Just getting something off my chest...

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Texan

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KiTTie8695 said:
You didn't contribute anything stupid to this thread but I'm gonna lock it if people keep it up. So knock it off, Provider, you might not like my looks or me in general, whatever, but the other guys who posted here DO and they would fucking hate it if I had to close the thread. So thanks for the comments to my Brittney but don't say shit that's uncalled for cus your adittude won't be tolerated.
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I felt it needed to be said for awhile. I've found over the years that if something is really bothering a person, they're probably not alone- or maybe I am, but that's cool too.

This is my first post here in about 4 months or so. The BS drama here has just made me lose a lot of my interest in this place. DLD had a good thing going, but I think making Kittie a mod was one of the worst decisions ever. I get the whole "female perspective" thing, but come on- she's 19. How much perspective can she have on men's issues. The "Queen of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]" under her name isn't funny to me because it's clear that it's really how she feels. Threats to lock threads because she doesn't like the comments one guy makes (a guy who's been here a lot longer than her) are dumb. There's been drama upon drama since she became a mod. Threatening to ban people who she finds offensive, only to realize she completely misunderstood what the person was saying. Her whole past abusive relationship thing- which really makes me question why a little girl with obvious emotional issues should be a mod for a grown men's Penis Enlargement forum. Bear in mind a lot of us have our own penis related issues, and that is what brought us here. Next we had the whole nude/sex pics of Sam and Zack, which set her off on another emotional rollercoaster until the pics were pulled. Shit I can't even remember what all came after that.

Personally, I think it was a slap in Zack's face to make her a mod over him. But whatever, he seemed to take in stride. Anyway, I don't dislike Sam, she just doesn't haven't any business being a mod in my opinion, and the power trip is shit. Obviously this is D's site, and he can pick whomever he chooses to mod it, but I'm a grown man, and I'm not going to put my heart into this place only to have my posts censored by some emotionally fragile teenage chick who, IMO, needs to sort out her own problems before she starts jumps into male physical issues and the whole male penis-psyche matter.

The thing is, folks, I have lost interest in this site largely because of her, and if her BS has disallusioned me, how many others do you think may have just quit coming here but not came back and told us why? I'm sure this thread will definitely get locked now- we wouldn't want anybody to speak out against the queen, but it's all cool.
 
[P]okey[B]ear said:
I think she's a good admin. She keeps the forum from getting to flaming
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With all due respect, it doesn't look like you've been here all that long. But that's great, I'm glad- for both the guys here and DLD- that she doesn't bother everyone like she does me.
 
Texan said:
I'm sure this thread will definitely get locked now- we wouldn't want anybody to speak out against the queen, but it's all cool.
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It isn't getting locked.

I personally don't pay attention to a lot of threads here that don't interest me, such as the hotties of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] thread, drama threads, etc. I don't like forum drama because it stresses me out, and the minute a forum affects my personal life is the minute I change things. So, I don't notice a lot of the drama that goes on here until it gets called out. My point is, if any member here sees any mod, whether it's Kittie, me, RED, whoever, stepping out of their boundaries, they need to let the other mods know about it.

The truth is, most of the mods don't read every post here, so we tend to miss things unless someone notifies us of it. I think a lot of members don't realize that. If something needs to be done, whether it's an underage poster, a troll, a mod stepping out of line, or a spammer, click the Notify button and we'll look into it immediately. Otherwise, it may go unchecked for quite a while, like the adult entertainment that the troll posted in samzman's pic thread recently.

I'd hate for us to completely lose a good member like you Texan. Hopefully we can keep you around a while.
 
I don't post here very often but I do read the threads and I happen to agree with most of what TEXAN and others have brought up.

I try not to allow the drama that usually surrounds her to bother me ,although sometimes I find it hard to restrain myself from posting my opinion.

Hats off to you TEXAN for saying what I am and other may be thinking
 
Alright well listen, I re-read everything and I'm not locking the thread, alright? Call me a flamer, whatever, because I'm the girl MOD in the forum. Sorry I lost my temper and went off the hook, we all do it but that's no real excuse I guess. I'm just sorry I did it, and I'll keep my mouth shut unless need be where we have to kick some real ass.

Lastly, I'm not the one who made up the name Queen of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

Thanks.
 
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Kittie can you explain why a young girl like you is on a pe forum,i no your mans a member but apart from that what do you get from being a member/mod on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Mos[/words],there are a multitude of forums out there that women would want to chose so what made you want to join a pe site?
 
You know I'd rather not discuss this on the site anymore as it's going to cause more flaming than ever and everyone's just going to keep on attacking me. If you want to talk about it then IM me or something view my contact info or just get over it and have a nice day. It's just a forum, why are you so concerned as to why I'm here in the first place? I apologized for what I did and you still don't accept it. Don't like it then ignore me.
 
I think it basically comes down to kittie separating her mod status when she has an arguement.
I have no problem with her being a mod, even though she has no vested interest in the subject matter in question, ie pe. You dont have to have enlarged your penis to be a good mod of a forums, pe or otherwise.

Most of the problems reguarding kittie seems to stem from her getting into an arguement then inorder to get the last laugh so to speak, she will use her mod powers to reinforce her arguement.
Just my opinion, and its sad to see that people are leaving because of friction with other people. Just ignore them, be the bigger man, or woman in this case.
 
I think CYC hit the nail on the head. I agree with Texan as it is an issue. There are members who have been here guite a while and have not been moded, but a female gets moded because she can give "perspective". Sure, I don't buy that but ok. I guess it's just one of those things that doesn't even need to be considered when it comes to Penis Enlargement as it is my penis and I will do to it what I choose to. Having a woman's perspective on it isn't going to change anything about Penis Enlargement or why I Penis Enlargement. It didn't effect me becoming a member here, nor will it effect the goals I have set for myself.

In my opinion a MOD should be someone who can contribute to the material of the forum from experience, not from someone who doesn't know anything about the subject in question. For instance I would not be the MOD for the anime forum that my roommate was a MOD for because I wouldn't understand the subject matter.
 
wow, Texan. I couldn't have said it any better myself. We have some very good moderators, here. They love Penis Enlargement and contribute to the community with tips and experience. They speak with tact and choose their words carefully.

Then we have Kittie. An unstable teenager who posts naked pictures of herself on a man's internet forum and expects to get 100% good feedback. I doubt she even knows much about Penis Enlargement. Not really her fault, she doesn't have a dick. But what does she really contribute then? Drama? Slutty comments?

I'd love to have girls on here that are genuinely interested in Penis Enlargement. It seems the only ones we get are self-interested morons. You come here to post pictures of yourself to boost your ego? no thank you...
 
I agree with Texan 100% on this matter. I'm not a newbie to this site, I originally started posting under the username "mogli" around spring of 04'. Since that time I have seen many instances of Kittie baiting members here and instigating shit with them, all the time tauting her mod status and her will to use it. She loves to jump the gun and replies in a negative manner with out even taking the time to realize what the member she chose to respond to actually meant. This has happened to me recently in the Dysfunctional Cafe' section under the thread "cop admits to repeatedly fucking teenage girl". Everybody makes mistakes including myself. There is a difference between that and a distinct history or pattern of negative behavior. Such is the case with Kittie. I have absolutely no problem with the fact that she is female and not only a member here but a mod as well. Truth be told I wish there were more women members on this forum. Notice I used the term "women" not "girls". In my opinion Kittie conducts herself as a immature little girl most the time. If I want a female's perspective here I want it to be a mature one. If she happens to read my post on this thread she'll most likely get all bent out of shape which is of no concern to me. She needs to be responsible for her behavior and be held accountable for it, just like the rest of us.
 
Bent out of shape? Well thanks for trying predict the future upon my actions but I'm smiling throughout your entire post, nobody :)
 
KiTTie8695 said:
Bent out of shape? Well thanks for trying predict the future upon my actions but I'm smiling throughout your entire post, nobody :)
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According to that post, I just did. You say you have already apologized to the other members here, but it was obviously half-hearted at best. Instead of coming to grips with your problem you choose to lash out at those who simply pointed it out. Do you really think that WE are all delusional or do you think there is a chance that YOU may be completely wrong about all this? You were not targeted by members of this forum at random, you brought this all upon yourself. You may not care but I think Provider was rude to post what he did. He has said other things on this forum that have rubbed me wrong as well but at the end of the day he is entitled to his opinion. You should have taken the higher ground instead of choosing to attempt locking the thread. Why don't you simply prove us all wrong and stop acting in the manner that brought this all on you to begin with? You may think I have something personal against you. I don't. I simply don't appreciate the negativity that you have brought to this forum and it's members.
 
I already said it but kitty always sticks up for me whenever someone needs to and she steps in when things get out of control. If she made one mistake BIG FUCKING DEAL she's a god damn human. Let it go and be friends again.
 
Thanks Pokey, much appreciated.

I just don't see why others can't get off it with the whole deal, this was almost over a week ago and you're still all over my shit. I'm being the bigger person here, you're just trying to feed the fire. :)
 
Kittie the issue is not who is feeding the fire, but your pattern of behavior on the forum. Your misuse of your MOD status and your general reactions to people's posts that may not agree with your own opinons or thoughts on a certain matter. I think you do a fine job in general but these instances of dramatics do put you in an unflattering light and make you appear to be unreasonable and immature. YOU can remedy this by being slower to act/post and think things through a bit before you attack or badger a member with threats of locking a thread. That's really it on the whole as far as I can tell. Am I wrong?
 
I don't know if you're wrong, I just think you guys are making a bigger deal than what it is seeing how it's an online forum.
 
KiTTie8695 said:
I don't know if you're wrong, I just think you guys are making a bigger deal than what it is seeing how it's an online forum.
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Well that's quite a cop out. You are quick to fly off the hook at people on this "mere" online forum but when you get called out it doesn't matter?
 
[P]okey[B]ear said:
I already said it but kitty always sticks up for me whenever someone needs to and she steps in when things get out of control. If she made one mistake BIG FUCKING DEAL she's a god damn human. Let it go and be friends again.
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No offense man, but if you had been here for a while you would know that this is by no means one isolated incident. This has happened over and over again. To her credit she came to my defense as well in the same thread I mentioned, but that doesn't discount her overall behavior. In this thread she she continues to downplay her guilt in all this so it is rather obvious that she feels that those members who have spoken against her are the ones with the problem and not herself. The power of denial.
 
You guys will be sorry when I'm gone.
I might as well leave seeing how this site isn't even about Penis Enlargement anymore, from the looks of it it's more like matters of bashing kittie.

Thanks a lot for ruining some fun times here. :)

one.
 
look I have been here I joined a while ago and I got "BANNED" by kittie but I Forgave her and now we get along. I'm not trying to cop out of her guilt if there is any true I don't know the whole story but I know since i've joined I haven't seen her be mean and you guys need to forgive her. Give her another chance. Plus it's an online forum taking it seriously you can hurt yourself. Stay devoted to Penis Enlargement and remember it's just a forum and it's easy to type things when your not face to face with em.
 
I say everybody drop this and get back to Penis Enlargement related threads.

The point has been made and the message has been received. There was also an apology. I would let it go now, at least until Kittie gives you a new reason for this. I think that it won't happen soon, or maybe even not at all again.

In any case, we are all humans and entitled to make mistakes. Let's just forget about it at least for a while, this thread is going in circles now.

And for the record, I don't want Kittie to go. I like her and, plus she's the only girl that sticks around.
 
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The point was given, not taken by all the members, and it won't happen because guess who's leaving? I'm doing it for a few reasons that I don't feel like discussing any further think what you want, because ya guys don't know me, so go ahead make accusations and assumptions of why I'm leaving because you don't know and wanna seem smart. So whatever, I'd hate to leave the friends behind I made here but I'm on my three different messengers, get my names from someone, I don't care, I'm just sick of this place being a battle for me every time I come here.

But thanxx to the guys that cared or still do, it means a lot that I actually got some friends outta the deal here, I just can't do it anymore.
 
If anyone has a complaint with how [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is run or if a mod is not acting in a respectful manner and doing what they should than report it to dld and lightning, either via pm or e-mail and also in the top right of the posts on every thread along the red bar above the members name you will see the post number i.e this is post #34 and next to that scales and a red triangle with a black line running through it. To report a thread CLICK THE TRIANGLE and fill in the details. Thats how you should deal with complaints and use your anger assertively instead of makeing threads like this which cause more drama and make the site more childish. If ANYONE has a problem with a post that someone has commented in than PLEASE report it and dont use the anger negatively and make threads and get others stirred up into a frenzy but I can understand why the thread was made and I aint saying members are wrong for doing that but if you have a problem like I said we have a REPORT POST tab, so please use it and issues like this can be dealt with quick and resolved with speed instead of brewing.

Regards
 
KiTTie8695 said:
The point was given, not taken by all the members, and it won't happen because guess who's leaving? I'm doing it for a few reasons that I don't feel like discussing any further think what you want, because ya guys don't know me, so go ahead make accusations and assumptions of why I'm leaving because you don't know and wanna seem smart. So whatever, I'd hate to leave the friends behind I made here but I'm on my three different messengers, get my names from someone, I don't care, I'm just sick of this place being a battle for me every time I come here.

But thanxx to the guys that cared or still do, it means a lot that I actually got some friends outta the deal here, I just can't do it anymore.
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
 
goddamnit guys if she appologized she appologized. she was offended and it seems like people keep pushin it and pushin it. personally if i was dogged as much as kittie i wouldn't have appologized at all. so her sayin sorry is somethin. someone else on here i think it was big sack called her a moron....no sack..she is not a moron. you know her through a forum, you only know her by her posts and her reactions to people flaming on her.
personally, if it's kittie or not, this forum went to fuckin hell over the last half year or so. it's like people put other people down. and it's not all kittie believe it or not ladies and gentlemen. there was things with A.C., gandolf..just a couple of names that came to my mind in a matter of one second. there has been drama all over the place between male members with other male members, and god help a poor girl member on here they are like prime for the pickings. either they're called egotistical, slutty, stupid, or they're "hot". but anyone above a size 2 waist is suddenly a fat ass or not good enough. SO. this whole forum got fucked. i'm supprized we see newbies around every now and again. so much negative shit, we even go against the FOUNDER OF THE SITE and then expect this site to grow. this thread isn't all about kittie, it's another person that the site is pointing the finger at to side track us from the main problem..we need to lighten up! i have been avoiding this forum becauseof the simple fact that there are critical eyes every other thread, it's like no one takes the word of anyone else.

we got some of the main flamers off the site, or they just don't come around anymore. which is good. however this is gettin way out of hand. i used to like to come to this forum and talk and chat with guys and get inspired getting new exercises. even talk to the very few girls that were on here to get opinions and look at the sexy jen pic forum and porno paradice. it was fun! but then almost out of nowhere there was this explosion of accusations to everyone else and it just ruined this damn forum. to me i think it's beyond saving unless all of us just stop this bullshit and concider other peoples feelings!! no you don't have to be a kiss ass, but if you don't like what one member is postin up (especially photos) then SKIP THE THREAD and DON'T ANSWER. it's that SIMPLE. i was avoiding this thread myself however i just decided to look into it and i'm ashamed about how this thread went. it's a reflection of how bullshit this forum got. i have seen many many pictures of members on this forum and saw their dicks, and everyone else was saying "hey good job!" or "looks huge!" and i'm really thinkin........"well shit no it's not" but then god help me...i say "hey good job man keep up the good work! looking good so far!" if i told the guy what i really thought "well i don't see anything huge there"...then i might hurt the guy. however after that original comment was made, i'm starting to think that i should start saying that and just "be honest", because i guess that's the excuse that everyone is hiding behind to be mean right? in the other thread it was said "well i only see one hottie" then that's the same fuckin thing! i don't get it how people don't see that. just because she's a girl doesn' t mean that the same rules don't apply!

and she does give a shit about pe. she's there with ME 100% and that is why she came on this forum in the first place was to be there to see what was going on and to support me with comments of inspiration. she has helped me mentally and physically to make the gains that i have, so don't give that bullshit about her not being concerned about pe. i remember guys BEGGING to see her pics when they found out that she was a female member, and her and i DID post because people wanted to see. then afterwards people kept asking and asking and when she said that she didn't wanna post anymore, then everyone seemed to flip out on her and said that she was a drama queen. members were iming her requesting pics from the first fuckin im that she recieved, and she got tired of it. so she wanted to stop posting. however members kept begging so we gave in again with some new fresh pics, and even a set with just her. and everyone liked. until they kept askin and askin again and she gave up. then she became a mod, and didn't want to have those pics up again. people were bitchin once again, and she started posting up. then no it's happening all over again. except she posted a series up WITH HER FRIEND britney and then everyone flipped out.
i want to encourage members to post up on here..and i think we alll should. newbies both male AND female. so goddamnit guys give the ladies a break, because there are members on this site biting their tongues at seriously lettingyou know what they REALLY think about your size. and give you that bit of encouragement that you need. so lets play nice, let's encourage, and if you aint got nothing good to say don't say anything at all.
 
Samzman,

I see a few differences in members posting pictures of their dicks and Kitties' photo pictorials. This website is called "Penis Enlargement Forums...". Meaning this is a place where men come to learn, discuss, and show things related to natural penis enlargement. We may not always think a member has an impressive penis, but usually it's an improvement. You, yourself, once had a very average penis. Kittie, though, is posting pictures of herself, which has absolutely nothing to do with Penis Enlargement. Not only that, but she titled the last set "Hotties of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]". No member here with a 6x5 dick is posting pics in the Picture Proof section with a title of "My Massive Cock". If he did, he would get a quick reality check. This is my analogy on the backlash against Kittie. She's needlessly posting pics of herself on a Penis Enlargement forum and declaring herself a hottie.

I don't doubt many members harrassed her about showing pics on this site. Honestly, that's the norm for every single forum on the net anywhere. That's not an excuse. I don't want to see her pics, especially not in the main Penis Enlargement forum. Sure, I could just ignore it, but I feel it takes away from the ligitimacy of this site by including it. How can a skeptic take natural Penis Enlargement seriously if he sees an entire forum come to a screeching halt over some average looking girls' semi-nude pics?

As I said before, besides posting these pics, she rarely if ever actually talks about Penis Enlargement. Of her 1200 posts, I would be shocked if more than 50 discussed Penis Enlargement. She may talk about it with you, supporting you, and I hope she does. I only know her through the forum, as you mentioned, so that's what I'm judging her on. As a moderator she should be concerned with helping members in their routines, giving what advice she can, and filling us in on the female's perspective. Instead she's using her time taking pictures of herself and hoping for anyone to say she's hot and flaming anyone who disagrees.
 
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I hope we've got this all cleared up now and can successfully
return bigsack to --only-- staring at other men's cocks ......

Wow, the world is such a better place now ....

Wheeeeeeeee ....... !

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I just took the time and actually read through the drama.

First, Kittie was always a pretty sensitive girl and sometimes took things the wrong way. I know a few of you have had your disputes with her. Otherwise, I think she was a good mod and I'm a little sad to see her go. From reading the mod forums, I can tell you she put an effort into keeping things in order around here.

Second, some of you guys were a little hard on her and certainly provoked her. To condemn her for posting the thread with the term "hotties" in the title is ridiculous. She was by far the most active female here, long before becoming a mod. If you're one of the only women within a community, one could consider you a "hottie" by default if nothing else. Clearly it was meant just to be a fun post. You may have the right to express the opinions expressed, but it doesn't mean it was wise to do so. The group of us men could collectively be at a gathering with say about 10 girls and if we started dogging on some of them, we would soon be viewed as assholes by all of them. Women expect to be treated a little better than some of the remarks that were made. I think some of the guys would have been wise to keep their opinions to themselves and just knowing how most women react to such remarks about their appearance, no one could possibly have expected her to be anything but pissed off.
 
penguins fan wrote;

"The group of us men could collectively be at a gathering with say about 10 girls and if we started dogging on some of them, we would soon be viewed as assholes by all of them. Women expect to be treated a little better than some of the remarks that were made. I think some of the guys would have been wise to keep their opinions to themselves and just knowing how most women react to such remarks about their appearance, no one could possibly have expected her to be anything but pissed off."

I find that offensive and sexist mate.
I dont care if she had a dick or not, she was offensive and arguementative, traits that are not begetting a mod.
Lets not forget that this "gathering of men" is gathered for penis enlargement. If for whatever reason she wanted to be a part of that, fine. But we dont have to put up with her BS just because women "deserve to be treated a little better" They want equal rights, they got erm, i will treat her like a Penis EnlargementRSON that i think was an absolute prat. Woman or not.
 
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