Proud grower never wants to be a shower

[FullBloodArab]

I keep reading on PE forums that there is a wish to be a grower.

So that the girls see your hang while walking outside etc.

I find that very disturbing.

Who wants for someone else to see you thing?

What about the men who see this? The children, the elderly or your families members you sitting with?

If I was a shower (sometimes a grower somehow gets a full day heavy hang also) then I would wear tide jeans underwear to hide that thing.

Not a sweatpants to show it off in the streets, and maybe on purpose without underwear wtf?

And for your wife or girlfriend,who already knows your size. She don't give a damn about how your hang through the day or inside at home if there is no sex involved.

For example she already knows you are big, that wil change nothing of its small flaccid. So there isn't another reason

(Maybe for the naked beach or naked sauna visitors) 1 in a million men

So it's a retardisch thought you have right there

Or am I crazy?

 

[enrikxl]

A guy who pumps over at another forum and has a very big flaccid said it good, having a penis is part of being a man, nothing to be ashamed of.

Having a very big penis that shows for other women can be good since it can make your girlfriend be on her toes to not lose you since other women can see what you are packing. She will be afraid other women will hit on you because of your large penis.

Having a small penis with an erection at the wrong occasion that pokes out straight 90 degree in your pants is extemely inappropriate.

There is no occasion where a large flaccid penis is inappropriate if it hangs and isnt erect its not inappropriate.

 

[FullBloodArab]

A guy who pumps over at another forum and has a very big flaccid said it good, having a penis is part of being a man, nothing to be ashamed of.

Having a very big penis that shows for other women can be good since it can make your girlfriend be on her toes to not lose you since other women can see what you are packing. She will be afraid other women will hit on you because of your large penis.

Having a small penis with an erection at the wrong occasion that pokes out straight 90 degree in your pants is extemely inappropriate.

There is no occasion where a large flaccid penis is inappropriate if it hangs and isnt erect its not inappropriate.

That's one of those guys right here haha gosh

"I don't wanna lose my man because he has such a big penis"

How old are you dude? That's completely not what a reason from a woman would be to not wanna lose her man.

I woman will dump your ass immediately if you mistreat her a big dick or not, and she never will think of your sorry ass dick never again.

Maybe it's you who don't wanna lose a girl because of her huge boobs or ass and take that as a reason to live a decade with her

 

[enrikxl]

That's one of those guys right here haha gosh

"I don't wanna lose my man because he has such a big penis"

How old are you dude? That's completely not what a reason from a woman would be to not wanna lose her man.

I woman will dump your ass immediately if you mistreat her a big dick or not, and she never will think of your sorry ass dick never again.

Maybe it's you who don't wanna lose a girl because of her huge boobs or ass and take that as a reason to live a decade with her

Well Sara brightman famously said she was with andrew lloyd webber because "he simply has the biggest penis". Im not saying its good or bad just a sad fact (if you think so) that some women really do care, and having a huge bulge will make women interested in you sexually which will make your partner be on her toes!

 

[Lightning]

This is like me, i'm a grower and my wife knows it grows , so I really don't worry about it much.
I guess if you are young and out looking for young women, they may be impressed so you would have more of a chance if they are not so attacted to your looks.

 

[DLD]

I been both. Through my 20s to late 40s I was always a shower. But now as I get older (52 pretty soon) I seem to turtle more. It does not bother me as my penis is long enough that it looks more like I was Uncircumcised if anything. If I wear tight underwear, which I had to for a while, I can really turtle ? big time! Sometimes looks like a gold ? fish cracker I guess the lesson is as you age keep that Phallosan around to use for maintenance work. Flacicity is wildly unpredictable.

 

[MCBLZ]

Flaccid hang can be so variable. But I will say on those days post BM / LM heavy workout, there is a psychological bump when your dick feels and looks bigger than the day before, Maybe this is a function of the fact that I assumed I had a "small" dick for 30 years when in fact I as slightly above average. But for me, a heavy flaccid makes a difference to ME...

 

[FullBloodArab]

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Well Sara brightman famously said she was with andrew lloyd webber because "he simply has the biggest penis". Im not saying its good or bad just a sad fact (if you think so) that some women really do care, and having a huge bulge will make women interested in you sexually which will make your partner be on her toes!

You just gave a fact about what one single woman said as a PR stunt (to increase her fan base with types like you apparently)

But previous you were trying to sold it as a fact as if its a wold wide behaviour of woman in general

 

[enrikxl]

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You just gave a fact about what one single woman said as a PR stunt (to increase her fan base with types like you apparently)

But previous you were trying to sold it as a fact as if its a wold wide behaviour of woman in general

Yeah man, it's all good. I meant not to upset you in any way. I just think that a huge bulge will defintaly attract the attention of women, I'm absolutely sure about that.

I also think we all feel good and confident when the penis is hanging low! Appereantly turtling is an effect of an overly elastic penis. So if you turtle=means your penis is too elastic and wants to contract. As opposed to being compliant=wanting to hang low and stretch out. Maybe the number of hours of erection per day matters in keeping the penis from becoming elastic. Maybe try more pumping dld? However I'm sure when you say "turtle" it is a shower still haha.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I keep reading on PE forums that there is a wish to be a grower.

So that the girls see your hang while walking outside etc.

I find that very disturbing.

Who wants for someone else to see you thing?

What about the men who see this? The children, the elderly or your families members you sitting with?

If I was a shower (sometimes a grower somehow gets a full day heavy hang also) then I would wear tide jeans underwear to hide that thing.

Not a sweatpants to show it off in the streets, and maybe on purpose without underwear wtf?

And for your wife or girlfriend,who already knows your size. She don't give a damn about how your hang through the day or inside at home if there is no sex involved.

For example she already knows you are big, that wil change nothing of its small flaccid. So there isn't another reason

(Maybe for the naked beach or naked sauna visitors) 1 in a million men

So it's a retardisch thought you have right there

Or am I crazy?

Some guys like how it makes them feel, gives them a perception of more confidence knowing that a larger hang bulging through clothing and being seen by women will make them feel good.

I have been there, but now have grown up. (like)

Its true what you say, others could see the bulge or shape through clothing, which is kinda disgusting really. I had never thought about it like that before.

Something I do know for a fact, is, just because a woman looks at a mans bulge, doesn't mean she is interested or even attracted by it. I remember seeing some what I can only refer to as a pervert on YouTube going around his daily life with some fake penis in his pants, and a hidden camera to record the public [female] reactions to it.

You got women looking at it, smiling to each other, laughing, some looked uncomfortable that were sat opposite to him. This isn't attraction, its embarrassment and not knowing what to do in the situation.

Some guys just adore allot of power and control, this is just another method of getting it.

A time and a place exists for this, like if you were flirting properly with a female, not sat on a train in full view of folk. Just plain creepy if you ask me.

A grower will give more a surprise then the shower if you think about it.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Having a very big penis that shows for other women can be good since it can make your girlfriend be on her toes to not lose you since other women can see what you are packing. She will be afraid other women will hit on you because of your large penis

serious? seems very immature

 

[REDZULU2003]

Flaccid size changes very often with all men, and linked heavily with temperature, your mental well being, and if your unwell. For example, during or after a cold it will be affected.

 

[Brawn Johnson]

Wait... did anyone else notice my posts -- and enrik's replies to my posts -- disappear from this thread? I posted, Enrik and I had a brief back-and-forth, and I was just writing my next reply when I noticed half the thread was gone? Enrik? Anyone?

 

[enrikxl]

serious? seems very immature

I think that is how sexual attraction works, yes. Read many studies saying women prefer large flaccid penis so have no reason to think otherwise. Immature, I don't see why?

Here you go my man, "
How important is penis size?

Authors from the Australian National University, Monash and La Trobe provide the most complete answer yet: the size of a flaccid penis can significantly affect how attractive a man’s body is to women.

"

source: http://theconversation.com/penis-size-may-be-driven-by-women-oh-and-it-matters-12875

 

[Brawn Johnson]

Okay... Well, I actually had most of my response copy-pasted elsewhere. "Take two," I guess. I'll back up all posts as screen shots from now on. Maybe the website is having technical issues?

So it's a retardisch thought you have right there

Or am I crazy?

FullBlood... you're crazy.

I keep reading on PE forums that there is a wish to be a [show-er].

So that the girls see your hang while walking outside etc.

I changed 'grower' to 'show-er' in the quote above because I believe that's what you meant. Correct me if I'm wrong!

1) I want to be a show-er for a completely different reason, and that's probably the case for other men as well. PE for me is like bodybuilding, it's just aesthetic for me. I think wangs are usually just an awkward size in proportion to the rest of the body, and look much better when they are unusually large. It's for the simple joy of looking good with no clothes on. And precisely because of that I would want to be a show-er. I don't want it to look good when erect but goofy when not!

2) But let's assume that we have a man who wants to be a show-er for the reason you've stated. He wants to be able to broadcast his size to potential mates on the street. In this case, you yourself have already mentioned how this could be controlled. So if you're going to a family dinner or just out and about normally, you wear clothes that hide your package. It's not hard even if you're hung like a horse. If you're going to the club, you can wear something nice and tight that let's everyone know what you're packing.

3) Humans put on sexual displays for each other all the time. Women wear clothes that show off their figures, shoes that do the same, and even makeup to mimic sexual readiness! Guys mostly show off for potential mates in other ways, but they will also wear clothing to accentuate musculature and athletic physiques.

For example she already knows you are big, that wil change nothing of its small flaccid. So there isn't another reason

In this case we're talking about a male who has already attracted his mate. So now we are no longer considering the male who wants to show off for ladies on the street. (Or, at least, it isn't as important to him anymore. )

But if we're still assuming that this is for his woman's benefit, perhaps she wants a guy who is big all the time! I like big ol' boobies myself, and I wouldn't want a lady who only has big ol' boobies when she's turned on, but then they shrivel up when she isn't. Females aren't generally as visually driven as we are, but that doesn't mean looks don't matter!

How old are you dude? That's completely not what a reason from a woman would be to not wanna lose her man.

I actually agree with you that most females at the very least do not prioritize this. In fact, I've spoken with one lady who actually stopped seeing a dude when she realized how big he was because she was intimidated by the prospect of sex with him!

Having said that...

1) This is an issue with PE more broadly, not with the grower vs show-er question. If you think the dick should be bigger whether erect or flaccid for the purposes of attracting/pleasing mates, then you are either pursuing your goal all wrong or you are targeting a very specific sub-section of the female population. (There are billions of women in this world. SOME of them are seeking well-hung males).

2) Just because a thing is not a make-or-break priority doesn't mean it isn't a factor at all. To use a physique analogy, your rippling six pack abs may not be THE reason you have a lady but she certainly prefers them to a beer belly.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Studies are not the be all and end all. For those studies that agree, you could dig about and find studies that suggest the opposite or neutral result.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Okay... Well, I actually had most of my response copy-pasted elsewhere. "Take two," I guess. I'll back up all posts as screen shots from now on. Maybe the website is having technical issues?


FullBlood... you're crazy.


I changed 'grower' to 'show-er' in the quote above because I believe that's what you meant. Correct me if I'm wrong!

1) I want to be a show-er for a completely different reason, and that's probably the case for other men as well. PE for me is like bodybuilding, it's just aesthetic for me. I think wangs are usually just an awkward size in proportion to the rest of the body, and look much better when they are unusually large. It's for the simple joy of looking good with no clothes on. And precisely because of that I would want to be a show-er. I don't want it to look good when erect but goofy when not!

2) But let's assume that we have a man who wants to be a show-er for the reason you've stated. He wants to be able to broadcast his size to potential mates on the street. In this case, you yourself have already mentioned how this could be controlled. So if you're going to a family dinner or just out and about normally, you wear clothes that hide your package. It's not hard even if you're hung like a horse. If you're going to the club, you can wear something nice and tight that let's everyone know what you're packing.

3) Humans put on sexual displays for each other all the time. Women wear clothes that show off their figures, shoes that do the same, and even makeup to mimic sexual readiness! Guys mostly show off for potential mates in other ways, but they will also wear clothing to accentuate musculature and athletic physiques.


In this case we're talking about a male who has already attracted his mate. So now we are no longer considering the male who wants to show off for ladies on the street. (Or, at least, it isn't as important to him anymore. )

But if we're still assuming that this is for his woman's benefit, perhaps she wants a guy who is big all the time! I like big ol' boobies myself, and I wouldn't want a lady who only has big ol' boobies when she's turned on, but then they shrivel up when she isn't. Females aren't generally as visually driven as we are, but that doesn't mean looks don't matter!


I actually agree with you that most females at the very least do not prioritize this. In fact, I've spoken with one lady who actually stopped seeing a dude when she realized how big he was because she was intimidated by the prospect of sex with him!

Having said that...

1) This is an issue with PE more broadly, not with the grower vs show-er question. If you think the dick should be bigger whether erect or flaccid for the purposes of attracting/pleasing mates, then you are either pursuing your goal all wrong or you are targeting a very specific sub-section of the female population. (There are billions of women in this world. SOME of them are seeking well-hung males).

2) Just because a thing is not a make-or-break priority doesn't mean it isn't a factor at all. To use a physique analogy, your rippling six pack abs may not be THE reason you have a lady but she certainly prefers them to a beer belly.

I think it had a technical glitch because I lost several posts

 

[enrikxl]

I think no single guy on this website would say no to a permanent floppy 8 inch flaccid. I certainly would be happy at that size. I think 4" is start of attractive flaccid size to women, 5" flaccid is big, 6" flaccid is huge, 7" flaccid is very rare and 8" would probably be the biggest flaccid a woman has ever seen.

 

[Brawn Johnson]

I think it had a technical glitch because I lost several posts

Odd... Well thanks for the response. I thought I was taking crazy pills there for a sec!

In case this is helpful for Lightning:

I wasn't able to post at all last night, something about a server error. Around the time I lost the posts just now I was unable to load Enrik's post history on his profile.

Studies are not the be all and end all. For those studies that agree, you could dig about and find studies that suggest the opposite or neutral result.

I agree, and this is really a critique of ALL evidence ('I think, therefore I am') but we still need to do the best we can with the evidence we have.

If you or FullBlood can find studies disagreeing with this, we can compare methodologies.

Mind you, I'm actually coming from the same place as you and FullBlood on this specific issue. My impression is that there are better and more important ways to attract females than a pants bulge. BUT... so far Enrik is the only one to actually post a study.

 

[REDZULU2003]

But a percentage wouldn't want it showing [bulging] in the pants so everyone could see it.
That to me is creepy, as I stated earlier on, but each to there own.