Debra Jo FONDREN...

[Nelly Gay]

Fondren was the 1976 Playmate of the Year and rightly famous for her ankle-length blonde hair.
Now in her fifties her hair is shorter (waist length) but she is still a stunningly-beautiful woman .
She tried to make it as an actress but with limited success ...
Does anyone remember her "FONDly" ?

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Dude...I thought you were gay?!?
Or is that just yer name and I'm all confused?

Either way, yeah I remember Debra Jo, one of my many juvenile infatuations. I'm still infatuated, and only slightly less juvenile.

So, now I've got a question for ya. Forgive me if it sounds ignorant, but your post here piqued my interest about something:
It's obvious that you can appreciate a beautiful woman, but, (I'm still assuming you're gay), in just what way does a beatiful gal like Debra Jo affect you?

Me, while fully appreciating her looks in an aesthetic way,(let's face it; beautiful is beautiful is beautiful) there's also a significant sexual component to the attraction, and it's hard for me to imagine separating the two.

Again, forgive me if this sounds kinda simplistic; but I just hadda ask.

 

[Nelly Gay]

Dude...I thought you were gay?!?
Or is that just yer name and I'm all confused?

Either way, yeah I remember Debra Jo, one of my many juvenile infatuations. I'm still infatuated, and only slightly less juvenile.

So, now I've got a question for ya. Forgive me if it sounds ignorant, but your post here piqued my interest about something:
It's obvious that you can appreciate a beautiful woman, but, (I'm still assuming you're gay), in just what way does a beatiful gal like Debra Jo affect you?

Me, while fully appreciating her looks in an aesthetic way,(let's face it; beautiful is beautiful is beautiful) there's also a significant sexual component to the attraction, and it's hard for me to imagine separating the two.

Sexuality aside, Fondren is a stunningly beautiful woman and was at the height of her beauty in 1976 ...
Gay men can appreciate beauty in women (the best hairdressers, make-up artists, plastic surgeons and fashion designers are usually men and invariably gay)....
She had beautiful light eyes, high cheekbones as well as Rapunzel hair .
Beauty (as you so rightly say) is beauty whether art, music, a tree or A Playmate Of The Year from Texas.
I assume you are heterosexual ? Do you never think an athlete has a good physique or an actor is handsome ?
Gay men usually have a better understanding of women .
On this forum that is a rarity ....

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Thanks for the feedback. I was just wondering how a beauty like Debra Jo could fail to stir up any arousal....ain't like she's Janet Reno, y'know.
But I guess, that's what makes the world go 'round.

 

[Nelly Gay]

Thanks for the feedback. I was just wondering how a beauty like Debra Jo could fail to stir up any arousal....ain't like she's Janet Reno, y'know.
But I guess, that's what makes the world go 'round.

Sadly, the average woman does not look at all like Debra Jo Fondren and would probably be dismissive of her career choices ....
There was a very beautiful Bond Girl and Playmate called Caroline Cossey (model name Tula) who was outed as a transsexual.
One of the middle-aged women I worked with said she "was a monster".
Perhaps but a stunningly beautiful monster none-the-less !

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Y'know, it's funny that you mentioned Tula, because she was the subject of great debate amongst me and a few friends back when she was big and making the circuit years ago.
I thought she was damn hot...so did a bunch o' my buddies.

Then when it came out that SHE was once a HE a lotta guys went herpetile. I thought she was still hot. They felt, I don't know, cheated or swindled or something.
Personally, I thought that they were a little too strenuous in their objections, as though they needed to convince themselves that they themselves were not, in fact, gay.
Almost like they were afraid of being labeled "freak by proxy".

A coupla guys asked me, "What the fuck, man, are you gay; that useta be a GUY!" I said; "Yeah, useta be..not no more, all the "guy stuff's" gone, so what difference does it make if she's a "man-made-woman", she's still as hot as she was back when you wanted to boink her too, and if she had never said anything none of you jamokes would ever have been able to tell the difference on your own".

Yep, people are funny.

 

[Nelly Gay]

Y'know, it's funny that you mentioned Tula, because she was the subject of great debate amongst me and a few friends back when she was big and making the circuit years ago.
I thought she was damn hot...so did a bunch o' my buddies.

Then when it came out that SHE was once a HE a lotta guys went herpetile. I thought she was still hot. They felt, I don't know, cheated or swindled or something.
Personally, I thought that they were a little too strenuous in their objections, as though they needed to convince themselves that they themselves were not, in fact, gay.
Almost like they were afraid of being labeled "freak by proxy".

A coupla guys asked me, "What the fuck, man, are you gay; that useta be a GUY!" I said; "Yeah, useta be..not no more, all the "guy stuff's" gone, so what difference does it make if she's a "man-made-woman", she's still as hot as she was back when you wanted to boink her too, and if she had never said anything none of you jamokes would ever have been able to tell the difference on your own".

Yep, people are funny.

The woman who referred to Tula as "a monster" was pushing sixty, flat-chested with short hair and glasses .
Work it out...
Beautiful is beautiful is beautiful and transcends gender, ethnithticity and age ....
Aged 53, Caroline Cossey is still a stunning beauty and lives quietly in Atalanta.
Other transsexual women witness Amanda Lepore and Alanna Starr look too surgically-altered !

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Yep, some women, born or made, get addicted to cosmetic surgery and wind up looking like some parody of a woman. Pam Anderson started out just plain gorgeous. Not only was she a damn good looking woman but there was an innocence to her too...now she's easily five or six operations well past good looking as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Pandora]

Yep, some women, born or made, get addicted to cosmetic surgery and wind up looking like some parody of a woman. Pam Anderson started out just plain gorgeous. Not only was she a damn good looking woman but there was an innocence to her too...now she's easily five or six operations well past good looking as far as I'm concerned.

Nar Pam Anderson is still hot.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Have ya ever seen that poor gal without make-up?
Sorry, but if she don't wheel her ass through Maaco first thing in the morning it just ain't workin' for her.
Give me a gal that I can ride hard and put away wet and she still looks good when she rolls over at daybreak any day.

 

[Pandora]

Have ya ever seen that poor gal without make-up?
Sorry, but if she don't wheel her ass through Maaco first thing in the morning it just ain't workin' for her.
Give me a gal that I can ride hard and put away wet and she still looks good when she rolls over at daybreak any day.

Your crazy lol Pam has to cool down cause she is so hot lol

 

[MAXAMEYES]

HA !!!
Yer hookt, ain'tcha?
Debra Jo:

Pam just don't do it for me anymore.

 

[Pandora]

HA !!!
Yer hookt, ain'tcha?
Debra Jo:

Pam just don't do it for me anymore.

well she does me i would not say no.

 

[Nelly Gay]

Yep, some women, born or made, get addicted to cosmetic surgery and wind up looking like some parody of a woman. Pam Anderson started out just plain gorgeous. Not only was she a damn good looking woman but there was an innocence to her too...now she's easily five or six operations well past good looking as far as I'm concerned.

Pamela Anderson still has that certain something ; she seems a nice "girl" and a good mother and is always working ...
She does a lot of charity work and had had a 20 year career .
She still looks good for a 40 year old Mother-Of_Two .
l

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Oh I think Pam's weathered the storm pretty well. And anybody's got to admire her sincerity and charity. But, maybe it's because I'm an old hippy-type from the backwoods of Maine, Pam's "look" is just a little too manufactured and high maintenance for me. But I'm sure she's a sweetheart. At least she wasn't bangin' Dennis Rodman !!

 

[Nelly Gay]

Oh I think Pam's weathered the storm pretty well. And anybody's got to admire her sincerity and charity. But, maybe it's because I'm an old hippy-type from the backwoods of Maine, Pam's "look" is just a little too manufactured and high maintenance for me. But I'm sure she's a sweetheart. At least she wasn't bangin' Dennis Rodman !!

That said SO MANY models, adult entertainment queens and strippers aspire to that Baywatch Babe look Anderson has perfected .
Their make-up is almost surgical !

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Speaking of surgery:
One thing that kinda cracks me up about a lotta gals is the lengths that they'll go to in concession to vanity.
From simple dye jobs and colored lenses to all of their various waxings and peelings and tannings and exfoliations to boob jobs, lipo, butt tucks, tattooed eye and lip make-up. Vaginal tucks...rib removal for smaller waists..even, I swear to God, amputating the last knukle and tip of their big toes and then tattooing on a nail so that they fit into smaller shoes.

And then...and then! They have the nerve to look a guy in the eye and say, "Can't we be totally honest with each other?"
That to me, is just hyper-ironically funny.

 

[Nelly Gay]

Speaking of surgery:
One thing that kinda cracks me up about a lotta gals is the lengths that they'll go to in concession to vanity.
From simple dye jobs and colored lenses to all of their various waxings and peelings and tannings and exfoliations to boob jobs, lipo, butt tucks, tattooed eye and lip make-up. Vaginal tucks...rib removal for smaller waists..even, I swear to God, amputating the last knukle and tip of their big toes and then tattooing on a nail so that they fit into smaller shoes.

And then...and then! They have the nerve to look a guy in the eye and say, "Can't we be totally honest with each other?"
That to me, is just hyper-ironically funny.

The laydees in question. might ponder over a web-site for men who are anxious about their penis size, height (or lack of. it) and big muscles ?

 

[MAXAMEYES]

That, I am sure, is quite true. But for me, the line of demarcation is; "The Knife" !
The way I see it is: if I can make changes in my body or mind by training, learning, exercise, practice etc. then what I'm doing is taking my natural ability for growth and change to its next logical step in my progression as a human and using it for a positive, focused purpose.
Surgery however ( convulsive shudder ) is something UN-natural and quite often fatal.

Maybe I'm just prejudiced due to my intrinsic distrust of most of the established medical community, augmented by my....let's not say "phobia"...let's say, my "sincere reluctance" to be cut upon. Especially not for the sake of my sheer vanity.
That's most probably why I'm most attracted to women who have a much less artificial look about them.

 

[Nelly Gay]

That, I am sure, is quite true. But for me, the line of demarcation is; "The Knife" !
The way I see it is: if I can make changes in my body or mind by training, learning, exercise, practice etc. then what I'm doing is taking my natural ability for growth and change to its next logical step in my progression as a human and using it for a positive, focused purpose.
Surgery however ( convulsive shudder ) is something UN-natural and quite often fatal.

Maybe I'm just prejudiced due to my intrinsic distrust of most of the established medical community, augmented by my....let's not say "phobia"...let's say, my "sincere reluctance" to be cut upon. Especially not for the sake of my sheer vanity.
That's most probably why I'm most attracted to women who have a much less artificial look about them.

Some of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] posters had penile augmentation with disastrous results ...
Expensive and no guarantees ...
A lot of men have DSm (Body Dismorphia) were they think their nornmal sized penises are too small or they feel that they are too thin or too short.
For any cosmetic operations you need to be carefully screened and sensible about the outcomes or they won't operate !
Most plastic surgeons do not need difficult or disruptive patients who are "unhappy".
I cannot understand this current male fetish for waxing your body hair ?
I do wear coloured contact lenses as they are easier to apply when your vision is -10.