Idea for fluid retention

[Average77]

Hello,

I'm a newer member here, but have really gotten in depth with PE over the last several months. I have found something interesting to help avoid fluid retention, but first a little background.

Before starting PE I've made a lot of overall improvements to myself. The biggest one is losing 125 pounds. I lost the majority in 6-7 months by following a very strict ketogenic diet. Basically I eat high healthy fats, moderate protein and no carbs. One of the side effects of keto is that the body rids itself in excess water. When eating carbs the body stores glycogen to burn for energy. Each molecule of glycogen has four molecules of water attached to it. This causes visible water retention in the body, especially in the extremities. Now that I am happy with my weight I cycle on and off of ketosis to maintain, which lead to my discovery.

When following a ketogenic diet I get very little fluid retention in my body, including when doing PE. For those who have issues with fluid retention when pumping, clamping, using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], etc... And could stand to lose a few pounds, or just lead an overall healthy lifestyle I would highly recommend trying out a ketogenic diet. It takes a few days to shed the excess water, but I feel that my PE is much more productive, with pure expansion and very little fluid retention when I am in ketosis. For some of us our life pretty much revolves around the obsession of PE so I figured why not have a diet change as well.

If anyone else would like to try this out, even if for just a few weeks, and provide some feedback that would be awesome. Anywho, I thought I'd share this discovery with the brothers on here since this forum has shared so much with me.

 

[templnite]

Well blood is mostly water so fail

 

[kyomoto]

So basically you eat healthy :/ That's always good if you didn't realize haha.

 

[acromegaly]

So basically you eat healthy :/ That's always good if you didn't realize haha.

ketosis is super low carb like almost no carb only from veggies

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Thanks for the suggestion...I know I could lose a few pounds and maybe it'll help with my fat pad

 

[Munto]

ketosis is super low carb like almost no carb only from veggies

It has to be high-fat, low-moderate protein and the rest from mostly fiber carbs.
Excess protein can cause issues

 

[kyomoto]

ketosis is super low carb like almost no carb only from veggies

Exactly. That's healthy eating. Some on the contrare have different perspectives on what is healthy tho

 

[acromegaly]

Exactly. That's healthy eating. Some on the contrare have different perspectives on what is healthy tho

i dont really think ketosis is healthy you need carbs to build strength or endurance, its useful for guys who need to get shredded buy your body runs on good carbs

 

[DLD]

Hello,

I'm a newer member here, but have really gotten in depth with PE over the last several months. I have found something interesting to help avoid fluid retention, but first a little background.

Before starting PE I've made a lot of overall improvements to myself. The biggest one is losing 125 pounds. I lost the majority in 6-7 months by following a very strict ketogenic diet. Basically I eat high healthy fats, moderate protein and no carbs. One of the side effects of keto is that the body rids itself in excess water. When eating carbs the body stores glycogen to burn for energy. Each molecule of glycogen has four molecules of water attached to it. This causes visible water retention in the body, especially in the extremities. Now that I am happy with my weight I cycle on and off of ketosis to maintain, which lead to my discovery.

When following a ketogenic diet I get very little fluid retention in my body, including when doing PE. For those who have issues with fluid retention when pumping, clamping, using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], etc... And could stand to lose a few pounds, or just lead an overall healthy lifestyle I would highly recommend trying out a ketogenic diet. It takes a few days to shed the excess water, but I feel that my PE is much more productive, with pure expansion and very little fluid retention when I am in ketosis. For some of us our life pretty much revolves around the obsession of PE so I figured why not have a diet change as well.

If anyone else would like to try this out, even if for just a few weeks, and provide some feedback that would be awesome. Anywho, I thought I'd share this discovery with the brothers on here since this forum has shared so much with me.

I wish I had saw this last year but I was able to lose the weight I wanted using a different diet. I really congratulate you on the improvements you have made to yourself and I appreciate sharing how you accomplished this. I did it in a much less healthy way

 

[acromegaly]

I have lost a lot of weight lately just by forcing myself to eat salad everyday and take a probiotic or kambacha drink every single day.

 

[Average77]

i dont really think ketosis is healthy you need carbs to build strength or endurance, its useful for guys who need to get shredded buy your body runs on good carbs

This has been the thought for a while, but there have been some studies to debunk this. The body, once keto adapted runs just as well, and sometimes even better, than when fueled by carbs. The one exception is in explosive action, but here are some links to support the claim.

Ketogenic diet does not affect strength performance in elite artistic gymnasts | Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition | Full Text
Ketogenic diets and physical performance | Nutrition & Metabolism | Full Text
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151117091234.htm

I'm a huge advocate of keto since it has had such a positive impact on my life. In addition to the fat burning potential it also just makes you feel better. My energy is so up and down with carbs, even when eating "healthy" carbs. In ketosis I have great energy that never subsides. The first week or so is a little rough getting adapted, but after that it feels amazing.

 

[Commodore]

carbs are only for bodybuilders and swimmers

 

[kyomoto]

i dont really think ketosis is healthy you need carbs to build strength or endurance, its useful for guys who need to get shredded buy your body runs on good carbs

That's why I say there are different perspectives on what is healthy. I know this vegan that is pure carb maniac maybe you heard of him his name is Harley his channel on youtube is durianrider. This vegan is a carber because they're essential for energy and working out but for the person who doesn't work out you dont need carbs because you'll just not end up using the energy and it'll become forms of fat if not used.

 

[Munto]

You can either burn sugar or fat and fat is a much healthier fuel for your body than sugar is.
Sugar was never meant to be our primal fuel - short-term yes, since you can burn it without using oxygen, but other than that fat is the better fuel.

 

[kyomoto]

You can either burn sugar or fat and fat is a much healthier fuel for your body than sugar is.
Sugar was never meant to be our primal fuel - short-term yes, since you can burn it without using oxygen, but other than that fat is the better fuel.

Sugar from natural resources is healthy you just need to use it at the right time. These carbs are used for quick energy rather than fat which is for long term energy.

 

[Munto]

Sugar from natural resources is healthy you just need to use it at the right time. These carbs are used for quick energy rather than fat which is for long term energy.

I love my fruit and veggies !

At the moment you burn sugar you stop burning fat for a period of time

 

[kyomoto]

I love my fruit and veggies !

At the moment you burn sugar you stop burning fat for a period of time

Exactly That's why some people fast then exercise to burn the "fat" essentially

 

[Munto]

Exactly That's why some people fast then exercise to burn the "fat" essentially

You still can be insulin resistance, so just lowering the sugar isn't the answer, you want those enzymes for fat-burning upregulated

 

[kyomoto]

You still can be insulin resistance, so just lowering the sugar isn't the answer, you want those enzymes for fat-burning upregulated

Yeah but thats if you are insulin resistant. Not everyone is so it just works for those who are eligible. Overall eating well and exercising will ultimately be beneficial

 

[DLD]

What I found, in all seriousness, it had very little to do with what I ate, it had everything to do with being below my daily caloric intake. I mainly ate protein and some dairy and a vegetable drink. It was a very boring year but I did lose the weight.

 

[kyomoto]

What I found, in all seriousness, it had very little to do with what I ate, it had everything to do with being below my daily caloric intake. I mainly ate protein and some dairy and a vegetable drink. It was a very boring year but I did lose the weight.

Thats great. Your caloric intake has a lot to do with gaining and losing weight because we burn calories constantly without thinking and you need to be on a caloric deficit to lose weight

 

[Munto]

What I found, in all seriousness, it had very little to do with what I ate, it had everything to do with being below my daily caloric intake. I mainly ate protein and some dairy and a vegetable drink. It was a very boring year but I did lose the weight.

You have to ask the right question.

If you got cancer or cut off a limb you'll lose weight like crazy, doesn't mean it's healthy, the same goes for eating less, it isn't a healthy thing to do.

 

[templnite]

When mike fasts its because he's a Cristian person and that's why its good for him. You're just saying that to justify your gluttony because you've never known what its like to sacrifice like mike has. That's because you've never needed anything since you live with mom weeb

 

[kyomoto]

You have to ask the right question.

If you got cancer or cut off a limb you'll lose weight like crazy, doesn't mean it's healthy, the same goes for eating less, it isn't a healthy thing to do.

Yes it is healthy to do. Why would it be unhealthy?

 

[DLD]

You have to ask the right question.

If you got cancer or cut off a limb you'll lose weight like crazy, doesn't mean it's healthy, the same goes for eating less, it isn't a healthy thing to do.

I pretty much kept all of my muscle mass, no real loss or gain but if I hit the gym for a month I will get in all back. Healthy or not healthy, I lost the weight and that is what matters most to me, not so much how I did it. I just had my physical and I am in great shape. I think a lot of bullshit is involved with what is good or bad as far as dieting goes, the shit changes every other day, this is good, no, now it is bad. My whole life this diet, that diet and every other had completely contradictory systems and opinions on what is good or bad. All bullshit in my mind, be sure your caloric intake is below your normal threshold and try to keep the diet mainly protein based.

 

[DLD]

When mike fasts its because he's a Cristian person

Yes, this is why I eat once a day. This is for Jesus and the hopes my prayers have greater meaning and outcomes.

 

[kyomoto]

Yes, this is why I eat once a day. This is for Jesus and the hopes my prayers have greater meaning and outcomes.

That's fine. The only thing you want to watch out for is if you fluctuate too much because acid can be a problem.

 

[DLD]

That's fine. The only thing you want to watch out for is if you fluctuate too much because acid can be a problem.

I have done this for many years and have been just fine. I really believe people put too much importance on food, it is simply energy. Americans in particular eat way too much but that is up to them. I will keep my fast in place in love for my Lord.

 

[Munto]

I pretty much kept all of my muscle mass, no real loss or gain but if I hit the gym for a month I will get in all back. Healthy or not healthy, I lost the weight and that is what matters most to me, not so much how I did it. I just had my physical and I am in great shape. I think a lot of bullshit is involved with what is good or bad as far as dieting goes, the shit changes every other day, this is good, no, now it is bad. My whole life this diet, that diet and every other had completely contradictory systems and opinions on what is good or bad. All bullshit in my mind, be sure your caloric intake is below your normal threshold and try to keep the diet mainly protein based.

It's a total myth, you will never really figure out how much you really ate.
And you do not want to lose weight, and you cannot just lose weight, you want to lose fat and the only way to do that is to burn it.
That's controlled by hormones and not by how much you ate, your body is a brilliant biological system not a scale

"Health and life span are determined by the proportion of fat versus sugar people burn throughout their lifetime and so the more fat that one burns as fuel, the healthier a person will be, and the more likely he or she will live a long time" - Ron Rosedale

 

[DLD]

It's a total myth, you will never really figure out how much you really ate.
And you do not want to lose weight, and you cannot just lose weight, you want to lose fat and the only way to do that is to burn it.
That's controlled by hormones and not by how much you ate, your body is a brilliant biological system not a scale

"Health and life span are determined by the proportion of fat versus sugar people burn throughout their lifetime and so the more fat that one burns as fuel, the healthier a person will be, and the more likely he or she will live a long time" - Ron Rosedale

I must burn all fat, I am completely muscular, I could tone up a bit but pretty much muscular. If you look at the BangBros. pictures of me you will see me at 145, too thin, but all muscle. I think thing the change in my metabolism is to account for this. I noticed as I lost the weight my energy levels increased and I was much more active. As time progresses this becomes faster and faster and that is where I do not want to go. I would like to be 175, with minimal body fat. But, believe me, I understand what everyone is trying to get across to me, but you know I have never been conventional.

 

[kak03]

I think one thing that is very important to remember is that we´re all different. Ketosis can be amazing and it has helped many people. Some people will thrive on this style of eating. However most people wont. The success stories you hear are from those who thrive on it. Some people run very well on carbs. Some people really dont. There are studies that show ketosis is amazing for various reasons and there are also studies that show the complete opposite. Quite frankly there isnt much valid research either way so personal experience is what really matters. I´m not going to search for any studies to link to though.

We´re all different and there isnt one answer to what is healthy and not. I personally run very well on carbs.

 

[kyomoto]

I have done this for many years and have been just fine. I really believe people put too much importance on food, it is simply energy. Americans in particular eat way too much but that is up to them. I will keep my fast in place in love for my Lord.

I assume you fast a few times a week. But I'm saying don't do a fast like every other day because that really affects your health in your stomach to fluctuate acid. But doing it as you say you will be fine so don't worry. I encourage you to fast if this helps you.

People see fasting as unhealthy but in reality it's healthy. Hunger is actually a mental construct of addiction to food. You should see the different portion sizes in other countries compared to the US. You can see that different amount of eating really matters.

 

[acromegaly]

Yes, this is why I eat once a day. This is for Jesus and the hopes my prayers have greater meaning and outcomes.

yup i started eating only once a day as well (i have lots of vitamins and supplements throughout the day though)... some people call it the warrior diet, it helps boost your natural testosterone and growth hormones. you still need to get protien and veggies though it doesnt mean just binge eat

 

[acromegaly]

I think one thing that is very important to remember is that we´re all different. Ketosis can be amazing and it has helped many people. Some people will thrive on this style of eating. However most people wont. The success stories you hear are from those who thrive on it. Some people run very well on carbs. Some people really dont. There are studies that show ketosis is amazing for various reasons and there are also studies that show the complete opposite. Quite frankly there isnt much valid research either way so personal experience is what really matters. I´m not going to search for any studies to link to though.

We´re all different and there isnt one answer to what is healthy and not. I personally run very well on carbs.

humans are a survivor animal, you would be amazed what a human can "live" on. it doesn't necessarily mean it is optimal for gains.

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same when vegans say ok im vegan bla bla bla. i dont talk shit, but i know its not sustainable for most people

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

humans are a survivor animal, you would be amazed what a human can "live" on. it doesn't necessarily mean it is optimal for gains. yeah i think the interesting n intriguing part is when someone is getting bigger and having a bad diet at the same time..Would be great to see if someone whit a bad diet can get a bigger penis.....

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same when vegans say ok im vegan bla bla bla. i dont talk shit, but i know its not sustainable for most people

yep its not IMHO that kind of stuff its not sustainable at all, veggies are great but they wont be eating veggies for the rest of their lives, is a lie and almost impossible IMO....

 

[Munto]

yep its not IMHO that kind of stuff its not sustainable at all, veggies are great but they wont be eating veggies for the rest of their lives, is a lie and almost impossible IMO....

There's a lot of confusion between the best diet and a better diet.

The standard diet ist just so unhealthy, it doesn't take much to improve it.

Again, you must ask the right question, and when you do, you come to pretty similar conclusions that I come too.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

better diet in this case is key,But whod have the will time patience motivation to follow a healthy diet.Is a good thing to do,But that kind of stuff is boring.

Eating fruits,veggies,drinking enough water,exercising,etc can be a useful solution IMO....

 

[kyomoto]

There's a lot of confusion between the best diet and a better diet.

The standard diet ist just so unhealthy, it doesn't take much to improve it.

Again, you must ask the right question, and when you do, you come to pretty similar conclusions that I come too.

I believe as long as you feel good about your health then you'll do fine

 

[huge-girth]

Hello,

I'm a newer member here, but have really gotten in depth with PE over the last several months. I have found something interesting to help avoid fluid retention, but first a little background.

Before starting PE I've made a lot of overall improvements to myself. The biggest one is losing 125 pounds. I lost the majority in 6-7 months by following a very strict ketogenic diet. Basically I eat high healthy fats, moderate protein and no carbs. One of the side effects of keto is that the body rids itself in excess water. When eating carbs the body stores glycogen to burn for energy. Each molecule of glycogen has four molecules of water attached to it. This causes visible water retention in the body, especially in the extremities. Now that I am happy with my weight I cycle on and off of ketosis to maintain, which lead to my discovery.

When following a ketogenic diet I get very little fluid retention in my body, including when doing PE. For those who have issues with fluid retention when pumping, clamping, using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], etc... And could stand to lose a few pounds, or just lead an overall healthy lifestyle I would highly recommend trying out a ketogenic diet. It takes a few days to shed the excess water, but I feel that my PE is much more productive, with pure expansion and very little fluid retention when I am in ketosis. For some of us our life pretty much revolves around the obsession of PE so I figured why not have a diet change as well.

If anyone else would like to try this out, even if for just a few weeks, and provide some feedback that would be awesome. Anywho, I thought I'd share this discovery with the brothers on here since this forum has shared so much with me.

PE is now a part of my life but I'm still struggling with my diet. Please come and tell me more about the diet.