Involuntary kegels for hardness?

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Hello!

I have a question about hardness and involuntary kegels.
I used to have harder erections and i also used to have involuntary kegels.
Is there any correlation between hardness of your penis and involuntary kegels? I know DLD promotes us to do kegels everyday and nothing about balancing the pelvic floor.
Could it be possible that the goal is to get strong muscles enough to handle involuntary kegels for longer periods, so your penis is as hard as possible for as long as possible?

Thanks!
 
Can you explain what you mean by involuntary kegels? Is it literally kegels which 'happen' rather than kegels you intentionally perform?
 
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The theory on other forums is that if you go overboard and do too many kegels compared to reverse kegels your pelvic floor will be unbalanced.
involuntary kegels is spasms in the pelvic floor area which causes you to do regular kegels unintentionally which often leads to premature ejaculation.
This can happen more easy if you are not relaxed or nervous and tensed. If you are tensed you could very well be doing kegels or hold a kegel while not even think
about it which will lead to premature ejaculation.

What i was thinking is if you build up some endurance & strength in those muscles. Make your reverse kegel strong, and also your regular kegels strong. Train your PC & BC muscle.
This will let you handle the involuntary kegels for longer periods of time, making your erection last harder for longer periods as you are trained to handle this.
And if your BC muscle is strong too, you could do a hard reverse kegel if you feel that you are going to cum, to kinda control the involuntary kegels for a while.

My theory: If you do involuntary kegels you will pump more blood to your penis, giving you a harder penis. Because as you can see if you hold a kegel while erect you can get stone hard.
If you would involuntary pump this motion over and over your penis will keep being stone hard. If your PC muscles have good endurance and strength you will not get exhausted
too fast while doing this involuntary kegels. If your endurance is bad and your strength is weak your erections will subside faster and not get as hard. As your penis gets bigger and needs more blood you will have to build
up your kegels over and over again to be able to handle those involuntary kegels for longer period of times, while being able to push back the premature ejaculation with your reverse kegels.

Just my theory.
 
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habban;703711 said:
The theory on other forums is that if you go overboard and do too many kegels compared to reverse kegels your pelvic floor will be unbalanced.
involuntary kegels is spasms in the pelvic floor area which causes you to do regular kegels unintentionally which often leads to premature ejaculation.
This can happen more easy if you are not relaxed or nervous and tensed. If you are tensed you could very well be doing kegels or hold a kegel while not even think
about it which will lead to premature ejaculation.

What i was thinking is if you build up some endurance & strength in those muscles. Make your reverse kegel strong, and also your regular kegels strong. Train your PC & BC muscle.
This will let you handle the involuntary kegels for longer periods of time, making your erection last harder for longer periods as you are trained to handle this.
And if your BC muscle is strong too, you could do a hard reverse kegel if you feel that you are going to cum, to kinda control the involuntary kegels for a while.

My theory: If you do involuntary kegels you will pump more blood to your penis, giving you a harder penis. Because as you can see if you hold a kegel while erect you can get stone hard.
If you would involuntary pump this motion over and over your penis will keep being stone hard. If your PC muscles have good endurance and strength you will not get exhausted
too fast while doing this involuntary kegels. If your endurance is bad and your strength is weak your erections will subside faster and not get as hard. As your penis gets bigger and needs more blood you will have to build
up your kegels over and over again to be able to handle those involuntary kegels for longer period of times, while being able to push back the premature ejaculation with your reverse kegels.

Just my theory.
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That's strange. I've never had involuntary kegels. If it works for you like a regular system then thats great you don't have to think about doing kegels. Take advantage of that dude.
 
kyomoto;703715 said:
That's strange. I've never had involuntary kegels. If it works for you like a regular system then thats great you don't have to think about doing kegels. Take advantage of that dude.
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I don't have involuntary kegels anymore. I used to have like that.

I'm here asking if someone has any knowledge about this. Especially DLD, what his thoughts is about this since he promotes only kegels. :)
 
I've come-across several threads where Mike espouses the virtues of RK's as well as Kegels, and the underlying message in all of PE is, (or should be) balance and safety. Personally, I've done so many K's and RK's that it's almost part of my breathing...what I mean is, I don't actively notice that I'm doing them and will catch myself. I wouldn't classify this as involuntary as much as not paying attention :)
 
habban;703717 said:
I don't have involuntary kegels anymore. I used to have like that.

I'm here asking if someone has any knowledge about this. Especially DLD, what his thoughts is about this since he promotes only kegels. :)
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What did you do to get there though. Or is it just like you have no idea?
 
kyomoto;703721 said:
What did you do to get there though. Or is it just like you have no idea?
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Many kegels. It became a normal habit as Big Schwanz Art says that you don't notice because it is in your unconsciousness.
DLD say do kegels all day everyday, do it when you drive car etc etc. Eventually it will led to being something you do all the time.
It was when i finally understand why i had premature ejaculation i noticed that i did kegels unintentionally. So i took notice and fixed it.
But i have now come to the conclusion that perhaps they are good, i just have to be able to control them during sex.
 
habban;703734 said:
Many kegels. It became a normal habit as Big Schwanz Art says that you don't notice because it is in your unconsciousness.
DLD say do kegels all day everyday, do it when you drive car etc etc. Eventually it will led to being something you do all the time.
It was when i finally understand why i had premature ejaculation i noticed that i did kegels unintentionally. So i took notice and fixed it.
But i have now come to the conclusion that perhaps they are good, i just have to be able to control them during sex.
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What do you do control those unintentional kegels like for premature ejaculation, reverse kegels? I'm interested if this well help with pre-cum because I hate having pre cum it's so annoying when you're trying to be cautious with someone
 
kyomoto;703743 said:
What do you do control those unintentional kegels like for premature ejaculation, reverse kegels? I'm interested if this well help with pre-cum because I hate having pre cum it's so annoying when you're trying to be cautious with someone
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Try to relax the whole area, think about the area down there and focus on what is happening. Reverse kegels just help to force the relaxation. About the pre-cum i'm not sure what you mean. It can happen with me too if i go too far close the PONR without having enough control of the situation i guess.
 
habban;703747 said:
Try to relax the whole area, think about the area down there and focus on what is happening. Reverse kegels just help to force the relaxation. About the pre-cum i'm not sure what you mean. It can happen with me too if i go too far close the PONR without having enough control of the situation i guess.
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I basically just want to stop precum all together :/ I think it's possible.
 
Pre-cum is necessary, it's needed to produce an ejaculation, the lubricant that get you to shoot across the room. ("ptooey" "tling")
It's controlled by the body’s hormones, stop producing the hormones and it will stop, which in itself is self-defeating.
It's knowing when to pull back on the action and relax and then resume...
...learn to practice tantric sex, I was nickname "Marathon-Man by a few of my ex-lovers
 
Threak-X;703766 said:
Pre-cum is necessary, it's needed to produce an ejaculation, the lubricant that get you to shoot across the room. ("ptooey" "tling")
It's controlled by the body’s hormones, stop producing the hormones and it will stop, which in itself is self-defeating.
It's knowing when to pull back on the action and relax and then resume...
...learn to practice tantric sex, I was nickname "Marathon-Man by a few of my ex-lovers
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Is it difficult to stop pre-cum? In adult entertainment there are guys where you don't even see it I may be wrong. I'll look into tantric sex
 
kyomoto;703810 said:
Is it difficult to stop pre-cum? In adult entertainment there are guys where you don't even see it I may be wrong. I'll look into tantric sex
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In professional adult entertainment making, they don't do one-continuous shot. There are long-shots, medium-shots, close-up shots, the infamous money-shots and so on. There are numerous camera angles that are employed, then they are all edit together to make it look like one take in the movie. So they (actors) have breaks while they set up for the different angle shots, plus their regular breaks including lunch break. They use lots of lube(usually don't see) for the women because they get dry and men get fluffed to get back up to do the scene. It can be an all-day event just to get what looks like a 30-minute sexual-fuck encounter. It's a legit business and they have to adhere to the labor laws and provide contracts to the actors and film-staff. All that work, so you don't see precum (LoL)

I think DLD can vouch for it, I believe he has been a adult entertainment set or two during filming in his life time.
 
Threak-X;703813 said:
In professional adult entertainment making, they don't do one-continuous shot. There are long-shots, medium-shots, close-up shots, the infamous money-shots and so on. There are numerous camera angles that are employed, then they are all edit together to make it look like one take in the movie. So they (actors) have breaks while they set up for the different angle shots, plus their regular breaks including lunch break. They use lots of lube(usually don't see) for the women because they get dry and men get fluffed to get back up to do the scene. It can be an all-day event just to get what looks like a 30-minute sexual-fuck encounter. It's a legit business and they have to adhere to the labor laws and provide contracts to the actors and film-staff. All that work, so you don't see precum (LoL)

I think DLD can vouch for it, I believe he has been a adult entertainment set or two during filming in his life time.
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Indeed I can and you are correct. With Bang Bros. it was not a very erotic situation for anyone. It was a lot of stop and go and wait action. The first thing they do is the cumshot and a few hours later they will do all the other scenes. I was invited to do a adult entertainment with them and 10 of their girls but I just knew I could never perform like that. It is amazing. Rocco would do like 3 scenes a day and then he would top out and cuckold at night...I do not think this guys cock ever goes soft! adult entertainment actors are pros at what they do, it takes a certain type of guy. If anyone thinks that this is sexy or erotic has a big disappointment coming. The final product is seamless and in order but it was never shot that way, all in the edit room.
 
Threak-X;703813 said:
In professional adult entertainment making, they don't do one-continuous shot. There are long-shots, medium-shots, close-up shots, the infamous money-shots and so on. There are numerous camera angles that are employed, then they are all edit together to make it look like one take in the movie. So they (actors) have breaks while they set up for the different angle shots, plus their regular breaks including lunch break. They use lots of lube(usually don't see) for the women because they get dry and men get fluffed to get back up to do the scene. It can be an all-day event just to get what looks like a 30-minute sexual-fuck encounter. It's a legit business and they have to adhere to the labor laws and provide contracts to the actors and film-staff. All that work, so you don't see precum (LoL)

I think DLD can vouch for it, I believe he has been a adult entertainment set or two during filming in his life time.
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Oh okay i see. Well that makes sense. Hmmm
 
doublelongdaddy;703827 said:
... The first thing they do is the cumshot and a few hours later they will do all the other scenes.
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I always thought they do that last - dream crushed :(

doublelongdaddy;703827 said:
Indeed I can and you are correct. With Bang Bros. it was not a very erotic situation for anyone. It was a lot of stop and go and wait action.
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So I assume you didn't do adult entertainment then?
 
Munto;703929 said:
I always thought they do that last - dream crushed :(



So I assume you didn't do adult entertainment then?
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No, it would be against my own beliefs but, even if not for that, I would never be able to do what those guys do. Like I said they are pros.
 
hahaha adult entertainment another boring and demanding job where things arent as cool as they seem...

Wonder if people like ron jeremy have been enjoying their adult entertainment careers all of these years.
 
LONGERDICK7+;704000 said:
hahaha adult entertainment another boring and demanding job where things arent as cool as they seem...

Wonder if people like ron jeremy have been enjoying their adult entertainment careers all of these years.
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Well i mean they wouldn't do the job if they didn't enjoy it right?
 
LONGERDICK7+;704000 said:
hahaha adult entertainment another boring and demanding job where things arent as cool as they seem...

Wonder if people like ron jeremy have been enjoying their adult entertainment careers all of these years.
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I know, it seems like all fun but the reality of it is it is a tough job!
 
LONGERDICK7+;704000 said:
hahaha adult entertainment another boring and demanding job where things arent as cool as they seem...
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That's why you do the kind of work you have a passion for and is self-rewarding, otherwise, 'it's just a job'...
 
Threak-X;704289 said:
That's why you do the kind of work you have a passion for and is self-rewarding, otherwise, 'it's just a job'...
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It's to enjoy your job. Otherwise you're not happy.
 
kyomoto;704326 said:
It's to enjoy your job. Otherwise you're not happy.
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With any job you do, learn the to enjoy it, because if you're completely unhappy with it, it's time to move on. I just did that recently and I'm in a much better place physically and mentally for it.
 
Threak-X;704362 said:
With any job you do, learn the to enjoy it, because if you're completely unhappy with it, it's time to move on. I just did that recently and I'm in a much better place physically and mentally for it.
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yeah, many people don't listen to this and become a "nurse" and all they do is stress themselves out in school. Like why are you going to work for something that you're so stressed about?
 
Threak-X;704289 said:
That's why you do the kind of work you have a passion for and is self-rewarding, otherwise, 'it's just a job'...
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In my opinion one should do what he loves until he can start making a living from it. This is how I carved my way into this Brotherhood.
 
doublelongdaddy;704491 said:
In my opinion one should do what he loves until he can start making a living from it. This is how I carved my way into this Brotherhood.
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great advice!! right now i do things im not really into,but i have to get some cash in order to survive lol, but im quite sure that id make a living out f the things i love everyday i get closer to that DREAM:)
 
kyomoto;704411 said:
yeah, many people don't listen to this and become a "nurse" and all they do is stress themselves out in school. Like why are you going to work for something that you're so stressed about?
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yep if that thing is not enjoyable at all, better to look for something that might be better and more enjoyable!!
 
kyomoto said:
That's strange. I've never had involuntary kegels. If it works for you like a regular system then thats great you don't have to think about doing kegels. Take advantage of that dude.
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Me too. All kegels I perform has always been intentional. I think I've seen a comment by DLD where he said he has experience with involuntary kegels.
 
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