believe. For me currently that's around a month before I hit the wall and get diminishing returns. I took 18 months off before coming back to it in June.
I made the best gains ever because of the decon and my new strategy. As I've built decons into my routine a one month decon is sufficient for me. Again needs to be tailored per individual.

When someone hits the "wall" or plateau's many times the advice is to increase intensity, frequency or volume. Many times all 3. Throw everything you got at it. And they might eke out a little bit of gains before hitting another wall. What happens when you've given it all you got captain and there's nothing left to give? Now an extended decon is certain, many times the person gives up because they're doing 6 hours of daily PE work and nothing to show for it, if they come back a few months or years later they can start gaining again.

I'd rather not have to eke out anything. I'm not lazy I just have a busy life outside stretching my dick. Once guys realize you can make cheap and easy gains doing probably half the shit they're currently doing, you can take breaks and make even better gains (as you have realized) then the magic happens. Before long these goals we've set out to get don't seem so far away.
 
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When someone hits the "wall" or plateau's many times the advice is to increase intensity, frequency or volume. Many times all 3. Throw everything you got at it. And they might eke out a little bit of gains before hitting another wall. What happens when you've given it all you got captain and there's nothing left to give? Now an extended decon is certain, many times the person gives up because they're doing 6 hours of daily PE work nothing to show for it, if they come back a few months or years later they can start gaining again.

I'd rather not have to eke out anything. I'm not lazy I just have a busy life outside stretching my dick. Once guys realize you can make cheap and easy gains doing probably half the shit they're currently doing, you can take breaks and make even better gains, as you have realized then the magic happens. Before long these goals we've set out to get don't seem so far away.

very well written and explained...my general 'go to' whenever faced with an obstacle, is to 'double-up', but what you've proposed makes a lot of sense. Thanks for opening-up a different line of thinking for me
 
I swear I’ve gained at least 1/8 in girth since i started my decon. Maybe more. I had all but given up on reaching my final goal but with this new data, it seems i could achieve it in 2020!

Sometimes the penis needs a break to reset it self. And if this goes successfully when you return you should expect pretty fast gains. We always want the penis to keep guessing never letting it get comfortable and causing plateaus, always pushing growth. So I hope you see some very fast growth after this Dcon.
 
Yes many times if one has been stalled for a long time or pursuing very intense routines it's not uncommon to finally have growth when taking a decon.

Similar to the actualization block after an intensification block on a powerlifting routine. You back off the week leading up to the meet and take the preceding days off. This allows accumulated fatigue to subside and then one can hit PR's.

Keep in mind it's also likely to lose a little bit when taking a decon but the list gains are quickly regained.
 
Yes many times if one has been stalled for a long time or pursuing very intense routines it's not uncommon to finally have growth when taking a decon.

Similar to the actualization block after an intensification block on a powerlifting routine. You back off the week leading up to the meet and take the preceding days off. This allows accumulated fatigue to subside and then one can hit PR's.

Keep in mind it's also likely to lose a little bit when taking a decon but the list gains are quickly regained.

Is it okay to keep doing a light jelqing routine during a decon break if you were doing SiliStretcher vacuum hanging? Like I used to do 100 jelqing every other day just for erection hardness and healthy purposes, not with the intention to gain girth. I stopped with jelqing too as i’m now in my decon break but I wonder if I could continue jelqing.
 
You can do anything you want really. A decon is just reconditioning so technically as long as it's much reduced volume you could. I tend to think if you're doing decons regularly it's best to either taper to where the last week or 2 is absolutely nothing or just do absolutely for the month you take off. I lean more towards doing absolutely nothing but have tappered with ADS before with no loss in gains. If you're doing an extended break because of never taking a decon or being stalled for a long time it's even more important to do nothing.
 
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