Also read what kypra says about inflammation, I have found the same. I get no inflammation and no soreness. If I do I know I went a little too hard. I just get gains. I'm not talking fluid buildup that will dissipate in 10 to 20 min. I'm talking lingering edema, soreness (fatigue), retraction or turtling or any other negative PI's save maybe sometimes a slight drop in EQ. So yes the goal of traditional hanging (fatigue) is counterproductive. We are coaxing gains through proliferation (mitosis and migration) not forcing damage (microtears).
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I have a pulley set mounted under my desk. I work alot behind my desk on my computer so I can test out how many hours I need to hang before getting diminishing returns.
Because I am sitting behind my desk in a desk chair my balls are somewhat protected if I would put an infrared heating source on the ground for heating the shaft while hanging.
I will look for an infrared heating source which can deliver a constant heat at 40-43.5 degrees Celsius.
I have a very thick tunica. I believe I have 3 thick layers of tunica and I am a hard length gainer. I need to go extreme in order to gain length.
This week I wasn’t home and I had a mini decon break of like 10 days. Tomorrow i’ll get back into hanging and I will set up baseline parameters. I will track and calculate everything just like you showed us in your posts.
I need the pre-BPFSL and post-BPFSL to calculate the strain %.
I never did this and it seems very logical to do this. I love the scientific approach because I studied mechanical engineering a few years so i’m very familiar with Hooke’s law, Newton’s laws, forces, stress and strain and all that stuff.
It’s wonderful we can use that knowledge to work smarter and not harder. I was willing to give up a huge portion of my time and social life just to stay inside and get my hanging sets done but this seems more appealing.
I am recovered from a blister injury after hanging too much too heavy with the SiliStretcher2 and with your method injuries will be a thing of the past.
I am hanging 4 hours with 1 kg (2.2 Lbs) but that doesn’t give me any significant strain... Well I assume that because I never measured post-BPFSL after my hanging sets.
Maybe it gives me enough strain to quit hanging after a few hours... Who knows... I’m increasing weights until I see significant strain and I will exhaust that set up for as long as possible until I reach a plateau.
I’m also going to test your method combined with DLD’s reverse pyramid hanging method. Increasing the weight every 30 mins to see how fast I can get into that proliferation-gaining zone.
A big problem of infrared heating lamps is the fact that they are built on giving 15-20 minutes of heat. I require several hours of constant heat for my hanging sets.
I tried several 150 Watt infrared lamps but those light bulbs literally broke during my stretching and hanging sets and it was very frustrating.
I’d do my newbie stretching routine and then suddenly the lamp would explode. Because I used it for several hours straight. It couldn’t deliver the performance I was looking for as a PE’er.
I’m afraid that those more expensive lamps will also break down or explode so IF anyone knows a good infrared heating lamp which can be shipped internationally, please let me know!
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The first step will be to start getting those accurate measurements. I would've listed that principle as number 1 if this forum was sold on importance of decon breaks but seeing as that has not happened here yet I wanted to stress that.
2.2 lbs will likely not be enough, perhaps enough to come through toe region but doubt strain. Vacuum devices are amazing, I made most gains from them, however they require conditioning of skin and proper taping. 4 hours is long time but you are doing light weight which is good. If weight is increased time might need to be adjusted down until conditioning occurs for that weight at that time. Especially if coming back from blister. Hanging leads itself as an excellent companion to heat and stretch, especially when ultrasound comes into mix as a free hand is needed to move transducer. Currently you could use hanging set to apply your IR heat lamp and then do a short manual routine after dieing cooldown. Magic will happen when you can safely get to 6-10 lbs, conditioning required so don't rush there. Injuries suck
I responded back in your other thread about heat lamp. I recommend the RubyLux with a deflector with a ceramic base. It might not get deep enough to get everything hot enough but should get close. I recommend saving up for ultrasound machine. Can currently be found for $160 on Ebay, budget accordingly.
With your background you probably have a heads up on me on understanding some of these concepts. That's excellent as I'm hoping others will pick up where me, kypra and manko will be leaving off. I would guess I have less than a year left depending on girth gains.
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That is a huge disadvantage, to keep moving the transducer with ultrasound to keep everything heated at a constant temperature. So basically it isn’t handsfree. I can now understand why you would only do one or two hours maximum of hanging...
Who wants to keep moving that transducer around the shaft for like 5-6 hours. I can’t even get my work done behind the computer if I have to keep moving the transducer.
This is so fucking frustrating. I have to work my way up to 8-10 pounds with the SiliStretcher2 and then heating the shaft while hanging for a few hours as my main workout and then letting it cool down hands free I guess.
That should give me daily maximum strain and BPFSL gains.
No one. Because no one needs to. Make it half an hour. If you were ever to reach penile core temperatures above 40 degrees C you can see it yourself.
Kyrpa beat me to the proper response. Also welcome Kypra! I do one hanging set with heat at 20 min.
So I have to look for the maximum strain achievable per day. After that just cooling down and letting it heal to reheat and hang the next day?
Is this the gentleman behind that beautiful writing?
Heat is the key. Once in range strain rate is accelerated to the point you'd only need one session if your using an adequate stress. I'd recommend to stretch during a cooldown as well. That could mean shutting off heat and continue to vacuum hang for 10 to 20 min or do so cyclically manual stretches.
The man himself. The forerunner!
Also I've tested multiple sessions in a day and I got good results. At the time I was doing one day on and 3 days off. However it took all day to do 3 sessions and I'm getting appreciable results using once a day routine now. I currently do 1-2 on and 1 day off. I would like to ideally do 3 on 1 off but my schedule is hectic.
Yes. You described it yourself the best. To maximize the residual lengthening the cool down should be produced while still stretching. In your case still hanging. And not to do it every day. Off days are needed between.
Okay thanks for your explanation! I now fully understand the concepts. I’ll get that ultrasound device next month or so, it is a priority for me.
I’m struggling with gaining length from 7” to 10”...This is the holy grail! Heat is highly recommended for length.
Thank you for your kind words. Longstretch is so enthusiastic for what he is seeing himself and trying to get some attention for these methods that I thought that I should at least visit his valuable thread over here. Thank you guys.
Why are rest days needed? Theoretically I could do these heated hanging sessions every day to get maximum strain and BPFSL gains per week so that will get me faster to my length goal ?
I am hanging every day since the SiliStretcher came out. It’s so comfortable and nice.
Would love if you could visit often, and even out from the comfort of this oh so cozy thread. ???
My thinking comes from the very basics of doing as minimal efforts as needed to produce the permanent elongation we are after.
So the daily hanging fits badly in this principle. I have made significant progress with 3 days on and 2 off.
There are few things to avoid to keep this engine going. Inflammation. Excessive soreness. Conditioning for hanging.
I think that we are all looking for penile lengthening not coming long lasting hangers. There comes the resting between these workouts as them tissues have couple of days to recover they are permitting better strain when stretched.
In the attached graph is seen all the periods I have produced so far and the gains achieved within.
Gains stops after some time and the longer break from BPFSL elongation workouts sets up the the table for another run.
BPEL keeps coming at decelerated rate even during the breaks from intensive stretching once the difference between BPFSL and BPEL is large enough.
Now that you are aware of the Hooke´s law you should find out and plot the stress strain curve of the Penis. Not ligament or tendon.
It has a non-linear appearance of the biological soft tissues having long toe region with initial nearly proportional elastic phase.
After this there comes the transitional region with radical stiffening of the tissues increasingly resisting any stretching efforts despite to loading tissues more. The stiffening continues to increase as there is no additional strain achieved. Stress though increases at multiple rate and there is no sense to stress the tissue more if there is no additional strain available with these efforts.
The stiffening should ease at some point and then and only then the Hooke´s law is obeyed and the proportional range have been found. I have been loading up to 9kg and yet to found the proportional region still working at the stiffening range. This same stiffening and the final proportional behavior have been seen in studies with ligaments.
I am operating at the last part of the transitional region with my heaviest and final exercise by manual stretching.
Before that working through the initial elastic part of the toe region with no heat. Applying heat elongating this elasticity and moving the pivot of the stiffening further.