Silistretcher vs Stealth Stretcher?

[thedudefather]

I think that a year will bring you to your desired goal. Just keep upThe work continue with diligence and always look to increase the intensity wherever possible. And if you reach a plateau have no fear, we will help you create another routine that will get you over that hump.

Oh I meant by the end of this year, thats when I'm going to measure next. Don't care to see a ruler until then.

 

[oldandlively]

Please... elaborate, because I'm picking my brain up off the floor.

Better not be the same issue as DLD in the past where he has to scrape his noggin off the floor.

3lbs of traction WHILE doing expressives? I'm a bit baffled.

Expressive has two approaches: manual expressive using manual hands to perform freestyle stretches with dynamic bending, and manual mechanical assistant (LM3) stretches with angular bending that's less dynamic than freestyle using your hands.

Using your hands, the tugging is not static. It's constantly in a dynamic form where the traction tensions go from 0.5lb to as high as 7lbs. This is great if you want to maximize blood flow since you can add jelqs in between the stretches.

Using mechanical assistant adds a new dimension to partial static-partial dynamic tensions. The partial dynamic is when you hold, pull, hold, pull at specific tensions. You still change the tractions but you're keeping the tension static for a period of time, stressing the tissues out. HOWEVER, adding the 3lbs weight engages the tissues to remain static at all times at 3lbs, constantly stressing the tissues until you change the traction tension loading. It will feel strange at first as you shift from one angle of approach to another during bundling, but the tissues is constantly being pulled at 3lbs for the period your exercise. When the tissues break during a 7lbs tension load, the 3lbs tension load pry a bit more during the shifting of the movements. There's no rest for the tissues.

When you shift from one position to another after the initial bundle, the 3lbs engages the tissues constantly to break untapped areas of the stressed tissues. Visualize this:

Let's say 360 degree of your penile shaft has 360 connective tissues as representative of 100% tissues connections. Remember, the tunica and septum are like wired meshes with connective tissues all around them. When to perform penile lateral bundling with the LM3, you break the tissues between 180 to 300 connective points. You may even hit 330 connective points. That's just using the LM3 alone.

Now, adding that 2lbs to 5lbs (3lbs to be safe), during the bundling, you're stressing the connective tissues, pre-breaking the connective points along the way. When you reverse the bundlig, the constant stress load breaks the remaining connective points all the way to 360. The constant stress load helps to further pry the broken connective points apart to initiate cell healing, while the the bundling both direction further snap ever connective tissues all along the entire penile shaft. This is also true for the suspensory and fundiform ligaments if you're strapping close to base of the penis.

Most brothers that hang either don't do the bundling during hanging, or couldn't understand why their penis become more malleable after a hanging session (not paying attention to their bundling combo for the exercises).

Something to compare between light weights vs heavier weights during hanging.

 

[thedudefather]

Better not be the same issue as DLD in the past where he has to scrape his noggin off the floor.



Expressive has two approaches: manual expressive using manual hands to perform freestyle stretches with dynamic bending, and manual mechanical assistant (LM3) stretches with angular bending that's less dynamic than freestyle using your hands.

Using your hands, the tugging is not static. It's constantly in a dynamic form where the traction tensions go from 0.5lb to as high as 7lbs. This is great if you want to maximize blood flow since you can add jelqs in between the stretches.

Using mechanical assistant adds a new dimension to partial static-partial dynamic tensions. The partial dynamic is when you hold, pull, hold, pull at specific tensions. You still change the tractions but you're keeping the tension static for a period of time, stressing the tissues out. HOWEVER, adding the 3lbs weight engages the tissues to remain static at all times at 3lbs, constantly stressing the tissues until you change the traction tension loading. It will feel strange at first as you shift from one angle of approach to another during bundling, but the tissues is constantly being pulled at 3lbs for the period your exercise. When the tissues break during a 7lbs tension load, the 3lbs tension load pry a bit more during the shifting of the movements. There's no rest for the tissues.

When you shift from one position to another after the initial bundle, the 3lbs engages the tissues constantly to break untapped areas of the stressed tissues. Visualize this:

Let's say 360 degree of your penile shaft has 360 connective tissues as representative of 100% tissues connections. Remember, the tunica and septum are like wired meshes with connective tissues all around them. When to perform penile lateral bundling with the LM3, you break the tissues between 180 to 300 connective points. You may even hit 330 connective points. That's just using the LM3 alone.

Now, adding that 2lbs to 5lbs (3lbs to be safe), during the bundling, you're stressing the connective tissues, pre-breaking the connective points along the way. When you reverse the bundlig, the constant stress load breaks the remaining connective points all the way to 360. The constant stress load helps to further pry the broken connective points apart to initiate cell healing, while the the bundling both direction further snap ever connective tissues all along the entire penile shaft. This is also true for the suspensory and fundiform ligaments if you're strapping close to base of the penis.

Most brothers that hang either don't do the bundling during hanging, or couldn't understand why their penis become more malleable after a hanging session (not paying attention to their bundling combo for the exercises).

Something to compare between light weights vs heavier weights during hanging.

So essentially I would hang 3lbs while doing my downward and btc stretches?

 

[oldandlively]

So essentially I would hang 3lbs while doing my downward and btc stretches?

Down, sideways (over your thighs), backward (over a chair's arm as a pulley), or any angle you can "rig". We tend to use a pulley system in the past to achive this.

 

[thedudefather]

Guuuuuyyyyyssss, I can do btc expressives now!

 

[thedudefather]

Ok so two weeks in, definitely noticing a better flaccid hang and improved eq.

I do think I'll be moving to a 5 on/2 off routine to allow two full days of elongated healing while wearing a silisleeve2.

 

[oldandlively]

Man, you're making me jealous to push 5 on like that. Can't even do 1 on because the body is not letting me right now.

 

[DLD]

Ok so two weeks in, definitely noticing a better flaccid hang and improved eq.

I do think I'll be moving to a 5 on/2 off routine to allow two full days of elongated healing while wearing a silisleeve2.

That sounds good to me. Just be sure to get back to work after two days.Don't stretch it out or you will end up failing an falling off. I'm so glad you know this, but I'm gonna resay it for others, always keep yourself wrapped for as long as you can each day.

 

[thedudefather]

That sounds good to me. Just be sure to get back to work after two days.Don't stretch it out or you will end up failing an falling off. I'm so glad you know this, but I'm gonna resay it for others, always keep yourself wrapped for as long as you can each day.

I'm just gonna treat it like i treat my job - 5 days a week, and even though i have off days, I'm basically always working.

 

[thedudefather]

Ok here's a new one for you guys, chime in if you've had this happen -

My flaccid gains are now so much that, while doing dumbbell deadlifts, I kinda pinched my dick a little between the dumbbells.

 

[oldandlively]

Ok here's a new one for you guys, chime in if you've had this happen -

My flaccid gains are now so much that, while doing dumbbell deadlifts, I kinda pinched my dick a little between the dumbbells.

I think this is DLD, 9.5inPro, and 7.5in+ territory. I'm still in the "Where's the sausage?" category.

 

[thedudefather]

I think this is DLD, 9.5inPro, and 7.5in+ territory. I'm still in the "Where's the sausage?" category.

Dude I'm still in the "my dick went from looking like a peanut to a baby carrot" phase and it STILL pinched. Guess I'll need to wear briefs when I workout haha

 

[oldandlively]

Dude I'm still in the "my dick went from looking like a peanut to a baby carrot" phase and it STILL pinched. Guess I'll need to wear briefs when I workout haha

It may look strange, but pleasing to the ladies, but I normally wear slightly skin tight sweatpants. Not loose, but not skin tight. Just enough to keep things from moving all over the place. I wrap my penis while doing gym workout, preventing chaffing of the penile skin during workouts. It does look like I have a 6in extra large carrot on one side of my sweatpants.

 

[thedudefather]

It may look strange, but pleasing to the ladies, but I normally wear slightly skin tight sweatpants. Not loose, but not skin tight. Just enough to keep things from moving all over the place. I wrap my penis while doing gym workout, preventing chaffing of the penile skin during workouts. It does look like I have a 6in extra large carrot on one side of my sweatpants.

I just work out at home, way more convenient for me. Plus I can lift in my undies, cant do that at a gym

 

[DLD]

I think this is DLD, 9.5inPro, and 7.5in+ territory. I'm still in the "Where's the sausage?" category.

At Pizza Hut

 

[thedudefather]

Loving my routine but I think I may want to adjust to focus on length more.

I'm gonna switch to length pumping with my 1.5" tube, would adding 15 mins of stretching and replacing ssj with standard/c jelqs be a good idea?

 

[DLD]

Loving my routine but I think I may want to adjust to focus on length more.

I'm gonna switch to length pumping with my 1.5" tube, would adding 15 mins of stretching and replacing ssj with standard/c jelqs be a good idea?

Am I experience the slow squash jelq has always been my favorite because of the expansion.It brings. But go and try one day using the C jelq and so the next session and compare circumference, if one's better than the other use that one.

I'm happy to hear you're getting a new tube.This must be because you have made some growth.So congratulations.

 

[thedudefather]

Am I experience the slow squash jelq has always been my favorite because of the expansion.It brings. But go and try one day using the C jelq and so the next session and compare circumference, if one's better than the other use that one.

I'm happy to hear you're getting a new tube.This must be because you have made some growth.So congratulations.

I've had the 1.5" tube for over a year now, last year I hit 7.75" in this tube from pumping alone.

I think going to the more narrow tube will help me hit my length goal quicker.

 

[thedudefather]

So my new routine would be:

Am 15 mins expressive stretches and 20 mins shaft stretching

Pm 15 mins stretches and 30 mins pumping with jelqs

 

[DLD]

I've had the 1.5" tube for over a year now, last year I hit 7.75" in this tube from pumping alone.

I think going to the more narrow tube will help me hit my length goal quicker.

Indeed, a thinner cylinder will bring length much quicker, but it does not do much for girth. Looking at your new routine, it's good you're getting girthwork in as this combined with the thinner cylinder, you should do very well.

 

[thedudefather]

Indeed, a thinner cylinder will bring length much quicker, but it does not do much for girth. Looking at your new routine, it's good you're getting girthwork in as this combined with the thinner cylinder, you should do very well.

That's what I'm hoping for. I dm'd you my current routine. Think it'll bring the gains I'm looking to achieve?

 

[DLD]

That's what I'm hoping for. I dm'd you my current routine. Think it'll bring the gains I'm looking to achieve?

Send it to guru.dld@gmail.com

 

[thedudefather]

Send it to guru.dld@gmail.com

Sent

 

[DLD]

Sent

Got it thanks my brother

 

[thedudefather]

So after getting out of the shower I noticed the hair on top of my head is thinning. Would taking minoxidil affect any possible gains?

 

[oldandlively]

Not sure of cellular degeneration is part of the long list, including a vasodilator's side effects, but no report on it according to the manufacturer.

 

[thedudefather]

Not sure of cellular degeneration is part of the long list, including a vasodilator's side effects, but no report on it according to the manufacturer.

Sweet, with everything going on right now losing my hair is stress I dont need

 

[DLD]

Sweet, with everything going on right now losing my hair is stress I dont need

Oh, I am praying for you and your hair. I know it can be frustrating.I went through it with gray hair, but it's just a fact of life.Unless you can find something to correct it. But if not strut your stuff as a bald man

 

[thedudefather]

Oh, I am praying for you and your hair. I know it can be frustrating.I went through it with gray hair, but it's just a fact of life.Unless you can find something to correct it. But if not strut your stuff as a bald man

Haha hopefully it's just temporary while I get through this stressful period, but if it continues I'll rock the bald look for sure.

 

[DLD]

Haha hopefully it's just temporary while I get through this stressful period, but if it continues I'll rock the bald look for sure.

Me too! I would rather have a bald head than a really thinning hair.

 

[thedudefather]

Me too! I would rather have a bald head than a really thinning hair.

Oh yeah, not gonna be a comb-over guy

 

[DLD]

Oh yeah, not gonna be a comb-over guy

 

[thedudefather]

Hey guys, just checking in-

Had to take about 10ish days off because I forgot the padding on my lengthmaster one day and the edge gave me a little skin break across the width of my shaft.

Starting back up tomorrow and going on a 2 month tear before my new years trip

 

[oldandlively]

Did you install extra padding now or did the old glued padding came off and try to replace the old padding with your own?

 

[thedudefather]

Did you install extra padding now or did the old glued padding came off and try to replace the old padding with your own?

I have a piece of cloth I would just set on the bottom portion but I forgot to use it that day, so last night I cut a new piece and taped it down. Much better today

 

[oldandlively]

I have a piece of cloth I would just set on the bottom portion but I forgot to use it that day, so last night I cut a new piece and taped it down. Much better today

Rather than cloth, my suggestion is a 3mm or even 4mm thick TPU that you can get anywhere. Don't limit your thickness and test on thicker layer. Strip the old padding down, and put on the new layer with a bit of cement glue. If you don't like the feeling of the TPU, use soft silicone instead. Both will give you the needed padding, traction, and comforts over the current LM rubber pad lining.

 

[thedudefather]

Decided to up the pump pressure to my old routine of 5/7/9/7/9 and holy hell did it feel good haha.

Moving away from low pressure to really kick these gains into gear

 

[oldandlively]

I can tell you that brother @Haursen is becoming a PE researcher who has exceeded most urologists' knowledge. He as confirmed something that we've been developing for the last 1.5 decades on his own through his own methods of extensive knowledge compilation. He found and validated the importance of exceeding the normalized internal pressure of 5inHg, while adding 20% to the optimal expansion pressure starting at 6inHg. With that a preamble to what I'm telling you, do this, since going up to 9 did not cause blistering of the glans's skin in your last routine:

• Start with low pressure at 5 to 5.5, swing every 30 seconds to warm up in the first session
• Then 7 to break the soft expansion barrier at 30%, but swing between 7 and 6 every 30 seconds. This is to safeguard your sensitive tissues you just recovered from while causing a good safe internal expansion.
• Switch up to 8, then 7 every 30 seconds to replicate the last highest expansion zone.
• BUT, rather than remaining static at 9 and 7, switch between 9 and 6 every 30 seconds. Notice the 6 and not the 7. This allows the higher swing of expansion and relaxation, preventing the stress loads as you just come back to pumping and entering the breaking phases.
• The last few sets, swing between 8 and 6 every 30 seconds or even at 7 and 6. You already expanded. No need go any higher pumping. Train your body to produce the on-demand nitric oxide and endorphin levels needed for a stronger erection. The internal expansion through natural means is much more important than pumping.

By swinging between the pressures, you can maintain a high-moderate expansion, but not long enough to cause edema that can create blisters on the young and tender glans's skin.

 

[thedudefather]

I can tell you that brother @Haursen is becoming a PE researcher who has exceeded most urologists' knowledge. He as confirmed something that we've been developing for the last 1.5 decades on his own through his own methods of extensive knowledge compilation. He found and validated the importance of exceeding the normalized internal pressure of 5inHg, while adding 20% to the optimal expansion pressure starting at 6inHg. With that a preamble to what I'm telling you, do this, since going up to 9 did not cause blistering of the glans's skin in your last routine:

• Start with low pressure at 5 to 5.5, swing every 30 seconds to warm up in the first session
• Then 7 to break the soft expansion barrier at 30%, but swing between 7 and 6 every 30 seconds. This is to safeguard your sensitive tissues you just recovered from while causing a good safe internal expansion.
• Switch up to 8, then 7 every 30 seconds to replicate the last highest expansion zone.
• BUT, rather than remaining static at 9 and 7, switch between 9 and 6 every 30 seconds. Notice the 6 and not the 7. This allows the higher swing of expansion and relaxation, preventing the stress loads as you just come back to pumping and entering the breaking phases.
• The last few sets, swing between 8 and 6 every 30 seconds or even at 7 and 6. You already expanded. No need go any higher pumping. Train your body to produce the on-demand nitric oxide and endorphin levels needed for a stronger erection. The internal expansion through natural means is much more important than pumping.

By swinging between the pressures, you can maintain a high-moderate expansion, but not long enough to cause edema that can create blisters on the young and tender glans's skin.

Haha well at almost 34 my glans ain't so young and tender as it used to be

That said, with the different 30 second swings, how long should I be in the pump for per set?

 

[oldandlively]

Haha well at almost 34 my glans ain't so young and tender as it used to be

We think our skin are aged and rough. Not so. The moment our skin is blistered or damaged, new skin is formed. That's very young and tender skin. Ever have a lady lick and kiss that young new skin? OOoooooo. Goosebumps. Now, don't go and cause bad damage just to experience the fun.

That said, with the different 30 second swings, how long should I be in the pump for per set?

The same amount of time what you're using now for your sets. If your sets are 5 minutes, you get a nice amount of swings between the pressures. If you have only 2 to 3 minutes, that's fine too. You only need enough pressure to break the tissues down for internal expansion using SSJ.

 

[thedudefather]

So it definitely seems like I had better expansion by constantly switching the pressure. This will be my new pumping routine during 5x5x3

 

[oldandlively]

The body is willing to allow a fluctuation of pressures over static pressures. It will even adopt the expansion as part of the "normal" fluctuation over the "abnormal" sudden high static pressures. If the body rejects anything, the body will reset itself back to the original size. If it adopts, it will accept the changes. Good to see that your body is in this zone of adoption.

 

[thedudefather]

The body is willing to allow a fluctuation of pressures over static pressures. It will even adopt the expansion as part of the "normal" fluctuation over the "abnormal" sudden high static pressures. If the body rejects anything, the body will reset itself back to the original size. If it adopts, it will accept the changes. Good to see that your body is in this zone of adoption.

I definitely feel fortunate that no matter what I throw at it, my body adapts pretty quickly and positively. Now if I could just stay consistent with it

 

[DLD]

Oh yeah, not gonna be a comb-over guy

So it definitely seems like I had better expansion by constantly switching the pressure. This will be my new pumping routine during 5x5x3

Perfect expansion 5x5x3 there's nothing better and you can even mess around with how many times you go and how much time you go for but basically the 5x5x3 is perfect

 

[thedudefather]

Perfect expansion 5x5x3 there's nothing better and you can even mess around with how many times you go and how much time you go for but basically the 5x5x3 is perfect

Oh yeah, once I finally got the ssj down it made things so much better. And with this new pumping routine during, it'll be even better

 

[thedudefather]

Going on an all out length blitz, doing 2 sessions per day.

Is 4hrs enough in the evening for sleeve use? I wear one for at least 7-8hrs during the morning/early afternoon.

40 mins am, 20 mins pm

 

[oldandlively]

Going on an all out length blitz, doing 2 sessions per day.

Is 4hrs enough in the evening for sleeve use? I wear one for at least 7-8hrs during the morning/early afternoon.

40 mins am, 20 mins pm

Perfectly fine for 4 hrs for night time since you already use it during the day. Always take advantage of your hard work after the routine to optimize your growth. If you are limited on time, no worries for the night time.

 

[thedudefather]

Perfectly fine for 4 hrs for night time since you already use it during the day. Always take advantage of your hard work after the routine to optimize your growth. If you are limited on time, no worries for the night time.

Well I walk my dog around 3:30pm so I'll take 3g l-citrulline malate, remove my sleeve to get some blood flow going, then knock out another 20 mins of stretching to bring it to 1hr total on the day and wear my sleeve until around 9-9:30pm.

Figure I'd focus on length more since I seem to gain girth a bit easier.

 

[DLD]

Well I walk my dog around 3:30pm so I'll take 3g l-citrulline malate, remove my sleeve to get some blood flow going, then knock out another 20 mins of stretching to bring it to 1hr total on the day and wear my sleeve until around 9-9:30pm.

Figure I'd focus on length more since I seem to gain girth a bit easier.

That's fine as a matter of fact, many men go for length first then girth. The same is also true for those who only want girth over length.

 

[thedudefather]

That's fine as a matter of fact, many men go for length first then girth. The same is also true for those who only want girth over length.

Well I was shooting for both at the same time, but would rather go for length first so I'm gonna stick to it.