Progress thread Come on gains

JustGrow

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Starting stats
BPEL 6
EG 4.5-4.75

Started Newbie Routine with stretches, girth work only one day Jan 2019

-Workout schedule
Monday on - stretch
Tuesday off
Wednesday on - stretch
Thursday on - stretch
Friday off
Saturday on -jelq/ squeeze or light clamping

***Stretch day

-Warm up
5 min in shower

-water pump session
5 min (penome or cheap pump with bulb)

-Newbie Stretches 25-30 min
Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

-30 minutes light stretch using phalloguage extender
Used just to stay extended after workout

-Warm down
5 min


***jelq/ squeeze or light clamping

-Warm up
5 min in shower

-water pump session
5 min (penome or cheap pump with bulb)

10, 3 sec jelqs then 1, 5 sec squeeze
x 10

or

3 sets of 5-7 min clamp sessions
equal amount of rest in between with helicopter shakes

The reason I have not been doing the jelqs with stretches is because I noticed a drop in eq.

Please, any input is welcome!

I have done some pe before, just not consistent.
Hoping to stick with it this time and really make some true gains (like)
 
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Looking good from here.

Stick with this for at least 4-6 weeks consistently, have pictures taken beforehand, and take another set at the 4-6 week point. Try the same place, same angle, position.

Motivation, dedicaiton, determination, and intensity are key elements here, along with patience.
 
Thank you for laying out your routine and creating a progress thread is the smartest move we can meet after you join the brotherhood. Your workout looks good I have a few additions that will probably help. Before you start your routine I suggest you get them five minutes of bundled stretches. These are important as they prepare your tunica to take on much more size, length or girth, to get the most out of your routine. I also recommend twice a week that you do 10 minutes of erect stretching. This is very easy to do, get yourself erect and stretch straight out In front of you for 10 minutes. You can do it one minute at a time. This is going to help you secure a new length gains.

I noticed at the top of your post your days and I only see one day of girth work, is that really what you’re doing? Or am I mistaken, just let me know because I have advice.

Other than that I agree with Red keep up your motivation, dedication, determination and you work progressively more intense, these are all vital to you staying in the game and you making the gains you want.
 
Looking good from here.

Stick with this for at least 4-6 weeks consistently, have pictures taken beforehand, and take another set at the 4-6 week point. Try the same place, same angle, position.

Motivation, dedicaiton, determination, and intensity are key elements here, along with patience.
Thanks for checking out my routine Red.

I will stick with it for a couple of months and then see where I am at.
Main thing is to stick with it.

One thing I forgot to mention is that my routine is at night.
Any thoughts on training time?

Thanks for the key elements you provided.
 
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Thank you for laying out your routine and creating a progress thread is the smartest move we can meet after you join the brotherhood. Your workout looks good I have a few additions that will probably help. Before you start your routine I suggest you get them five minutes of bundled stretches. These are important as they prepare your tunica to take on much more size, length or girth, to get the most out of your routine. I also recommend twice a week that you do 10 minutes of erect stretching. This is very easy to do, get yourself erect and stretch straight out In front of you for 10 minutes. You can do it one minute at a time. This is going to help you secure a new length gains.

I noticed at the top of your post your days and I only see one day of girth work, is that really what you’re doing? Or am I mistaken, just let me know because I have advice.

Other than that I agree with Red keep up your motivation, dedication, determination and you work progressively more intense, these are all vital to you staying in the game and you making the gains you want.
Thanks for checking out my routine DLD.

Bundled stretches got it.
I will also incorporate the erect stretching for 2 days a week.
Based on my schedule when do you think I should include it?

Only girthwork on Saturday, this is more of a confidence booster than anything.
It does feel like it helps the vein network and blood supply.
Feedback please if you think I should be doing something different.
I am trying to gain length first as much as I can, since I think this would be harder for me to gain.
 
Thanks for checking out my routine Red.

I will stick with it for a couple of months and then see where I am at.
Main thing is to stick with it.

One thing I forgot to mention is that my routine is at night.
Any thoughts on training time?

Thanks for the key elements you provided.

Yeah night is fine, so long as you can remain awake :)
 
Thanks for checking out my routine DLD.

Bundled stretches got it.
I will also incorporate the erect stretching for 2 days a week.
Based on my schedule when do you think I should include it?

Only girthwork on Saturday, this is more of a confidence booster than anything.
It does feel like it helps the vein network and blood supply.
Feedback please if you think I should be doing something different.
I am trying to gain length first as much as I can, since I think this would be harder for me to gain.

You answered my question perfectly, you’re going for length before girth. This is becoming a popular wait for men to train as they can put complete focus on the work they’re doing. Length work is quite different than girth work in a mental sense, girth work requires libido and great focus while length requires little focus and no libido.

It’s very smart that you’re doing one day of girth work to keep your body in that game while you’re training for length. It’s a bright idea and I’m going to include this as a method for those who are going exclusive with one or the other.

Erect stretches to be done every day if you desire for as long as you want. But I would say a minimum do two sets a week of 10 minutes and that should close that gap between your bone pressed flaccid size and your bone pressed erect size.

I wish you the best on this journey but if you need any help come right back we’re here to help you.
 
You answered my question perfectly, you’re going for length before girth. This is becoming a popular wait for men to train as they can put complete focus on the work they’re doing. Length work is quite different than girth work in a mental sense, girth work requires libido and great focus while length requires little focus and no libido.

It’s very smart that you’re doing one day of girth work to keep your body in that game while you’re training for length. It’s a bright idea and I’m going to include this as a method for those who are going exclusive with one or the other.

Erect stretches to be done every day if you desire for as long as you want. But I would say a minimum do two sets a week of 10 minutes and that should close that gap between your bone pressed flaccid size and your bone pressed erect size.

I wish you the best on this journey but if you need any help come right back we’re here to help you.
I will tweak my routine to add erect stretches.
Can these be done without warm up or do all workouts require warm up?

Honestly adding the one girth day was by accident, because I liked how it looked post workout after doing length the other days.
It is almost like the one day girth work gives it a shock day to force growth.

Thank you all.
 
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Yes they can be done with no warm-up you’re basically just trying to maintain closing the gap between flaccid stretched bone press length versus bone press erect length.
 
***edit to routine on 2/18/2019 added erect stretches and bundled stretches

Starting stats
BPEL 6
EG 4.5-4.75

Started Newbie Routine with stretches, girth work only one day Jan 2019

-Workout schedule
Monday on - stretch
Tuesday on - edit 2/18 erect stretch added
Wednesday on - stretch
Thursday on - stretch
Friday off
Saturday on
-edit 2/18 added erect stretch - AM
-jelq/ squeeze or light clamping - PM
Sunday off

***Stretch day

-Warm up
5 min in shower

-water pump session
5 min (penome or cheap pump with bulb)

-Bundled Stretches
5 min

-Newbie Stretches 25-30 min
Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

-30 minutes light stretch using phalloguage extender
Used just to stay extended after workout

-Warm down
5 min


***jelq/ squeeze or light clamping

-Warm up
5 min in shower

-water pump session
5 min (penome or cheap pump with bulb)

-Bundled Stretches
5 min

10, 3 sec jelqs then 1, 5 sec squeeze
x 10

or

3 sets of 5-7 min clamp sessions
equal amount of rest in between with helicopter shakes

-Warm down
5 min


***Erect Stretch day

-Warm up
5 min in shower

-Bundled Stretches
5 min

10, 1 min erect stretches, rest 15-30 sec rest
erect stretches performed with ok double
grip at base and behind glans pointed straight up while doing reverse kegel

-Warm down
5 min
 
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What an incredible routine an update, thank you so much my brother. I hope other people look at this log because you have one heck of a workout going! Please keep this up I’ll visit every single day and I guarantee within six months you’re going to see close to an inch gain!
 
Note: Testing theory of prepping the tunica before workout with bundled stretches and possibly water pump.

Actually I just forgot to do bundled stretches yesterday and using water pump before workout, but I noticed a difference from my Monday workout when I performed bundled stretches.

When I stretched yesterday it didn’t feel as intense of a stretching session and also my post workout hang wasn’t as good.

Then I thought what was different than my last workout...oh man I forgot to use my water pump and forgot the 5 minutes of bundled stretches that were recommended.

I can see now that prepping the tunica is a must. I think I was doing this somewhat by using using a water pump before my workout, but didn’t realize.

Then when the bundled stretches were incorporated on Monday I felt a big difference during the workout.
I was able to get more elongation, if that makes sense.

Are there any other ways besides bundled stretches to prep the tunica?
I think it is referred to as deforming the tunica before the workout.
I will try to remember it in my workout by remembering
-Warm up
-Tune up

Come on gains!
 
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Hello buddy, well the bundles are recommended because they are much more effective in how they prep the tunicae, with its corkscrew-like motion, that gets extra tension, and places more stres onto the outer sheath covering the chambers of the penis - corpus cavernosum and spongiusm - versus other methods.

You could for example do erect bends, but they wouldn't be as good.

Do a little experiment .. a piece of string or cloth, roll it up and pull ... now twist it up into a bundle, and pull it .. you will notice more of a stretch .. see that as your penis, the outside to the cloth would be the strong fibrous sheath, that is very tough, and conventional positions, and methods dont hit nearly so well.
 
Thanks for the feedback Red.
I didn’t know I would notice such a difference in doing bundles in one workout day.
Now that I know what a difference they make, they are necessary to get an even better workout on stretch day.

Are bundled stretches recommended before girth work as well?

How about before erect stretches?
I have not been doing bundled stretches with erect stretches because I feel that erect stretches are targeting the ligaments.
 
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We are at such a more innovative time in penis enlargement, gone are the days where you had to train by hands only all the time ... it will only get you so far, and devices have been accepted as essential tools to help target more specifically, a given area.

Now, we understand more about how to train versus 10+ years ago, which leads me onto answering your question.

I would do the bundles before the erect stretching, due to them fatiguing the tunicae, and even with a ligament only stretch from my experience you still hit the tunicae, its the external sheath around the penis.

Do them before girth workouts, in the past I would not have seen the connection in them helping, but in this new informative age, the bundle will have stretched + fatigued the tunicae which covers the entire outer penis ... this is the x3 chambers its made up of, and hence it must aid in once girth sessions with expansion.
 
Note: Testing theory of prepping the tunica before workout with bundled stretches and possibly water pump.

Actually I just forgot to do bundled stretches yesterday and using water pump before workout, but I noticed a difference from my Monday workout when I performed bundled stretches.

When I stretched yesterday it didn’t feel as intense of a stretching session and also my post workout hang wasn’t as good.

Then I thought what was different than my last workout...oh man I forgot to use my water pump and forgot the 5 minutes of bundled stretches that were recommended.

I can see now that prepping the tunica is a must. I think I was doing this somewhat by using using a water pump before my workout, but didn’t realize.

Then when the bundled stretches were incorporated on Monday I felt a big difference during the workout.
I was able to get more elongation, if that makes sense.

Are there any other ways besides bundled stretches to prep the tunica?
I think it is referred to as deforming the tunica before the workout.
I will try to remember it in my workout by remembering
-Warm up
-Tune up

Come on gains!

I’m so happy that you did the self experimentation because it’s very important to have faith in bundled stretching. The only way to pre-stretch the tunica is by using bundled stretches. They are intense enough and the twisting truly gets into the density of the Tunica. Once the Tunica has been pre-stretched you’ll see length and girth coming so much faster. It’s strange because I invented the stretch back in 2002 or somewhere around there. They remained dormant for years until I discovered that it was not simply a stretch, It was an exercise that actually gave me better post workout gains. When not doing bundles I did not get the same temporary gains proving that bundled stretching factually loosened the Tunica?
 
I went back to my previous workout update to ensure I had bundled stretches in before the rest of the workout.
I’ll keep it the same with
-5 min warm in shower
-5 min water pump
-5 min bundled stretches
Then the rest of the workout.

Right now I feel like the 5 min water pump portion is part of the warm up.

Thanks for the knowledge everyone.

Come on gains!
 
You answered my question perfectly, you’re going for length before girth. This is becoming a popular wait for men to train as they can put complete focus on the work they’re doing. Length work is quite different than girth work in a mental sense, girth work requires libido and great focus while length requires little focus and no libido.

It’s very smart that you’re doing one day of girth work to keep your body in that game while you’re training for length. It’s a bright idea and I’m going to include this as a method for those who are going exclusive with one or the other.

Erect stretches to be done every day if you desire for as long as you want. But I would say a minimum do two sets a week of 10 minutes and that should close that gap between your bone pressed flaccid size and your bone pressed erect size.

I wish you the best on this journey but if you need any help come right back we’re here to help you.
I do erect stretches to and they really work
 
I went back to my previous workout update to ensure I had bundled stretches in before the rest of the workout.
I’ll keep it the same with
-5 min warm in shower
-5 min water pump
-5 min bundled stretches
Then the rest of the workout.

Right now I feel like the 5 min water pump portion is part of the warm up.

Thanks for the knowledge everyone.

Come on gains!

Take a particular notice in any difference in temporary length or girth due to Bundled Stretches being done before your workout. Many people report better temporary gains in length and girth one bundle stretches are done prior to their routine.
 
Take a particular notice in any difference in temporary length or girth due to Bundled Stretches being done before your workout. Many people report better temporary gains in length and girth one bundle stretches are done prior to their routine.
You guys mentioned erects and bundles and I have incorporated it into my workouts as of last week. I noticed the difference after just one length workout.
 
Thanks Darkmoon, I will look up hardcore bathmate stretches and see if I can incorporate some of this into my routine at some point.

I do girthwork 1 day a week right now and I am looking at the 5x5x3 to see how to perform it.
 
Hard-core stretches are an incredible addition and a very good Expressive exercise. Erect bundles are very powerful too as your stretching your Tunica in its most expanded state. I’m finally erect stretching is what allows you to close the gap between the ELBP and FSBP. I’m so happy you guys are getting all this good stuff out of the brotherhood!
 
Hard-core stretches are an incredible addition and a very good Expressive exercise. Erect bundles are very powerful too as your stretching your Tunica in its most expanded state. I’m finally erect stretching is what allows you to close the gap between the ELBP and FSBP. I’m so happy you guys are getting all this good stuff out of the brotherhood!
I’ve been looking for the hardcore bathmate stretches on site because I want to see if it is something I can do with penome pump but I am unable to find them.
 
I’ve been looking for the hardcore bathmate stretches on site because I want to see if it is something I can do with penome pump but I am unable to find them.

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I’ve been looking for the hardcore bathmate stretches on site because I want to see if it is something I can do with penome pump but I am unable to find them.

Unfortunately with the Penomet the stretches are damn difficult to do due to the construction of the unit.
As the gaiters are not fixed, it really isn't viable option to stretches with the unit.

One possibility would be to use a zip tie, but I doubt that would hold very strongly.
You could possibly glue the gaiter permanently on the unit. You could choose your favorite gaiter (I think black one is quite decent, the difference is in the rigidness of the gaiter regarding the colors) and glue it on.
Not an official suggestion, you do this with your own risk.

Or take a plunge and get a Mityvac. ;) It really is difficult to those stretches with the Penomet, you could try to hold the gaiter on, but I think it is too much hassle.

Thanks to @Darkmoon for linking the video!
 
I will have to do my best in the mean time with penome, but that MityVac looks nice too.

Ok update soon on routine based on feedback you all have provided.

Thanks

In the meantime what you can do this sort of hold the base of the Penomet and the gator at the same time and pull them both and sometimes there’s a good enough vacuum that you can get a good hard-core stretch.
 
Which one should go first on stretch day, bundles or hardcore water pump stretches?

I go with newbie stretches after.
 
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Bundled stretching always come first no matter what you are training. The whole reason we do Bundled Stretches prior to our routines is it pre-stretches the Tunica, allowing for maximum expansion and elongation.
 
Bundled stretching always come first no matter what you are training. The whole reason we do Bundled Stretches prior to our routines is it pre-stretches the Tunica, allowing for maximum expansion and elongation.
Thanks DLD. Just double checking.
Ok, now I know what to do with my routine.
 
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***edit to routine on 2/25/2019
-swapped bundles right after warm up or as part of the warm up for tunica prep
-added hardcore water pump stretches
Bathmate is the preferred pump, but might be able to do them with other water pumps.
-jelq / squeeze or light clamping changed to girth day and probably will adopt hardcore water pump stretches on girth day due to effect of both expansion and expressive stretching properties


Starting stats
BPEL 6
EG 4.5-4.75

Started Newbie Routine with stretches , girth work only one day Jan 2019

-Workout schedule
Monday on - stretch
Tuesday on - edit 2/18 erect stretch added
Wednesday on - stretch
Thursday on - stretch
Friday off
Saturday on
-edit 2/18 added erect stretch - AM
-edit 2/25 to girth day - PM
Sunday off

***Stretch day

-Warm up
5 min in shower

edit 2/25 swapped bundles after warm up
-Bundled Stretches
5 min

edit 2/25
-hardcore water pump stretches
5 min (penome or cheap pump with bulb)

-Newbie Stretches 25-30 min
Basic Stretching : 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

-30 minutes light stretch using phalloguage extender
Used just to stay extended after workout

-Warm down
5 min


edit to just girth day
***hardcore water pump stretches
***jelq / squeeze or light clamping

-Warm up
5 min in shower

edit 2/25 swapped bundles after warm up
-Bundled Stretches
5 min

edit 2/25
-hardcore water pump stretches
5 min (penome or cheap pump with bulb)

10, 3 sec jelqs then 1, 5 sec squeeze
x 10

or
3 sets of 5-7 min clamp sessions
equal amount of rest in between with helicopter shakes

-Warm down
5 min


***Erect Stretch day

-Warm up
5 min in shower

-Bundled Stretches
5 min

10, 1 min erect stretches , rest 15-30 sec rest
erect stretches performed with ok double
grip at base and behind glans pointed straight up while doing reverse kegel

-Warm down
5 min
 
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Looks excellent! How are you reacting? Are you seeing a difference now that you’re doing Tunica work before your training? Are you noticing larger post measurement gains?
 
Looks excellent! How are you reacting? Are you seeing a difference now that you’re doing Tunica work before your training? Are you noticing larger post measurement gains?
When I did bundles on girth day this last Saturday, I didn’t get as much of a pump as I wanted when trying to jelq or clamp.
Then the hardcore water pump stretches were mentioned, so I did girth day on Sunday instead of taking it off and this made a difference in expansion.
This is why I made a change to my routine and I will be doing hardcore water pump stretches as part of my warm up/ workout.

I have not really been measuring except for just looking at difference before and after.
I feel a better hang on both stretch day and girth day after the workout.
I feel like EQ is affected post workout after adding bundles, but I think because I’m still getting used to this new tunica fatigue.
The stretches feel better though better elongation during the stretch.
Feels as though the tissue is not fighting back, but just giving in to the stretch.

On Tuesday which is erect stretch day and Friday which is day off, EQ is really high.

Come on gains!
 
When I did bundles on girth day this last Saturday, I didn’t get as much of a pump as I wanted when trying to jelq or clamp.
Then the hardcore water pump stretches were mentioned, so I did girth day on Sunday instead of taking it off and this made a difference in expansion.
This is why I made a change to my routine and I will be doing hardcore water pump stretches as part of my warm up/ workout.

I have not really been measuring except for just looking at difference before and after.
I feel a better hang on both stretch day and girth day after the workout.
I feel like EQ is affected post workout after adding bundles, but I think because I’m still getting used to this new tunica fatigue.
The stretches feel better though better elongation during the stretch.
Feels as though the tissue is not fighting back, but just giving in to the stretch.

On Tuesday which is erect stretch day and Friday which is day off, EQ is really high.

Come on gains!

Sounds like you’re a right on course. It does take a while for the Tunica to get used to the new stretching but you’ll get there. I’m glad you’re feeling more malability and elongation in your stretches, this is s very good sign. Gains are coming!
 
2 months in on current routine
Routine updates made in February
Not sure if it’s too early to measure.
I will measure at the end of month 3 to see if there is any growth.
 
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2 months in on current routine
Routine updates made in February
Not sure if it’s too early to measure.
I will measure at the end of month 3 to see if there is any growth.
The rules and measuring tool like this; you measure officially every 90 days every measurement. After your girth work out you should measure loosely to make sure you’re seeing expansion. With length you should measure every 15-30 dats your Bone-pressed flaccid length. Will let you know that your links routine is working. But like I said officially you only want to measure once 90 days. every 90 days
 
The rules and measuring tool like this; you measure officially every 90 days every measurement. After your girth work out you should measure loosely to make sure you’re seeing expansion. With length you should measure every 15-30 dats your Bone-pressed flaccid length. Will let you know that your links routine is working. But like I said officially you only want to measure once 90 days. every 90 days
I was going to measure sooner, but then you can become obsessed with it.
Measuring in the past has been disappointing because I was never consistent with PE.
I would do it for a couple of weeks then not again for a few months etc.
I think this is the first time I have been this consistent and I am working out with a known routine with some tweaks from the brotherhood.
Thank you.
 
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