Jackxxx UltraSound Therapy Log

Thats crazy Jack! Keep it going man i remember seeing your progression a while ago with the TP roll test LOL good job! What is your girth like as of now, does it increase as your length increases? Also i replied to your question on my post about BPEL to BPFSL, didn't get a response. I dont know if your getting my notifications or tags.

Funny you mention my TP roll test, I remember that being back in 2018-2019. At that time, I was still stuck on a dead end. I was trying, wrongly, stretching with supernatural forces in an attempt to grow my BPFSL. Did not work. I was more than convinced from years before that I had reached a total dead end, a limiting factor called septum. It was a little after that that I found these guys experimenting an approach with US, and since then Started carefully following their experiments and progress, until the evidence was enough to carbon copy what they did. And it worked.

I did not get your notification bro. I will check it out.
 
Funny you mention my TP roll test, I remember that being back in 2018-2019. At that time, I was still stuck on a dead end. I was trying, wrongly, stretching with supernatural forces in an attempt to grow my BPFSL. Did not work. I was more than convinced from years before that I had reached a total dead end, a limiting factor called septum. It was a little after that that I found these guys experimenting an approach with US, and since then Started carefully following their experiments and progress, until the evidence was enough to carbon copy what they did. And it worked.

I did not get your notification bro. I will check it out.
Congrats Jackxxx for your achievement! Anyway I'm curious too If you've planned to work on your girth and if so how will you do it...
 
Funny you mention my TP roll test, I remember that being back in 2018-2019. At that time, I was still stuck on a dead end. I was trying, wrongly, stretching with supernatural forces in an attempt to grow my BPFSL. Did not work. I was more than convinced from years before that I had reached a total dead end, a limiting factor called septum. It was a little after that that I found these guys experimenting an approach with US, and since then Started carefully following their experiments and progress, until the evidence was enough to carbon copy what they did. And it worked.

I did not get your notification bro. I will check it out.
Yes i remember bro! i would read your post and threads where you would say that you really felt like you reached your maximum gains. That you couldn't grow anymore, im so glad that you crushed your early mindset and never gave up! and succeeded at more gains! That makes me hopeful that i can do that same.

Whats your girth like these days, also does that balloon theory hold true? When we do length solely, does it affect our girth also?

And lastly, hopefully someone can fix that notification problem, thanks in advanced for helping when you can Jack, i believe with the right guidance i will grow surely to 9 by 6. Or at-least the right/ best damn routine for length for Vets.
 
Starting water trials.

As proposed before, as an experimental approach to develop BPEL after increasing BPFSL through US method, the idea consist in taking advantage of the therapeutic benefits of temperature. As we have proven through a variety of setups based on stress relaxation, constant tension and UltraSound, there is a remarkable response from tissues when the correct temperature is applied under tension. Based on previous anecdotal evidence and existing literature in regard to tissue remodeling after long term exposure to Prostaglandin E1, this experiment will induce an erection while inside the pumping tube with water heated at 42 degrees under 5hg of vacuum for a period of time still pending to determine.

Abstract

Purpose: To assess wether the use of an IR lamp can efficiently keep the water temperature inside pumping tube at steady therapeutic levels of 40-42 degrees celsius.

Materials and Methods: The internal water temperature in the tube was monitored by a “perfect prime” device with a thermocouple installed inside the tube. The tube was completely filled with water heated at +-45 degrees celsius. The tube was placed upside down (valve down, opening up) to rest for water to cool down to 42 degrees. Cooldown was recorded at a loss of 0.1 degree celsius every +-28 seconds. The opening was sealed with “Glad cling wrap” to hold the thermocouple and delay heat loss. The IR used is a generic red lamp. It was placed initially at around 10 inches of distance from the tube which caused the temperature to slowly increase approximately 0.1 degrees celsius every 35-40 seconds. The distance between the lamp and the tube was increased in increments of 1 inch while monitoring temperature inside the tube.

Results: At a distance of 17.5 inches (44.45cm) the Infrared lamp successfully kept the temperature at 42 degrees celsius for a recorded time of 5 minutes. Initially, while the IR lamp was place at the first position, temperature kept increasing while retracting by 1 inch. This is due to temperature rise of surrounding areas around the tube. In the case of real use with the penis, a similar phenomenon will occur as the surrounding tissues of the body warm up and contribute to the environment providing the heat. Ultimately, the distance of 17 inches was optimal to keep the water at the therapeutic target.

Conclusions: The use of an IR lamp to keep water temperature inside the pumping tube offers an excellent option since the distance needed in this first trial is perfectly comfortable for use. One concern was having the need to keep the lamp too close to the body, or simply ineffective at all to keep the water warm. Now, a different situation will be on the next trial with a penis inside, since the penis itself will provide a “cooling” effect on the water due to blood circulating at an average of 37 degrees celsius.

Next trial will be an assessment of temperature control with a penis inside the tube and water at 42 degrees celsius.
 
Great, thank you! I've been using basically an equal approach where the only different thing is that I'm using an IR heat pad at 45° degrees instead of a lamp. The only thing is after passing the treshold of 45minutes of constant pumping, even at a low pressure and a sleeve on, edema starts to kick in pretty badly... how are you gonna deal with it? We can obviously take the tube off and remove the edema with some manual exerecises but we're gonna lose the temp and the expansion....
 
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Great, thank you! I've been using basically an equal approach where the only different thing is that I'm using an IR heat pad at 45° degrees instead of a lamp. The only thing is after passing the treshold of 40minutes of constant pumping, even at a low pressure and a sleeve on, edema starts to kick in pretty badly... how are you gonna deal with it? We can obviously take the tube off and remove the edema with some manual exerecises but we're gonna lose the temp and the expansion....
Starting water trials.

As proposed before, as an experimental approach to develop BPEL after increasing BPFSL through US method, the idea consist in taking advantage of the therapeutic benefits of temperature. As we have proven through a variety of setups based on stress relaxation, constant tension and UltraSound, there is a remarkable response from tissues when the correct temperature is applied under tension. Based on previous anecdotal evidence and existing literature in regard to tissue remodeling after long term exposure to Prostaglandin E1, this experiment will induce an erection while inside the pumping tube with water heated at 42 degrees under 5hg of vacuum for a period of time still pending to determine.

Abstract

Purpose: To assess wether the use of an IR lamp can efficiently keep the water temperature inside pumping tube at steady therapeutic levels of 40-42 degrees celsius.

Materials and Methods: The internal water temperature in the tube was monitored by a “perfect prime” device with a thermocouple installed inside the tube. The tube was completely filled with water heated at +-45 degrees celsius. The tube was placed upside down (valve down, opening up) to rest for water to cool down to 42 degrees. Cooldown was recorded at a loss of 0.1 degree celsius every +-28 seconds. The opening was sealed with “Glad cling wrap” to hold the thermocouple and delay heat loss. The IR used is a generic red lamp. It was placed initially at around 10 inches of distance from the tube which caused the temperature to slowly increase approximately 0.1 degrees celsius every 35-40 seconds. The distance between the lamp and the tube was increased in increments of 1 inch while monitoring temperature inside the tube.

Results: At a distance of 17.5 inches (44.45cm) the Infrared lamp successfully kept the temperature at 42 degrees celsius for a recorded time of 5 minutes. Initially, while the IR lamp was place at the first position, temperature kept increasing while retracting by 1 inch. This is due to temperature rise of surrounding areas around the tube. In the case of real use with the penis, a similar phenomenon will occur as the surrounding tissues of the body warm up and contribute to the environment providing the heat. Ultimately, the distance of 17 inches was optimal to keep the water at the therapeutic target.

Conclusions: The use of an IR lamp to keep water temperature inside the pumping tube offers an excellent option since the distance needed in this first trial is perfectly comfortable for use. One concern was having the need to keep the lamp too close to the body, or simply ineffective at all to keep the water warm. Now, a different situation will be on the next trial with a penis inside, since the penis itself will provide a “cooling” effect on the water due to blood circulating at an average of 37 degrees celsius.

Next trial will be an assessment of temperature control with a penis inside the tube and water at 42 degrees celsius.
Hi Jackxx

so if this is working do you think it would work on gains for BPEL without US?
 
A quick update.

I have succeeded in keeping the target goal of 25.4cm of BPFSL. Which equals 10 inches in length. This marks the end of Period number 2 with success, marking a 1.4cm of net gain in BPFSL. This is 3.4cm combined between Period 1 and Period 2, 1.33” in BPFSL which is absolutely remarkable, and the future looks very promising.

Although I have very little time lately due to businesses, I will focus now on BPEL until the time comes for Period 3, with the hopes that this bridge and experimentation lead to successful BPEL gains. Current BPEL stays at 23.5cm which equals 9.25”. The ideal scenario would be to close the gap and bring BPEL up to 10 inches before putting full power towards the foot or 12 inches.
This is Awesome!
 
Great, thank you! I've been using basically an equal approach where the only different thing is that I'm using an IR heat pad at 45° degrees instead of a lamp. The only thing is after passing the treshold of 45minutes of constant pumping, even at a low pressure and a sleeve on, edema starts to kick in pretty badly... how are you gonna deal with it? We can obviously take the tube off and remove the edema with some manual exerecises but we're gonna lose the temp and the expansion....

How much pressure?
 
Following with water trials.

Today the intention was to repeat the same exercise from yesterday, but this time with a penis inside the tube.

The result was a failure.

I never did water pumping before and it turned out to be a challenge. You definitely need to play with fluids, vacuum and air in order to accomplish this. Of course my first attempt was just to stick my penis in horizontally, but the water quickly filled the trap and up to the pump.
After a few minutes of playing, resetting, repeating, I was able to manage it and develop a process to stick the penis in, keep the pressure agains the pubic bone, lay down in the bed and then pump so 98% of what comes out of the tube is the air gap left in the tube.
Needless to say, I had no opportunity to measure temperature. But, I managed to finally get a vacuum, with the thermocouple running inside the tube.

Tomorrow I will attempt to repeat the process, this time with everything I need next to the bed in order to continue with the experiment.

P.S.: For this step of experimentation, there is no erection induced other than the natural erection created by the vacuum. The purpose of this trial is to assess temperature management with the penis inside the tube.

On a different note, being this the first time with warm water, the expansion was unbelievable. It was definitely more girth than length expansion, but a totally different form of expansion compared to air pumping. The concept of the induced erection plus the water pumping with therapeutic temperature is attractive.
 
Hi Jackxx

so if this is working do you think it would work on gains for BPEL without US?
How much pressure?
Yesterday session: 45minutes constant pumping with IR heat pad at 45° C and my penis well wrapped with a penis wrap. Pressure started at 5hg and very slowly increased to 8hg.
Results: No fluid retention at all; Great expansion in both BPEL and girth.
The combo of therapeutic heat and penis wrap is keeping edema away. Great!
 
Following with water trials.

Today the intention was to repeat the same exercise from yesterday, but this time with a penis inside the tube.

The result was a failure.

I never did water pumping before and it turned out to be a challenge. You definitely need to play with fluids, vacuum and air in order to accomplish this. Of course my first attempt was just to stick my penis in horizontally, but the water quickly filled the trap and up to the pump.
After a few minutes of playing, resetting, repeating, I was able to manage it and develop a process to stick the penis in, keep the pressure agains the pubic bone, lay down in the bed and then pump so 98% of what comes out of the tube is the air gap left in the tube.
Needless to say, I had no opportunity to measure temperature. But, I managed to finally get a vacuum, with the thermocouple running inside the tube.

Tomorrow I will attempt to repeat the process, this time with everything I need next to the bed in order to continue with the experiment.

P.S.: For this step of experimentation, there is no erection induced other than the natural erection created by the vacuum. The purpose of this trial is to assess temperature management with the penis inside the tube.

On a different note, being this the first time with warm water, the expansion was unbelievable. It was definitely more girth than length expansion, but a totally different form of expansion compared to air pumping. The concept of the induced erection plus the water pumping with therapeutic temperature is attractive.
Do you think you saw a greater expansion because of the water being warm or just because water pumping produce better results? Because i've tried both air and water pumping many times but even if in the tube with water the expansion seems bigger, when I take it off I haven't noticed any difference; therefore my answer was that the heat is the real difference... What do you think Jack? Do you think water pumping can be better than air pumping at the same temp? If so, why? Thanks!
 
@Jackxxx do you not like to state your girth gains? I saw you didn't get back to my reply about that. You also asked me about my BPEL vs FLSBP on my thread but didn't follow up to as of why or of a way you could help with the question you asked so im just a little confused. If your just a busy man i understand, i just like to ask vets that have been in my shoes for guidance, just let me know if im wasting my time, no hard feelings.
 
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Do you think you saw a greater expansion because of the water being warm or just because water pumping produce better results? Because i've tried both air and water pumping many times but even if in the tube with water the expansion seems bigger, when I take it off I haven't noticed any difference; therefore my answer was that the heat is the real difference... What do you think Jack? Do you think water pumping can be better than air pumping at the same temp? If so, why? Thanks!

No idea. As mentioned, is the first time I try water pumping. Yesterday there was no temperature used, the then at the heated water which during the process of experimentation, by the time I was able to get a good seal and pump, it was already way cool below therapeutic zone. But when I came out of the tube, which was just about 10-15 minuets for the hell of it, I had an arm between my legs.
 
@Jackxxx do you not like to state your girth gains? I saw you didn't get back to my reply about that. You also asked me about my BPEL vs FLSBP on my thread but didn't follow up to as of why or of a way you could help with the question you asked so im just a little confused. If your just a busy man i understand, i just like to ask vets that have been in my shoes for guidance, just let me know if im wasting my time, no hard feelings.

Hey bro could you post a link to your thread? Never got the notification to reply.
 
No idea. As mentioned, is the first time I try water pumping. Yesterday there was no temperature used, the then at the heated water which during the process of experimentation, by the time I was able to get a good seal and pump, it was already way cool below therapeutic zone. But when I came out of the tube, which was just about 10-15 minuets for the hell of it, I had an arm between my legs.
Got it, I asked you about this because I had the same impressions a while ago, @DLD what do you think about it? Do you think water pumping may brings better results?
Anyway Jackxx what I'm trying to do now for both girth and bpel is kinda replicate the stress-relaxation principles while in the tube; For example starting at 5hg and then increasing a a half hg every 8 minutes ( everything done with a IR heat pad on)... expansions are great and seems to create less inflammation compared with other ways to pump. Do you think it can be a good approach if I calculate the strain every sessions or it is anyway a creep based system...?
'Cause at the end of the day the septum and the tunica are pretty much the same...correct?
 
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Got it, I asked you about this because I had the same impressions a while ago, @DLD what do you think about it? Do you think water pumping may brings better results?
Anyway Jackxx what I'm trying to do now for both girth and bpel is kinda replicate the stress-relaxation principles while in the tube; For example starting at 5hg and then increasing a a half hg every 8 minutes ( everything done with a IR heat pad on)... expansions are great and seems to create less inflammation compared with other ways to pump. Do you think it can be a good approach if I calculate the strain every sessions or it is anyway a creep based system...?
'Cause at the end of the day the septum and the tunica are pretty much the same...correct?
For instance today's session:
Pre girth 14cm
Post girth 15,2cm
Strain 8,5%
This is way too much if we consider that the limit of inflammation is 3-5%, therefore this is creep, right? But If I manage to keep the strain around 3% every session I can work with stress-relaxation even with girth.... does it make sense??
 
@gg00 I believe you are confusing the literature. The whole stress relaxation with strain thing is in relation to connective tissue/tendon tissue. Not tunica. The tunica is a complete different structure. The septum is part of the tunica but they are not the same. The way the tunica expands it resembles more like a mesh composed of collagen bundles of elastin and other proteins. The way the septum behaves is more similar to a tendon or ligament in which the literate we are using, applies.

I have to recognize that when it comes to BPEL we are still in complete experimental territory. One thing I know for sure, I grew in the past to my maximum potential until I reached the dead end. That dead end has been eliminated now by growing my septum. Creating that extra BPFSL. It is my perception and logic that now I should have all that extra gap to fill with BPEL as I did at some point many years ago.
 
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