Progress thread Come on gains

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5 or 18.6cm

There it is..although the date is strange, but there's the change!! Two more weeks!! If that goes up to 18.7cm, you are entering the secondary growth phase!! Cross your fingers, toes, and smile with anticipation. Don't go crazy, and just keep on doing what you're doing. Don't hurt yourself by being overzealous.
 
There it is..although the date is strange, but there's the change!! Two more weeks!! If that goes up to 18.7cm, you are entering the secondary growth phase!! Cross your fingers, toes, and smile with anticipation. Don't go crazy, and just keep on doing what you're doing. Don't hurt yourself by being overzealous.
Thank you for feedback!

The date is when I started at 17.3 BPFLS
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 32 hrs 40 min
ADS 2 hr 50 min

Session 40 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 7 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.6cm

With Heat Pad
15 min ext straight @9 lbs

No Heat
5 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
25 min ext straight @7 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.6cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 32 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 41 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
15 min power jelq flaccid
***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm

30 min ADS w/ cup and sleeve

After ADS BPFLS
***18.5cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 32 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 0 min

Session 42 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 7 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.7cm

With Heat Pad
15 min ext straight @9 lbs

No Heat
15 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
20 min ext straight @5 lbs
10 min ext straight @9 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm
 
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Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 33 hrs 10 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 43 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
15 min jelq flaccid ⬇️
500 count
***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm

with heat
5 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
5 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L
5 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
5 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L
10 min ext ➡️@9 lbs bundle

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm
 
And the excited growth starts. Great job, brother!! Keep it up. Remember, stay the course and avoid being overzealous.
Thank you and DLD and other brothers for feedback!

The extender I have allows for bundles, but actually after you and DLD mentioned it, I was able to use my basic extender
With my new extender its a bit easier and I think I need to do more bundle time in it.
 
Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 34 hrs 00 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 44 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 8 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.7cm

with heat
10 min ext ➡️@9 lbs
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext ➡️@5 lbs bundle L

Room Temp
5 min ext ➡️@7 lbs

Ice
2 min ext ➡️@7 lbs ice top
2 min ext ➡️@9 lbs ice bottom
2 min ext ➡️@9 lbs ice top
2 min ext ➡️@9 lbs ice bottom
2 min ext ➡️@9 lbs ice on balls

Room Temp
5 min ext ➡️@7 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm
 
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Input to ai
Take this information and give me my length
• Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
• 6% strain = tissue is 1.06× its starting length
• Elastic up to ~3%, linear 3–6%, plastic 6–10%, failure >10%

With some tweaking here it is
Condensed Daily Session Model

Stage Duration % Creep Achieved

Warm-up (heat, 5 min) 5 min ~28 %
Pre-stretch (“bundles”, 10 min) 10 min ~53 %
Ligament traction (“dld rolls”, 10 min) 10 min ~70 %
Static traction extender (steady 9–12 lbs) 45 min ~95 %
Ice 5 min while in extender
Minimal hold 30 to 45 min
Maintenance hold 2–3 h 95 % (strain held for remodeling)

Longer version

Daily Session Model (Text Version)

1. Warm-up (heat) – 10 min
Prepares tissue, reduces τ (time constant), accelerates initial creep.

Longer heat slightly increases tissue pliability and primes fibroblasts.

2. Pre-stretch (“bundles”) – 10 min
Straightens collagen fibers, pre-exhausts tunica (~53 % creep).

3. Ligament traction (“rolls”) – 10 min
Multi-axis ligament loading (~70 % creep).

4. Static traction – 45 min
Achieves ~95 % mechanical creep under safe 9–12 lbs tension.

Slightly faster creep due to longer warm-up; optional small reduction in static traction time.

5. Short ice – ≤5 min
Applied immediately after reaching creep.

Slightly reduces elastic recoil; fibroblast activity temporarily slowed but resumes within 10–15 min.

6. Minimal maintenance hold – 30–45 min
Tissue remains stretched after ice; fibroblasts active, initiating permanent collagen remodeling.
 
Wow
Amazing stuff!!!

Based on the information it gave i found a great workout

Input to ai
Take this information and give me my length
• Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
• 6% strain = tissue is 1.06× its starting length
• Elastic up to ~3%, linear 3–6%, plastic 6–10%, failure >10%
Click to expand...

Just for personal log information, I'll repost it here too. It's a good personal summation so far. From our data compilation and modeling, without the AI, we have, on average:

Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
Common strain = ~10%, optimal at ~15%, with tissue at 1.09 to 1.112 × its starting length
Elasticity/Malleability up to ~15%, Linear optimization at 4–9%, Plasticity ~10–15%, with Error Rate/Failure Rate >+/-6%

This is a modeling system based on what we have in collective data so far. It doesn't mean it cannot change.

With some tweaking here it is
Condensed Daily Session Model

Stage Duration % Creep Achieved

Warm-up (heat, 5 min) 5 min ~28 %
Pre-stretch (“bundles”, 10 min) 10 min ~53 %
Ligament traction (“dld rolls”, 10 min) 10 min ~70 %
Static traction extender (steady 9–12 lbs) 45 min ~95 %
Ice 5 min while in extender
Minimal hold 30 to 45 min
Maintenance hold 2–3 h 95 % (strain held for remodeling)
Click to expand...

Possible malleability over-hallucination to overpush. Make sure to prompt for medical safety concern with a limitation factor of 0.5lb of traction load progression at 4 to 6 weeks, adding a 60% safety margin. 45 minutes at a static force between 9lbs and12lbs is way too high.

What we've been testing as a vascular constrictor factor by using cold water. Very nicely added. This actually causes the blood vessels to be more robust using thermal shock methods for PE. We didn't think about this until a few years ago, and I've tested this way back in 2015 when my wife made me go into from "hot" to "cold" water during our fun. Long story short, I noticed the harder rigidity of the penile shaft from the thermal shock, and applied to my PE.

Longer version

Daily Session Model (Text Version)

1. Warm-up (heat) – 10 min
Prepares tissue, reduces τ (time constant), accelerates initial creep.

Longer heat slightly increases tissue pliability and primes fibroblasts.

2. Pre-stretch (“bundles”) – 10 min
Straightens collagen fibers, pre-exhausts tunica (~53 % creep).

3. Ligament traction (“rolls”) – 10 min
Multi-axis ligament loading (~70 % creep).

4. Static traction – 45 min
Achieves ~95 % mechanical creep under safe 9–12 lbs tension.
Click to expand...

Best to create a mechanical assisting creep using low, moderate, high, moderate, low approach. It's static, but progressive static. We use "dynamic" because the change in the traction loads, but in reality, anything more than 5 minutes is considered as static.

Slightly faster creep due to longer warm-up; optional small reduction in static traction time.

5. Short ice – ≤5 min
Applied immediately after reaching creep.

Slightly reduces elastic recoil; fibroblast activity temporarily slowed but resumes within 10–15 min.

6. Minimal maintenance hold – 30–45 min
Tissue remains stretched after ice; fibroblasts active, initiating permanent collagen remodeling.
Click to expand...

I'm very happy that the brothers are using the AI engines for PE, further evolving the PE programs. This is like a dream come true for the forefathers of PE, and definitely new leaders of PE for the next generations.
 
Just for personal log information, I'll repost it here too. It's a good personal summation so far. From our data compilation and modeling, without the AI, we have, on average:

Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
Common strain = ~10%, optimal at ~15%, with tissue at 1.09 to 1.112 × its starting length
Elasticity/Malleability up to ~15%, Linear optimization at 4–9%, Plasticity ~10–15%, with Error Rate/Failure Rate >+/-6%

This is a modeling system based on what we have in collective data so far. It doesn't mean it cannot change.



Possible malleability over-hallucination to overpush. Make sure to prompt for medical safety concern with a limitation factor of 0.5lb of traction load progression at 4 to 6 weeks, adding a 60% safety margin. 45 minutes at a static force between 9lbs and12lbs is way too high.

What we've been testing as a vascular constrictor factor by using cold water. Very nicely added. This actually causes the blood vessels to be more robust using thermal shock methods for PE. We didn't think about this until a few years ago, and I've tested this way back in 2015 when my wife made me go into from "hot" to "cold" water during our fun. Long story short, I noticed the harder rigidity of the penile shaft from the thermal shock, and applied to my PE.



Best to create a mechanical assisting creep using low, moderate, high, moderate, low approach. It's static, but progressive static. We use "dynamic" because the change in the traction loads, but in reality, anything more than 5 minutes is considered as static.



I'm very happy that the brothers are using the AI engines for PE, further evolving the PE programs. This is like a dream come true for the forefathers of PE, and definitely new leaders of PE for the next generations.

@oldandlively
Thank you for the feedback!

Are you saying based on the research that it is higher than the ai model

MOS is

Common strain = ~10%, optimal at ~15%, with tissue at 1.09 to 1.112 × its starting length
Elasticity/Malleability up to ~15%, Linear optimization at 4–9%, Plasticity ~10–15%, with Error Rate/Failure Rate >+/-6%

The AI model had multiplying at 1.06 but I see the MOS one higher

So does this mean the strain has to be higher than the ai model

I just want to be on the correct path as far as how much strain I'm using with the extender

What should be the time then on the 9lbs to 11lbs I am using

Should I limit this to only
5 to 10 min increments?

How about cummulative time with 9 to 11lbs per session?

I just want to make sure not to get hurt

I've got good growth so far I think with my routine
and don't want to get overzelous

The ice
I'm going to keep it to a minimum of maybe 5 minutes
Unless you think it should be different
 
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