Exclusive 5x5x3 MityVac/SSJ girth workout ? MONSTER GIRTH!
@oldandlively do you know if doing 5x5x3, 3 times a week actually helps on something or not? Just 3 times a week.
Also can you tell me your opinion on this please: Optimus Red Triple-Action Erection Enhancer
Also can you tell me your opinion on this please: Optimus Red Triple-Action Erection Enhancer
3 time is good. 4 is better. 6 times a week with a day rest is best. But everyone is truly different. Some response better with a 3 on 1 off. Some response with 4 on, 2 off. Mine is going into a spurt growth with 5 on, 1 off. Your body also grows according to the intensity for each routine set. This includes any pre pump and post pump routines as well.
If you're asking me and I have no logs to look at the trends, all I can do is toss a coin up and answer your questions based on a 50/50 chance. This is why logs are important. I shared my log templates with the brothers I work together with and they saw growth. Some saw within the first week, some saw a few weeks out, but growth nevertheless.
This is why routine and progress logs are critical.
If you're asking me and I have no logs to look at the trends, all I can do is toss a coin up and answer your questions based on a 50/50 chance. This is why logs are important. I shared my log templates with the brothers I work together with and they saw growth. Some saw within the first week, some saw a few weeks out, but growth nevertheless.
This is why routine and progress logs are critical.
"No logs to look at the trends", what do you mean, can you let me know? I do not understand.
Look at brother Haursen's log. You started one, but no base stats and current growth stats, including routines. Mine looks like these.
I see,
This is well-organized.
I am not working like this. My routine is very simple.
From 15 Mars to 15 April, I am doing 3 times a week Girth Routine 5x5x3. That's it.
I believe organizing it like this and seeing no results, will make my psychology worst.
Also you say "You started one, but no base stats and current growth stats, including routines" .... Where
I do not even know when i did that.
This is well-organized.
I am not working like this. My routine is very simple.
From 15 Mars to 15 April, I am doing 3 times a week Girth Routine 5x5x3. That's it.
I believe organizing it like this and seeing no results, will make my psychology worst.
Also you say "You started one, but no base stats and current growth stats, including routines" .... Where
I do not even know when i did that.
You logs and report in scattered across the posts. I try to memorize as many of the communicative brothers that I can. Some got my attention and I created track logs for my own data analysis. This is why the brothers here encourage personal logs, logs, and logs.
Make sure to put this in the routine and progress session. Everything is in a nicely nest package. You'll be surprised how easy it is to detect a trend right away.
If you have your starting penile measurements, it will be great to see. Flaccid and erected info if possible.
Girth:
Around the base
Around the mid shaft
Around the corona
Length:
From base to tip, bone pressed
Glans length from corona to tip (need measuring tape)
These info may seem trivial, but when you detect tissues growing in part of the penis but not the rest, you refocus the routines based on the needs. Growths come in different directions. You have to know where the growth is every 90 days. Measuring it weekly and monthly may encourage you along the journey, but the fun starts when you see a massive jump.
If you have your starting penile measurements, it will be great to see. Flaccid and erected info if possible.
Girth:
Around the base
Around the mid shaft
Around the corona
Length:
From base to tip, bone pressed
Glans length from corona to tip (need measuring tape)
These info may seem trivial, but when you detect tissues growing in part of the penis but not the rest, you refocus the routines based on the needs. Growths come in different directions. You have to know where the growth is every 90 days. Measuring it weekly and monthly may encourage you along the journey, but the fun starts when you see a massive jump.
I want to find a way to maximize results.
Agree
MityVac with a big water trap.
You can monitor the vaccum pressure live. You can go up and down in vaccum pressure if you want to. This will promote faster growth.
You do not have to deal with the rubber creases/the gator.
More comfort and better ability to modify the expansion with diffrent width of the cylinder. Bathmate haven't that many diffrent sizes. I have 4 Bathmate pump so I believe I'm the right person to answer this question.
I tried Bathmate reasently and it felt less comfortable then MityVac. Also it felt so unsafe because I had no idea what vaccum pressure I was at. When I have been using MityVac for a while I do not want to go back to Bathmate.
Going vacuum pressure up and down promotes faster growth ? Not just up? Is this some kind of different way of pumping ? Care to explain ?
I mostly go up first immediately to 10 in.Hg, then I stay there for some time, but during ~ 2 minutes during a set I go up to ~12 in.Hg, and then down to 10 in.Hg again.
I believe this method will tug at the tunica albigunea more, and loosen it up more, and make the permanent growth happen faster. Just a theory. I did something similarly with Bathmate. The last 2 minutes I always increased the vaccum pressure, so at the last minute (of 5) I was at the highest vaccum pressure.
I even went up to 15 in.Hg but that I do not recommend, because the penis feels very worn out afterwards. On the brink of feeling injured.
This is to much, it's to much risk with going this high.
This have at least been working for me.
Switching between a narrow and a wider cylinder during a session I believe is also beneficial.
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@kriskros, don't be crazy and go straight up to 10inHg. Remember that brother SIM has been pumping for a long time now. He is more conditioned that you are. For my Bathmate, I can go straight to 10inHg without any issue. But if you're using a MityVac, be very careful. 10inHg for the Bathmate does not mean 10inHg for the MityVac. The straight cylinder, including the sizing of the cylinder, is different when it comes to exerting different pressure loads. Not all cylinders have the same pressure influences. You go straight to the upper pressure zone because you think you can handle it, you'll get blisters, blood spots, or worst, internal injuries when yo past the pressure limit your penis is conditioned for.
Your right brother, it was a theory. Now, it's proven. The tunica albigunea's collagen bond breaks within a second when you reach and exceed the sacrificial collagen bond at 120 kJmol, or roughly estimated to 8.85in-lb. So, pumping from 5inHg to 10inHg, you're breaking your collagen bonds like crazy. Hitting 10 and 12inHg, you're breaking your collagen bonds at a "black magic" level. So brother SIM, you are no longer using a theory. You are using a proven fact
Between 10inHg and 15inHg, this is for the true pumping and Length Master veterans. You are going into pure black magic growth zone. The dangers lay await for you everywhere, but if you want to growth like a bamboo, this is the black magic zone.
This is the only way to go. Sacrifice a few hangouts with friends. Get a few cylinders of all sizes, from small, medium, to large to work in stages. This is how you promote proper isolationary growth.
Very good you point this out. Don't do what I do. I believe when I tried to pull off my penis for 1 year, conditioned my tissue to handle extreme vaccum pressure.
Sounds very amazing when getting confirmation on this.Your right brother, it was a theory. Now, it's proven. The tunica albigunea's collagen bond breaks within a second when you reach and exceed the sacrificial collagen bond at 120 kJmol, or roughly estimated to 8.85in-lb. So, pumping from 5inHg to 10inHg, you're breaking your collagen bonds like crazy. Hitting 10 and 12inHg, you're breaking your collagen bonds at a "black magic" level. So brother SIM, you are no longer using a theory. You are using a proven fact
Yes it's important to be careful and go up in intensity incrementally.
Multiple cylinders have been a game changer
The best of the best
Topic they both work perfectly, but if you're interested in this pump, buy it now. Because price and will go up vi
The jelq will never be discontinued. Jelq is a fluid displacement method for PE. What does that means? SSJ is to hold the blood in place, to be squeeze, compressed, and provide expansion. Jelq is to move the blood and plasma guild buildup in the skin to move into the lymph drainage line or out of the tissues and black into the blood vessels.
Jelqing downward from the base of the penis to your glans, you are pushing the fluid and make them collect into the lymph drainage line. You are also force the blood down to the glans by compressing the blood volume in the blood vessels to a terminal point of the penis, making the penis balloons up even more. Think of it as a directional SSJ.
By jelqing upwards from the glans to the base of your penis, you are force the blood flow out of your penis, including any build up fluid in the penis. Remember the angion methods we discussed earlier? This is practically mirror the Angion method at a low pace.
No. Normal jelqing is too low if an external pressure on the penis for the tissues to build resistance to unless you are choking the life out of it. Jelqing should be a moderate pace of lightly two to three fingers grips. If you feel like you are choking it similar to hard masturbation grips, that's not the normal jelqing. That's directional SSJ.
Brother please if possible remember when you are talking to me that I am a newbie? I hardly understand the meaning behind all these?
Let me say the question in another way. When 5x5x3, should we do jelqing too or NOT? If YES then it will bring more growth or NO? I need static answers!
There is a brother who got to 7 inches in girth. He started around 4.5 inches in girth. He only did jelqing and pumping. I believe jelqing and pumping when combined can still bring permanent gains just like it did for acromegaly.
Where is that guy? Do we know time frame? Only jelqing? When you say Jelqing you mean SSJ or the classic form of Jelqing?
He trained twice daily for 2 years
wtf twice daily, what a mentality i am envy of him
He had a wife who was in full support of his PE goals. That helped him.
I understand. And I have a girl that is not screaming at all. Where is this help?
You must be your own motivation brother. Don't give up. Giving up is no an option.
As brother huge girth said, 5x5x3 is indeed jelqing + pumping. If you are talking about normal jelqing, or directional jelqing by squeezing from the base and pull the blood to the glans, that is normal jelqing, or directional jelqing you can use it in place of SSJ, or with SSJ. It helps to boost blood flow while getting good expansion. SSJ is to focus mainly on expansion, and lots of it. Those with ED tends to do normal/directional jelqing over SSJ to get more blood into the penis, while still getting growth.
I am planning on using 1.875", 2" and 2.125" in one session. Gotta stuff each cylinder with minimal ballskin in there..
Rare as a unicorn
I can't speak for all since everyone is unique. But SSJ alone for 10 minutes will not get the gains. Most that gone through PE for along while and use SSJ, they simply maintain or cement the gains. Those who just started, yes, there will be some noticeable gain if SSJ is done daily, I mean daily, for a literal year. SSJ mimicks Bathmate's external vacuum pressure to expand internal tissues.
For me, personally, SSJ alone doesn't expand my tissues without the pump. It does maintain what I've created as gains throughout the week on days that I don't feel like doing my 1+ hour routine. Just like the past 4 days, I got sick from bad weather changes and I wanted all my energy focused on healing. Light and moderate 15 minutes SSJ was to prevent my gains from being reclaimed by regression during my too long of a break.
The pump with the ssj is the trick. Alone they are minimal but together they kick ass
5x5x3 is king. Nothing more powerful
5x5x5 can be better than 5x5x3, or 5x5x3 can be better than 5x5x5.
For some, 3x3x5 can be better than 5x5x3.
For others, 3x3x10 can be better than 5x5x3
Not everyone is the same. You have to find that sweet spot by experimenting. When your tissues developed over time because you performed PE in the past, or went a bit too crazy for too long doing some other routines, resulting in your tissues over adapting, you have to develop your routines from scratch and search for those new routines that will work best for you. The 5x5x3 is a newbie routine, to start you off. Once you reach intermediate level or advance level 9 months later, it's no longer a newbie. New routines must be incorporated to work around your adapted tissues. This is why some of the brothers are working harder than before to make their new routines work.
We warn the brothers to go easy at first, easing into the routines, and allow the body to growth at the low intensity first. We hold off on high intensity to prevent the body from adapting. Once the body reach an adaptive state at low intensities, we kick it up using high intensity.
(post based on past posts in this thread, about someone getting to 7 Inch EG).
Do your own journey and do not compare yourself to others. And don't put otheres on a pedistal. They are just a man like you. If you want fast and even growth I recommend pumping with water with MityVac Hydro-Vac Penis Pump.
And remember this. Not everyone wants to get to 7 Inch girth. But it's highly possible with adding intensity progressively and using water (even + faster growth) as your medium for creating vaccum pressure.
I'm edging on that number now (7). But I don't want to go there.
Do your own journey and do not compare yourself to others. And don't put otheres on a pedistal. They are just a man like you. If you want fast and even growth I recommend pumping with water with MityVac Hydro-Vac Penis Pump.
And remember this. Not everyone wants to get to 7 Inch girth. But it's highly possible with adding intensity progressively and using water (even + faster growth) as your medium for creating vaccum pressure.
I'm edging on that number now (7). But I don't want to go there.
What do you want to get to? I guess you are going to 7 to cement what size? I’ve always heard for length you want to try and get a 1/4 inch past where you want to be but what about girth? Is it 1/4 inch or more?