C&F (Cocky & Funny) is an important part of my game. It displays confidence, wit, and intelligence, traits women like. However there are a lot of mistakes I've made when I thought I was being C&F, and I later realized they were not C&F at all.
I hope to outline the uses and mistakes in here. All examples field-tested or stolen by myself or others, props to DDE and other board members, I can't remember who said what first after all this time.
There's different types of C&F. Remember Family Ties with Alex P. Keaton? Maybe some of you younger kids won't unless you watch reruns. Or else, if you watch The West Wing, look at Josh's character, they're very similar. Or sometimes Sam's character as well. Anyways, Alex Keaton was so in love with himself, it was funny. We would laugh in disgust thinking about how someone could be so vain. But we knew he wasn't, he couldn't be, and that's what made us laugh. That's what I first related to anyways. Examples of this include:
There's the false modesty that isn't so false. I like to sigh or shake my head and try to keep a straight face but with a slight grin while making direct EC with a girl:
Maybe not direct textbook definition, but I'd consider it a part of C&F when you're teasing a girl playfully, as it shows humor as well as confidence in not being afraid of making fun of a girl in a good way to get her emotionally into a conversation instead of standard fluff:
You can use it to send mixed signals:
C&F can also be directed into more sexual talk:
You want emotions. You want her to get animated and laugh. It makes her more comfortable. I've had a few girls blush even. That's okay. You can always tease them about the blushing too.
However, there are a few common mistakes, and I'm guilty of all of them. Learn from them:
1) Firstly, it's C&F for a reason: You need them both together. Being just cocky makes you come across as an arrogant ass. Being funny isn't good enough. I know many funny AFC's who rip on themselves, and yes it is funny, but doesn't impress women. I know this from personal experience. So keep them together.
2) Don't be an asshole. Teasing is about getting her laughing and blushing. You are not trying to put her down or make her feel like shit about herself. Light, playful, funny. Not bashing, ripping, tearing.
Sometimes we get carried away at first by C&F, and sometimes I still do. How I make sure about this is if what I am saying is out of confidence, I am being C&F. If what I am saying is because I am feeling insecure and trying to knock her down so I don't feel as intimidated, then it's being an asshole.
*** This is not to be confused with a neg. However, negs are subtle planned hints that carefully knock a conceited target off her perch, NOT a full-blown punch to the face like getting carried away with C&F is ***
3) Be prepared for cutting remarks. Sometimes something you say just won't work with a chick. The example of teasing a girl about being short, well you may run across a chick who has serious insecurities about her height stemming from a long period of teasing throughout high school blahblahblah. Bottom line, not everything will connect and be money. It's just like an approach, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Also, don't admire your C&F too much. Some chicks are very very witty and will tease you right back. There's no worse feeling than coming up with a great C&F comment and then being left speechless as she pulls up a perfect witty reply. I love these types of conversations, but sometimes I have been caught off-guard by replies and looked dumb. Reminds me of beach volleyball, a teammate who struggled with his serve would always admire his serve when it got over the net, too much admiration that he'd miss when the ball was returned right back at him.
4) Recover from the bad ones gracefully. This often connects with the second mistake. If I make a C&F comment and she doesn't get it, I might act like an asshole in defense. Trying to explain it, while I thought was funny, was actually arrogant. Instead, play with it.
She didn't laugh at that first line of mine but she laughed eventually. The recovery may not be C&F but it wasn't supplicative either. Not like one of my fav pickup lines, "Do you want to fuck or should I apologize now?"
C&F is about confidence. The ratio of C to F doesn't really matter in my book. It could be 90/10 or 10/90, so long as both are there. I found that in life, I would make all these charming, witty remarks that would impress friends. However around women I became passive. All I needed to do was just extend my personality the way I was around friends, co-workers, classmates, to the world of dating.
If you are having trouble with it, think of being this witty, charming, funny person who says brilliant things all day. Now go out and observe life and think about what you would say if you had the balls to say it? Think about these great lines. Now you've got the mind working on how to create C&F.
Then get the balls to do it. Just start saying the first things that come to mind to develop your quick wit. Trial and error, we all have bad ones. But quite often when I started this around women, I would end up hesitating and thinking and then the moment is lost. Even if the line was C&F a few seconds ago, conversation flies by and it won't even make sense later.
Finally, remember, C&F is not being an asshole. C&F is creating attraction and getting her passionate and emotional without trying to hurt her or fuck up her mind.
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Credit: http://www.seductionbb.com
-ItsElectric
I hope to outline the uses and mistakes in here. All examples field-tested or stolen by myself or others, props to DDE and other board members, I can't remember who said what first after all this time.
There's different types of C&F. Remember Family Ties with Alex P. Keaton? Maybe some of you younger kids won't unless you watch reruns. Or else, if you watch The West Wing, look at Josh's character, they're very similar. Or sometimes Sam's character as well. Anyways, Alex Keaton was so in love with himself, it was funny. We would laugh in disgust thinking about how someone could be so vain. But we knew he wasn't, he couldn't be, and that's what made us laugh. That's what I first related to anyways. Examples of this include:
There's the false modesty that isn't so false. I like to sigh or shake my head and try to keep a straight face but with a slight grin while making direct EC with a girl:
Maybe not direct textbook definition, but I'd consider it a part of C&F when you're teasing a girl playfully, as it shows humor as well as confidence in not being afraid of making fun of a girl in a good way to get her emotionally into a conversation instead of standard fluff:
You can use it to send mixed signals:
C&F can also be directed into more sexual talk:
You want emotions. You want her to get animated and laugh. It makes her more comfortable. I've had a few girls blush even. That's okay. You can always tease them about the blushing too.
However, there are a few common mistakes, and I'm guilty of all of them. Learn from them:
1) Firstly, it's C&F for a reason: You need them both together. Being just cocky makes you come across as an arrogant ass. Being funny isn't good enough. I know many funny AFC's who rip on themselves, and yes it is funny, but doesn't impress women. I know this from personal experience. So keep them together.
2) Don't be an asshole. Teasing is about getting her laughing and blushing. You are not trying to put her down or make her feel like shit about herself. Light, playful, funny. Not bashing, ripping, tearing.
Sometimes we get carried away at first by C&F, and sometimes I still do. How I make sure about this is if what I am saying is out of confidence, I am being C&F. If what I am saying is because I am feeling insecure and trying to knock her down so I don't feel as intimidated, then it's being an asshole.
*** This is not to be confused with a neg. However, negs are subtle planned hints that carefully knock a conceited target off her perch, NOT a full-blown punch to the face like getting carried away with C&F is ***
3) Be prepared for cutting remarks. Sometimes something you say just won't work with a chick. The example of teasing a girl about being short, well you may run across a chick who has serious insecurities about her height stemming from a long period of teasing throughout high school blahblahblah. Bottom line, not everything will connect and be money. It's just like an approach, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Also, don't admire your C&F too much. Some chicks are very very witty and will tease you right back. There's no worse feeling than coming up with a great C&F comment and then being left speechless as she pulls up a perfect witty reply. I love these types of conversations, but sometimes I have been caught off-guard by replies and looked dumb. Reminds me of beach volleyball, a teammate who struggled with his serve would always admire his serve when it got over the net, too much admiration that he'd miss when the ball was returned right back at him.
4) Recover from the bad ones gracefully. This often connects with the second mistake. If I make a C&F comment and she doesn't get it, I might act like an asshole in defense. Trying to explain it, while I thought was funny, was actually arrogant. Instead, play with it.
She didn't laugh at that first line of mine but she laughed eventually. The recovery may not be C&F but it wasn't supplicative either. Not like one of my fav pickup lines, "Do you want to fuck or should I apologize now?"
C&F is about confidence. The ratio of C to F doesn't really matter in my book. It could be 90/10 or 10/90, so long as both are there. I found that in life, I would make all these charming, witty remarks that would impress friends. However around women I became passive. All I needed to do was just extend my personality the way I was around friends, co-workers, classmates, to the world of dating.
If you are having trouble with it, think of being this witty, charming, funny person who says brilliant things all day. Now go out and observe life and think about what you would say if you had the balls to say it? Think about these great lines. Now you've got the mind working on how to create C&F.
Then get the balls to do it. Just start saying the first things that come to mind to develop your quick wit. Trial and error, we all have bad ones. But quite often when I started this around women, I would end up hesitating and thinking and then the moment is lost. Even if the line was C&F a few seconds ago, conversation flies by and it won't even make sense later.
Finally, remember, C&F is not being an asshole. C&F is creating attraction and getting her passionate and emotional without trying to hurt her or fuck up her mind.
_________________________
Credit: http://www.seductionbb.com
-ItsElectric
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