Can this be true? Please tell me this is bullshit.

Kevin

"Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral, amino acids, essential fatty
Acids like omegas 3,6, 9, etc, and other supplements may end in June
of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be defined and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World Health Organization (WHO).

The CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (Food Code) is setting the supplement standards for all countries in the WTO. They will be enforced by the WTO and will over ride U.S. laws. The U.S. President and Congress agreed to this take-over when the WTO Treaty was signed. Violations are punished by WTO trade sanctions. CODEX drastically restricts vitamins, minerals, herbs and other supplements. CODEXmet secretly in November, 2004 and finalized "Step 8 (the final stage)" to begin implementation in June, 2005.

The CODE includes:

(1) No supplement can be sold for preventive or therapeutic use.

(2) Any potency higher than RDA (minimal strength) is a "drug" requiring a
prescription and must be produced by drug companies. Over 5000 safe items now in health stores will be banned, terminating health stores as we now know them.

(3) CODEX regulations become binding internationally.

(4) New supplements are banned unless given very expensive CODEX testing and approval.

CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others, where zinc tablets rose from $4 per bottle to $52. Echinacea (an ancient immune-enhancement herb) rose from $14 to $153 (both examples are now allowed by prescription only). They are now "drugs". Vitamin C above 200 mg, niacin above 32 mg, vitamin B6 above 4 mg-all are banned over-the- counter as drugs. No amino acids (arginine, lysine, carnitine, etc. = essential amino acids!), essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6, 9, etc.), or other essential supplements such as DMEA, DHEA, CoQ10, MSM,
beta-carotene, etc. are allowed.

The CODEX rules are not based on real science. They are made by a few people meeting in secret (see web sites below), not necessarily scientists. In 1993 the FDA and drug corporations tried to put all supplements under restriction and prescription. But over 4 million Americans told Congress and the President to protect their freedom of choice on health supplements. The DSHEA Law was passed in 1994, which does so. But this will be over ruled by CODEX and the World Trade Organization.

Virtually nothing about it has been in the media. What the drug corporations have failed to do through Congress they have gotten by sneak attack through CODEX with the help of a silent media. What can be done at this late hour?

(1) Spread the word as much as possible. Inform yourselves fully at
www.ahha.org, www.iahf.com, and www.alliance- natural-health.org.

(2) Oppose bills S.722 and H.R.3377. These support the CODEX restrictions with U.S. laws, changing the DSHEA law.

(3) Support H. R.1146 which would restore the sovereignty of the U.S.
Constitution over CODEX, etc.

(4) Express your wishes to the President, Senators and Representatives (They got us into this!) ASAP.

(5) Contact multi-level health marketing groups that can get their members to inform the government.

(6) Send donations, however small, to the British Alliance for Natural
Health (see web site above). It has succeeded in challenging the CODEX directives in World Court later this month or next. They need help financially, having carried the fight effectively for everyone. CODEX and the FDA wish to protect us by controlling supplements in the same way they do prescription drugs. A study of the latter by three medical scientists was reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998-Vol. 279, No. 15, p. 1200 ". Incidence of Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR's) was found to be extremely high." Covering 30 years (1966 to 1996) it was found that in the U.S. an average of 106,000 hospitalized patients per year (290 per day)! die from ADR's and 2,200,000 need more hospitalization for recovery. These were FDA approved drugs, properly administered by competent professionals in hospitals--none were considered malpractice. This is the number four cause of death in the U.S. When combined, these account for 7% of all hospitalized patients. This is equivalent to a 9-11 attack every ten days. There are very few fatalities from supplements or the
news would be on every front page. There is no need for more FDA control of supplements than is already in place, which is substantial. Instead of drastically restricting supplements, why doesn't the FDA better control and restrict the extremely dangerous pharmaceutical drugs which are now killing us at the rate of a major airline crash per day?

Wallace G. Heath, Ph.D.
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To write your senators and congressman, first go to
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp
if you don't already know your zipcode+4. Then go to
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
to look up who your representatives are. Many
have email links on this site, but others you have
to visit their website for contact info."
 
I have heard about this. The possibiblity is very real. I dont know what stage it is in though. I just wrote a letter using your website link. I urge anyone and everyone else to do the same.
 
hey, i've been a lurker for a while, since i can't seem to keep a consistent routine going i haven't posted before. but this got me a little nervous and didn't quite seem to add up, so i did a little research and think it's bullshit. the senate and house have a legislative database called the THOMAS archive online, and looking at the 106th congress on (1998-present) i looked at the bill numbers it references. most are unrelated, although HR 1146 in the 106th has to do with ending US membership in the UN, and HR 3377 of the 106th is about labelling genetically engineered foods. the S 722 in the 108th does reference supplements, but nothing about WTO control. the other bills with these numbers have to do with things like education and sea turtles. plus the US is not obliged necessarily to adopt this thing if it even exists, as can be seen with the current refusal of the US to comply with the WTO over cotton subsidies. i just wanted to calm the fears of those like myself who use supplements that this may just be total BS
 
Part of the reasoning behind this is the passing of the New Freedom Act. Soon you will only be able to use they drugs they give you and most of you will be on them.

This act forces American kids to be psychologically tested and put on strong meds. They hoped to have 50% of American kids on psycotrophic drugs by 2005 which is what year it is now and that act was passed in December. After the kids it will be all American citizens, not the foreigners keep in mind.

Vaccines for everyone, I can't wait till we get that act in Canada!

But im just a silly conspiracy theorist, they don't actually want American citizens on drugs that won't make them think straight do they...
 
Just as long as I can get my tramadol and viagra, and I'll be happy. JESUS H FUCKING CHRIST, they want all kids psychoactively tested and put on meds? WTF? Why don't these people realize that this is going to make things worse. The reason kids are out of control these days is because of
1. Media
2. Lack of discipline
3. Failing to realize self responsibility
4. Blaming others for their problems
5. Failing to realize self responsibility
6. Television

See the media spreads fear. The constant barragement of negativity is taking its toll on the country. Who is the real terrorist? Al Queda? Haven't seen them in a while? Muslems? Yeah I buy milk at the 5 and dime all the time. WTF? Wake up America. We're all asleep.

The main problem is the fact that this country is relying on ego for internal happieness and not realizing the happieness comes internally not from the ego which is externally based upon your perception of how others perceive you. When your internal reference point is your ego, YOUR BROKED. It's killing us, all of us. I wish I could make this fucking speach in front of the country instead of bullshit about Iraq, but that's a whole another nightmare bad movie rerun that wont end. I don't care, I'm happier than I've ever been. However I've awakened if you will and have really analyzed what is going on. You can't rely on drugs for internal well being can you? Hey, I get anxiety, I take klonazepam as needed, but 1/2 of a .5mg tab and through meditation and self healing I'm going to get off the crap. I didn't need it when I was 5 years old? Why do I need it now? I need it now because of the reality I've created for myself. A reality based upon ego, which is not what my true self really desired. I make money, spent money, I'm in debt and that's where my anxiety comes from. But the major point is that we all are one and we all must realize that. People need to slow the fuck down and realize that others need help. Do something for someone else. Put a smile on someone elses face and see what happens to your depression and anxiety. That's why were here. I see the way this country is run and what's happening and I feel like I'm the only one that can see it. Can you imagine 50% of the youth population on Ritalin (sp?) JHFC
This is really getting out of hand. Nobody gives a crap though. I wish I could get 10M people together and walk up to capital hill and say enough is enough. We are ruining ourselves because our damn eyes are shut and blinded by what is told to us is right? What is right? The only thing that is right is what your true self believes is right. You know your gut feeling when your about to make a decision. People need to think for themselves and create an identity for themselves instead of being brainwashed by ego and government. Why let someone else think for you. Think about this. Would you let someone else breathe for you? You took your first breath by yourself and your last breath by yourself. Sorry to go off here about this, I'm shocked at what I just read if it is true, which I hope it is not, this is a very sensitive subject for me. But I'm only one person, I should just lie down and shut up like everyone else right? NOT. Anybody here agree with what I'm saying here, or do I need to be locked up? rofl

Kevin
 
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dacavman said:
hey, i've been a lurker for a while, since i can't seem to keep a consistent routine going i haven't posted before. but this got me a little nervous and didn't quite seem to add up, so i did a little research and think it's bullshit. the senate and house have a legislative database called the THOMAS archive online, and looking at the 106th congress on (1998-present) i looked at the bill numbers it references. most are unrelated, although HR 1146 in the 106th has to do with ending US membership in the UN, and HR 3377 of the 106th is about labelling genetically engineered foods. the S 722 in the 108th does reference supplements, but nothing about WTO control. the other bills with these numbers have to do with things like education and sea turtles. plus the US is not obliged necessarily to adopt this thing if it even exists, as can be seen with the current refusal of the US to comply with the WTO over cotton subsidies. i just wanted to calm the fears of those like myself who use supplements that this may just be total BS


My mother has been fighting with this and some other things in legislation right now. What Kausion has mentioned is part of it. They want to test all children and have them put on the "proper" mental medication. In my opinion MOST medicine has a very negative side effect and can do a lot of detriment to young children. ANd from my understanding YOU HAVE TO DO IT. This means that you wont have the option to saying NO I dont think my child should take that. Fucked up by my standards.

The other part is the drug companies which have huge kickbacks to most politicians is trying to eliminate their only true competitor. The vitamin, herb and supplement industry. If they can control this industry there is HUGE profits to be made by them. The numbers of the bills may be inaccurate in Karrells post or this may be bullshit or they could have hidden their agenda in a long bill. Personally I dont know. But from what Im told from a very reliable source, it is very real.

Dacavman,
I hope youre right.
 
kfarrelldba said:
This is really getting out of hand. Nobody gives a crap though. I wish I could get 10M people together and walk up to capital hill and say enough is enough. We are ruining ourselves because our damn eyes are shut and blinded by what is told to us is right? What is right? The only thing that is right is what your true self believes is right. You know your gut feeling when your about to make a decision. People need to think for themselves and create an identity for themselves instead of being brainwashed by ego and government. Why let someone else think for you. Think about this. Would you let someone else breathe for you? You took your first breath by yourself and your last breath by yourself. Sorry to go off here about this, I'm shocked at what I just read if it is true, which I hope it is not, this is a very sensitive subject for me. But I'm only one person, I should just lie down and shut up like everyone else right? NOT. Anybody here agree with what I'm saying here, or do I need to be locked up? rofl

Kevin

America needs more free thinkers like you. I'd walk over to the states and march with you if only 10M American's were awake though.

You are going to be seeing a lot of sick kids who were once healthy in the near future. Probably going to be seeing a lot of vaccines being mandatory. Most kids today can't join sports without taking a administered vaccine. What's in these vaccines??

BBC had an article a little while back of how it was admitted but of course accidental that HIV strains were put in the vaccines given to children in Africa. The polio virus has recently been brought back and I hear rumours that it is also being put in the vaccines sent to Africa. I am going to have to research and confirm that however.

Bottom line is something aint right and if you can't see anything wrong thats really sad.

Oh ya one other thing. The rules and regulations for the New Freedom Act are written by all the big drug companies... HINT HINT
 
Just a few things... One, it sounds like one big joke/scare, that get stirred up. One person posts all this bullshit then links a bunch of organizations that stand against ANY control of drugs by the government, so it makes the story look legitimate.

Most kids today can't join sports without taking a administered vaccine. What's in these vaccines??

BBC had an article a little while back of how it was admitted but of course accidental that HIV strains were put in the vaccines given to children in Africa. The polio virus has recently been brought back and I hear rumours that it is also being put in the vaccines sent to Africa. I am going to have to research and confirm that however
In USA to go to highschool only vaccines we need are for hepatitis... To play sports you need physical, but no special vaccines. On the HIV/Polio in african vaccine thing is bullshit. Just some more assholes trying to stir up a bunch of people so he can laugh at the idiotic people get outraged. Its good cover too since Africa is already so HIV infested, if he claimed it was going to USA, where HIV isnt widespread as Africa, (aka not an outbreak/epidemic) only an outbreak epidemic would legitimize it in USA, one more reason to choose Africa for the falsified story.

One final thing... do you think a president that says "The US will never look for a permission slip to protect its borders," is going to allow any global organization to control OUR shit? No way.

Worst case scenario if they do sanction our country, which no country or group of countries would ever do in their right minds, would be we drill in Alaska and become independent of them all.

Anyways... I just think people get all excited over nothing, too often, and unfortunately not often enough for the important things...
 
One final thing... do you think a president that says "The US will never look for a permission slip to protect its borders," is going to allow any global organization to control OUR shit? No way.

Did you know that Presidents are now bought and sold. Did you also know the same Federal Reserve and others (CFR, Trilat..etc) pushing for global government is who the president must answer to. So in answer to your question yes there would be global organization to control YOUR shit. As it is not YOUR shit it is the government's.

Deny all you want the New Freedom Act has been passed. You can say I am stirring up things but problems don't go away by ignoring them. The polio part I had stated was a rumour the HIV story came from BBC. They are probably the most honest mainstream news.

Anyways... I just think people get all excited over nothing, too often, and unfortunately not often enough for the important things...

Did you want me to start going nuts over the Superbowl now or at the day of the party??
 
Did you know that Presidents are now bought and sold. Did you also know the same Federal Reserve and others (CFR, Trilat..etc) pushing for global government is who the president must answer to. So in answer to your question yes there would be global organization to control YOUR shit. As it is not YOUR shit it is the government's.
Right... right... but it doesnt matter cuz it is all ran and operated by Rockafeller who is scheming to take over the world right?

Buying and selling of presidents is some conspiracy theorists bullshit along with a lot of what I have heard you say on politics (some not all), *shrug* sorry just find it hard to believe when all your other stuff falls in line with conspiracy theorists fanatacism... the 9/11 thread and all.

Until you can cite the actual bill and it being voted on OR passed I cant believe it :(

Um maybe you should crack down on the negative things in society we already know, like smoking in public period. Outside your home is not your right. Wanna fill your house with smoke fine, wanna polute and put my health at risk on the sidewalk, thats a no no.

Make drinking outside your home and bars illegal too, period and crack down on it too. Lots of things going on these days that are fucked up, kill lots of people, and no one gives a shit about.
 
Im not sure your obsession with Rockefeller.. Do you even know what the CFR or Trilateral Commission is?? How about the Bilderberger's and Henry Kissenger? Do you know what Henry Kissenger has to say about american's and american soldiers? He calls for one world government all the time... think about it

Or are you one of the highly blind that thinks the Federal Reserve is owned by the Government?? If your money is printed by the same people operating the CFR and such that I mention the president would have to obey as it's not the government that controls the money. Where did you think your money came from??

But then I say to myself the whole reason this is happening right in front of you without you even trying to consider is because of the average american attitude. Somehow if you only care about yourself it gives you some sort of security and you get ahead in life. And despite the lessons governments have teached in the past you think you are part of yours and that they would never do anything like what they have done in the past. Well look on the bright side, your average american neighboor is blind and doesn't give a crap about you either...

You want to crack down on petty things like that you should write your congressman. People die in massess daily and it aint from smoking or drinking outside their homes.

The true conspiracy theory which most of you bought is believing a man in a cave can have NORAD stand down as planes are flown into the twin towers. You do know that its FBI admitted that the bombing of the trade towers in 93 was a government operation that went wrong right?? But it must have been that guy in the cave for the 2001 attack...

If you are just relying on personal ignorrance which it seems you do a lot of when you debate, I am wasting my time. The documents are all on the net and the open source but you believe they must have came from the sky. Might as well watch the Micheal Jackson trial if you purposely decide to be blind to your country being dismantalled.

One more question, are you for gun control?
 
No Im pretty much anti-gun-control on all sides *shrug* except automatic weapons. Dont see much of a *good* use for those in hunting ;)

Dont have time or energy to respond to rest sorry... BTW there are articles on the internet "proving" many things, check out the society that still believes the earth is flat. There still is on, and they have some certainly convincing pages. Unfortunately many online sources, are biased, jokes, etc...

Its like watching the daily show for news. Sure you will know recent events, but the spin you get, you just never know haha.

And I agree with you on the '93, some "secret source within the FBI" one reporter might say, or "reliable sources within the administration" or what have you, told a news site, probably a lesser known/credible one, that reported it... with "official" (looking) documents too!

Anyways, Im out... Im not saying our government is clean or hasnt done some shady dealings, I just find people from the conspiracy theorist side to be a little... paranoid.
 
With respond to the 93 attack maybe you should look into it. The guy they hired to train the people to plant the bomb realized he was being used as a scapegoat and recorded the conversation.

A document is a document if it is unclassified and signed by someone in politics it's official. You can deny all day that someone took the time to write up a false one but sorry it is true. The patriot act document is on the net to download but I guess someone decided to make a document that is said to be the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] and wasted their time writing over 1000 pages of BS... riiiight.

Well if you want to stay ignorrant that is fine just make sure you and the other ones who want to deny everything don't give up your guns.

Have you stopped to notice how with every terror attack or war on drugs the only ones loosing their rights are you? It happens because people are thick headed...
 
I just re-stocked my Aluminum Foil supply. I'm going to make myself a fresh hat, and wrap my car engine in it too. Big Brother is out there! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! ;) LOL!!
 
Does chronic make people paranoid, Kausion? ;) Just giving you a hard time.

I only skimmed over this thread, but even if this shit were for real, it would never fly legally. No way in hell. Remember, just because you have one or two or three fucking nuts in congress that propose legislation doesn't mean that's what the "government" wants to do. And do you really think any President who gives a rats ass about his policies or his party's future would sign something calling for mandatory testing and prescriptions for children... and if so, who the fuck is going to enforce it?

You guys should go back through history and look at some of the bills that have been introduced over the years... You'd freak. But our system is such that only about 20% of the laws we REALLY need get passed.

Shit, we can't decide if educational vouchers are Constitutional... do you really think this is going anywhere??

And, No, I'm not one of those people to sit back and turn a blind eye to our government's dealings. I am very politically active... I vote, write/call my congressmen, etc.
 
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sephin said:
Um maybe you should crack down on the negative things in society we already know, like smoking in public period. Outside your home is not your right. Wanna fill your house with smoke fine, wanna polute and put my health at risk on the sidewalk, thats a no no.

Make drinking outside your home and bars illegal too, period and crack down on it too. Lots of things going on these days that are fucked up, kill lots of people, and no one gives a shit about.

Three words sum this up:........GET IT TOGETHER!!!!!

sephin said:
Its like watching the daily show for news.

lol, thats the only place i get mine, and I think its one of the the funniest shows on TV, John must mack all the bitches :s

Oh yeah, and this thread scared the hell outta me!!!! rofl
 
Nah Im not paranoid.. probably would be if I lived in the belly of the beast but I dont.

Most Canadians I speak to already know there is something going on but that is because we are not as patriotic so it's easier to question your master.

People were asking questions and I just thought I would let them know what is being passed in the senate and waiting to be signed by you know who. But I realize fully now that I am wasting my time so I will only speak about this to those who care.

The logical thing to do would be if you see me post something that sounds very strange (like New Freedom act,PA2.. etc) to research it for yourself to see if there is such thing. Then you would know for sure if I am talking out of my ass. But then again you would have to care to do that.

Well I am do for now. Just remember, keep your head in the sand and you leave your ass open for attack.

K_420
 
kausion_420 said:
Nah Im not paranoid.. probably would be if I lived in the belly of the beast but I dont.

Most Canadians I speak to already know there is something going on but that is because we are not as patriotic so it's easier to question your master.

People were asking questions and I just thought I would let them know what is being passed in the senate and waiting to be signed by you know who. But I realize fully now that I am wasting my time so I will only speak about this to those who care.

The logical thing to do would be if you see me post something that sounds very strange (like New Freedom act,PA2.. etc) to research it for yourself to see if there is such thing. Then you would know for sure if I am talking out of my ass. But then again you would have to care to do that.

Well I am do for now. Just remember, keep your head in the sand and you leave your ass open for attack.

K_420
I apologize if I offended you; all I'm saying is the a long road to travel from bill being introduced to it becoming law. But yes, we should all stay vigilant.
 
kausion_420 said:
Just remember, keep your head in the sand and you leave your ass open for attack.

K_420


Welp, that there my friends is one single sentence that sums up the mentality of 99% of the asleep population in the United States of America. Thank god for drugs and booze so we can continue walking around like machines with our eyes shut and continue to deny reality.

Remember, drugs and booze make the pain go away (stock up now) lol
rofl
 
Ya Im done tryin to open minds, time to take the blue pill. Hopefully by tommorrow morning I will be blissfully ignorrant, and be a policed sheep. Maybe I will get so far as to police those around me as to what society calls normal and appropriate.

Let me know when the revolution starts. Actually there probably won't be one. But i'll be ready..

Have fun in the FEMA camps. Your government loves you and they built them so that you could throw parties.

Long live the Reuplicrats and the Federal Reserve! WooooT!

Im off down the path to evolution. I am a crazy bastard but at least I know what I am willing to die for. Living in a shell and dieing for nothing isn't really living IMO. So it's no wonder the elitests have the same views as they feel more than 80% of human population is a waste of space.

See ya on the other side..

The Illuminated One
 
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kausion_420 said:
Part of the reasoning behind this is the passing of the New Freedom Act. Soon you will only be able to use they drugs they give you and most of you will be on them.

This act forces American kids to be psychologically tested and put on strong meds. They hoped to have 50% of American kids on psycotrophic drugs by 2005 which is what year it is now and that act was passed in December. After the kids it will be all American citizens, not the foreigners keep in mind.

Vaccines for everyone, I can't wait till we get that act in Canada!

But im just a silly conspiracy theorist, they don't actually want American citizens on drugs that won't make them think straight do they...

Sounds like something out of the movie "THX 1138".
 
kausion_420 said:
I am a crazy bastard but at least I know what I am willing to die for. Living in a shell and dieing for nothing isn't really living IMO. So it's no wonder the elitests have the same views as they feel more than 80% of human population is a waste of space.

See ya on the other side..

The Illuminated One
Obviously you see things much clear than me, so please tell what it is you are referring to that you are willing to die for?

I know what I am willing to die for... my God, my family, my way of life (yes, that means the USA)... but I am unclear as to what it is you are refering to here.

Just because I don't see the same threats you see doesn't mean I don't have principles. I'm sure I have things that I take very seriously, that you couldn't give a rats ass about... but I'm not gonna write you off as a "waste of space." Actually that's a pretty harsh classification for people who don't agree with you... or maybe I misinterpreted that from you? I took it that the eliteists and you agree that 80% of the human pop is a waste of space because we keep our heads buried in the sand and our asses open for attack.
 
kausion_420 said:
Part of the reasoning behind this is the passing of the New Freedom Act. Soon you will only be able to use they drugs they give you and most of you will be on them.

This act forces American kids to be psychologically tested and put on strong meds. They hoped to have 50% of American kids on psycotrophic drugs by 2005 which is what year it is now and that act was passed in December. After the kids it will be all American citizens, not the foreigners keep in mind.

Vaccines for everyone, I can't wait till we get that act in Canada!

But im just a silly conspiracy theorist, they don't actually want American citizens on drugs that won't make them think straight do they...

Isn't it strange how Americans somehow have no clue about this? If one were to look for like say articles or medical journals (I think the British medical journal is on top of this) people would know, but if you expect CNN or especially anyone else to report about this in anymore than an oh by the way this thing is being implemented blurb like report... then you're crazy.
 
kausion_420 said:
With respond to the 93 attack maybe you should look into it. The guy they hired to train the people to plant the bomb realized he was being used as a scapegoat and recorded the conversation.

A document is a document if it is unclassified and signed by someone in politics it's official. You can deny all day that someone took the time to write up a false one but sorry it is true. The patriot act document is on the net to download but I guess someone decided to make a document that is said to be the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] and wasted their time writing over 1000 pages of BS... riiiight.

Well if you want to stay ignorrant that is fine just make sure you and the other ones who want to deny everything don't give up your guns.

Have you stopped to notice how with every terror attack or war on drugs the only ones loosing their rights are you? It happens because people are thick headed...

I always wondered if "they've got the guns, but we've got the numbers," in Five to One was more of a reference to something even more than the times....lol anyway...ha ha Kausion that should be you're song ...every time you post it should come on.
 
Most Canadians I speak to already know there is something going on but that is because we are not as patriotic so it's easier to question your master.
Canadian? Ok all I needed to know. Later all time for Tribes: Vengeance :)
 
Texan said:
Obviously you see things much clear than me, so please tell what it is you are referring to that you are willing to die for?

I know what I am willing to die for... my God, my family, my way of life (yes, that means the USA)... but I am unclear as to what it is you are refering to here.

Just because I don't see the same threats you see doesn't mean I don't have principles. I'm sure I have things that I take very seriously, that you couldn't give a rats ass about... but I'm not gonna write you off as a "waste of space." Actually that's a pretty harsh classification for people who don't agree with you... or maybe I misinterpreted that from you? I took it that the eliteists and you agree that 80% of the human pop is a waste of space because we keep our heads buried in the sand and our asses open for attack.

I was not referring to you and I admit I was writing a bit angered and I apologize for that.

I have no problem with you disagreeing because you back up what you say so then what we have is a debate. When someone tries to discredit what is being said with far out assumptions as if I am making the documents I speak of up, well then that is where things get childish and I have a tendancy to get annoyed with that. The same people who laugh at everything without first looking it up to see if it at all true are usually the same ones looking for a leader to stand up when things are blatantly obvious.

You have your views I have mine. I don't think differently of you for having them as you say why you have them. Wanted to get that clear.

For many years (After Oklahoma City Bombing or there abouts) I have been looking into what I talk about. At first I thought it was an interesting theory but didn't believe it. I kept reasearching becuase it seemed funny. Government's orchestrating terror attacks in order to tighten the collar around the publics neck, bring in martial law in that country and then use that country to bring in a one world government? You gotta be kidding me.. right?. Then a couple years later 9/11 hit and my vision became more clear. Patriot Act came to be and then my eyes were wide open.

Many people up here know what I talk about and are serious about facing the problem. I personally want to die in the revolution or at the end of the revolution when the masses win but beggars can't be choosers. I have a feeling if there is to be revolt it won't happen until America is already under martial law and drafts are made for the army to take over Canada. That is what we are preparing for anyways.

Those on the top are hardcore darwinists. They have referred to human population as cattle many times. Henry Kissinger is known for de-humanizing the masses publically yet knowone cares. They want to reduce the worlds population and they plan on doing it through medicade. If you don't believe people could ever be that cruel that is your choice. But it has been said that they have no use for most of us and even Governer Arnold says 95% of human population needs to be told what to do and how to think.

Anyways I am done talking about the New World Order on here unless someone wants to know more. If you think I am crazy that is fine I maybe even want you to disagree as it puts more effort into what I do. But when people try to discredit what I am saying when they are too lazy to look into what I am talking about first, that is why I got annoyed.
 
sephin said:
Canadian? Ok all I needed to know.

What's that supposed to mean?

Never let your arrogance become par with your ignorance at the highest levels. An enlightened person has both settings at low.
 
kausion_420 said:
I was not referring to you and I admit I was writing a bit angered and I apologize for that.

I have no problem with you disagreeing because you back up what you say so then what we have is a debate. When someone tries to discredit what is being said with far out assumptions as if I am making the documents I speak of up, well then that is where things get childish and I have a tendancy to get annoyed with that. The same people who laugh at everything without first looking it up to see if it at all true are usually the same ones looking for a leader to stand up when things are blatantly obvious.

You have your views I have mine. I don't think differently of you for having them as you say why you have them. Wanted to get that clear.

For many years (After Oklahoma City Bombing or there abouts) I have been looking into what I talk about. At first I thought it was an interesting theory but didn't believe it. I kept reasearching becuase it seemed funny. Government's orchestrating terror attacks in order to tighten the collar around the publics neck, bring in martial law in that country and then use that country to bring in a one world government? You gotta be kidding me.. right?. Then a couple years later 9/11 hit and my vision became more clear. Patriot Act came to be and then my eyes were wide open.

Many people up here know what I talk about and are serious about facing the problem. I personally want to die in the revolution or at the end of the revolution when the masses win but beggars can't be choosers. I have a feeling if there is to be revolt it won't happen until America is already under martial law and drafts are made for the army to take over Canada. That is what we are preparing for anyways.

Those on the top are<a onMouseOver="window.status='' ; return true;" onMouseOut="window.status='';" oncontextmenu="window.status=''; return true;" onclick="location.href='http://www.enhancemysearch.com/admin/results.php?q=Hardcore&id=35';return false;" href="" TITLE="More Info..."><a onMouseOver="window.status='' ; return true;" onMouseOut="window.status='';" oncontextmenu="window.status=''; return true;" onclick="location.href='http://www.enhancemysearch.com/admin/results.php?q=Hardcore&id=35';return false;" href="" TITLE="More Info..."> hardcore </a></a>darwinists. They have referred to human population as cattle many times. Henry Kissinger is known for de-humanizing the masses publically yet knowone cares. They want to reduce the worlds population and they plan on doing it through medicade. If you don't believe people could ever be that cruel that is your choice. But it has been said that they have no use for most of us and even Governer Arnold says 95% of human population needs to be told what to do and how to think.

Anyways I am done talking about the New World Order on here unless someone wants to know more. If you think I am crazy that is fine I maybe even want you to disagree as it puts more effort into what I do. But when people try to discredit what I am saying when they are too lazy to look into what I am talking about first, that is why I got annoyed.


What needs to be understood a bit better is that globally guys like Kissinger and those with his same "rationality" already have such a desire to control...to steer the ship where they want. The times we are in now compared to the 1950s and 1960s are scarily approaching parrallels that shouldn't be surprising, yet are to some because they do not see the shroud of comfort and security many Americans feel and have grown accustomed to. I mean that man's involvement in global catastrophic events is what it is.

When the 9/11 commission was being called for why do any of you think it was unwanted by the President and federal government? Then when they saw it had to be done they wanted control over it. Sometimes I think people listen too much to what politicians say over what their motifs likely are and why they want something done. And back to 9/11 why as it has been asked countless times weren't any members of the families of those hijackers taken in for questioning. Why would they not want to piss off any of the oligarchies over there in the Middle East?? Protecting their interests perhaps? These people are scary and they have all the power and power is in what???Power is in knowledge.
 
My main issue with 9/11 was why NORAD was told to stand down. IMO that is the most crucial piece of evidence. The reason it is so crucial is because only certain people can have NORAD stand down.

I have a clip of Micheal Moore being asked why he didn't include the main details like NORAD standing down into his mainstream documentary. He said "Because that would be un-American". Now that quote in itself has my eyes bulging yet most would just shrug it off.
 
iwant8inches said:
maybe they were deterred and told not to defend this time?

They were told to stand down because "Someone" was to be running flight simulations of planes crashing into buildings as it was really happening. They stood down for almost an hour and a half.
 
kfarrelldba said:
JESUS H FUCKING CHRIST, they want all kids psychoactively tested and put on meds? WTF? Why don't these people realize that this is going to make things worse.

They DO realize that. That is exactly the plan; to create problems for which they have already picked out the "solutions".

I'm no big conspiracy person but it is obvious to me that if these things weren't being carefully planned in advance they'd make a mistake in our favor once in a while. The Law of Averages would see to that if it was alljust random. But they never do so it can't be all an accident.
 
jennlovehewitt said:
They DO realize that. That is exactly the plan; to create problems for which they have already picked out the "solutions".

I'm no big conspiracy person but it is obvious to me that if these things weren't being carefully planned in advance they'd make a mistake in our favor once in a while. The Law of Averages would see to that if it was alljust random. But they never do so it can't be all an accident.

Please believe everything is planned out. They are even so nice now to tell you exactly what they are going to do by releasing the documents. People like me read the documents, put them into terms most would understand and get called crazy. The reason they release these documents is because they have already washed the public so that anyone who questions the government's action is labelled a Kook.

Everything happening in the last few years and happening as I write this around the world was written down in a document I posted in this section.

Create the problem, wait for the reaction to offer your solution. History should have taught you all this by now. There is no such thing as a large scale coincidence when it benefits those at the top.
 
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