Are there any serious pumpers here? I haven't been seeing much talk about it on the board. If there are, have you been following any of DLD's routines from the pay portion of this site and included pumping along with it? If you have, how have you done this and do you think it has helped you to speed gains? I, myself am at a crossroads and thinking about quitting pumping and only following DLD's routines. Am I wasting my time or should I continue to pump? Also, if there is an abundant number of pumpers here it would be nice to see a pumper's forum, don't you think?
Are there any pumpers here? Don't see too many pumping threads.
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I got a pump, only used it twice. I don't know how to incorporate it with DLDs routines, so I haven't been using it too much. However, I did notice that my gains all occured on the week that I did use the pump. It has been about 2 weeks or so since I used it, and I have not lost the gains, but have not increased, either. I hope someone has an idea how to constructively use pumps along with DLDs routines.
I work with two men that pump in addition to their [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] workout with very good success. As a matter of fact one who uses Pumping to suppliment his manual routine has made very incredible girth gains. I think it is fine and can only benefit you.
b1nzen48,
Many people pump for 5-10 min, then do manual girth work for 5-10 min, then pump for 5-10 min, then more girth work, ect...
The idea is to get your dick REALLY engorged in the pump and then squeeze, jelq, ect... to move the blood around in your dick and stress the erectile tissue more than you could from just manual Penis Enlargement alone. Just don't get too crazy with the pressure, keep it kinda low. I also like to wrap a towel soaked in hot water around my pump. This will definately make the pumping more effective.
Many people pump for 5-10 min, then do manual girth work for 5-10 min, then pump for 5-10 min, then more girth work, ect...
The idea is to get your dick REALLY engorged in the pump and then squeeze, jelq, ect... to move the blood around in your dick and stress the erectile tissue more than you could from just manual Penis Enlargement alone. Just don't get too crazy with the pressure, keep it kinda low. I also like to wrap a towel soaked in hot water around my pump. This will definately make the pumping more effective.
Thankyou for the replies Gandolph and DLD. That is some really useful input that I and others, I am sure, can use. I really hope this thread gets more guys talking and inquiring about pumping. Also, if anyone reading this thread is interested in trying to pump, but you're not ready to dump $100 + dollars into a system, post back in this thread or PM me. I can tell you how to put a good pump together for around $30.00... That's right, only about $30.00. Mine works great, I have been using it pretty much everyday since I put it together last December. This way you can try pumping and see if its for you, if it isn't you won't have wasted a small fortune on a pump and cylinder.
From what I've read on the subject (as I have no personal experience myself) there are a couple of different methods for pumping. One uses a wide tube that allows the member to expand in girth as its pumped, the other incorporates a longer tube thats closer to your existing girth size to promote length gains. So the most important factor (assuming your purchasing a pump and not building your own which requires other considerations) seems to be the size and/or length of the tube which would depend on whether your going for length or girth.
Now my question is, how do you go about choosing the proper pump and tubes?
Now my question is, how do you go about choosing the proper pump and tubes?
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stillwantmore
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The most active pumping based forum I'm aware of is at :http://www.newart.com
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stillwantmore
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Watch the type of comments you make, and who you make them to buddy. 
It's not a "gay adult entertainment site". You obviously didnt look around much, theres a link at the top to the pumping forums.
It's not a "gay adult entertainment site". You obviously didnt look around much, theres a link at the top to the pumping forums.
sufring said:
Here's how i incorporated pumping into DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words]:
First 2 weeks:
Mon-Fri
Morning: DLD Newbie stretching
Evening: Pump for 10 minutes @ 5-6hg, 300 jelqs, Pump for 10 minutes @ 6-7hg
Sat-Sun
Morning: DLD Newbie stretching
Evening: 300 jelqs
Weeks 3 and on:
Mon-Fri
Morning: DLD Newbie stretching, 300 jelqs
Evening: Pump for 15 minutes @ 5-6hg, 300 jelqs, Pump for 15 minutes @ 6-7hg
Sat-Sun
Morning: DLD Newbie stretching
Evening: 300 jelqs
I'm like you and got great girth gains with this. I gained about a half inch girth in the month or so that i did this routine. I haven't been pumping in a while, but will start again when i start workning on girth again.
REDZULU2003
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jason1, I think you have your wires crossed
I also get a pump page come-up.
Infact heres a quote from the first page.
I also get a pump page come-up.
Infact heres a quote from the first page.
I am a big fan of pumping. I've noticed BIG gains in girth and rather quickly. I do about 10 minutes of wet jelqs then I pump for about 20 minutes, then I put a constrictor ring on to keep the pump and do about 8 Supra slammers. This is all I do for girth right now and Ive gained about .5 inch in about 2-3weeks.
Jakb
Jakb
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Jason1 said:
What, you call some one a "sick bastard" after not thoroughly exploring a site, or not giving the benefit of the doubt to the idea that maybe, just maybe the link I posted is not where you ended up somehow, nd then you expect me not to take it the wrong way? :s
Keep the negative gay comments to yourself as well. We're all men here, and we all have different sexual tastes. I'm straight myself, and do not support the "gay lifestyle", heck I dont even agree with it, but I am a moderator on a forum that supports Penis EnlargementNIS ENLARGEMENT. That means all of the men who are members here, regardless of their sexual orientation, are to made to feel welcome here. Negative or derrogitory comments toward a certain type of lifestyle will not be tolerated. It cannot be tolerated if this forum is expected to remain a healthy, active forum where EVERYONE feels welcome. You do not have to agree with the content on another site, or someone else's comments, but hold your tongue next time you feel like making similar remarks. Not just you, that goes for everyone.
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maybe your computer took you straight to the aptly named "gay sex swap" banner at the bottom of the pumping page...
Thats one helluva pump that site is brandishing.....Makes what NASA has to offer look like a rubber band and a penny....
Thats one helluva pump that site is brandishing.....Makes what NASA has to offer look like a rubber band and a penny....
yea, it's deceiving at the bottom of the page...if u click "next" or any of the "galleries" it takes u to a gay site...so in an effort to a get a glimpse of exta-large, pumped-up penises it seems jason1 was taken to a gay site...to quote Spock, "it is logical"
and about the gay thing, most guys would never know i'm gay. I don't pretend to be straight, it's just that i'm a man through and through and i happen to like guys. Have never needed to go anywhere "gay" to hook up with a guy. You don't see it because it's nobody else's business. Not lurking in the shadows, it's just that i'm a total stud and only look for the same. So if you worry about being hit on by "hidden" gay people like myself, DON'T...you probably aren't in our scopes. That being said, you should know that you were on a site looking at and talking about BIG Penis EnlargementNISES...
and about the gay thing, most guys would never know i'm gay. I don't pretend to be straight, it's just that i'm a man through and through and i happen to like guys. Have never needed to go anywhere "gay" to hook up with a guy. You don't see it because it's nobody else's business. Not lurking in the shadows, it's just that i'm a total stud and only look for the same. So if you worry about being hit on by "hidden" gay people like myself, DON'T...you probably aren't in our scopes. That being said, you should know that you were on a site looking at and talking about BIG Penis EnlargementNISES...
Dashdeming
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stillwantmore said:
As another MOD here, I fully agree with your words Still and back you 100%.
so amped up about replying to that note, forgot to post what i originally wanted to say...
pump on rare occasion - used to do it pretty often, but jelqing and stretching produce much better results so i stopped...might start adding it in as part of my routine once or twice a week, but your dick needs a lot more "down time" from pumping than it does from other Penis Enlargement methods. Although, never saw gr8 permanent results from pumping, it's really trippy watching your dick get MASSIVE even if it is only temporary - best part is how heavy it feels, and not being able to get your hand around it
pump on rare occasion - used to do it pretty often, but jelqing and stretching produce much better results so i stopped...might start adding it in as part of my routine once or twice a week, but your dick needs a lot more "down time" from pumping than it does from other Penis Enlargement methods. Although, never saw gr8 permanent results from pumping, it's really trippy watching your dick get MASSIVE even if it is only temporary - best part is how heavy it feels, and not being able to get your hand around it
I'm a pumper
slimhung said:
Seriously dude, I have never pumped before and I was as giddy as a school girl when I read that......If that is so, then pumping and jelqing should go hand in hand.....If your girth can temporarily skyrocket, then there is no reason why you cant cement those gains right???
How much on average would you gain in girth in a pumping session???
Can you gain any temporary length also??
-Vlad
i'd also like to incorporate pumping back into my Penis Enlargement routine. alone i think pumping is quite worthless, but when incorporated with jelqing and other girth exercises i think it can be very very beneficial
Here's the best pump that i've used so far...
https://www.lapdist.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=all
I had one of those plastic Dr. Kaplan pumps and the handle broke after a few months of use. I would recommend that if you plan on pumping for any length of time that you get one with metal handles.
https://www.lapdist.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=all
I had one of those plastic Dr. Kaplan pumps and the handle broke after a few months of use. I would recommend that if you plan on pumping for any length of time that you get one with metal handles.
I've been pumping irregularly for about the past 8 years. I think pumping is very good for doing two things: stretching/enlarging the tunica and building a bigger/better circulatory system down there. I don't think it's good for much else, however. As an illustration, I gained perhaps 0.25" in permanent girth (5.3"->5.5ish) with all the pumping that I've done. Length gains were not much better.
So then why do it? I'll tell ya why: preparation for your larger, Penis Enlargement-enhanced cock. Back when I started pumping, there was no Penis Enlargement. The very first time I heard of jelqing was in 1998. Pumping, despite its apparent inability to build a bigger dick, stretched my tunica like you wouldn't believe. This was especially noticeable when I was flaccid. Not a bigger hang or anything, but a great deal more skin was there, sorta like a bigger balloon. Also, from the very first day that I ever tried pumping, I saw veins pop up that I had never seen before. More and more pumping brought up more veins and expanded the existing ones. Still, I was not getting any/much bigger.
You know what happened next? I never really got into jelqing, but eventually discovered squeezes/compression. Girth gains have come fairly easily since then, I'd say. Up until I joined this board a little over a month ago, I was terribly inconsistent with my routine. Still, I managed to gain about 0.5" in girth without doing a whole lot. I really attribute the ease in girth gains to my initial pumping effort.
These days I don't pump very much at all, but on occasion I still do it. I really recommend it to everyone out there who wants to gain girth. I don't see how it can do much for length, since it doesn't stretch your ligaments at all. Case in point: length gains have always been difficult for me. I started at 5 7/8" and I'm at just under 7" these days. Girth has always been much, much easier for me.
So then why do it? I'll tell ya why: preparation for your larger, Penis Enlargement-enhanced cock. Back when I started pumping, there was no Penis Enlargement. The very first time I heard of jelqing was in 1998. Pumping, despite its apparent inability to build a bigger dick, stretched my tunica like you wouldn't believe. This was especially noticeable when I was flaccid. Not a bigger hang or anything, but a great deal more skin was there, sorta like a bigger balloon. Also, from the very first day that I ever tried pumping, I saw veins pop up that I had never seen before. More and more pumping brought up more veins and expanded the existing ones. Still, I was not getting any/much bigger.
You know what happened next? I never really got into jelqing, but eventually discovered squeezes/compression. Girth gains have come fairly easily since then, I'd say. Up until I joined this board a little over a month ago, I was terribly inconsistent with my routine. Still, I managed to gain about 0.5" in girth without doing a whole lot. I really attribute the ease in girth gains to my initial pumping effort.
These days I don't pump very much at all, but on occasion I still do it. I really recommend it to everyone out there who wants to gain girth. I don't see how it can do much for length, since it doesn't stretch your ligaments at all. Case in point: length gains have always been difficult for me. I started at 5 7/8" and I'm at just under 7" these days. Girth has always been much, much easier for me.
Baraka said:
In what time frame Baraka???
Im so pissed now....Seeing my posts from back in July, right excited about buying a pump....now december, and I am just now getting around to getting one......story of my life :blush:
I started squeezes/compression in February 2002, which I think were most responsible for the gains. So, I've gained that half inch since then (from about 5.5" to 6" EG). That's a period of 2 years, 9 months. It may not sound like much, but consider that my routine couldn't be more inconsistent. I'd skip a week here and another week there. I'd rarely do it on consecutive days. I think the most I ever did it in a week was maybe 4 or 5 days out of the possible 7. Most of the time I'd be only 2 or 3 for 7. Still, I gained.
To put it all together: I gained nearly 0.25" pumping and another 0.5" with squeezes/compression. I've been pumping irregularly for about the past 8 years. I've been doing the squeezing since February 2002. It's my belief that the initial pumping effort helped with my girth gains. I think I've gained even more since starting my advanced regime and joining this board during the first week of November. I'm paranoid about measuring this soon after being on the new program, though. Maybe when the New Year hits I'll measure...
To put it all together: I gained nearly 0.25" pumping and another 0.5" with squeezes/compression. I've been pumping irregularly for about the past 8 years. I've been doing the squeezing since February 2002. It's my belief that the initial pumping effort helped with my girth gains. I think I've gained even more since starting my advanced regime and joining this board during the first week of November. I'm paranoid about measuring this soon after being on the new program, though. Maybe when the New Year hits I'll measure...
VladtheImpaler said:
I've been doing Kegels while pumping. I don't have the CTC style pump so sometimes I'll pull the tube (like your jerking it) and that fluctuates the psi too but probably not nearly as nice as a CTC pump. It's too early to tell for gains but I'll post it. For the kegels, I'll use the weight of the cylinder for resistance and it seems like a pretty good work out so far.
Baraka,....I found your posts interesting, and what you say about your early pumping work helping your curent gains seems to make some sense.
I know that some people say that we shouldn't compare Penis Enlargement with anything to do with building normal muscle with weights,...but I disagree.
I believe that while there are differences, there are also a lot that similiarites too, which organs such as a penis share with skeletal muscle.
We know that both a penis and a skeletal muscle are stressed when a stimulus forces blood into it.
I have read several sources that claim that when the fascia which surrounds a skeletal muscle is stretched and weakened, it eventually becomes bigger, allowing a larger capacity for the muscle to grow in. There is less resistance for the muscle to push against, so growth is much easier and isn't hindered by the tightness of the fascia.
The fascia and the tunica are very similiar in material. They are tough, and slightly stretchy.
Think of a raw chicken leg. When you pull the skin off, there is a tough, gristly, reasonably stretchy lining underneath, that is quite hard to pull off. You know the bit I am talking about?
I believe that is the fascia.
Nobody really talks about the similarity on Penis Enlargement forums between the role of the fascia and the tunica. And I believe that this is due to a very common resistance to the idea that muscle building and Penis Enlargement may have some elements in common with each other. As soon as someone suggests that the penis may have something in common with normal muscle building, often that person's ideas are instantly shot down in flames and dismissed immediately.
The muscle needs a fascia so that the muscle has a container to keep it in shape and hold it there, and to prevent muscles growing too large. The body is designed to be efficient and will try to stop unecessary biological processes.
If muscles just kept on growing with nothing to stop them, we would not be able to sustain them with energy and fuel, and probably starve to death in a period where food isn't as readily available.
The fascia appears to be very similiar to the tunica in it's main role. It needs to hold the penis tissues in shape, and to stop it growing too much so it's own weight doesn't stretch it down to the floor.
So it makes some sort of sense to me that your early time using a pump, when you originally stretched your tunica, gave it more capacity to hold more volume, so penis growth appears much easier than it might have been.
I'm no expert, and a lot of this is based on my limited knowledge and speculation,...but it appears to me that there is some sense to this.
I know that some people say that we shouldn't compare Penis Enlargement with anything to do with building normal muscle with weights,...but I disagree.
I believe that while there are differences, there are also a lot that similiarites too, which organs such as a penis share with skeletal muscle.
We know that both a penis and a skeletal muscle are stressed when a stimulus forces blood into it.
I have read several sources that claim that when the fascia which surrounds a skeletal muscle is stretched and weakened, it eventually becomes bigger, allowing a larger capacity for the muscle to grow in. There is less resistance for the muscle to push against, so growth is much easier and isn't hindered by the tightness of the fascia.
The fascia and the tunica are very similiar in material. They are tough, and slightly stretchy.
Think of a raw chicken leg. When you pull the skin off, there is a tough, gristly, reasonably stretchy lining underneath, that is quite hard to pull off. You know the bit I am talking about?
I believe that is the fascia.
Nobody really talks about the similarity on Penis Enlargement forums between the role of the fascia and the tunica. And I believe that this is due to a very common resistance to the idea that muscle building and Penis Enlargement may have some elements in common with each other. As soon as someone suggests that the penis may have something in common with normal muscle building, often that person's ideas are instantly shot down in flames and dismissed immediately.
The muscle needs a fascia so that the muscle has a container to keep it in shape and hold it there, and to prevent muscles growing too large. The body is designed to be efficient and will try to stop unecessary biological processes.
If muscles just kept on growing with nothing to stop them, we would not be able to sustain them with energy and fuel, and probably starve to death in a period where food isn't as readily available.
The fascia appears to be very similiar to the tunica in it's main role. It needs to hold the penis tissues in shape, and to stop it growing too much so it's own weight doesn't stretch it down to the floor.
So it makes some sort of sense to me that your early time using a pump, when you originally stretched your tunica, gave it more capacity to hold more volume, so penis growth appears much easier than it might have been.
I'm no expert, and a lot of this is based on my limited knowledge and speculation,...but it appears to me that there is some sense to this.
Here is h0w I get a temporary 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch in a night. First of all pump up to about 8 hg and wrap the tube in a heat pad or some sort. Make sure you are warmed up before hand and continue pumping for 10 minutes. To 50 jelqs then one supra slammer. then keep the pressure at 3-4 hg and just sit there, and entertain yourself for a while. I have gotten very permanent results both flacid and girth wise. I never gained girth until pumpin and now it's enormous compared to it's former self. Continue until satisfied and finish off with an ADC clamp session for a few hours or until you get laid. Caution:
May cause massive donuts.
May cause massive donuts.
Mercury said:
Just curious, but why is it that a pump can supposedly stretch your tunica allowing easier gains from other exercises, but pumping won't produce many gains by itself?
If it expands the penile tissues and tunica, shouldn't that be the same as doing jelqs or constricting??
thanks
endokrin said:
I don't know. It's a question that I hope someone who has more knowledge than me can find out sometime.
I've been intending to start a thread to ask about the difference between why hand exercises appear to stimulate growth more than pumping alone.
I've read bodybuilding articles that say that stretching the fascia increases the capacity of the muscle to grow more.
I suppose a basic description would be to compare it with a brand new balloon.
At first, it's tough, and hard to stretch,...but once you stretch it a bit, and blow it up, it becomes much easier to blow the balloon up. You don't need as much internal pressure for the balloon to fill with air.
I have personally found out that since I've been pretty big before (muscle wise),..then when I've been lazy and haven't touched the weights for a few months, it doesn't take as much time to get back to that original big size. It's quicker than when I first started training to get to the same size.
The tunica is similar in many ways to the penis as to what the fasicai is to skeletal muscle.
So why doesn't the pump in itself make the penis grow more than hand manual exercises?
I don't know, but maybe different pressures are at work, that stress the penis differently.
Maybe you get more pressure on internal tissues when the pressure is being pushed into the penis internally. Maybe you get microtrauma on the tissues.
And Maybe when blood is being drawn into the penis by a vacuum, it isn't being as direct on the internal tissues and generating as much pressure on them and breaking them down as much.
Maybe the pump can really stretch the tunica and enable the penis to have more potential in it's capacity to grow, but it's effects on the inner penis are minimal. So you have bag that is less tough to stretch, but needs the stimulus of manual exercises to also put pressure on the internal tissues so when the penis grows it is better able to grow to the larger capacity of the bag that the pump helped create.
I don't know, I hope somebody is able to look into this somehow. Maybe a lot of that has no basis whatsoever, but maybe there is some truth there as well.
I'm thinking that deconditioning the penis for a week every two months may be beneficial too, so that if the penis becomes tough as leather from training every day, and is too stubborn to grow, the deconditioning may make the penis supple again and make the penis more responsive to growth again.
I'm not saying that any of this is correct, but I'd like to know what other people think about anything I say.
Pumping works the penis differently than most manual exercizes. Very much like how electro-stimulation works muscles differently than traditional exercizes. Electro-stimulation is said to be helpful with building muscle when used in conjunction to an exercize program but not very effective by itself.
I think that pumping doesn't stretch the penile tissues as much as manual exercizes do. When you uli or clamp, you are using hydraulic forces to expand the tissues from the inside out. This is important as these forces are directed specifically at the tissues that you are trying to deform and expand. Pumping on the other hand uses negative forces from the outside in. These forces "suck" blood and other fluids to the penis. Because the "sucking" force is applied to the penile tissues from the outside in, alot of the force is applied to the skin first before the inner tissues. This is why you are more prone to bloating with pumping versus clamping and other manual exercizes.
I think that when done long enough, and properly that pumping can be every bit as effective if not more so than manual exercises. I have pumped for 2-3 hour sessions and gained what seemed to be alot of LENGTH! yes, seems my ligs would loosesn up after an hour and a half or so, learned that at tiger pump. It is a gay site, but has a welath of knowledge. This tiger dude can pump from 5.5 to 7+ that is pretty damn cool man.
I think that the pull you get from pumping can stretch the ligs enough over time to make gains. This is how the Vimax and other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work. The only difference with pumping is that if you pump for hours at a time, you are also drawing up alot of lymphatic fluids into your penis. This causes bloating which can also add some temporary size. My opinion is that the look you get from pumping for hours (like those guys at Tiger) are disgusting looking and isn't the what most guys that Penis Enlargement are looking for. Personally, i'm looking to grow a long, thick, and dense dick... not a long, bloated, and soft dick.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
yeah, I used to call pumping back at Pridepenis years ago but that was the UNKNOWN...I didnt understand it and heard all the bullshit before the good feedback. I now have a pump and use it with my constriction methods.....I have noticed even with inconsistant use that my girth has gotten thicker, and that like with 5 days break after the pump. Its like a .15' gain in girth. Temp it is, but if I keep at it this will become some solid shit. Pumping has potential, I know that now. Its good stuff and I still wonna learn more.
Here's a pretty interesting pumpsite I found about a year back. Worth a look, as well some of their silicone rings look effective in their design. Cheers. https://www.pumptoys.com/menu.htm
I have pumped for over a year, threw my tube away, just created lymph fluid to quickly to get internal pressure up enough to enlarge internally. What I have found though is clamping and doing bends, uli's for about 45 minutes, then pumping in a cock and ball cylinder creates great gains. The oversize tube allows the chambers to be swollen internally and does not cause lymph fluid to be pulled into the skin... I have grown in girth almost a full inch since starting the combination I also wet jelq and wet uli. I pe everyday and take the weekends off. I found pure pumping hurts erection and causes spongey penis, the combination I have found works better than any I have found, also rest is a must, the first day of rest your penis looks like it has shrunk, it is healing... like lifting weights growth occurs with rest.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
pumpedup said:
Superb shit, so pumping and constriction combined works really well.
I always thought it would, now the feedback....good.
Allright, getting great results from the following.... L-arginine 4000mg per day, spaced evenly, adrogel every other day applied to penis, Penis Enlargement, and Pumping, I have gained .5 inch in length in 5 weeks. .5 in. in girth....no doubt the l-arginine and andro are the catalyst but the damage and rebuild of the cells is greatly enhancing....will let you know when it reaches terminal length and girth.
Awesome information pumped up.
I look forward to getting a pump for my workouts in a couple of months.
I look forward to getting a pump for my workouts in a couple of months.
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