Jackxxx UltraSound Therapy Log

Worked the therapeutic heating pad technique with the size genetics today. Had 4 different probes on 2 top and 2 bottom. I was able to get all 4 to 104 in 12 min as I did not have a silisleeve on. I was able to stabilize all temps over 30 min so the timing is successful. I am going to start working strain next week to see how effective the pad is. Still healing up from blisters but experimenting with non vacuum techniques. The draw back to this is an individual will need at least 5.25 exposed shaft minimum to make this work. It get a little crowded in the size genetics but the outlook for this technique is looking good
 
Jürgen88 said:
Look what I found!

"Results: there was a clinically and statistically significant improvement in penile length, angle of curvature and pain after 12 weeks of using the vacuum pump"


This one is for using extenders



Also even though you said you didn't like the idea of using: Collagenase Clostridium histolyticum There is a study using it in conjunction with a penis extender

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Yes, I am aware of the studies proving gains with pump and extenders. However, they are not very efficient. That is why all of us try and use other methods in combinations with the devices.

With the Collagenase Clostridium Histolyticum, I am perfectly aware of the possible benefits of using it. Still, there are potential hazardous side effects that I am not willing to gamble with. I rather watch others using it.

There are chemicals that I will not mention neither share but I have researched and discussed with others, that can create up to 3 inches in BPEL in one day permanently. As unreal as it sounds, yes, it is possible. But an unknown certain pre-existing condition or a bad reaction to it, can kill you instantly. Angel lust.
 
Just a little update, my beloved blister is almost fully closed. This one was deep so it took longer to seal. I have one tiny spot with a crust, it should fall off by tomorrow at which point I will resume protocol.

I have an old vacuum cup with its own sleeve that I never used before. I came up with an idea on how to better adapt it and secure it in place. Will give it a try and hopefully I can handle better tension with this one.
 
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gg00 said:
What I can tell you is that since I’ve started to use an infrared heat pad designed for PE both reaching and keeping the temp is way easier and quicker than a conventional heat pad. Try to take a look at Total Man infrared heat pad for me has been a game changer.
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Do you use the infrared heat pad before and after your routine? During? What type benefits have you seen from using the infrared pad?
 
Jürgen88 said:
I think I know what you refer to, besides I don't want to hijack your thread & since there are many leechers that try to steal other people ideas & methods. I won't bring anything else back up.

Really glad that I am not the only one that "wastes his time" researching, this confirms my thoughts of what I have been researching for the past few years. Thank you @Jackxxx <3
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Im not really trying to protect any ideas brother lol. Quite the opposite, I share with everybody what we find to work and provide results. What I dont share with people, is to protect them from themselves.

We have seen plenty of behavior around in the last few years how the governments have altered the brain chemistry creating humans completely unstable in every single aspect of their lives. In our sport here, we have people desperate to grow their dicks and they will try anything no matter what advises you put on the table. But again, we are talking about mentally unstable people, which is a huge majority these days.

Therefore, I wouldn't feel good if somebody kill himself by trying novel risky methods shared by me.
 
Back in business.

Today experiment was pretty pleasant. This vacuum cup behaved very well, while at the same time I applied a better coating of gorilla tape plus a layer of liquid bandaid on top. Everything stayed sealed in place.

Results:

Pre BPFSL: 24.8cm
Post BPFSL: 25.2cm
Strain: 1.6%

I am clearly at this point pulling tissues other than the septum. Towards the last 5 minutes of the US heated portion I could feel a tender sensation in the corpus spongosium.

I am slowly crawling up millimeter by millimeter, but of course each one of them counts. As in the last session, I reached a maximum of 5.1-5.3kg (5kg in weights, extra weight accounting for basket, scale, rope tension)

It seems like this cycle will be a normal cycle, that means sessions for the next following 2 days, followed by 2 rest days.
 
Jürgen88 said:
@Jackxxx do you know any other Collagenases apart from Clostridium Histolyticum? Maybe if you dont want

Have you researched about anti-elastases?

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21691401.2018.1443274"

Another question:

Maybe I am mixing concepts but, you said that 3% strain is needed in order to make gains whilst using the UT, now lately I have been writing down your results in an excel and they have been lately in the 1-2% strain range, yet you are making gains. Is a higher percentage better for progression?

Also while we are stretching and using the UT, are we looking for deformation of the fibrils?, are we looking to break them down?
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It seems like the application of that study is to prevent and reverse skin wrinkles through the antioxidant activity of that bacteria. We would have to wait and see some research done on connective/tenson tissue.

3% is the maximum stain, not the optimal. We believe that more than 3% of strain falls in the area of inflammation which has to be avoided at all costs.

So to answer your other question, yes we can say we are looking for deformation of the fibrils but NEVER break them down. If we break them down, they just grow back stronger, more resistant with less tensile capacity. Its a matter of playing with their tensile strength, and that is the exact reason why we are using all these approaches of stress relaxation, lower tension, heat. By deformation, I mean reorganization, which over time restructure the bundle to accommodate the collagen fiber.

The purpose of this therapy is to cause a reorganization of the ECM over time
 
Some update.

I was expected to do this cycle normally, but yesterday I found a purple swollen small area on the bottom side of the glans. It seems it was the product of a crease in the gorilla tape that compressed the tissue there. Just for safety, I am giving it a couple of days to heal. No rush. Less is more, patience is key.

On the good side, I just measured BPFSL for control at 25cm.

I believe I will be able to finish this period at least with 25.4cm which equals 10 inches of phallic apparatus.

Ideally, with a 3rd and even a 4th period I could possibly finish this year between 10.5-11 inches, and if everything stays on track, perhaps towards the end of next year reach the foot long of phallus. Granted, this is based on BPFSL, but this capacity opens the possibility for BPEL development to come behind.

I am working a strategy for BPEL development and I will work on preliminary tests soon.
 
Jackxxx said:
It seems like the application of that study is to prevent and reverse skin wrinkles through the antioxidant activity of that bacteria. We would have to wait and see some research done on connective/tendon tissue.

3% is the maximum stain, not the optimal. We believe that more than 3% of strain falls in the area of inflammation which has to be avoided at all costs.

So to answer your other question, yes we can say we are looking for deformation of the fibrils but NEVER break them down. If we break them down, they just grow back stronger, more resistant with less tensile capacity. Its a matter of playing with their tensile strength, and that is the exact reason why we are using all these approaches of stress relaxation, lower tension, heat. By deformation, I mean reorganization, which over time restructure the bundle to accommodate the collagen fiber.

The purpose of this therapy is to cause a reorganization of the ECM over time
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I love hearing about your progress keep it up man! Make us all proud!​

On another note, you posted an article back in 2019:


"1500 mm. Hg" was due to saline infusion?, and the second was "600 to 750 mm" without the saline infusion correct?

Even tho it was in the TA, and your problem is a thickened septum, you said in last post this:

"I am clearly at this point pulling tissues other than the septum. Towards the last 5 minutes of the US heated portion I could feel a tender sensation in the corpus spongosium."

Here are my thoughts:

  • I have been thinking about this, even tho it remains unsafe, and you could literally cause an hernia. But only if you go to the extreme:
What would happen if
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For example we inject a 0.9% saline injection around 1 - 2 ml on one side and 1 - 2 ml on the other side, using bilaterally injections.

Since we want to increase internal pressure & (We are not looking increasing girth, but that's a benefit) tension (like in that study), therefore making it possible to gain/ increase our lengths/girths at a much faster rate. (Even though your limiting factor is the septum)
What if we combined
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0.9 saline injection 4ml (ex.) + DMSO + UT GEL + HEAT FROM U.T + hanging?

Since a saline injection is reabsorbed by the body, 24h later you won't have any type of edema left and you could inject again.

Other idea came to mind:​

Combination of pge1 + phenylephrine (Detumescence the erection produced) = Therefore PGE-1 Increases elasticity + phenylephrine = Ceases erection.

Now what if we combine both, PGE-1 ability to increase elasticity, saline injection on increase internal pressure and making the tissue be able to stretch even more without causing ruptures, + DMSO+UT GEL on skin + HEAT + hanging?

That way you could probably increase strain without having to use additional weights.​

I have written down in an excel your progress and you went from 3-3.5kg (Correct me if I am wrong, the first phase) to a whopping 5.1kg with a Strain of 1 to 1.9%

Thr???-X was the first one to bring that idea, and I like that style, writing an excel with everything logged & organized) (Perhaps you are writing one too)

Don't want to sound like a stalker, more like in a way that you can help others, since a detailed in depth log, would help people, like Kyrpa's thread on TP, but for matter of size.
Because I have read on other forums that some people are replicating it without thickened septums, resulting in them using absurd weights, because they follow what others do, and they don't take the time & consideration to read that the weights have to be according to their state.
(Not every individual tho, others read the guidelines on how to do it)


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Little backstory so you can I understand why I am interested in this:​

I have experimented in saline injections in the testes, more like in the scrotum very close to DARTOS fascia, to stretch it without causing too much deformity. Injecting max: 10-12 ml & afterwards pump.

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Because if you inject too much of it happens like using ELLANSÉ for girth injections, you use too much it causes stretch marks to appear, and that's not appealing to the eye.

Combined with fsh/rfsh injections + aromasin (Since medium to low e2 levels and high FSH levels is responsible for triggering a response for bigger testicles sizes, its like the TSH signal of the thyroid) Plus hanging with light weights.
Because whenever I got an erection my testes tugged back, remaining like the ones from a bulldog.

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I went from a size 16 to a size in between 20 & 25, and came from having the testes as tight as it they could physically be, to a much more relaxed hanging state in a matter of a year, 8 - 9 months give or take. 16 weeks first period & 16 weeks the second period.
 
Jürgen88 said:
Yeah as a penis filler. I went to androfill in the UK once. Literally nothing beats ellanse in terms of firmness. Well PMMA...

Also ellanse is not recommended if you are new to H.A, first they have to patch test for any allergic reactions, if you are allergic to H.A the doctor should tell you, or advise against using it.

Also the molding process is fucking tedious man, also you have to wear super tight underwear in order for the filler to not cause nodules or dropping or going to one side...

Because Ellanse acts faster than H.A, whereas for example teosyal Ultradeep, takes around 24-72h to settle.

"Surgery" is basically depending on your pain tolerance, topical lidocaine or injectable lidocaine, then with a 21-23g they make an incision in the skin, as so called cannula, then they insert the needle(27-30 g depending on what H.A/filler brand you have chosen) and then start applying (it literally deposits the filler on top of it) above the dartos fascia.

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Also do not ever inject ellanse M/L/XL, you really don't want to have it there for 4 years. Just ask them to inject ELLANSE S.

Plus ellanse S is the cheapest of the three, and is almost trouble free.

I'd rather do this procedure once or twice per year and have no nodules than having to wait for 4 years for it to resolve.

  • ELLANSE S = Stays for 1 year (give or take). I was told that if you fuck 24/7 nonstop it will only last 3 -5 months. And yeah it boots your own collagen production, your penis will look and feel thicker.
A side effect I found is that vascularity will be greatly reduced. (Your veins will not be popping up as they used to)
Unless you have mandingo's veins, which in that case you shouldn't bother.

1- You can inject every 2 - 3 months, ranging from 6 - 10 ml at once, let it settle down, and after 3 months if no nodules appeared and you followed the protocol that the doctor dictates you...

(You may never want to inject more than 10ml or even 6ml, since it creates stretch marks on the skin, similar when you are skinny and start getting muscular or fat.)

2 - You can proceed to inject another 10ml.
With each 10ml I gained about 0.35 to 0.5" in girth. Max I injected in one year is 20ml. which equals to 0.75 to 1 " in girth.

2.1 - Or if you want to become the next Vladimir the impaler, and inject 40+ml
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3- Also the bigger you are, the less you inches you can obtain (Due to skin elasticity, since you can only fit inside there a limited amount due to the skin being super tight).
Let's say you 5.5 MD (Mid section), now with 10 ml you can expect .40", therefore reaching the desired 6" mark (rounding up)

I can't say prices because everyone is gonna be different you could inject 10ml, other 6ml...

4- Ellanse it's expensive but worth it. Expect at least around 5k per year spent per 20ml. If done there. If you do it in germany like, It will cost almost double.

It will give you bigger flaccid, bigger flaccid girth, and bigger erect girth. You will love to show off.

Different purity's:​
Guess which one is gonna give you the best result?
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PMMA(PERMANENT + high risk) > ELLANSE (A modest 1 year) > TEOSYAL ULTRADEEP (Almost 1 year) > JUVEDERM VOLUX > REST.

Also I increased my head girth size with DLD Head expansion exercises + 2ml of H.A, which I can't recall what name it was, but it was a cheap one.

@DLD Material. If you would me like to remove the video, ask me and I will remove it.

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But If you do Ellanse injection can you do PE training as before ( in my case clamping and pumping ) without complication or it will cause deformations/nodules?? Thank you so much ?
 
It sounds interesting something that can boost collagen production... it would be useful for our training...
 
gg00 said:
But If you do Ellanse injection can you do PE training as before ( in my case clamping and pumping ) without complication or it will cause deformations/nodules?? Thank you so much ?
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After 1 month you can continue with your new thicker cock. You can clamp, pump, hang, ultrasound...whatever, you have the added benefit of having a collagen stimulator in your pants. But only after 1 month, just to reduce any nodules + any possible inflammation that occurred, since if you don't give it enough time to the filler to settle in, and take proper care, it will clump like a grain of rice.
Talking by experience, wait at least 1 month following a routine the doctor gives you and after that, enjoy stretching pussies, mouths :O , throats(?)?
  • Ellansé S: 18 months, but it is more like 12 months. If you get a new dick at least I expect to have more sex.
  • Ellansé M: 2 years
  • Ellansé L: 3 years
 
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Jürgen88 said:
After 1 month you can continue with your new thicker cock. You can clamp, pump, hang, ultrasound...whatever, you have the added benefit of having a collagen stimulator in your pants. But only after 1 month, just to reduce any nodules + any possible inflammation that occurred, since if you don't give it enough time to the filler to settle in, and take proper care, it will clump like a grain of rice.
Talking by experience, wait at least 1 month following a routine the doctor gives you and after that, enjoy stretching pussies, mouths :O , throats(?)?
  • Ellansé S: 18 months, but it is more like 12 months. If you get a new dick at least I expect to have more sex.
  • Ellansé M: 2 years
  • Ellansé L: 3 years
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That’s great mate I’m wondering if they do this procedure in Italy as well... otherwise what do you suggest me in Europe.... UK? Germany?
 
@Jürgen88 Thanks for the analysis brother. For that internal pressure what has worked the best for me is PGE-1. That combined with low vacuum pressure in the pump it makes for an awesome workout.

I am personally not worried about hernia or something else, since I believe those things are catastrophic failure of the tissues due to chronic essential nutrient deficiency.

There is a "universal" Excel template created by another member, I will see if it is possible to share it with everybody here. I believe it would be much better to have all our numbers standardized in a same spreadsheet.
 
BigSean said:
hi jackxxx

I started using the ultrasound did my second session last night . I’m using the soundcare plus 3mhz

I do 30 min relaxation with 2.2lb
20 min ultrasound with 4.5 lb
10 min relaxation

my questions are

do I need to hang over my leg to preform the US session? I hang over my leg without a pulley just straight from the vacum hanger.

mid I use a pulley do I need to hang straight up or still over my leg with the pulley?

another questions I had if I use the pulley and let say I started the session with 4LB and want to add a pound how do I add it with out getting up ? Losing temperature etc?

would be nice to understand better the logistics of the setup
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First the therapy itself, you need to go increasing weight. Just keeping the same weight will have little impact on tensile strength of the tissues. Wether on strain or creep, you start with a low tension and increase throughout the protocol. Only the last 10 minutes, which is not relaxation anymore, is cool down and that one you keep it with the same weight.

If you have a 3Mhz device, you dont need to hang over the leg. Theoretically, 3Mhz frequencies go less deeper in the tissues so all the sound waves should stay inside the penis.

If you do over the leg, you need a pulley. Because if you just lay it over the leg and hang the weight on the others side, the friction between your dick and your leg will be too big, preventing stretching. The pulley has to be around the same height as your leg, so the penis is pulled pretty much straight out to the side over the leg.

How to add weight without standing up or losing temp? Well, my pulley goes under my table not too far away from me. On the other side of the pulley the rope hangs with a basket in which I put the incremental weight. Since is not too far, I just grab a weight from the table, and throw it in the basket.

Take a look and the first pages of this thread in which I posted pictures of my setup and Thr???-X posted detailed pictures of each products and layout of the setup.
 
BigSean said:
Thank you so much for your detailed answer

Can you please give example of your weight increase in one session what you start with ? Let’s say relaxation is 1kg then when starring us is ??? Then after how many min you increase the weight and how many min wait till the next increase? A detailed explanation will be appreciated

Definetly will set up my pulley like you mentioned and will use a bucket makes total sense now THANK YOU !!
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At the beginning of the therapy, and this is something that you will need to gauge over time, I was starting with 0.5kg Incrementing every aprox 3 minutes, during my first period I was increasing some 0.5kg at a time. Again, during my first period I did not have the whole process standardized, so these numbers are aproximate. But at the end, I ws reaching weights as high as 6-7kg.

Now during my second period I have everything more standardized. I start with 1kg of net weight, but a gross weight of around 1.3kg accounting for the weight of the basket, scale, rope tension. I slowly increase by 200gr at a time every 3 minutes, reaching a total of 5-5.3kg. I am not exactly accurate about the 3 minutes, sometimes I go 3.5mins or a little less in between, but I make sure if I reach 5kg, I stop there.

When you start, it is important to start with low tension. For example start with 0.5kg, slowly increment 0.2-0.5kg, but during your first few times do not pass 2.5-3kg of total tension. The final strain will determine the weight. If at the end you achieve a healthy strain, no ned to increase. If you see no difference, slowly increase tension next time. Remember fatigue, inflammation, microtears, rupture, has to be avoided at all costs.
 
CDGainer said:
do you see this routine/therapy as something anyone should do...or is this more of a "you hit the wall and this is how you get over it".
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That is still up for debate juts like the use of steroids in bodybuilding. If you ask any professional coach or athlete, they will tell you to exercise naturally, gain as much as you can, learn to know you body, master the diet, the execution of each exercise, then once you depleted your natural genetic potential you use steroids to push you up to the next level.

I believe this to be the same. if your BPFSL is significantly more than your BPEL, no need to worry about this therapy at this point since you will see gains in BPEL from conventional PE. But if your BPFSL is equal to your BPEL, you will benefit from this approach in creating that gap for potential BPEL.

And of course if you've been in this for a long time and your gains stopped, there are high chances that your BPFSL is equal to your BPEL due to toughening of the septum over time.
 
BigSean said:
Hi Jackxxx

I been experiencing my glans sliding down from the vacum chamber during us do you experience that as well? Or does it need to stay at the top of chamber for successfully us session?
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You mean the vacuum cup is slipping off? if so yes that is a problem, you need to make sure you have proper vacuum seal. Also because a better vacuum will protect you from blisters.
 
Jürgen88 said:
By the way, did the newskin work for you? No more blisters?
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Yes as I have used before. However, I have been out for a few days. The last time I left a crease in the gorilla tape that pinched the bottom side of the glans creating an injury. Still healing.
 
DLD said:
What I’m asking is could the new skin be used let’s say on your face to hold wrinkles back? I sort of ghetto Botox? It just occurred to me and I figured I would ask
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I'd rather use other products, that will burn the face, not like sulfuric acid or something, but in a way of like:

If you have ever applied any BHA or AHA on your face, right after you have over exfoliated your skin too much, you apply them and burn like crazy.

(I use my gf's BHA of Paula's choice: (Sounds like some kind of vintage porno movie thought (cwl) (cwl) )


(Be aware of this product, is so pasty but works for dark circles under the eyes) (Long nights being awake?)


Plus this: (If my gf wants to look good and young, why cant we (men) take care of ourselves too?)​

This shit works fantastic, it will hold wrinkles back, after some use:

(Sort of "ghetto botox", after some minutes on your face it will stretch your skin, due to it getting dried)


(Serum form)
DLD said:
does this hold the penis tight?
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Actually it creates like a layer around/on top of your glans, so it cant expand and cause a blister. I sometimes use it with the silicap or the phallosan cap, for extra protection for hanging. After that I wrap it below the glans and maybe a bit of the shaft and boom, perfect grip and no more blisters.
HAPPY HANGING!

All thanks to @HeMan1

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@Jackxxx
I have been thinking lately about using the 3mhz option of my sound care plus, but I am hesitant to even use ultrasound as I haven't reached a dead end yet, but would like to try these ideas that I have in mind, let me know your thoughts:

  • What if I use the gel pad + 3mhz in the perineum, right where we can still touch our hidden penis, whilst expressive stretching?​

  • What if I put the gel pad + 3mhz on top of my suspensory ligament and hang forcing my posture to hit the ligament more?​

Wouldn't those two situations cause longer flaccid + more penis being available to stretch?​

Possible problems, hitting the prostate, but since I am using the 3mhz + the gel pad, that shouldn't be a problem right? Since it cant reach deep enough
 
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