Need Some Info/Links for Picking Up Girls, Social Situation Improvement ETC.

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MikeShlort

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Give me your tips on how to pull girls. I just want to fuck as many as I can. The ones I know from work and strangers.

I've been told by a chick before "You have the look, you just need the hook". I could never figure out "the hook" part. And now that I have the cock I feel that it is my obligation to have as many girls as possible.

I have no interest in a relationship. I just want many friends with benefits, one night stands, and dirty sluts (hopefully no diseases).

Give me your advice, resources, articles, anecdotes to make me the pussy puller I was destined to be.

Thanks.

MikeShlort
 
Hmmmm, there are a couple of things you can do, there are these reads that may be what you need and some brothers have mentioned them. The first one is the "Tao of Badass" and the second one is "Double your dating" (please remove if needed, violating the rules is the last thing I want :) ) and the other thing is this

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?53-The-Dating-amp-Seduction-Center

Hope this helps, and go and ravage these pussies, man! You got the look, you got the hook, you got the cook (yeah, no sense, but it rhymes rofl )
 
MikeShlort;550434 said:
Just need to figure out how to go from eye contact to vaginal contact... Those crucial middle steps I am unclear on.
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Well I think that the products I recommended above and the link I gave you will give you the needed information, but require you to read through them. If I had the answer ready and I knew it- I'd tell you to do this this this and this, but all I can help you with is telling you what might be helpful to you. Hope you learn what you need and bang like crazy :P :)
 
I think that the most important thing to realize is that women are people, just like us and you must not be worried to talk to them. Be cool and calm, be relaxed and don't try to appeal to her. Act normally- joke, amuse her. It's not that hard- just relax :)
 
I don't really have trouble talking to hot girls in regular life situations if there is an introduction.

I guess what I am really asking is where can I meet more girls, and how do I talk to girls that I haven't already been introduced to?

I seem to do well if I have enough time with the girls and if there is an introduction. If I am with a few pals and there is a group of girls, or at a party or whatever, chances are at least one of them will dig me. But I don't get many chances like that because I have few pals, and the ones I do have don't often go out.

So I need to find out WHERE I can meet more women and HOW to approach them without having that formal introduction. I feel as if I haven't been formally introduced to them, that I am just trying to get something from them (sex). I feel as if I were to introduce myself to a strange woman, whether it be on the street or at a bar, it would be obvious that I am trying to pull her, therefore her defenses would be up, she would be more judgmental and I would have to be very captivating to pull it off.

The bar seems very unnatural and forced compared to meeting women in real life, but it is my only option as I am mid 20s, not in school and don't have a large social circle of people who go to parties and hang out with groups of females.
 
MikeShlort;550511 said:
I don't really have trouble talking to hot girls in regular life situations if there is an introduction.

I guess what I am really asking is where can I meet more girls, and how do I talk to girls that I haven't already been introduced to?

I seem to do well if I have enough time with the girls and if there is an introduction. If I am with a few pals and there is a group of girls, or at a party or whatever, chances are at least one of them will dig me. But I don't get many chances like that because I have few pals, and the ones I do have don't often go out.

So I need to find out WHERE I can meet more women and HOW to approach them without having that formal introduction. I feel as if I haven't been formally introduced to them, that I am just trying to get something from them (sex). I feel as if I were to introduce myself to a strange woman, whether it be on the street or at a bar, it would be obvious that I am trying to pull her, therefore her defenses would be up, she would be more judgmental and I would have to be very captivating to pull it off.

The bar seems very unnatural and forced compared to meeting women in real life, but it is my only option as I am mid 20s, not in school and don't have a large social
circle of people who go to parties and hang out with groups of females.
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Mike, you are so close bro.
You already know where there are large numbers of young single women looking to get fucked.
You just have to get over yourself bro.
The only thing keeping you from getting laid is your own hangups you expressed here, and fear.
Feel the fear and do it anyway.
the main reason women go to bars is to drink to loosen their inhibitions, dance with guys to get an idea how they might move in bed, and get picked up to go get fucked.
Being a student of kingsnake you know this.
So you have decided you don't want to go to bars. That's your choice, but the natural consequence of your choice is a dry dick.
You have decided to focus on repeating your negative self-talk of "I don't know what to say". So that's drilled into your own head by you.
Many brothers have given you openers. Practice them.
You take your drink to the table of a girl you like the looks of.
You say "hi." Smile. "Mind if I sit with you a while and Talk?"
Then compliment her on what you noticed that attracted your attention.
"I noticed your long brown hair from across the room. Its really beautiful."
"What do you do?"
"Your body is in great shape? Do you work out?"
"Do you dance?"
"What's that you like to drink there? Can I buy you another?"
"This don't make no sence?" (She will ask "what's that?") "That a beautiful girl like you is alone on a Friday night out. Where's you man?"

Your goal is not to fuck one woman.
Your goal is to say "hi" and try to conversate.
In fact, I like the total removal of fear by making it a negative goal:
"I plan to get shot down while saying hi."
Do that 3x every Friday and Saturday for 4 months.
Call it practice not clubbing not dating not prowling, just practice.
Don't even go with the focus of fucking someone.
Go with the plan to approach 100
women in 4 months. No further goal than that. Just "I'm going to talk to 100 different women over the next 4 months." That's it. Make a chart, 4 sheets of notebook paper with 1-100 on the left margins. Your only goal is to put 100 new names down in 16 weeks.
Go.
 
Heads up, we are starting a dating and seduction section on the upcoming site. We have 2 highly qualified people who will head the forum. I think it will be a very powerful addition to the Brotherhood.

In the meantime MIKE, I can suggest the donjuan forum.
 
Man, not doing well guys. I feel like I'm 14 years old at the bar, an awkward fuck surrounded by cutthroat people who know I am not on their level. I can't even bring myself to try approaching. I really don't think I will ever figure this one out...

It's not even that I fear rejection, it's that I can tell they are not interested and just mock my presence in the first place, so what's the point? Man, it did not used to be this bad but maybe time is catching up with me and I am too old, they can tell I am out of place. I am definitely not welcomed. It just seems so out of my grasp.. the whole situation.

Don't know, guys! With all the skin tight booty shorts and millions of good looking, confident, mentally sound guys, I think the only way I could get a woman is if I get lucky enough to find one that will let me pay her way... But we know that I'd rather eat the shit out of my own asshole before that happens.

Not even sure if anyone can give me advice on this one... I seize up the second I get into the place. Not even out of fear of rejection... I just can't seem to make my mind believe it is possible to do. I can't visualize it and my dick shrivels up when I walk in. It's frustrating.

The advice you guys give me is clearly from people who are okay with themselves - go to bar, walk up to girl, introduce yourself, start conversation, physical contact, ask for number - impossible.
 
MikeShlort;553628 said:
go to bar, walk up to girl, introduce yourself, start conversation, physical contact, ask for number - impossible.
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Women are usually not alone @ bars, which makes things more difficult. Basically having to please two or more girls and coming off in a certain way that those(multiple) women like you and not putting too much attention on one girl while making the others defensive towards you.

It really depends on the bar you go to I guess. This can give you more things to chit chat about, basically putting her/them up for a situational opener(s)(an opening based upon a situation).
You have to mimic the vibe of a group of women or woman, you can't just willy-nilly walk up randomly/awkwardly, start chit-chatting and go for a close that's going to benefit you in any way (unless you're very charming, good looking, and/or have a good sexual vibe that the women/woman fed off of (but all this would need to happen quick)).

What time did you enter the bar and what time did you exit? Sometimes you can just sit @ the bar (w/ a drink) @ a certain time and women will come back and forth buying drinks (or men will for them).
This breaks them apart from their pact(since there might be one sole person purchasing drinks) and can give you a chance to open a girl outside her circle(if shes w/ people).
Just don't be that "creep" @ the bar.
If you carry a good conversion (@ the above point) and she seems to be interested in you (but also needs to go to another part of the bar, you can say (with your phone in your hand), that "I don't know anyone here(@ the bar) and never been here before, I'm waiting for friends, "can I join you"? I just pulled this out of my ass, but it can't if shes interested.
Sitting @ the bar might help calm you down, lets you marinate to the atmosphere or might give you some ideas. Just don't be a creep nor start eye fucking groups/women.

Night game is easier for a lot of people while others might do better @ day game, just really depends. Night game for women being in the zone of socializing and day game has a lot to do about situation and where shes @.


Do you not have subject matter (shit to talk about (or worse: can you stoop yourself down a level(s) and carry a conversation if the other person is dumb as fuck))?
Then again, the women/woman might not seem interesting. Are you interesting?
A lot of dudes will straight up lie to women in pickup just to fuck them and never call them back. You can get away with a lot of shit unless they shit test you on it (IE: pictures of your fake ass trip to the bahamas or that they've been, but you can't seem to remember where you visited). This is all part of making you seem 'IT'.
I'm not advocating lying, I'm just....fuck I don't know what I'm doing.

How different are you dressed as compared to others in that particular bar or area of bars? What is the age differences from you to them @ the bar(if you were even able to tell visually)?
If you're feeling a tad off, have you looked into changing your style?
Or does the whole bar vibe or pretentious 'cuttthroat' people turn you off and not your 'style'? Do you have an anger/frustration when you feel like you can't fit into this crowd/their atmosphere (different to others @ the bar)?
You mentioned levels and that you were(felt?) awkward, why? Is it intellectually or social status(or their whole personas(people acting like they're better)) that turned you off?

Do you live in a small town? Pick up tinder, pof, OKCupid or some shit. JUST to get you in a vibe of going out w/ a woman and being around a woman.
Maybe visit a strip club before going to the bar? Just to bounce you from one social setting of talking to women(or throwing $ones$ @ them), to another.

I really don't know much about you other than you're a male with a cow as an avatar. What age(since you said you might be too old)?


It's not even that I fear rejection
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Do you frequent that bar much? Are you in the mindset that these women may never see me(you) again (if you were to speak to them and fuck shit up badly)?

I can tell they are not interested and just mock my presence in the first place, so what's the point?
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I doubt you have this ability, or do you mikeshlort ( :cool: )? What vibes('mocking presence') did they give or didn't give you (were they as a result of eye contact)?

Do you have an addictive personality(to the point where it helps conversations) when you DO spark a conversation and GET someone listening? Or do you not talk to others much?

If all fails, try phenibut. It can make one more sociable(but it's also addictive) even when that voice inside your head is telling you no.
 
Mother fucking shit stick. I can't edit my post.

I just pulled this out of my ass, but it can't if shes interested.
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"but it can't hurt"

Seems I didn't pull the rest of the sentence out of my ass and forgot the above. I need to start re-reading my posts/rambles.
 
Whew. You'll be alright Mike. Maybe need to shoot fish in a barrel, bro.

Try some fuckme.com sites?

I keep seeing these [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] over adult entertainment for
Freelifetime fuckbook.

So to help feel better about my looming divorce, I reged to see what's up. I didn't even put a pic, just a funny name including my stats...

Got a dozen buddy requests, PM's asking to see pics, pms askng to start the convo towards a fuck date..., lots of profile views... lots. After 2 days I updated the main blurb "about me" that I'm not ready just yet... and the hits tapered off. I can add pics and becomes available once I'm available, and reply to any pm's then... see what's left and start over. Even whole other sites like that if I have too. I'm not worried.

Maybe one of those will take the whole meeting part out of the picture for ya bro?
 
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Smerc - it was a packed club, 2 floors, loud, fucking full of smoking hot college girls and attractive men who know how to be social. Yeah, I saw a lot of dudes like me "chodes" and I saw even more dudes that were trying and being social but unfortunately just weren't that good looking or something and you could tell whatever girls they were with had them trapped in the friend zone. But I also saw dudes feeling up smoking hot girls, grinding them, making out etc.

I really did not want to go and my pal had the worst negative vibe going all night - which I can't complain about because I'm usually the one doing it. Maybe he was just giving it back to me. But I was just overwhelmed, insecure, felt unattractive etc. A couple girls grabbed my ass quickly as they walked by but they were probably just fucking with me because they could tell how much of a mess I was. I'm thinking maybe I should just pretend I'm drunk and grab girl's asses as I walk by, the worst that can happen is I get kicked out/beat up? I can deal with that. Maybe if I physically get used to touching them it won't seem such an impossible task.

But there was no way I was touching anyone that night (felt the same way last time I went out a few weeks ago). Did not want to touch or be touched, meanwhile the place is packed with smoking hot 19-25 year old female flesh. Meanwhile I think about fucking all day, wake up with huge hard ons, then I go out where there are half naked horny girls and my cock shrivels up the whole time and I can't compute how anyone has sex with a woman. Fuck.
 
No, I'm not interesting, and neither are they. The only thing in common or mutually interesting is their physical appearance and in rare cases they feel the same about me. I've said a million times to pals, "I don't want to talk to them and I am not interesting."

It seems that usually girls only like me once they get to know me a bit. And once I know them a bit I am comfortable and can be myself. In rare cases they are attracted to me off the bat. It's not like I don't get stares and smiles, but not as often as I'd like, especially at the bar.

I imagine if I could get my cock out of stomach and actually be horny at the bar with some decent sized bulge in my pants I would fare better. But it turns to like 3" all night.

It's shitty that I'm on the bad side of my 20s and still dealing with horrible thoughts and awkwardness that most people figure out in their teens. I really think I am fucked.

But I still won't give up. I really, really want to have sex with beautiful women, I feel I deserve it (until I get there). Then after this shit happens, it's like bed-ridden depression the next day. Feel like a loser, failure, irrelevant. Sucks.

I will try again. And I will go by myself next time. Fuck it. I'll try to say "hi" to girls that stand out to me and see if they shit on me or bear with me. I just feel kinda retarded having to practice something that should come natural. It's really a chore and I'm dreading it.
 
smerc;553631 said:
How different are you dressed as compared to others in that particular bar or area of bars? What is the age differences from you to them @ the bar(if you were even able to tell visually)?
This time I had a tight shirt and jeans, so I looked pretty similar. A couple times ago, when I was drunk, I wore jeans and an undershirt. I was on the dance floor and this fairly cute girls came up to me and told me that I "stand out". That was the best experience I've had at the bar since I started going again. Of course, I did not go dance with her, but that's a different story.
I'm 26 and I'd say they are 19-23

If you're feeling a tad off, have you looked into changing your style?

I don't think my style is the problem. I feel I have a nice body and wear form fitting stuff. I felt I looked good, until I looked at everyone else, then I felt I looked not attractive (mostly my face and head). Objectively, I'm about a 7. Most girls would find me funny looking but sometimes the odd girls thinks I'm "hot". The funny thing is, how they look has no relation to how they perceive me. An ugly girl can think I'm fucking revolting whereas a hot girl can think I'm kinda cute. (?)

Or does the whole bar vibe or pretentious 'cuttthroat' people turn you off and not your 'style'? Do you have an anger/frustration when you feel like you can't fit into this crowd/their atmosphere (different to others @ the bar)?

I used to feel anger and frustration when I was in my early 20s because of this, so I'd get drunk as shit and be an asshole to everyone - girls, guys etc. This resulted in me getting kicked out of bars every time. Now, I just feel in awe of how they are able to touch such a pretty girl with ease. I only feel anger towards myself, but I do think the whole situation is stupid. I think the bar is the dumbest thing ever and that people like it so much is retarded, but I can understand when you are beautiful and like yourself that it can be a playground. I just mostly feel intimidated and retarded. Like I feel like everyone knows how retarded I feel so the ignore me or mock me subliminally.

You mentioned levels and that you were(felt?) awkward, why? Is it intellectually or social status(or their whole personas(people acting like they're better)) that turned you off?

I definitely classify myself as a social retard, except when I am "on". When I am "on", I can make a room full of people laugh hard, I can charm girls who find me attractive to begin with, there is no antimocity towards the guys. But I am usually off. I think bad thoughts all day, every day, I even dream about shitty things, so it's hard for me to step away from it and be "on". I try to get there but it feels like it can't be forced.

Do you live in a small town? Pick up tinder, pof, OKCupid or some shit. JUST to get you in a vibe of going out w/ a woman and being around a woman.
Maybe visit a strip club before going to the bar? Just to bounce you from one social setting of talking to women(or throwing $ones$ @ them), to another.

I live in a fairly large town. Probably half a million people in a tri city area. Two universities and a college. Everyone is beautiful and intelligent, and well adjusted.
I feel like if I sign up for something like POF I may as well commit suicide because I feel that I shouldn't have to do that stuff. But I will consider it.

I like the idea of going to a strip club before hand. Maybe that's a decent idea.


I really don't know much about you other than you're a male with a cow as an avatar. What age(since you said you might be too old)?

26

Do you frequent that bar much? Are you in the mindset that these women may never see me(you) again (if you were to speak to them and fuck shit up badly)?

I know I will never see them again. It's not that. It's like I believe they don't want me from when I walk in. It's super charged in there and I can't see myself going on the dance floor and trying to touch a girl or talk to them.

I doubt you have this ability, or do you mikeshlort ( :cool: )? What vibes('mocking presence') did they give or didn't give you (were they as a result of eye contact)?

A couple grabbed my ass quickly as they walked by, couldn't see who it was. I am convinced it was to mock me because it was clear how badly I was doing. My buddy said they do it just to get attention for themselves and are not interested in dancing/talking with me. It makes sense. Other than that, they just ignore me, or some make a face like "look at this goof". It's strange because most women are probably put off by me but then there are the odd ones who find me attractive. Very subjective so I can't tell. Most find me underwhelming and would probably roll their eyes if they saw me trying to approach them.

Do you have an addictive personality(to the point where it helps conversations) when you DO spark a conversation and GET someone listening? Or do you not talk to others much?

I have an addictive personality but when it comes to people I have to be in the zone otherwise I stand there like a fucking retard with my hands in my back pocket, looking around at people and trying to figure out how they do it. I feel like David Suzuki.

If all fails, try phenibut. It can make one more sociable(but it's also addictive) even when that voice inside your head is telling you no.

I'll research what that is.

Thanks for all of this dude.
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LoveHerDeeply;553642 said:
Whew. You'll be alright Mike. Maybe need to shoot fish in a barrel, bro.

Try some fuckme.com sites?

I keep seeing these [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] over adult entertainment for
Freelifetime fuckbook.

So to help feel better about my looming divorce, I reged to see what's up. I didn't even put a pic, just a funny name including my stats...

Got a dozen buddy requests, PM's asking to see pics, pms askng to start the convo towards a fuck date..., lots of profile views... lots. After 2 days I updated the main blurb "about me" that I'm not ready just yet... and the hits tapered off. I can add pics and becomes available once I'm available, and reply to any pm's then... see what's left and start over. Even whole other sites like that if I have too. I'm not worried.

Maybe one of those will take the whole meeting part out of the picture for ya bro?
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I tried a couple of those but I am convinced they are just bots sending the messages because I'd get the same generic messages from different users. Do you know of any that may be real?
 
I'm going to comment much on the above from what you responded back to.

If you're comfortable going to the bars/clubs without your friend, then I would take that route.
He may be a negative vibe or he may not, that's for you to decide. Not sure if you were going to approach women w/ him or not, or your plans were to enter, but disperse when the time came.

Seems you do get hits from time to time(from what you said above), but you didn't mention whether you took advantage of the situation(s).

You don't have to commit suicide due to having to resort to POF :blush:.
Saying 'having to resort', almost seems like it's a last ditch effort and gives the impression that it's kind of LOW to even be involved w/ POF or other affiliated 'dating/match' apps. Do you feel this way?
It's really not all that weird if you think about it. It's all baby steps IMO. Maybe you think you've been out of the loop in your early twenties when it came to dating/women.
Look @ it as baby steps. Picking up where you left off, or didn't start @ to begin with.
They all have their own demographics and POF is probably the worst of them all in terms of women variety. I did mention others and there are others that I didn't.
You may find women to be more dull/boring through the apps rather than locally, since you're not face to face.

I wouldn't join an online "FUCK" site. I doubt anything good could come out of this. Think of the creeps to proper women ratio even if the sites were legit.
Most of these sites scrape photos of women and use a geo location HTML script to say they're local girls, which isn't the case most likely.
Are women desperate enough to join these sites? Sure I bet, but I also bet the types wouldn't be to your liking. Can try it and see though.
If sexual experience is what you want, then look up an escort service. I would much rather you use the shit above I wrote involving POF/ETC, but that's up to you.

26 isn't old or on the verge of being too old. Not sure where you get this.
Have you ever seen a hot 26 year old, a 21 year old, ETC, ETC?
Of course you have, but maybe you didn't know their age. Which would lead to assumptions, which can destroy your perception if you put her in the 'young' category compared to your "old age".
Now think of the age differences where women tend to date, 2(24)-3(23)-4(22)-5(21)-6(20)-7(19)-8(18), ETC.
A lot of women may see someone older as more situated, less games, more serious, ETC.
A lot of women don't see age when they see you, unless you LOOK old. How old do you think you look? Have you been told you look old?
What if the majority of women seen you as a 21 year old(when you're really 26), would this change your perception?
What do you see when you see a girl you're attracted to? Do you see a number or age? Or just youth?
Do you compare your youth to hers? Do you associate her having fun in a bar or club to her as being younger?
Or do you just look @ a crowd of young people and be like, "that's not me"? Maybe that shuts your 'GO' switch off, don't think like that.


You just seem like an over analytical person. Having too many barriers that block your starting goal(just going up and talking to them(women/woman)).
There's nothing that can change this, other than reprogramming your mind.
People can tell you all day to just go up to them and be care free, yada yada this that, be loose, blah blah.
When you get into a social place where this stuff takes place, then it's harder to think this way cause the mental barriers come in.
Maybe you just need social lubrication. If you had some actual good experiences of approaching then you would snap out of it (but that's obvious).
I don't even mean good experiences as getting a fuck or # close, but just being able to chit-chat w/o feeling like a homeless man showing up to a 1%er banquet.

At the end of the day, you could go through many more years of your life thinking this way and never pulling the trigger. What then? 27-28-29-30 years old? How will you perceive your own age then?
Not sure what else to say cause your problem isn't what to do when you actual do(spark the conversation). It's getting to point A.
Maybe look up some infield youtube videos on bar approaching or infield videos in general (day/night game).
I wouldn't fuck with any ebooks, most of them are mindset based (which is your problem, but putting words into visuals is harder).
Instead look @ infield shit and gauge openers(how they open, canned shit?, situational stuff) and the responses they(the infield guys) get from women.
 
Plenty 9' Fish. That's the one I was trying to think of...
Here's a tongue in cheek guide to success there :
http://www.returnofkings.com/5927/how-to-get-laid-on-plenty-of-fish


My friend put me up to reging on that site above to remind me, there's gonna be ways to find women when I'm ready for that. Im not worried anyway.

I figure to just go about doing me. I like a particular charity work that I know ill rub elbows with men n women of my faith. In the course of the day, being myself and telling my story... I'm networking for fix-ups... I already have people trying to intro me and I'm still pre-filing man geez gimmee a lil time here.

Anyway. They say the best way go find compatible mates is to do what you do, go enjoy what you do and see who else is there enjoying that activity too. So that something in common to start talking about...
 
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I'm considering paying a ridiculously hot escort... I think maybe it will boost my confidence if I fuck well, and also get me wanting to have sex with hot women more. Sort of like addicted like a drug.

OR.......

Someone said a pal of his paid hookers before, then he started thinking every time he wanted to get laid he felt he had to pay.
I don't want herpes.

I kind of want a beautiful woman to take my cock. I think it might be helpful. Or it could just as easily be severely damaging to my already fragile emotions when it comes to this sort of thing.

What do you guys think? A good way to get the urge back, the intent, or just a terrible, sad, shameful idea?
 
Be careful, not sure what state you're in, but there are a lot of crackdowns going down. Just need to do your due-diligence beforehand. I'm sure you already know this though.
Would stay away from backpage. Some people her visit massage parlors. At least from what Ive read in a few threads.

It's not a terrible or sad idea if it helps you become more comfortable around women in a face-to-face situation and sexually.
It is a terrible idea if it does the opposite.
Just really depends on how you yourself view it going into the situation.

There are escorts out there that can be more of a consultant type.
Most escorts I'm sure, have a 1-5+min conversation w/ you before you do the deed. Getting to know you(& you to her) sort of thing.

Just thought I would throw that idea out there originally(in my first post), maybe I should had added a disclaimer :blush: .
 
I just jerked off and realized it's a terrible idea. If I get herpes, I'll be dead of an overdose by fall. Don't we live in such an amazing world? We have it so much better than our ancestors. We have cell phones and youtube and automobiles... All they had was clean streams and the ability to have unprotected sex with women.
 
Updates? A couple of girls at my work think I'm a weirdo (I'm notrofl) because I don't talk to them at all really I want to get to know some of them as friends but I work at a huge workplace with about 90% men and you never get a chance to say anything but HI? any chance to have a small conversation is quickly ruined by some douche joining in talking crap and being a smart arse and then results in everyone harassing you and saying "you just want to get in her pants" which is wrong there has been several examples of guys giving some girls nick names towards me for having a small chat to them,it's shot my confidence at work completely I can't even look at the girls now! and outside of work its made me double think meeting women anywere>:(
 
The update is I fuckin give up, fuck it. Lol. I'm not what girls are looking for and there's nothin I can do about it. But that doesn't mean I still can't have a big cock and squat 200lbs
 
Dude. Bars suck for me for meeting women. I am considered to be good looking, well built and socially pleasant to be around. In a bar setting though. Psssshhhh. Forget it. I might as well have an alien head growing out my ass. I dont have that type of game I guess. In other settings though, its on. Moral of my story is I dont waste time and energy trying at bars. I go where I get results, not frustrated.
The easiest place to meet women is at a dog park. Has to be a park that is in a young part of town and I tell you what. Easiest place I can think of. Dont even have a dog with me when I go. Give it a try.
 
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MikeShlort;557856 said:
What does that accomplish? Having to spend half my week's pay for 30 min of dirty sex with a crack addict?
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No, no sex. Doubtfully, if you even wanted it there you might not even get it or have the opportunity. Unless you go to a shady or rank club. I never heard of anything outside of a HJ/BJ happening in a strip club.
Though, some high-end clubs have VIP where they might do ITC acts, but don't go in w/ that type of mindset that you will get anything because it could frustrate you.
You don't seem the type that would even do that anyways, unless you found a girl that is attractive and offered you a BJ for $$$. Hell I don't know.
Not trying to insinuate that you should get sex there (even if you could). Hope "take your dick w/ you" didn't make it seem that way, meant it as a confidence remark.

You don't really even have to spend money other than cover charge and some places have a minimum drink requirement. Might set you back $10-15 total. If you go before certain hours they might have free cover.

I look at it as just getting into the feel for talking w/ women, flowing a conversation, and ETC.

It might not accomplish anything. It just depends on how you define accomplishment.
Some people break out of their comfort zones in strip clubs and build on their conversation game. If you can find a girl that can talk.
You might think the conversations are pointless since the girls are all there for their end result, getting lap dance $$ from you, getting you to buy her a insanely priced drink or taking them to VIP.
 
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MikeShlort;557856 said:
What does that accomplish? Having to spend half my week's pay for 30 min of dirty sex with a crack addict?
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Agreed 2000%
 
I see what you're saying smerc. But they would only be talking to me for $. It doesn't really simulate real life. I'm not going to have hotties coming up to me and pretending I'm interesting in real life. But maybe it will get me accustomed to talking to women. Maybe I could even get some pussy for cheap and not get herpes too if I do well. I haven't masturbated in over 2 weeks so right now I'm stupid enough to try that.
 
It's really similar to striking up a conversation anywhere else, it's just you already know their motives behind why they're talking to you in the first place.
A good stripper will develop a connection w/ you, much like any other conversation w/ a women.
Creating desire, attraction, except they mainly focus on desire (just more urge to even get a dance resulting from deeper convo) since they already know they're attractive to some extent and may even desire them. Unless you're dealing w/ a low self esteem girl or your eyes are bulging out of your head.
You might even get shrugged off since you're not old. Some girls go for older men because they associate them w/ having money and they're in some cases more easier to game or more upfront in what they want.
However, some girls might chit-chat w/ no bullshit involved if it's during a bad/slow night because you're young and they can probably associate themselves more w/ your age.
Some girls are more real than others and some are packed full of lies, sob stories, ETC.
Then there are those that just come up and ask if you want a dance.

What I'm saying is give it a shot. I don't think you're stupid for even trying it.
Most might not agree w/ my opinions, but w/e. Probably my last post in this thread unless something is directed towards me.
 
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Never know bro. You go with a proper bulge showing before they even start... might find one gets interested in having that biggy. They are looking for those big ones too ya know.

But just practicing convo as a goal is a decent plan. You know they want your $ for lapdances and drinks... they are smoking hot, and if you buy a drink she can justify talking with you thru a couple songs. Use that time to chat.

Of course your looking for the ones that don't refer to "my boyfriend"... some single ones say that even tho they got no guy just so guys don't get all stalkerish on them trying to pick them up and take them home. She needs to roam the room to make $ tonight... can't get stuck with one guy. You can fish by saying "I can't believe a hot woman like you doesn't have a jealuos boyfriend somewhere." If you've thrown plenty money and drinks her way... if she wants to take someone home at he end of the shift it might be you. Just can't plan on it but I've seen plenty guys get taken home... especially if she's been rubbing up on that big bulge ...?
 
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MikeShlort;553813 said:
I'm considering paying a ridiculously hot escort... I think maybe it will boost my confidence if I fuck well, and also get me wanting to have sex with hot women more. Sort of like addicted like a drug.

OR.......

Someone said a pal of his paid hookers before, then he started thinking every time he wanted to get laid he felt he had to pay.
I don't want herpes.

I kind of want a beautiful woman to take my cock. I think it might be helpful. Or it could just as easily be severely damaging to my already fragile emotions when it comes to this sort of thing.

What do you guys think? A good way to get the urge back, the intent, or just a terrible, sad, shameful idea?
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Just stop jerking off and step up.
 
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