Progress thread I'm back in business with expressive stretching

Do you wear any sleeve to enable you heal in an elongated state whenever you are not exercising?

I've never bothered doing it, just something I dont like wearing sleeves for long periods of time.

My mindset is, that if its intense enough to begin with, and the adequate rest followed, gains will come regardless of wrapping, its in my personal view just personal preference because many have gained throughout the years without doing that.

With expressive stretching it might be off anyway due to it being internal penis behind the balls getting stretched out, not the penis seen.
 
I think that what you’re doing right now is definitely putting extreme stress not only on the ligament but on all growth points. The ultimate combination would be expressive stretching and fulcrum stretching. This will ensure you were hitting every angle possible. The power assist exercises, which are all fulcrum, would be smart to add in. Don’t go crazy took maybe three of the stretches and include that and see where that takes you. I’ve been writing the power assist into many routines lately because I realize just how important fulcrum stretching is.

Sweet one. Could you recommend a fulcrum stretch for me to use with the lengthmaster
 
I've never bothered doing it, just something I dont like wearing sleeves for long periods of time.

My mindset is, that if its intense enough to begin with, and the adequate rest followed, gains will come regardless of wrapping, its in my personal view just personal preference because many have gained throughout the years without doing that.

With expressive stretching it might be off anyway due to it being internal penis behind the balls getting stretched out, not the penis seen.

Bought the silisleeves a few days ago just got them but they work ok if I use them during the day,i want to leave them during the night but I have to get use to it cause feel a burning sensation around the base of the penis..
 
Bought the silisleeves a few days ago just got them but they work ok if I use them during the day,i want to leave them during the night but I have to get use to it cause feel a burning sensation around the base of the penis..

I personally prefer ace bandage to the sleeves.
 
@huge-girth seriously though, these expressive stretches are something. They are making changes in my dick, I can tell from the insane erections I get at night, always the night after I work it. The length just looks longer, you know yourself, we can tell when its different. I'm talking small amounts here, but small things become bigger things right :)

The only negative really is that these aren't the easiest stretch in the world to execute as you may already know. Getting all the dick and balls through is one thing, than gripping around it and pulling on it all once with a really intense force is quite another, but please believe me in saying that once you get the knack of it from doing slow gently movements at first, so your position is correct, its well worth it.

Bundled, jeez ... takes it to the next level. Again, some men may find that very difficult to perform due to space behind the balls needed for inner penis.

I can only summarize that all those years of clamping my whole package developed inner penis, I always had something bulgy going on back there between my balls and ass, which may explain how I have took to it so well? if you can get time, give them a shot just the standard method, no bundles to start with, and just go very easy at first .. doesn't need to be legs back, full stretch.

All this time, I recall seeing a thread or two over the years by a member on why we always stretch dick by gripping under the head or just grabbing the shaft, and only now after all these frickin years has the penny dropped ... you can get more intense stretching from doing expressive work, the reverse method I have been adding in attacks the suspensory ligament just as well as the DLD A stretch, but even more intense than that.

Perhaps this was after all the hidden "secret" to full growth? when you see it in your minds eye, that really only so much can be done on the penis we see outside the body ... its really if you think about it, a weak link in the chain. Like in weight lifting, no study on earth has ever been shown that a full range of motion is needed to develop a muscle or increase strength .... yet most of us have kept doing it, because its whats done ... doesn't mean its the most productive.

I have gained better from heavy static holds placed where my muscle is maximally contracted, and heavy range partials, heavy negatives than I did with any full range motion movements. They are only needed if you are a pro power lifter, Olympic lifter and need to use full range of motion, because in daily life we never use full range movements, I certainly never did when loading a wagon up with goods, it was partials.

By lifting the weight in the strongest range, we get straight to the meat and it transfers over to full range strength from the studies I have read, incl my own experience. Example, that we have a weak spot in exercises, such as the bottom of a bench press right ... well unless you are a powerlifter, you needn't even do a full range bench press, it will just cause more wear and tear on the joints in time going up and down, most go too quick anyway which isn't good, but when you go for the partials at the top for 6-10 inches on a smith machine, or rack with safety pins using heavy weight your central nervous system hasn't a clue its doing full range or whatever, all it knows is survival, and your lifting heavy weight so next time to compensate for that the body grows stronger, but you wouldn't have been able to lift that much weight up top doing the full range due to the weak link at the bottom .Think about it.

I take this logic to expressive stretching created by the wizard of penis enlargement aka DoubleLongDaddy my friend Mike, and compare it to how pretty much 99% of men out there train the dick, which is externally. Not saying that its useless, its not .. like with the weight lifting comparison, you still gain something doing it full range, but I'm speaking about the most bang for the buck, the method that can take a guy far, remove barriers once and for all.

Guess I'm well and truly on this journey now, and a guinea pig of sorts having never read anyone using these long enough to really see large growth apart from DLD.
 
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Also today, and even now as I type this, feeling soreness in my suspensory ligament. You know, that dull ache deep in the pubic region, and a tenderness to the inner penis. My erections were again like a lead pipe last night.
 
March 21st

Was meant to be a rest day, but after getting a boner and having a tug I noticed as already posted that it looked longer.

I did a really hard 20 minutes alternating after one of the bundled expressive stretches and reverse expressive stretches. Used the lengthmaster of course.

First time using this alternating method just to change it up abit. So it went like a stretch lasting for as long as I could doing expressive, than it was quickly into a reverse for a long stretch, back to standard and so on.

Chucked in some bundled reverse, not sure yet if it's better bundled or conventional with that, but certainly when doing the dynamics, it's felt more when not bundled.

Before doing all that, when I was erect, I did a few erect stretches, and erect under the leg pulls.

Testicle massage to finish off, gently rubbing the scrotum.
 
Since the lm chamber broke i could only use it as a power assist share the exercises would be cool to know what to do next once I finish the newbie routine..

send Lightning a message and he will replace your chamber...lifetime warranty
 
send Lightning a message and he will replace your chamber...lifetime warranty

Mike don't you remember the new chamber holes Will not fit with the "Handles" because I got the old version of the LM, would be great if I could get a new LM instead..(We had talked about it before)..
 
Mike don't you remember the new chamber holes Will not fit with the "Handles" because I got the old version of the LM, would be great if I could get a new LM instead..(We had talked about it before)..

now I remember....Getting senile in my old age ?
 
now I remember....Getting senile in my old age ?

Mike You got a shit ton of things to do,you're a busy guy you're a pastor you got to check the forums n your PE LIFE.. you just can't remember everything imo..n no i don't think you're getting senile at all LOL
 
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I think that what you’re doing right now is definitely putting extreme stress not only on the ligament but on all growth points. The ultimate combination would be expressive stretching and fulcrum stretching. This will ensure you were hitting every angle possible. The power assist exercises, which are all fulcrum, would be smart to add in. Don’t go crazy took maybe three of the stretches and include that and see where that takes you. I’ve been writing the power assist into many routines lately because I realize just how important fulcrum stretching is.

After looking for different exercises that are fulcrum, it appears that the reverse expressive stretch is a fulcrum, very similar to your own fulcrum stretch in the power assist, but this includes all of the package.

I think I might include a bow and arrow stretch, which will hit the sides, but instead, include all the package to make it expressive bow and arrow stretch, so, stretching the internal penis fully at the sides.

I'm going to throw in some behind the balls jelqs because I think it will help with development in the newer exposed penis by getting more blood pushed through it.
 
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After looking for different exercises that are fulcrum, it appears that the reverse expressive stretch is a fulcrum, very similar to your own fulcrum stretch in the power assist, but this includes all of the package.

I think I might include a bow and arrow stretch, which will hit the sides, but instead, include all the package to make it expressive bow and arrow stretch, so, stretching the internal penis fully at the sides.

I'm going to throw in some behind the balls jelqs because I think it will help with development in the newer exposed penis by getting more blood pushed through it.

I think it’s a brilliant work out for a few reasons. You’re the only one that’s ever gone this far with Expressive stretching. I have a belief that if you focus on accessing internal penis exclusively you may gain quicker. This is totally theoretical because nobody’s done this yet but I have faith that this may turn out to be a very good routine.
 
As soon as i get a new lengthmaster, I will start doing this routine. From what Red has said, I believe he is going to make gains from this routine.

I'm following diligently
 
As soon as i get a new lengthmaster, I will start doing this routine. From what Red has said, I believe he is going to make gains from this routine.

I'm following diligently




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Yep count me in!!
 
March 21st

Was meant to be a rest day, but after getting a boner and having a tug I noticed as already posted that it looked longer.

I did a really hard 20 minutes alternating after one of the bundled expressive stretches and reverse expressive stretches. Used the lengthmaster of course.

First time using this alternating method just to change it up abit. So it went like a stretch lasting for as long as I could doing expressive, than it was quickly into a reverse for a long stretch, back to standard and so on.

Chucked in some bundled reverse, not sure yet if it's better bundled or conventional with that, but certainly when doing the dynamics, it's felt more when not bundled.



Before doing all that, when I was erect, I did a few erect stretches, and erect under the leg pulls.

Testicle massage to finish off, gently rubbing the scrotum.

What are the Reverse expressive stretchings ??
 
I know, the shocking thing is how the time fly's by. I have memories on here, past members come and go, wondering how they went. We had allot of Norwegian and Swedes here like 12 years ago, many men have passed through here.

Now a quick update.

Performed the routine just, and those expressive stretches are intense with capitals. Damn did I fell the stretch, and allot of skin in the perineum region which I assume is good, to be expected for any growth to occur.

I managed 22 minutes constantly pulling with the occasional change of hands and massage to the area for second's before hitting it again.

No wrap was used, just got the entire package and cock through the hole and lay on the bed backwards with legs pressing up.

I had to ease into this but the second half of the set became better, like I got a sweet spot at times.

Didn't need much force pulling the penis itself, once through the lengthmaster, once those legs have it locked in, you can actually ease right off pulling due to how it's all positioned if that makes sense.

I pull the entire package and penis, keeping force on all of it, not just the penis. I feel a more intense stretch.

Performing the reverse kegel, I could sense how tight I had it, knowing the correct force to apply by keeping pressure on it.

Once done I needed a pee. I had a crack at pumping in my mityvac, the slimmer tube of the two I have, the other being a provac.

I used a foreskin ring to keep that back, and it worked brilliant with no swelling to that by the session end.

Pumped for 20 minutes at 5-7hcg but went to 15-20 on occasion for no more than 1 minute.

Maintained a pretty constant erection throughout by visualization of ex partners and sexy women, didn't use adult entertainment.

Once completed it was time to clamp using the cable clamp around the entire package for 1-2 clicks using some jelqs, and that also lasted 20 minutes.

Helishakes finished it off.
Just to clarify. You are putting your nuts and bolt
March 9th

25 minutes expressive stretching using the lengthmaster and keeping my stretches held longer for the duration.

All this is done bundled, also in keeping with what DLD suggested, by maintaining a 1/2 - 1 inch gap from the very base as you stretch, otherwise it does make it harder, you can still stretch, but it's more painful from my own experience, much best giving it a small room and remember to feel with the free hand quickly in the area for a tension in the inner penis ... Should be like a tense cord, the bundled part helps to isolate that, getting less skin stretch.

I'm able, or should I say, just braver to use more force now, both legs pushing right into the lengthmaster and with a free hand pulling the loop towards me for more tension and fuck me does it burn.

Now, last night I didn't sleep well with bad migraines, anyhow I had a good boner at one point. I noticed it looked like my maximum length but I wasn't fully aroused if that makes sense, so I think the body is now adjusting to the stress, and with these nocturnal erections forming out the capillary system for new growth because it looked better to me.

I'm giving it serious thought to adding the DLD blasters with the lengthmaster into this routine to further hit length but from the suspensory ligaments perspective.
Just to clarify. You are putting your nuts and bolt through the LM and clamping on the base and then using the included rope and your legs and feet to pull while you lay on your back? You are doing this bundled?!! I have been doing expressive as part of my LM routine after I am done because that is what it says to do. The rare times I can get a bathmate 5x5x3 in (maybe once every two weeks) I do expressive stretching with that as well and almost feel it more than the LM, which makes me feel like I am doing the LM Expressive wrong. I do about an inch from the base as prescribed by DLD. I sit in a chair and pull at different angles. Being so close clamped to the base when I bundle for expressive I can only get a turn tops before my testes are bundled too. On the back with the legs seems like the intensity one would need and also seems like it would be the best angle. The part that worries me is the nuts through the LM clamp. If this is the case how hard should one clamp down with the whole package? Why do you feel this is a better stretch than say bundling from clamping only the penis close to the base? TIA ?
 
Just to clarify. You are putting your nuts and bolt

Just to clarify. You are putting your nuts and bolt through the LM and clamping on the base and then using the included rope and your legs and feet to pull while you lay on your back? You are doing this bundled?!! I have been doing expressive as part of my LM routine after I am done because that is what it says to do. The rare times I can get a bathmate 5x5x3 in (maybe once every two weeks) I do expressive stretching with that as well and almost feel it more than the LM, which makes me feel like I am doing the LM Expressive wrong. I do about an inch from the base as prescribed by DLD. I sit in a chair and pull at different angles. Being so close clamped to the base when I bundle for expressive I can only get a turn tops before my testes are bundled too. On the back with the legs seems like the intensity one would need and also seems like it would be the best angle. The part that worries me is the nuts through the LM clamp. If this is the case how hard should one clamp down with the whole package? Why do you feel this is a better stretch than say bundling from clamping only the penis close to the base? TIA ?

Hello, thanks for showing an interest in this exercise, it really does have legs.

I'll answer in points, not being rude here but it might make more sense

  • Yes, the entire penis and package goes through the lengthmaster
  • No I dont clamp on the base with anything, can you explain what you mean by clamp? is that cable clamp?
  • No I dont use the rope
  • Yes certainly its done bundled

It will hurt to some degree when using the LM at first, perhaps many dont get to that stage for fear of damage, and I understand but you must feel intense stretch in the area where the perineum is located, and it will hurt at first due to skin stretch, after its not as bad at all.

The BM inner stretch feels different because its not pulling at an angle, just straight out, and in my personal opinion is nowhere near as intense like using the LM, its limited by how much force as its a pump, the vacuum would come loose.


I'm going to have to get a diagram up in the week, because its not the easiest exercise to describe in words is it.

The reverse method I do, is really intense on the suspensory ligament mainly, its the opposite to the standard expressive, and yes a risk with that on the balls, but one has to very easy with it.

Yeah, I will have to get some diagrams and even a new thread for the new exercise.

If you got anymore questions fire away.

The expressive I do, as I understood it from DLD is simply get the cock and balls through the hole, using the lever arm over the legs one uses the legs while pulling down on the penis + package to create the stretch.

I never clamp, perhaps you refer to the attachment piece? no I never use it for that, and would think it pretty difficult when doing expressive.
 
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