Hello! New Joiner, 6 months of PE

[bemorethanbig]

This is a remarkable journey. I don't see it here but didn't the doctor tell you, you must do pumping for a year or 2 after the p-shot?

 

[DLD]

Deep tissue massage is actually used since the ancient days by kings and emperors to increase their virility by their maids, mistresses and wives. PE came a long, long, long way. Back then, they don't have effective worldwide materials like today. Today, we have everything via the internet, from ordering to how to use. Take advantage of it. We'll assist with the formulation if you need it. This where you must discover your own combo since it may not be effective for others, and others' combos may not be effective for you.

Every Brother in the Brotherhood should be engaged in deep tissue massage. It helps not only healing but growth. I also highly recommend doing the lig and ball stretch as this will also help with growth and healing but it also helps with penis hang. Your flaccid size will increase at an amazing pace.

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

This is a remarkable journey. I don't see it here but didn't the doctor tell you, you must do pumping for a year or 2 after the p-shot?

My doctor did mention that pumping can be an effective tool for some patients, but didnt really put me on a formal plan involving pumping or anything. I last took a p-shot two months ago and probably wont go for further treatments at this time, but curious to hear if anyone had different reactions when paired with pumping.

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

On a different note, would it be beneficial to use a cockring around the base of the glans to promote head expansion? Even for 1-2 hours following my length routines.

Trying to get my glans back in good shape while im also feeling odd sensations. More specifically, ive felt some subtle but strange aches within my glans at random parts of the day, which either occurs on its own or when lightly touching it.

About 3-4 days ago i tried out a light deep tissue massage on the underside of my shaft and on my glans. Following this, my glans feel slightly more limp when flaccid until i try to get myself erect. On one other occasion my foreskin appearance appeared discoloured (not purple but almost pale with less blood). Just confirming if this is supposed to be a healing phase or something more concerning, morning wood went down a tiny bit over the last 2 days.

 

[oldandlively]

My doctor did mention that pumping can be an effective tool for some patients, but didnt really put me on a formal plan involving pumping or anything. I last took a p-shot two months ago and probably wont go for further treatments at this time, but curious to hear if anyone had different reactions when paired with pumping.

I believe brother @kriskros went a few further shots himself. I may be wrong.

 

[oldandlively]

On a different note, would it be beneficial to use a cockring around the base of the glans to promote head expansion? Even for 1-2 hours following my length routines.

The glans won't benefit but the entire penis will. There is not extra internal expansion like when you do the girth routine.

Trying to get my glans back in good shape while im also feeling odd sensations. More specifically, ive felt some subtle but strange aches within my glans at random parts of the day, which either occurs on its own or when lightly touching it.

I believe you feel a tingling, sometimes sensitive, sometimes like a vibrating sensation? That is you body sending pulses to check nerve health as your entire penis elongates.

About 3-4 days ago i tried out a light deep tissue massage on the underside of my shaft and on my glans. Following this, my glans feel slightly more limp when flaccid until i try to get myself erect. On one other occasion my foreskin appearance appeared discoloured (not purple but almost pale with less blood). Just confirming if this is supposed to be a healing phase or something more concerning, morning wood went down a tiny bit over the last 2 days.

If deep tissues cannot get the blood in as single pressurized finger compresses the blood vessels, use open palms and perform a downward massage in warmth or warm oil to equalize the tension across the surface, returning all vessels to their shapes, reestablishing the optimal blood flow.

 

[kriskros]

I believe brother @kriskros went a few further shots himself. I may be wrong.

Pshots are not meant to give any length or girth. I have read all the posts here and I guarantee that the increase in girth he saw was the pshot staying there and his true erection girth.
To increase girth with pshots you must do pshots each month for at least 6 months and pump daily 20 mins x 2 (morning and night) with progressive pulse pumping but first you must do SRT or else no gains at all.
You can have the same if not better results with 5x5x3.
combining srt = ultimate growth plan.
Also don't get so much addicted with measuring. You lost then gained then lost. The trick here is to be consistent and just do your work. That's it.

 

[DLD]

Pshots are not meant to give any length or girth. I have read all the posts here and I guarantee that the increase in girth he saw was the pshot staying there and his true erection girth.
To increase girth with pshots you must do pshots each month for at least 6 months and pump daily 20 mins x 2 (morning and night) with progressive pulse pumping but first you must do SRT or else no gains at all.
You can have the same if not better results with 5x5x3.
combining srt = ultimate growth plan.
Also don't get so much addicted with measuring. You lost then gained then lost. The trick here is to be consistent and just do your work. That's it.

That's right! SRT is the way to go or should be the ultimate goal in growth for all Brothers. I also agree that we should not be measuring all the time we should do an official 3 months measurement. What you can measure is after a girth session each time you pump or do girth work to be sure we are seeing growth. Also we should do the same with flaccid stretched length after every stretching routine. These will give you the ability to increase or add exercises to continue growing if you gains have slowed.

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

I believe you feel a tingling, sometimes sensitive, sometimes like a vibrating sensation? That is you body sending pulses to check nerve health as your entire penis elongates.

Hmm sounds about right. It's not like there's pain coming from the veins as there is usually a stingy sensation. But yeah perhaps this could be a sign of the glans healing (or growing). Even felt the same sensation this morning for a few minutes (while wrapped). Hopefully it's safe for me to continue pumping while experiencing this.

Vit D? D2? D3? D3 is more effective over D2.

Oh this is D3, in capsule form.

 

[DLD]

Hmm sounds about right. It's not like there's pain coming from the veins as there is usually a stingy sensation. But yeah perhaps this could be a sign of the glans healing (or growing). Even felt the same sensation this morning for a few minutes (while wrapped). Hopefully it's safe for me to continue pumping while experiencing this.

Oh this is D3, in capsule form.

That's normal and expected. The tingling sensation is something i have everytime i do certain exercise especially with the LengthMaster.

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

Ok sadly ive gone back in 0.5 inches in length again...
So far I've only used the same PE routines for length this whole time but have only used girthwork for approx. a month hoping i would be able to grow in length and girth simultaneously. But it seems that ive still had a drawback in length.
I couldnt imagine this extent of girthwork causing such a shortage in length. It seems that im unable to cement my length even after making gains. That being said, perhaps ill have to stop all girthwork and continue my current length routines?

 

[oldandlively]

Ok sadly ive gone back in 0.5 inches in length again...
So far I've only used the same PE routines for length this whole time but have only used girthwork for approx. a month hoping i would be able to grow in length and girth simultaneously. But it seems that ive still had a drawback in length.
I couldnt imagine this extent of girthwork causing such a shortage in length. It seems that im unable to cement my length even after making gains. That being said, perhaps ill have to stop all girthwork and continue my current length routines?

Now, here's the question, have you keep your penile shaft elongated using either a loose sleeve or wrap? Girthwork is great for girth, but there's a slight radeoff for length. However, it can be stopped if you keep the penile shaft elongated while you're working on your girth. Our brother @TCDreamer provided great reinforced evidence on this.

Let us know on this matter, and we'll proceed with the next methods of approach for you.

 

[TCDreamer]

Ok sadly ive gone back in 0.5 inches in length again...
So far I've only used the same PE routines for length this whole time but have only used girthwork for approx. a month hoping i would be able to grow in length and girth simultaneously. But it seems that ive still had a drawback in length.
I couldnt imagine this extent of girthwork causing such a shortage in length. It seems that im unable to cement my length even after making gains. That being said, perhaps ill have to stop all girthwork and continue my current length routines?

Just my two cents here. IF you are pumping and feel an immediate odd feeling of pressure or slight pain, stop!!! And I mean, Stop! Full stop. Gently massage the snake and get some lengthy (30-45 minutes continuous) warm wrap therapy going. There is some “theories” out there about length work before girth work. Here’s another two cents:
I start and finish every, and I mean every, PE sessions with minimum 10 minutes warm up and warm down. I find the best is wrapping electric heating pad around my unit. Just works for me. Then I do about 10 minutes of either 70% erect Jelqs (slow and easy) and then go 100% erect for my curve bend correction. After that I masturbate until complete rock hard erection and then move onto my @DLD SSJ’s with MitiVac and then nice focused stroke session and masturbation for about 20 minutes (with NO Finish! And that also is awesome as you visualize the increase in size and beefiness just playing with it!) and then a 10 minute wrap warm down and into my Silisleeve or silicone sleeve for ADS and anti-turtle and healing in elongation state. Pretty much spot on

 

[DLD]

Just my two cents here. IF you are pumping and feel an immediate odd feeling of pressure or slight pain, stop!!! And I mean, Stop! Full stop. Gently massage the snake and get some lengthy (30-45 minutes continuous) warm wrap therapy going. There is some “theories” out there about length work before girth work. Here’s another two cents:
I start and finish every, and I mean every, PE sessions with minimum 10 minutes warm up and warm down. I find the best is wrapping electric heating pad around my unit. Just works for me. Then I do about 10 minutes of either 70% erect Jelqs (slow and easy) and then go 100% erect for my curve bend correction. After that I masturbate until complete rock hard erection and then move onto my @DLD SSJ’s with MitiVac and then nice focused stroke session and masturbation for about 20 minutes (with NO Finish! And that also is awesome as you visualize the increase in size and beefiness just playing with it!) and then a 10 minute wrap warm down and into my Silisleeve or silicone sleeve for ADS and anti-turtle and healing in elongation state. Pretty much spot on

You're doing everything you need. Thanks for the post as many brothers will benefit from it. Very proud of you and may God bless you every step of the way!

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

Ok so just to follow up from my last update, it seems that I have regained my 0.5 inches in length. The morning after I noticed my length had changed, I was going through my 10min MOSRED session + basic stretching. It was until I wrapped myself that I noticed my size miraculously came back. Yes I'm happy that things turned around positively in a 12hr timeframe but just figuring out why these changes have happened and why so sudden.

*sidenote, only posting days later as I've been keeping a close eye on any random changes. It seems that I'm going through a weird phase where shrinkage could occur any time of the day.

I wonder what may have catalysed this change so in future I don't go backwards in length all of a sudden. If anything, I've utilised girth training for approx. 1 month (pumping) as well as testing manual girth exercises for a few days. Could it be that penis cells have likely triggered a tug from my length gains (the same way length has taken away from girth)? I would imagine that both length and girth done simultaneously wouldn't reverse any gains.

Is there a possibility that there is a lack of new cells being utilised towards creating more tissue in preparation of new gains? Rather than shapeshifting how my penis currently looks due to a lower volume of cells? (Idk if this is scientifically correct but perhaps this could provide more clarity about how new growths happen).

I have taken a break from pumping and I'm looking to stick with a length-only approach to see if this works better for me at this stage. Yes I wish I could incorporate girth/EQ again but it sucks knowing that this would costs me my length gains.

Also...wanted to ask how effective erect stretches are? It's said that they help 'cement' gains but just wanted more insight on what the long-term benefits are. Any other tactics on 'cementing' gains would be greatly appreciated.

Girthwork is great for girth, but there's a slight radeoff for length. However, it can be stopped if you keep the penile shaft elongated while you're working on your girth.

Any advice on this for future reference? Is this suggesting that we incorporate sleeves during pumping?

 

[oldandlively]

Ok so just to follow up from my last update, it seems that I have regained my 0.5 inches in length. The morning after I noticed my length had changed, I was going through my 10min MOSRED session + basic stretching. It was until I wrapped myself that I noticed my size miraculously came back. Yes I'm happy that things turned around positively in a 12hr timeframe but just figuring out why these changes have happened and why so sudden.

This is quite a common development where your length tends to "disappear" or "loss" when you pursue length or girth, but forgot to either wrap or keep things elongated during rest phases. I'll explain that a little later. But the key is to keep it elongated as much as you can to keep the tunica and surrounding tissues to grow.

*sidenote, only posting days later as I've been keeping a close eye on any random changes. It seems that I'm going through a weird phase where shrinkage could occur any time of the day.

This is a common phase where your body detected anomoly and placed it into preservation mode. You have to reprogram the mind to not enter the preservation mode by doing progressive intensity where the body can adopt (not adapt). I hate using muscle building since men don't have breasts to play with, but as we force our hard tissues to grow, so do the softer tissues on top of the hard tissues. If you grow your hard tissues too fast, your soft tissues can't keep up with the flexibility and constantly place you in a this strange phase of pains. Your body just wants to curl up to ease up the pain. This is what your penis is doing.

I wonder what may have catalysed this change so in future I don't go backwards in length all of a sudden. If anything, I've utilised girth training for approx. 1 month (pumping) as well as testing manual girth exercises for a few days. Could it be that penis cells have likely triggered a tug from my length gains (the same way length has taken away from girth)? I would imagine that both length and girth done simultaneously wouldn't reverse any gains.

Is there a possibility that there is a lack of new cells being utilised towards creating more tissue in preparation of new gains? Rather than shapeshifting how my penis currently looks due to a lower volume of cells? (Idk if this is scientifically correct but perhaps this could provide more clarity about how new growths happen).

No, I'm seeing your cells are growing perfectly fine, but your tunica may be one of those hard to break. This is more important for you to soften the tissues down constantly, especially warming the tissues up while twisting the penis from side to side (contortion force or lateral traction force) to break the tissues down while the tissues are warmed up. This is where you may need to employ both the Length Master for mechanical assist tissue softening, or anything similar to the lateral force assist, and pull on the penis just enough to also force longitudinally to further soften the tough tunica.

What does all this means? A quick 5 to 10 minutes length work before girth work. If you don't want spend money on mechanical assist device, you can use DLD Busters (look under the Media DVD instruction section) to soften it all up.

I have taken a break from pumping and I'm looking to stick with a length-only approach to see if this works better for me at this stage. Yes I wish I could incorporate girth/EQ again but it sucks knowing that this would costs me my length gains.

Also...wanted to ask how effective erect stretches are? It's said that they help 'cement' gains but just wanted more insight on what the long-term benefits are. Any other tactics on 'cementing' gains would be greatly appreciated.

Quite effectively to maintain girth while pursuing length. As you increase the intensity each and every period of your routines, the girth will expand close to if not equal to the length. But in your case, you may need mechanical assist more than manual expressive work.

Any advice on this for future reference? Is this suggesting that we incorporate sleeves during pumping?

Don't use sleeve during pumping unless you're looking to increase the expansion size limit. Since you're chasing after tunica softening and lengthening, you definiely need tunica related routines. Incremental traction force bundled stretches for 5 to 10 minutes, or even up to 15 minutes, to loosen up the tissues. This is where you need to constantly keep the tissues soften and warm at all time. Try this for an entire month. You practically see the evidence with the MoSRed. Your body respond to heat, and of course, red light therapy. Now, use the heat and red light healing to further keep the tissues in a malleable state at all time during your stretches. There is no compromise to this. When you pump, any time it's possible, use warm towards comfortable hot temperature. If you pump air, keep the heater running and blow warm air to your penis. I hate having my crotch constantly warm, but when you are forced to have malleability because of your condition, you have no choice. All of us have that strange phase where the body needs that extra push using heat to step into the next phase of growth.

Now, for the elongation maintenance, this is just me, but my suggestion to you is not to use wrap but to use a sleeve instead. Remember how we discusss using TheraBand at each end to create traction for the sleeve? Use that method. If your penis gets cold, add a warm wrap layer or just wear briefs. Keep the penis close to the body to use the heat around the crotch for warm. But keep that penis elongated as much as possible, and as long in the longest flaccid state length as you can. You will be pushing the traction force around 1kg. Use 1kg setting for a few weeks, and slowly, once the penis adopts the tension, increase 50g per week. Max total traction at 1.8kg. This will push the tunica to reach the next phase of growth without fighting back.

 

[kriskros]

@oldandlively quick question:: can you kegel to make penis fully engorged and then add clamp, and release kegel?

 

[oldandlively]

@oldandlively quick question:: can you kegel to make penis fully engorged and then add clamp, and release kegel?

When you try to get your penis erected, you are engaging kegel. But you can also perform kegel without having to get erected. So, let's clear things up first. Are you getting an erection to get blood in, sounds like you are, or are you just kegeling?

The question is strange, but there's a hidden issue behind that. When you get an erection, you're pumping a certain load of nitric oxide and use up free testosterone to get your penis nice and hard to get the blood volume into your penis. Kegeling only engage the PC muscles without the blood flow. BUT! The trick not to overspent your nitric oxide and free testosterone is to first perform a full 2 to 5 seconds reverse kegel to build up the blood volume at the base of the penis, and quick 1 to 2 second burst of kegel to force that blood volume into your penis.

As for the clamping method, do make sure to use the soft clamping, or restrictive blood flow, approach. No hard clamping device I assume.

 

[kriskros]

Can someone explain whats a hard clamping device?

 

[oldandlively]

Can someone explain whats a hard clamping device?

It can be any device used for preventinf the blood from leaving the penis. A great example is the cable clamp. The next is pipe clamp. The common ones are the safer incontinence medical clamp.

 

[DLD]

Clamping is always a dangerous option. The only Clamping device that does not cause issues is the LengthMaster due to the way the clamp is set up allowing some blood flow from the sides. I have never experienced someone getting thrombosis using the LM but I have heard of many cases of thrombosis using clamps.

 

[kriskros]

Didn't know medical clamps exists. So out of the blue searched one. You mean that something like this Pacey Cuff Ultra - CathetersPLUS is okay ? Can you give me an example ?

 

[kriskros]

Clamping is always a dangerous option. The only Clamping device that does not cause issues is the LengthMaster due to the way the clamp is set up allowing some blood flow from the sides. I have never experienced someone getting thrombosis using the LM but I have heard of many cases of thrombosis using clamps.

I agree it's a dangerous game. Why someone would clamp with LM ? You mean while stretching ?

 

[DLD]

I agree it's a dangerous game. Why someone would clamp with LM ? You mean while stretching ?

No. The clamp is on the lengthmaster it is where you attach the penis to the LengthMaster.

 

[oldandlively]

Didn't know medical clamps exists. So out of the blue searched one. You mean that something like this Pacey Cuff Ultra - CathetersPLUS is okay ? Can you give me an example ?

This one places pressures on the urethra and spongiosum that surrounds the urethra. That product is misleading, but works to prevent urine from leaking.

What the modified clamps do is to squeeze both sides of the penis, putting pressurs on the cavernosa blood vessels.

Some medical devices for ED does this just like that Cuff Ultra device, but it places dual squeeze on the sides rather than the bottom.

In the past, the crazy people like us use this.


We modified it with safety precautionin mind by using soft medical foam, with clamp time lmits. But those were the desperate time where we lacked PE tools.

The question you raised where why anyone uses clamping for the LM3. No one. It's for pumping. Normally, a penis ring, a pump cylinder donut, or a short cutout segment of a penis sleeve just to hold onto the blood a bit more. The approach is to slow the blood down from leaving the penis during pumping through restrictive blood flow. If they wear a device to stop their blood from leaving out competely, that's constrictive blood flow. Your penis can and will over expand and you can suffer a blood vessel blowout inside your penis. I lost couunt to how many cases we dealt with because of this.

 

[kriskros]

OK I see
Be it this cable clamp you showed, or using sleeves, or using sleeves and a cable clamp atop, penis loses erection which means it is not 100% restricted am I right ?
Also, if you do clamp with the cable you mentioned above, and you allow blood to come in and out is it still clamping? If you allow blood comming in can you kegel to push more ? (I am talking about not restricting clamp)

 

[oldandlively]

OK I see
Be it this cable clamp you showed, or using sleeves, or using sleeves and a cable clamp atop, penis loses erection which means it is not 100% restricted am I right ?

Let's clear up the misconception at this point. Let me know if the translation doesn't go through. I'll keep it simple.

An erection is when your penis is hard from a state where the penis is fully engorged, excited, and naturally maintaining its harden state without any assistant from any device. During an erection, the penis is filled with 100% of its storage volume in the cavernosa and spongiosum. Let's call this "full blood volume" for now.

Now, let's bring in the clamping device. The clamping device is used at the base of the penis, trapped the full blood volume in the penis through total constriction. No blood is leaving teh penis. HOWEVER, your penis doesn´t need to have an erection at this point. The penis can go limp or return to flaccid state. Even when it is limp or flaccid, the trapped blood volume is still at 100% volume.

Also, if you do clamp with the cable you mentioned above, and you allow blood to come in and out is it still clamping?

Yes, itś still clamping. If you allow the blood to flow in and out using adjustable tension, you are no longer using ¨constritive¨but ¨restrictive¨blood flow. This is where we want to be. Restrictive.

If you allow blood comming in can you kegel to push more ? (I am talking about not restricting clamp)

Yes, you can. I didn´t throw away my mdified cable clamp because I can still use it for the same purpose youŕe talking about. I also still use it to do my SSJ to relieve my fingers and wrists fatigue. Imagine you have to do SSJ for an hour. My carpal tunnel will flare up.

 

[kriskros]

@oldandlively ssj for an hour ? You are a hero

 

[oldandlively]

@oldandlively ssj for an hour ? You are a hero

No, SSJ has many levels. If I'm going to sit around with the wife with nothing to do, while she watches her shows and playing on her phone, I might as well do my PE.

 

[kriskros]

Ok I would like to share my experience.
I had sex with my wife. She said that my penis is bigger but I told her that I Guarantee that it is not.
I am measuring my penis, its always the same. She says, it feels it bigger.
Can someone explain?

 

[oldandlively]

Ok I would like to share my experience.
I had sex with my wife. She said that my penis is bigger but I told her that I Guarantee that it is not.
I am measuring my penis, its always the same. She says, it feels it bigger.
Can someone explain?

Yep. It's very simple explanation actually. I'll take myself as an example.

In the vaginal lining, the nerve concentration is more than the penile nerve branches covering our entire shaft. The vaginal nerves are more concentrated in the clitoris, but the same branches are covered all over the inner wall. When we perform our PE, we think only about the sizes in girth and length that force the vagina to feel full or to push it past the limit. That's not true. As I mentioned many times before, even if your penis increased by just 0.5cm in girth, they will notice. Length, not so much. Why? When the vaginal wall tightens down during arousal, the nerve branches come into contact with the shaft, while the clitoris is also being stimulated at the same time. The signal sent from each stroke is literally calculated by the brain. Any extra dimension, be the girth or length, is taking into account as the vaginal wall attempts to extract the semen from the male's sexual organ by providing any additional stimulation to excite him.

In PE, you have to account for more than just the width and length of your penis. You need to keep in mind the EQ quality as well. The vagina wall detects either the more solid or softer feel of the penis, and fasten itself based on the needs for the stimulation required. This is talked about so much in biological evolution that I got sick and tired of hearing the new researches published the data as half the rediscovered info. But what you gents don't realize that during a female' hyper-excitement, her vaginal wall tighten up to the maximum and the cervix pushes down closer to the penile glans automatically so the cervix can receive the semen in the collective pool. We recognize this area is the end of the vaginal wall, or bottoming. But in reality, it's just a collection pool for the cervix to dip into so it can pull up the semen. During this period, the female's brain can sense and calculate every little millimeter of your penile size, be the length or girth. It can even tell the bulging vein and the pulsation of the penis when it's ready to ejaculate.

So, for her to say, "it feels it's bigger", she's not wrong. She probably sense your EQ improved, the penetration stimulation is harder, and overall feeling of being "larger", on top of the increased size.

 

[DLD]

 

[kk-Finisher-bb]

Hey all! Here to provide an update and seek further guidance for my PE routines.
One of my major takeaways since my last update was to change my PE routines to avoid plateaus and encourage new growth. My main routine consisted of bundled BTC stretches using the Lengthmaster across two 20min sessions.

To change things up, I have tweaked my stretches:
In a kneeling position, I pull out my bundled penis at a low angle (approx. 90 degrees) and then gradually pull my penis further up between the cheeks at a higher angle. Using 40sec intervals now and gradually increasing intensity during each set.

So I have been following these stretches for approx. 4 weeks. No actual perm growth however I've noticed my elongated length has temporarily increased by 0.25" inches, even up to 0.5" inches at times. Without taking actual measurements I'm able to see the temp length increase judging on the way my penis looks in its wrap.

More importantly, I've been able to feel significant soreness in my inner penis a bit more often (sometimes ligs too) since tweaking my stretches. I'll get those deep aches at random times of the day, which seems promising as this is supposed to be the sweet spot for growth.

While these are positive signs of a good workout, I can't help but wonder if my routine needs changing again? Since I haven't seen any perm growth in the past few weeks. Yes the workouts do feel effective but I'm not sure if I'm close to hitting a plateau.

So yeah, just here to see if there's any room for improvement, perhaps I can increase the duration of my sets again? Longer stretches? I tested some Power Assist stretches a few times before (only following the instructions pictured on the LM3 shopping link) but not sure if there are any other demonstrations? Just wanna make sure I'm feeling the correct type of aching sensation, while avoiding any risk of injury.

I've also noticed on a few other threads that people have used hanging to break plateau? I was under the impression that this exercise is more risky and could potentially lead to injury? Any further advice on the above exercises would be greatly appreciated.

Sidenote, there was a time where I accidentally slept with a silicone sleeve on (only a loose sleeve) but didn't seem to cause any harm. I noticed that my flaccid state was lengthened by another 0.25" inch while worn. Would there be any benefits incorporating a loose sleeve while asleep? Could this fall into the SRT theory as there is an extended time spent healing? I'm able to have casual erections while wearing it, and I'm even able to go to the toilet with it on. I know it's not recommended to wear actual PE gear (e.g extenders) during sleep so I've avoided this but this seems to be a bit more of a comfortable and safer alternative.

 

[oldandlively]

Hey all! Here to provide an update and seek further guidance for my PE routines.
One of my major takeaways since my last update was to change my PE routines to avoid plateaus and encourage new growth. My main routine consisted of bundled BTC stretches using the Lengthmaster across two 20min sessions.

To change things up, I have tweaked my stretches:
In a kneeling position, I pull out my bundled penis at a low angle (approx. 90 degrees) and then gradually pull my penis further up between the cheeks at a higher angle. Using 40sec intervals now and gradually increasing intensity during each set.

So I have been following these stretches for approx. 4 weeks. No actual perm growth however I've noticed my elongated length has temporarily increased by 0.25" inches, even up to 0.5" inches at times. Without taking actual measurements I'm able to see the temp length increase judging on the way my penis looks in its wrap.

More importantly, I've been able to feel significant soreness in my inner penis a bit more often (sometimes ligs too) since tweaking my stretches. I'll get those deep aches at random times of the day, which seems promising as this is supposed to be the sweet spot for growth.

While these are positive signs of a good workout, I can't help but wonder if my routine needs changing again? Since I haven't seen any perm growth in the past few weeks. Yes the workouts do feel effective but I'm not sure if I'm close to hitting a plateau.

Change of routines is merely the different addition of angles of attack. For example, since you have been doing BTC, remove a few minutes of the BTC and use the minutes to pull sideways, and upwards, or even outwards away from your body while bundled. A simple minute of rotary crank (move around your crotch in a clock rotation like a helicopter blade) will create that variation as well.

So yeah, just here to see if there's any room for improvement, perhaps I can increase the duration of my sets again? Longer stretches? I tested some Power Assist stretches a few times before (only following the instructions pictured on the LM3 shopping link) but not sure if there are any other demonstrations? Just wanna make sure I'm feeling the correct type of aching sensation, while avoiding any risk of injury.

As long as the achiness is present without the puinching, sharp, or pulsing pains, you are golden.

I've also noticed on a few other threads that people have used hanging to break plateau? I was under the impression that this exercise is more risky and could potentially lead to injury? Any further advice on the above exercises would be greatly appreciated.

Hanging is like traction with extender. If I have to hang, I rather be mobile and use extended if there's a budget for it. It's one of the same.

Sidenote, there was a time where I accidentally slept with a silicone sleeve on (only a loose sleeve) but didn't seem to cause any harm. I noticed that my flaccid state was lengthened by another 0.25" inch while worn. Would there be any benefits incorporating a loose sleeve while asleep?

I've done it a few times. What worries us is the inability to monitor severe conditions when things go sideways. We tend to go into deep sleep and our body cannot detect the warning signs fast enough. However, many with penile fractures do wear corrective devices loosely as a brace while sleeping. If you thing you can do so safely, go for it.

Could this fall into the SRT theory as there is an extended time spent healing? I'm able to have casual erections while wearing it, and I'm even able to go to the toilet with it on. I know it's not recommended to wear actual PE gear (e.g extenders) during sleep so I've avoided this but this seems to be a bit more of a comfortable and safer alternative.

Only if you know you can do it safely with every precaution in mind.

 

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Be so careful not to cause injury while sleeping. I personally would never do any pe while sleeping. the only thing I can say if you are going to do pe while sleeping, is use an ACE bandage to do a light wrap. This is the only safe thing I know about that can be used while sleeping

 

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I rather use a loose penis sleeve with TheraBand end points for traction, or to be ultra safe, just a single traction point at the base of the penis while the sleeve pushes against the base of the penis. When you move around at night, like me with restless legs or my dog and wife try to kick me off the bed, the flexible bandage can tighten up through movements. Sleeve remains static.