Looks matter or not?

Do looks matter?

Hey, guys I am real skinny according to my family and I know from personal experience that I am not bless in the looks department. I do consider myself average looking guy after all. When I do go out I try to dress nice and keep good hygein. I don't want to look like a total mess.

Right now my hair is very long and very wild to maintain. I am constantly worried about looking my best when talking to girls. I am planning on getting a haircut sometime this week before I go out again. I can understand hitting the gym and trying to improve yourself, but at the current moment I don't want to start lifting weights just yet.

As a teen I read a lot of pick up literature by the so called PUA's of are time. They all have one thing in common looks matter. From my personal view I have seen average looking guys and unattractive guys with real pretty women. I have also seen good looking guys with muscular bodies with ugly unattractive women. And, of course I have seen unattractive guys with unattractive women and good looking guys with good looking women as well.

So who is right? Do looks really matter? I guess I am trying to prove something in my mind like seek validation. I really don't want a muscular body at this time. I just want to focus on approaching and dating at the current moment.
 
orgasmic19;732189 said:
Do looks matter?

Hey, guys I am real skinny according to my family and I know from personal experience that I am not bless in the looks department. I do consider myself average looking guy after all. When I do go out I try to dress nice and keep good hygein. I don't want to look like a total mess.

Right now my hair is very long and very wild to maintain. I am constantly worried about looking my best when talking to girls. I am planning on getting a haircut sometime this week before I go out again. I can understand hitting the gym and trying to improve yourself, but at the current moment I don't want to start lifting weights just yet.

As a teen I read a lot of pick up literature by the so called PUA's of are time. They all have one thing in common looks matter. From my personal view I have seen average looking guys and unattractive guys with real pretty women. I have also seen good looking guys with muscular bodies with ugly unattractive women. And, of course I have seen unattractive guys with unattractive women and good looking guys with good looking women as well.

So who is right? Do looks really matter? I guess I am trying to prove something in my mind like seek validation. I really don't want a muscular body at this time. I just want to focus on approaching and dating at the current moment.

if your own words don't show that looks don't matter, I don't know what will hahaha. but seriously,looks don't matter at all,its all about personality,depending on the person himself/herself. some are superficial,some aren't. don't worry about anything,just maintain your good hygiene,be a gentlemen,nice and courteous and all will go your way
 
I wouldn't worry so much. People are all over the place on this subject. For some, it's all about looks. For others it's "he's so sweet" (in reality he makes better money than the last asshole and he's ugly so she's not worried he'll cheat on her).

Just get out there man.
 
Thanks guys. Since working in a grocery store I have seen all kinds of guys from average to down right ugly with women.

I remember reading about this one guy and he was always stressing on how you have to have a muscular body and so on. One guy goes so far he has plastic surgery and so much shit done to himself to become a better version of himself. I think these guys are for real, but I do believe they are going overboard. Looks might matter to a certain degree but not that much as they make out. I used to have this mindset as a teen that you have to be real good looking and have a muscular body to get a hot chick. I know this stems from reading too much pick up.

From my personal view as I mentioned I have seen average and unattractive guys with real pretty women. This makes me believe there is someone for everyone despite looks.
 
stillwantmore2;732194 said:
I wouldn't worry so much. People are all over the place on this subject. For some, it's all about looks. For others it's "he's so sweet" (in reality he makes better money than the last asshole and he's ugly so she's not worried he'll cheat on her).

Just get out there man.

aaah the truth nothing but the truth.:cool: lol
 
Dudes have muscles to impress the dudes. Dudes want big dicks to impress the dudes. It's all about being more physically masculine than the next dude.

Sure, men want to use their big dick on hot pussy/big titties. But, when its all said and done, you want your bros to know you have a big dick. It's a kind of competition between men that we don't like to admit to.

^ That's not to say that it's not arousing for a big-dicked/muscle dude to turn on the ladies. But the sole motivation...is, yes, to impress other males (which, in turn, give you more "mating rights" with the hot ladies.

If you had a big hang like Lex Steele at the urinal, you'd want all the dude to see it to make them jealous. I know how dudes think.
 
Iceman338;732213 said:
Dudes have muscles to impress the dudes. Dudes want big dicks to impress the dudes. It's all about being more physically masculine than the next dude.

Sure, men want to use their big dick on hot pussy/big titties. But, when its all said and done, you want your bros to know you have a big dick. It's a kind of competition between men that we don't like to admit to.

^ That's not to say that it's not arousing for a big-dicked/muscle dude to turn on the ladies. But the sole motivation...is, yes, to impress other males (which, in turn, give you more "mating rights" with the hot ladies.

If you had a big hang like Lex Steele at the urinal, you'd want all the dude to see it to make them jealous. I know how dudes think.

Its a basic instict id say,the bigger, the stronger,the smarter too,One of the reasons we found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] was because we wanted to be bigger IMO,didnt have in mind impressing other guys,i just wanted to feel better, having an average PENIS was torturing my mind and destroying my self steem.

Things are better down here but im not satisfied yet,still want to get thicker and longer..
 
PE is all about making the most of our sexuality but the Brotherhood is all about making the most of the entire male form, body, mind and soul! The original reasons we come hear are usually clouded by unfounded insecurities and some real ones. Once this fog clears we start to see ourselves for what we truly are and where we need to do to correct ourselves. A Brother always leaves the Brotherhood more of a man than when he arrived.
 
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LONGERDICK7+;732791 said:
yep quite vulgar if its being done in the middle of the street lol

You pee in the street in the USA you can get in trouble! Indecent exposure :)
 
All I can say is that if you think you attract a girl by your looks in a way that she approaches you, you might be wrong.

Muscles are fine. They stare at them all the time and write little stories in the highschool graduation magazine when they never really interacted with you. On the other hand they are scared by muscles. In my environment muscles are not very common and I don't see muscular guys around girls. Bodybuilder are often introverts which causes some trouble in the dating area.

They also look at your bulge in the jogging pants when I am walking down the stairs and they are approaching from downstairs. Their face turns into a shocked state.

If you are a man you got to be the doer speaking in general terms. When you are the doer you don't need looks anymore. Personally I think that guys who sympathize with the idea that if they look good enough girls will approach them spend the most time in improving their looks.
 
Is ok to look fine if a man got the looks,but being obsessed by his appearence can be boring and a waste of time imo.

Girls looking at the bulge lol yep they do haha
 
Attraction can come in many ways and it is very hard to tell. I mean think of the things that attract you, do you think a woman would have any idea of what those might be? Just like you she would be guessing. One girl I dated thought dandruff was attractive! :) and since I had a dry scalp she loved me. Another girl found me attractive because of the way I think over any physical attribute. My first girl thought my poverty was attractive! It is a very strange place to guess. I find women with buck teeth with a space between their two front teeth! I find women who have big noses attractive. I bet some of the things I love in a woman are the very thing she hates. Projection and discernment usually fall flat in the face of reality.
 
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