I started with manual exercises and had no gains. I moved on to hanging after 4 months, and I started out with no consistancy. After 5 months of hanging, but not as much as I wanted because of school and other things I decided to switch up my routine. I been doing BTC for 3 weeks because it was recommended from Bib. This week was my most intense workout with 10 sets mon, 7 tue, 8 wed, 7 thur, 6 fri, 4 sat. I felt fatigue everyday after this hard work. I measured today and I hit a quarter of an inch. This week I'm going to hit even more sets and go for some big gains the next couple months, thanks to E for his inspiration.